2021 Morgan Silver Dollars with CC and O Privy Marks Launch

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Two different products celebrating a coin last issued a century ago are available for pre-ordering today from the United States Mint. Beginning at Noon (EDT), consumers may pre-order the 2021 Morgan Silver Dollar with a CC (Carson City) Privy Mark and the 2021 Morgan Silver Dollar with an O (New Orleans) Privy Mark. Both honor the last issuance of the Morgan dollar in 1921.

2021 Morgan Silver Dollar with CC Privy Mark
2021 Morgan Silver Dollar with CC Privy Mark

Designs for the new coins were regenerated using multiple historical U.S. Mint assets to include original plasters, galvanos and actual tooling. Each, which features an uncirculated finish, is priced at $85 and limited to sales of 175,000. Buyers can only order 10 per. Another note of interest, 10% are already reserved for participants of the Mint’s Authorized Bulk Purchase Program (ABPP) who will pay a premium of 5% for each coin, plus shipping.

Given the above factors coupled with pent-up demand, the pair of coins will sell out exceedingly quick with many collectors experiencing extreme frustration with the inability to buy even one.

These dollars are authorized under Public Law 116-286, the 1921 Silver Dollar Coin Anniversary Act. As part of that Act to commemorate the 100th anniversary switchover from Morgan to Peace dollars, these two along with another three 2021 Morgan dollars will be issued this year. There is also a 2021 Peace dollar on the horizon. (Learn more about the six 2021 silver dollars.)

2021 Morgan Dollar Designs and Specifications

Congress mandated that the designs of the 2021 dollars be renditions of their historical counterparts. The original issues were produced from 1878 to 1904, and then again in 1921. Designs for the coin were completed by U.S. Mint Chief Engraver George T. Morgan, from which they take their nickname. They are said to express the country’s westward expansion and industrial development in the late 19th century.

Appearing on the obverse (heads side) of each is a profile portrait of Lady Liberty. A cap, flora, and a crown incused with the word "LIBERTY" adorn her head. Thirteen stars, "E PLURIBUS UNUM," and the date of issuance encircle her.

2021 Morgan Silver Dollar - Obverse
2021 Morgan Silver Dollar – Obverse

The reverse depicts a heraldic eagle with outstretched wings clasping arrows and an olive branch, accompanied by a wreath. Reverse inscriptions include "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA," "IN GOD WE TRUST," and "ONE DOLLAR."

2021 Morgan Silver Dollar with CC Privy Mark - Reverse
2021 Morgan Silver Dollar (with CC Privy Mark) – Reverse

Privy marks of "CC" for Carson City or "O" for New Orleans are also present on the reverse.

Mint Close Up of CC and O Privy Marks
U.S. Mint images showing close ups of the CC and O privy marks. The privy mark is found on the reverse side of each silver dollar.

Specifications for the coin are as follows:

2021 Morgan Silver Dollar Specifications

Denomination: $1
Finish: Uncirculated
Composition: 99.9% Silver
Silver Weight: 0.858 troy oz.
Diameter: 1.500 inches (38.10 mm)
Edge: Reeded
Privy Mark: CC for Carson City
O for New Orleans
Mint and Mint Mark: Philadelphia – none

 

Pre-ordering and Shipping

Beginning at noon, the dollars may be pre-ordered directly from the U.S. Mint at 2021 ‘CC Morgan Silver Dollar and 2021’O’ Morgan Silver Dollar. The dollars will not ship until October.

Each arrives within a United States Mint black box, with an outer sleeve adorned with an image of the coin obverse and accompanied by a Certificate of Authenticity.

Of note, the U.S. Mint will verify credit card information when pre-ordering products but cards will not be charged until products ship. To prevent order cancellations for later shipping products, always keep credit card information on account with the Mint current.

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Brian W

As with every other coin release this was no different. Website crashes and a lot of disappointed collectors. I managed to get one of each, although I’ve not received an email confirmation. I do show under my order history once I was able to access it that the order shows as processing. Like others I think the US mint should limit sales to one per customer on the first day. After that open it up to whatever number they deem appropriate. They certainly know this type of thing is bound to happen because of the high demand. Of course I… Read more »

RAV

I had to place two separate orders for one of each coin to go through. I got a received order email on both, and then a confirmation email within an hour. Hopefully those that ordered only one of each will be processed more quickly than orders of ten. Good luck everyone.

Mark

They are not answering tele

Kaiser Wilhelm

They haven’t anymore for orders since the pandemic started.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Not even Geraldine is picking up these days.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Although according to what I’ve gathered from some of the comments of late the Mint’s phone order service may be back in business after all.

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Michael Weil

Amen to that, brother. A wise and thorough analysis indeed!

Mark D.

Give Kaiser his pickelhaube back! Unless…

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mein Gott, Mark; jemand hat heute meine geheimnise Identitaet gestohlen!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Needless to say, I am now entirely compromised. I’ll likely find myself stripped of rank and be sent back to Hinternarschhausen.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

No more of that cushy job and all those perks at Berlin Station for me. In fact, did someone mention moi in reference to a pickle of some kind?

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Daniel
Kaiser Wilhelm

Looks absolutely delicious!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

I neglected to mention, Daniel, that I thought it was indeed quite clever for the Australian Mint to create that privy mark. It’s always a pleasure to see esoteric oddities like that; truly warms the cockles of my old armchair adventurer’s heart.

Kaiser Wilhelm

The German State Mints should produce Euros with Australian-themed privy marks, such as Tasmanian Devils, wallabies, shrimp on the barbie, the Sydney Opera House, and road trains across the Outback.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

The mystery persists as to whether I was referencing the familiar flavor of the Bratwurst or the lesser known one of the kangeroo on the barbie.

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Mark D.

Interested in a 1914-A German States, Prussia, silver 3 Marks KM.538, VF, for $25?

Mark D.

Also know where there’s an 1861-B Austrian Franz Joseph I silver thaler, KM. 2244, fine+, at $35.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Wouldn’t mind uniting the minor provinces of Preussen und Oesterreich into ein Zweites Allgemeines Grosses Berliner und Wiener Herzogtum. As to the other, danke, nein.

Mark D.

Not sure what any of that means, but I’m frightened… Check “Yesterday’s Change,” site’s front page… Gulp.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Not to worry about the Germanic interludes; they’re just brief “linguistic holiday” excursions back to the Old Country. By the way, I see one of the coins on that shop’s website has my likeness on it. Extremely cool.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Footnote regarding an issue I clearly neglected to address before: Those who are unfamiliar with the sound of German words typically react to virtually anything said in that language as if it means “You will be taken out back and shot!” I mean, just because it does…

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Mark D.

Even before I saw the adorable Mr. Banner, my response was to be thus:

Apologies Comrade, I learned my prejudice from Klink’s reaction to, “Gennn-errr-all Bull-carrr-terrr!” (Klemperer Jr. had the elongated sing-song stacatto thing perfected, much to the chagrin of Sr.).

Kaiser Wilhelm

Der Kamerad Kaiser doesn’t require apologies. However, willing offerings of first-borns, virgins and gold happily accepted.

Mark D.

Are you familiar with the, “garlic and onions,” fable?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Only in regard to how I can count on my wife doing her very best to avoid me whenever I’ve overindulged in said gustatory delights.

Chas. Barber

You will be SHOT AND sent to the Russian front…..

Kaiser Wilhelm

Wow, that’s amazing! It usually happens the other way around!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Nothing to be all that concerned about. You’ve been sent to the Eastern Front to personally operate the KW1 Twinkie Rakete . Enjoy Siberia!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Ach, the daydreams a deposed Emperor is given to; how silly of me!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

“Second General Greater Berlin and Viennese Dukedom.” A typical pseudo-historical fabrication of the not all that surprisingly far too maniacally esoteric and/or exotic later-post-Germanic imagination.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

I checked out both of the above coins on that store’s website, Mark. I especially enjoy perusing the varieties of coinage from the glory days of those fabled but now long-dismantled empires!

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Mark D.

Did you acquire them Comrade? Someone did.

Kaiser Wilhelm

9, I did not, Tovarisch Markovitch.

Mark D.

Probably was that “Michael” poser.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I have the Imperial Right Guard sniffing out his scent as we speak.

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Mark D.

Beware Comrade your highness, I suspect he may be the type to wear Hai Karate.

Mark D.

Waitaminute… Are you just trying to lengthen this thread to 400?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Let’s ask Mark to ask Mark to ask Mark.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

It is a real temptation…

Mark D.

Maybe 399…

Kaiser Wilhelm

In the glory days Cousin Nicki was at odds with his Rising Sun abutters, so it’s possible they’re still owning a yen for olfactory mischief.

Mark D.

9 sprekin Doitch.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Doitch sprekin issed sayer schwaer.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Phonetic rendition of “It is difficult to speak the German language”, especially if one doesn’t learn it from childhood.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Love the “9”.

Big T

The funniest thing is to google the youtube video of how to say ‘butterfly’ in seven languages…. it is HILLARIOUS. It’s a beautiful word in nearly all languages, except one… guess which one?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Well, it certainly can’t be German; after all, Schmetterling is a lovely word that rolls right off the tongue, and melodically so at that!

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Big T

then you haven’t seen the video – google it!
I lived in DE (not Delaware, Germany) for many years but found it hard to use my high school Spanish in any meaningful way, and German… words are too long and not enough well-placed vowels…

Kaiser Wilhelm

I was being slightly sarcastic because (a) I knew exactly where this was going and (b) German is my native language.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Big T, where and when were you in Germany? I was in Vienna (Austria) 1947-55, Stuttgart 1955-60, Heidelberg 1960-65. Amazing times.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

You’re right about those very elongated German words, Big T; at times it seems they could go on forever, like pi 3.14 etc. into infinity.
As to the vowels, unlike in English every vowel is individually pronounced; there’s simply no skipping over any of them.
Below is an illustration of another reason German is so difficult. Consider all the German variations of the simple English term “you”.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Sorry about that slip into the ye olde Teutonic. In “American” what I said was “My God, Mark; someone stole my secret identity today.” Amazing how much less space the same sentence takes up in English!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Who’s this character horning in on my Kaiser helmet trademark? (Helmut?)

Kaiser Wilhelm

You got it, Brian. They wanted this to happen because it’s a lot less work for them.

Aplu

Let me add my two cents, for what it is (now) worth: What a Mint Farce yesterday (sounds like an exotic drink they specialize in serving up) especially after they mailed and emailed so much hype/propaganda to me. If I really want these coins I should probably just consider ebay, and pay the upcharge of 200-300%. I was booted in the middle of my order, then couldn’t get through, and finally received the pleasant message that they were no longer available. I agree that for the first 24 hours the Mint should allow one coin purchase only per person. It’s… Read more »

Big T

It could have been a one coin limit and they still would have sold out within 30 min and you would have had the same issues. How do I know? Because this happened for the 2021W ASE and several 2020 coins with one coin limit. I was happy they reduced it from 25 but frankly it wouldn’t have helped much more to go to one coin – although I do agree with you. Some folks like to get a few for their grandkids or whatever, but 3 or 5 should have been the limit, if not one. Again, would not… Read more »

Chas. Barber

WRONG grasshopper there were ZERO LIMITS on the 2021 ASE Proofs, ZERO…..2020 what the V75’s with tiny mintages. Pure logic says HH limit of 1 = greater distribution of hte coins & longer time to SELL OUT, without ocnsidering megabots & Ryder’s base having an inside position…..BTW I”ve been doing this for decades, the Mint is so F’d up on this it’s a joke, it is INSANITY over & over & to expect a different result, I got he Pd 2017, I got the 2011 ASE sets, I got Botanical Garden sets, I got he JFK/RFK sets, the past to… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

As I pointed out to Aplu (and everyone else by obvious extension) we owe the existence of this current DOtM to the former national pinhead, he of Make America White Again fame, who made an across the board practice of appointing like-minded morons to far too many significant positions throughout the government. It will clearly take a while for all this serious damage to be undone, but let’s keep our fingers crossed.

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Mark D.

Et tu, Kaiser? Caligula will primary you now! Incidentally, are you related to Kay Kyser of Kollege of Musical Knowledge fame? Ish Kabibble?

Clockwork Squirrel

The ol’ Perfesser of Swing!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Could be. Kay Kyser on my father’s side, Keyser Sose on my mother’s. Ish Kabibble und Willi Forst. Gefilte Fish und Ungarisches Goulash.

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Mark D.

I swam and I swim right over the…, dam it, I forget the rest. Where’s Spike Jones with his hilarious (and distracting) musical sound effects when one needs them?

Kaiser Wilhelm

I know, eh? Had to look him up right away; he’s been among the dearly departed since 1965. All quiet on that front now. Sigh.

Mark D.

400, I do believe.

Big T

You are right, but there was a limit on some S mints and also the V75 had a limit of one (and sold out in minutes). So, from that I stick by my point it wouldn’t have mattered…. Rarely limits on W mints but also ‘usually’ not low mintage either. I recall when the S proofs were more limited than the W proofs but this is no longer a true correlation since W started making some of the limited release eagles. But you are correct about the 2021 W – which sold out very quickly. I still don’t think it… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

I understand, Big T, the concept of some people occasionally wishing to get more than one of certain coins. Unfortunately, to accomplish that the Household Order Limit for the first 24 hours has to be set higher than 1, and from a lot of experience in this regard I know full well that this is a recipe for disaster. Once the HHOL breaches the single coin setting, all hades tends to break loose on Release Days thanks to the unwelcome participation of the thousands of designated buyers who are there to scoop up as much as possible of whatever is… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Aplu, this hapless Director of the Mint was appointed by the very same morally aberrant personage as was the current dysfunctional Postmaster General, and by now we’ve all had more than adequate time and opportunity to see where and what that has led to. The apples, in this as in so many other cases, clearly haven’t fallen very far from the hopelessly corrupt tree.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Now that I think about it, Aplu, I do believe I actually tasted a deliciously frosty Mint Farce once while staying at the very exclusive Club Fred in San Sombrero.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Two things, Aplu. I for one wouldn’t pay the absolutely outrageous prices they charge for numismatic items on ebay no matter what. If I can’t get a coin or any other product from the Mint at the original release price then I don’t need it. As for the Mint taking heed of anyone’s complaints, the likelihood of that happening and a few bucks will get you a relatively cheap cup of coffee. Call me cynical, but experience tells the tale, and it isn’t a very hopeful one at that.

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Scott Dowling

Just not fair need to make a lot more

Kaiser Wilhelm

Lift that bale and tote that barge and keep those presses humming.

Big T

but then they won’t be as valuable…

Kaiser Wilhelm

Perhaps, but they’ll never be as colorful as a Schmetterling either, so there’s that.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Happily, butterflies aren’t just colorful but can actually make friends and as such make a significant contribution to reducing thread fare controversy.

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Big T

All, I agree the limit should have been 2 coins or less than 10 (it was 25 at one time) but it annoys me all those sour grapes below that didn’t get one and somehow this is the mints fault. Coin collecting is at an all new high since COVID – you can look at the PCGS value metric to see how high the rare coin value has exploded in last 12 to 15 months. The 1921 peace dollar value in high grades has more than doubled. So yes, there will be high demand, and while it’s annoying and frustrating… Read more »

Big T

And BTW I am a small time single collector and I do not sell / deal coins other than a trade here or there. And through a little pain and some persistence I was able to secure these coins as well as the V75 ASE (but not the gold one) and I did get the WWII anniversary coin, gold coin and silver medal, but was not able to get the 2019 S RP coin – so you get some and can’t get all of them but that’s coin collecting today. You can blame flippers, you can blame the mint, but… Read more »

Michael Weil

Except for one glaring incongruity, Big T; the greater majority of these coins aren’t being bought by collectors but by re-sellers. Massive buying groups, huge dealers and professional flippers clearly account for the preponderance of the Mint’s sales of the most desirable items. If an individual wants to add that coin or any other such numismatic product to his or her collection he/she is compelled to pay many times the Mint’s original issue price, which means the transaction has by then turned into much more of a “how much money do I have” than a “how much do I want… Read more »

Mark D.

Give it back or I’ll ask Granny Vicki — and Czar Nickoli — to send you an unfriendly missive!

Kaiser Wilhelm

I have the feeling that Granny Vic and the Cousins can’t help me this time. Ollie, it’s another fine mess I’ve gotten myself into.

Mark D.

They never liked you anyway. Remember that big flotilla thing you weren’t invited to but came anyway? Eddy and Nicky talked about you behind your back the whole time, is what I heard.

Kaiser Wilhelm

All I have to say about that is “A Russian and an Englishman walked into a pub…”

Big T

Re-sellers are in there but I don’t agree they are the majority.

Chas. Barber

They get 10% off the top & free reign to do what they want, I got emaiols offering $125 for the Morgans……look @ the pricing 2021 ASE Proof poof sellout in 1 hour & cost is now 2x issue or more. Limit items to ONE for ONE day, problem solved to an extent–OH & ELIMINATE THE DEALER BULK SALES & send Ryder to Stalingrad on the next train out of Dusseldorf….

Kaiser Wilhelm

No thank you, you can keep that hopeless bumbling fool. We in the Old Country only want people who can make the trains run on time.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

If one were to add up the total number of sales by the advance purchasers, the individual paid agents of the big dealers, and the masses of buying club members, that amounts to a significant cohort.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

None of these people involved in the coin reselling trade give a hoot about coins and/or collectors; their one and only concern is the moolah.

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Chas. Barber

No no, the MINT has developed a Sell Out ASAP attitude. Sales should, indeed must be limited to say 5 or less for a day. These types of collector massacres are common, repeat ad nauseum & end up in the big boys having plenty @ 2x issue. e.g. 2021 ASE Ty I proof, NO HH LIMIT costs you $150…..Morgan & Peace restrikes another cluster F & I’ve beed @ this game since I was a kid I got the CC GSA $1…I got 5 of the 2011 Anniv. sets, I got the Proof Pd coin, after that I might as… Read more »

Mark D.

Sure, comrade Chas, but I say help the US Mint, buy Canadian coins @ mint.ca site!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Unfortunately, Chas., they made sure to retire the Space Shuttle long before you could even make the choice to switch from Numismatics to Astronautics. Gosh, those darn Mint folks sure do know how to cover all the bases!

Chas. Barber

Kaiser I must say the Mint has the bases , the balls & the umpire…..It’s the NO HH limit that sucks, total pandering to resellers….

Chas. Barber

Ryder’s balls, the size of Milwaukee…..

Kaiser Wilhelm

Ugh, that is not a visual I am willing to subscribe to!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Well there we are then, Chas. We’ve got them for both pandering and for selling across state lines. That right there plain and simple just has to be a violation of the Mann Act.

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Dave

Yes, it is the mints fault. By reserving 10 percent of the production to the big companies and having a limit of 10 coins that leaves very little chance for a private citizen to acquire one of these coins.

JLR

It is the Mint’s fault when their website crashes, not just on this release, but on previous releases where they know they will have high volume but don’t update their website to handle the traffic. I don’t mind missing out on a coin because there is a limited supply, but I do get frustrated when I can’t even get a chance because the website crashes, or it won’t let me add it to cart, or it won’t let me complete transaction. The Mint Director should resign immediately! Every company makes errors, but when you don’t fix the error time after… Read more »

Michael Weil

JLR, Dave and Chas., you are all correct and the Mint is all wrong. And so far, after several years of non-stop Mint hijinks they have managed to fix absolutely nothing. They don’t care!

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Mark D.

I said, “GIVE IT BACK!!!”

Kaiser Wilhelm

NOW I know what GIB means! I missed this comment entirely my first few times through. And heck yeah, just where is that online identity cloaking device of mine? After all, it’s copyrighted, patented, and LLC.

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john lang

The mint sold my coins out of my shopping cart as I was trying to pay for them. THEIR WEBSIT WAS SLOW AND I PAID THE PRICE. I ENDED UP WITH NO COINS. Website didn’t update my bag so I was in wait mode and didn’t know what was going on. I always thought once you have it in the cart it was yours to pay for. This website slow getting it processed and then gives it away. When I called to complain the girl I talked to all but said that’s the way the mop flops. Many people had… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

The people who answer the phone there have no power. If you bug them long enough they will tell you that they are going to “escalate” your issue to a managerial level, which from repeated experience I have found to mean that you will never hear from them about this particular situation again.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I’m rather certain that nowhere in the dictionary definition of numismatic(s) is there made any mention of demand, supply, or any combination whatsoever of the two. Numismatics is all about collecting, after all, not competing, as the latter is a much more recent invention intended solely and precisely to drive up the price of numismatic items.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

But then again, Big T, don’t mind me, I’m just a bit of an OCD nitpicker. 🙂

Don Bour

I was one of the frustrated. The web site kept having server issues and timing out. By the time the site accepted my order items were no longer available after 15 minutes.

Scott Dowling

Anyone got more than they wanted like to have one of each please thank you

Steve

I still say everyone that wanted one would have had a pretty Good chance if not for the 10% put aside for dealers only. How many people including myself had a coin in the basket only to have it removed. That 10% would have made the difference. And I’m sure they grabbed even more today right up until the sell out.
They should go through the same nonsense as we had to. It’s just an outrage and something should be done. And believe me i tried very hard to get one of each exactly at noon.

Michael Weil

I’m sure the 10% made a difference, but it was the bulk of the remaining 90% getting grabbed by bots, buying groups and big dealers that really cleaned the Mint out. They do it every time.

Mark D.

Is this some kind hat trick? Shame on you for stealing from such a VERY old man.

Kaiser Wilhelm

The cups just keep moving around the little sidewalk table, and soon it will be impossible to guess exactly which of my personas is where.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

This dual personality thing has gotten away from me…it’s completely out of control. But hey, can I double my Household Limit?

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Kaiser Wilhelm

The problem with that, Scott, is that whoever does have some extras which they aren’t keeping will be selling them from $250 on up for the raw and easily double that for graded and slabbed ones.

Scott

I will trade a CC for an O

gary

4th time i got screwed

Kaiser Wilhelm

Apparently this Mint shutout routine is good training and practice for life in general.

kevinh

It was a stressful 20+ minutes, but I was able to get 4 separate orders through for 1 coin each. There were many errors, shutting down, re enter credit card info, and logging back in, but it was possible, which was nice after the 2019 RP eagle and WW II 75th Anniversary fiascoes. I hope the USM will reconsider the HHL for the next ones and maybe split up the order dates and times into 4 separate offerings. These were the least desirable on my list, but I’m glad to have them and maybe can trade for some of the… Read more »

Colin

I am troubled my fellow citizens are mad at our ~$25T-in-debt government doing something that made business 101 sense. Also, a lot of non-millennial ‘fairness’ haters out there, again. Got 1 of each – missed the V75 – will be back to chance it next week…

Kaiser Wilhelm

Selling a few million dollars worth of coins almost exclusively to people who are already wealthy is never going to do much of anything by way of reducing the national debt.

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vadim

Or inspire the next generation of young coin collectors.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Which is actually the over all most relevant, significant, and crucial point!

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Colin

Got a sweet email this morning – due to complaining, next week’s release has been postponed.

Now, I hope everyone gets a trophy only worth its intrinsic value!

Great job BOOMERS!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Last I heard a “boomer” is a nuclear-missile-armed submarine. I’m just guessing, but have we perhaps delved into more of an Alice In Wonderlandish situation here?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Just look how you’ve got me drifting off into an age-appropriate daydream…

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Kaiser Wilhelm

I have to say this is a real headscratcher for yours truly. What on God’s green earth is a “non-millennial fairness hater”? I can’t for the life of me even begin to parse that out.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Tried to apply what’s left of my poor old brain cells to solving this time warp problem…

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James J Madison

Put coin in at exactly 12:01 pm and could not get check out, mint server problem over and over.

Kaiser Wilhelm

The server warnings started to appear even before the noon “deadline”. Perhaps the legions of bots and mercenary buyers were already leaning on their buttons!

Sherril

What a disaster.I was able to get 1 of the cc because I couldn’t get the quantity arrows to work like a stupid person I should have been hitting add to cart 3 times as I wanted 3 for the grandkids.Then the “O” coins were unavailable but I never have gotten the confirmation email and my credit card hasn’t been charged?

Rich

Sherril, your credit card will not be charged until October, 2021 when your order is fulfilled and it ships. These coins are all pre-orders and the Mint’s policy is to bill your credit when the order is processed at shipment time.

Brian

I was able to purchase one of each and there is a $4.95 charge from the U.S. Mint on my credit card.

Paul

Mine was sure charged $89.95, soon as my order was placed, and received email confirmation.

Big T

mine was charged

Kaiser Wilhelm

How did that happen? The Mint said no charges until they ship the coins.

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Big T

i was charged for one but not the other one…

corners

I was also charged for both my orders .

OmahaJoe

They just authorize your card to make sure it’s valid, should drop off within I believe a day or so. I actually was able to place 1 order for the O and another for the CC and only had 1 authorization go through.

Kaiser Wilhelm

All things considered, a fine display of wildly wanton wackiness; yikes!

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FRED SAND

WHAT A BUNCH OF CCRRAAPP!!!!!!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Fred, why don’t you tell us how you really feel.

Craig Reel

I tied to order a couple of each, the website crashed. Naturally. What else should we expect? They don’t care about the true collector.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I would venture to say they don’t give a hoot about any collector, true or otherwise.

Mark D.

They probably pollute too.

Kaiser Wilhelm

The Mint is henceforth held responsible for chemical, financial, ethical, psychological and moral pollution. All the map directions are covered.

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Dave

I was able to get 10 of the CC & 6 of the O – not by choice.
When I placed the order – the quantity was stuck at 10 for the CC & 6 for th other. No matter quantity that I selected – reverted back to 10 & 6 –after 20 minutes & multipe crashes the order went through. I didn’t plan on spending so much $$

Felicia Anderson

I would be glad to purchase a Carson City from you.

Bill

Felicia, stay in touch with me, after all these orders in the next weeks perhaps we can do some trading. Even swaps depending on the successes in ordering.

Big T

Sure – $350

(joke)

Kaiser Wilhelm

Not a joke on ebay, I’ll bet.

Kaiser Wilhelm

That’s what you might call “backing intro flipping”, but hey, why not go for it.

Mark D.

Too kinky, that’s what.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Alors, mon ami, I think we can agree that kinky is as kinky does, n’est pas?

Mark D.

Bien sur!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Yo, it’s Big Sur, less’n ur sum kindah funny-talkin furriner.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Lotta moolah. Happy for your acquisition, sorry for your mishap. Cheers and holy cow!

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Felicia Anderson

I, too, tried furiously to purchase just one of each coin. I was literally sitting already on the website, signed in and no sooner had I put the Carson City coin in my cart, the site crashed and kicked me out. I tried in vain for 15 to 20 minutes to get back in while at the same time calling on the phone which also was in total melt down. I finally got back online but by the time I got to check out, the Carson City was sold out and I was forced to take it out of my… Read more »

Dave

I started out with multiple sessions to the mint website- & it kept crashing
Then I tried just one session (window) & I stopped hitting refresh and it finally went through. Then I did the same thing for the “O” – & order went right through. Still couldn’t change the quantities though

Felicia Anderson

Willing to sell a Carson City?

Felicia Anderson

I kept getting a “bad gateway” message totally blocking me out. Frustrating!

Jon pierson

I have put this on previous coins with these ridiculous manage limits. What I do is I go to the production schedule and hit remind me. The mint then sends me an email that morning that the coin is being sold. I tap on the prompt from the mint from the email. And I go right to the page where I can order with minimum difficulty. It takes me about 3 to 5 seconds to get from the email to where I can actually wait for the mint to start selling the coins. This way I bypass the bots and… Read more »

Felicia Anderson

I also used the link in the reminder. I was sitting at the ready to put Carson City in my cart exactly when sales opened up (11 CT). Even so, immediately after placing it in my cart I was thrown off the site with a “bad gateway” screen. Simply couldn’t get back in for 7 to 10 minutes minimum. When you say you had problems and “went through anyway”. If you’re locked out how exactly did you go through anyway? You ” kept proceeding “? Please elaborate. Also, were you using a Windows operating system, an Android operating system, Fire… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

I don’t understand how by going directly from your email link to the Mint’s website you were “automatically” logged into your account. I have never seen that happen.

corners

He probably was on the website before or the day of the sale.

Chas. Barber

HE also was on the Titanic

Kaiser Wilhelm

So which went down first, the old website or the new ship?

Kaiser Wilhelm

By the way, Chas., that comment is an instant classic.

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Chas. Barber

EXCEPT I got the REMINDER @ 10:00 EST……such efficiency,

corners

I had both the cc and the o pages up on my pc. Once i had the cc in my cart i switched to the o page. If the site crashed or took longer than 10 sec i refreshed the page. I got 2 and 2 the first time. I went back in after the first order for 2 more ccs and was successful. I was also successful back in 2011 with the anniversary sets, getting 2. Anytime i was ready i usually get the coin i want. By ready meaning i had been thinking about it for days and… Read more »

Felicia Anderson

Never dawned on me to try a double page approach. I will definitely try that on the 7th.

Daniel

Maybe they need to go old school. Back to their roots, and really sort out the men from the boys. back to a time when you’d drive by yourself for 4 hours, just to get to the mint doors, then line up with the other faithful. The picture below was just for a simple coin swap day (you could swap notes for bags of uncirculated coins, without any surcharge). When we are all prepared to spend hours online talking about it, and hours clicking refresh, I’m sure we’d all be happy to invest our time to get to the objective.… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

I recall the old days when I would walk uphill both going to school and coming home.

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Big T

In 4 feet of hot snow…

Chas. Barber

I remember the GSA doing a sale by mail for tons of Morgan & other silver coins, you paid various amounts & would get coins; I got a bunch, from 1923 P Peace to a 1883-CC Prooflike, an AU 1890-cc for $35…..runb efficiently & fairly….ahh I took my horse & buggy to pick up @ the PO

Kaiser Wilhelm

And that old horse was a heck of a lot smarter and safer than one of those newfangled self-driving cars.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Yep, I plumb forgot about that part. My little toes were cooking like hotdogs.

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Lou

I attempted to order 1 of each, at started at exactly at 12PM. The site immediately had problems and I attempted to order but each time got notices that the site lost contact. It continued to add a qty even though I only wanted 1 each and was up to 4 of the CC’s and 2 of the O’s. It finally crashed and I was told that the CC was unavailable and this was 17 minutes from when I started. I immediately switched to an O and that order actually went thru and I also received a confirmation. Frustrated? damn… Read more »

domenic

Did anyone else get their order in with confirmation page with order number and thank you for order….but not get any email. ? I checked my order and it says processing.

Felicia Anderson

Hang tight, my email confirmation was very slow in coming but I finally received it just a few hours ago.

domenic

TY…yup it arrived…6 hours later

Kingfamily714

I received my confirmation email several hours later as well but I suggest you sign in to your mint account and review your order. Despite receiving the “confirmation” email, my order is listed as the dreaded BACKORDER. Not holding my breath to get the 1 each that I had in my cart and ordered successfully. Let me know if you see the same issue.

Felicia Anderson

Just checked. Status “Processing”

Cornerss

Mine is also listed as back ordered. But I don’t think they allowed back order sales so I think we are good , as I got the confirmation email also

corners

B of mine are now listed as processing

Tom dooby

I’ve been collecting coins for about 50 years, since I was a kid. I think this 2021 Morgan sale debacle by the US Mint would probably end my coin collecting hobby. What’s the point to collect a coin you can’t get, except through some over price cable TV show or greedy eBay vendor? So for anyone thinking I’m crying in my beer, good! Now, there will be more coins for all you scumbag dealers to hawk. Some news for my generation and older; the young generation isn’t interested in collecting coins!!!!!! Selling everything now, the market is right, high prices,… Read more »

Daniel

Yeah, I had that sentiment earlier this year with the 2021-W ASE. I said I’m out, yet here I am again.

I ended up just sucking through my teeth and paying exorbitant eBay pricing because I wanted it.

I’m also about to spend $1,200 on an ungraded 2019-S ASE, which is just ridiculous.

Tom dooby

Yeah, I was looking at the same coin, and decided to buy a new TV, and a new suit! A lot more for my money then an over priced troy oz. of silver! Two years a go someone also paid $80 dollars for that coin also, and it wasn’t us small collectors!

Kaiser Wilhelm

The only value anything in the world has is what it is worth to you.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I’m not about to tell anyone else what’s best for them, Daniel, but DON’T DO IT! 😉

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Kaiser Wilhelm

My humble advice? Forget these coins but keep the hobby.

Kaiser Wilhelm

This is so ironically funny, Tom, because I just read a couple of comments blaming us oldsters for this whole debacle, including the destruction of the US Mint. What a hoot!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

159 comments in just six short hours. That’s simply amazing!

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Mark D.

This is hilarious. Joe Cocker intoned it best, “Cry me a river,” or, better yet, Sinatra greeting his audience with, “How’d all these people get into my room?” At noon I was watching a “Boondock Saints” double feature, for the coins-over-eyes numismatic content, of course. I used my meager discretionary cash to buy just one CC Morgan, a boo-tee-ful GSA, NGC certified Morgan in OGP, with COA. No waiting, no site crash, no paying 4x the value of silver for something with mercurial numismatic value at best. Just sayin’,…

Kaiser Wilhelm

That guy had soul. For that matter, why did Joe Cocker, J.J. Cale, Long John Baldry, Leon Redbone and Dr.John all have to vacate the Premises. They’re irreplaceable.

Silverface

I managed to purchase a few of each today. These are the first coins Ive purchased from the mint since the 2016 commemorative gold coins. I still have the 2016 commemorative gold SLQ I purchased. I remember the coin came out of the capsule and was loose in the package during shipping and has a scratch on the reverse because of the mint’s careless packaging. I decided to keep it instead on going through the hassle of returning it. I just noticed the money ebay sellers are making to flip these coins today. One seller sold sold 10 CC’s for… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Two things are true in regard to money. The rich get richer & you can’t take it with you.

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Mark D.

Also, it seldom has ANY intrinsic value. I have several 100 MILLION Deutsche Marks (holding pinky finger to corner of mouth)…cost me less than $10 US.

Chas. Barber

Peanuts I got billions of those Notegeld, I think 400,000,0000 got you a pork schnitzel back in ’23….

Kaiser Wilhelm

Hah! I seriously doubt there were any pork schnitzels to be had back in 1923. Likely as not it was horsemeat.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Ach, you were clearly charged the modern rate. Back in the good old days a wheelbarrow full of Reichmarks was worth nossing, as Schultzie would say.

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Chas. Barber

Indded, I never saw an Armored Car following a hearse…..

Kaiser Wilhelm

Unless, like some folks do, he wanted to be buried in his favorite vehicle.

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Jack

Ordered 10 of the cc’s. Order went thru at 12:07 and is now in back order status.

P Dawg

I have been a long time customer of the Mint and set down and realize how much money I spend with them every year and the same problems still exist every year has of today I am done purchasing all products from The US Mint.I am past the boycott stage and will be keeping my money and put it elsewhere and will not purchase any of the Morgan/Peace Dollars release’s from auction sites or off any home shopping tv (BS). That guy Mike M.has not been seen in over a year sets on the phone and tries to sell coins.Yeah… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mike “Sold Out Limited Edition” Mezack doesn’t need to go to work anymore. He’s made his millions so he now regales us with his disembodied voice from locations unknown.

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Dwest

D. West 05/24/2021 This is bull crap, The us mint does it again, this time they gave us the customer several days to order and with in minutes the Morgan is gone, I placed my order at 12:00 PM got to the 4th stage of ordering and on my final check out I get a message saying error and the system booted me completely out, I had to log back in to the us mint web site. I made 4 attempts at no avail, get this, I tested the system I just ordered a product and all of my information… Read more »

Carl

To all like me that couldn’t complete the transaction before the coins were gone, forget about buying from anyone for whatever price. As for me these coins are a big ‘Joke’, over priced rip off. If you want a real Morgan go to your local coin shop that you trust.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Wise words indeed. Take heed, people.

Late & Slow

Got on the site late, signed in and still got one CC.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Just two words. Pure luck.

kevinh

I know it’s easy for me to say, I was able to get my orders through, but there are hundreds of these on ebay and people paying $2-300, that only reinforces the flippers to order big again in the next rounds and keeps the price high for those wanting these. If people would hold off a couple of months they would likely pay less and the flippers with these would discouraged from ordering as many in the next rounds- especially if these actually start shipping in June and they have to put out the money. Hit them where it hurts,… Read more »

Mark D.

How about ebay putting the stop to all this irrational exuberance? Maybe just a 90-day moritorium after each mint release? Or, levy a steep speculation tax, as with shor-term stock holdings, for any profits on coins sold less than 6 months after purchase?

Amit A Patel

Why would ebay say no to a sale? ebay is in it to make money and they make money off each transaction.

Mark D.

Because they wouldn’t want to lose the customers that purchase the coins who are angry and boycotting eBay due to their complicity.

Sometimes it’s a good idea to be nice and side with being a stalwart citizen and eschewing price gougers, profiteers, rank speculators and their ilk. For the irretrievably cynical, if nothing else, it can also make good business sense.

Where would you prefer to shop, gouge-all-you-want-ebay or, we-ignored-the-mob-mentality and waited-for-prices-to-equalize-groovy-fairness-co-op?

Yeah, I know, not bloody likely.

Just feeling nostalgic for my original, home slice of the multiverse…this place is tres bizarre.

All hail Caligula!

Kaiser Wilhelm

In that respect His Most Ignominious Lowness Caligula has more to answer for than what equates to the sum total of the sins of all his predecessors combined. Welcome to the modern Caligulaverse!

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Mark D.

According to Claudius I, an emperor only has to be less hated than the emperor who follows to eventually be loved and deified.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Now we’re up to 229 comments at 14 1/2 hours after sales started yesterday at noon.

Daniel

They came to discuss coins, but stayed for Kaiser Wilhelm’s memes.

Mark D.

Je crois la meme aussi.

Chas. Barber

Oui, mais feme la busch

Mark D.

Did you mean, “fermez la bouche”?

I was agreeing! Actually, I just wanted to use “meme” with French meaning (memeing?), i.e., “self.”

Sheesh!

Mark D.

err…, not, “self,”…, meant, “same.”

Chas. Barber

Yup, I took French I…. 3 times…..oui…first test answer was oui, I wrote: “wee”

Kaiser Wilhelm

Well here you are, mes amis, chatting away in a language I know little if nothing about. Serves me right for going all Deutsch on you earlier. My spouse would easily grok Francaise, but I won’t ask her to interpret because this is my toy. Acclamations pour l’Autriche!

Kaiser Wilhelm

You’ve given my life a whole new purpose, Daniel; may the gods be kind to you!

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Patrick T. Roy

Would be nice to obtain one from the mint. Computer locks up every time I’m on there website for these releases.

Mike Petraitis

Just think it will be the same thing when they release the next four only certain people get lucky and get them.And what is going to happen when they release the 2021 American silver proof eagle type 2 coin the same thing.Why do some people go on line and have no problem purchasing coins and other people like me never have any luck.

Rooster

The type 2 silver eagle may be sold out.

jwp

For the type 2 – you can do a product enrollment for the next 3 – 2021 ASE’s. Go to the USM production schedule and check it out – it is available for enrollment. You can skip this 1st day mess and still get the item.

Rooster

The enrollment may have met their limit. Currently unavailable. May have sold out.

Mark D.

Just checked site, me thinks you haven’t…ASE enrollments have been NA for sometime. These grossly over-priced silver discs may well be sold out, long before they’re for sale!

Chas. Barber

Type 2 sold out, I saw Rydercoins.com has some pre-sale UP now

Kaiser Wilhelm

That’s right. All 3 varieties, W PRF, S PRF & W UNC, are gone re enrollments.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

With a grand total of 257 comments on the thread at this very moment and with just over 25 hours having passed since the very latest Mint sales fiasco, we’ve accrued an average of 10 people heard from every hour, or 10 CPH (Comments Per Hour). Impressive all around!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

For professional use only. Do not try this at home!

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Roger

Let’s credit the US Mint with another Fiasco perpetrated on 5-24-2021. Web site crashed three or four times, three or four different “fail” messages flash on the screen, and the inevitable “no longer available” after 10 to 12 minutes of struggling to place an order. Can’t wait to see what the premium cost for these “O” an “CC” Morgans will be on dealer and flipper sites. Once again the Mint has broadcast loud and clear that its main source of income is from the dealers and the flippers, not the single coin collector/purchaser like me. Regardless of how often the… Read more »

Daniel

It’s an interesting dilemma. I think we can all agree that selling and shipping 10% of your stock to 18 individuals (with a 5% cost uplift), is smarter than selling the remaining 90% to 16,000-160,000 individuals. That’s just good business practice. Having a dealer network take care of some distribution is smart business. It gives an alternate avenue for people that miss out, and there is a place for those willing to pay a little extra, for convenience. But the real issue at play is long-term supply chain. The mint is producing something to get to get to an end… Read more »

Richard Margolis

It is not a little extra, it is 250-300+ percent over the issuing price. I would be willing to pay a 25% premium, not $250/coin.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Daniel, we all know that 10% of the stock of limited issue coinage goes directly to 18 bulk purchasers. What none of us knows is how much of the remaining 90% ends up in the hands of those same and other large resellers by way of the employment of thousands of paid surrogates, countless members of buying clubs, and assorted other mercenary characters too numerous and/or nebulous to mention. When all is said and done the total count of individual collectors who are able to acquire one or more coins on release days may be a surprisingly low one.

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Wild Bill Coins

If you didn’t refresh your browser 150 to 200 times and keep trying to check out diligently you would’ve never got one of the coins it was very difficult and stressful and frustrating but I did end up getting them! It took 52 minutes to get the v75 ASE, but I got one and I sent it in to NGC and received a 70 grade! I’m just a collector I have never sold a coin yet! I had to buy the 2019 reverse proof American silver eagle immediately on eBay after it’s sold out for $385 it sent that one… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

At just 33-plus hours past yesterday’s Mint-Bungled Calamitous Coin Sales Catastrophe we have climbed past the 300 CoinNews.Net Comments mark. What a great thread this is!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Aw, come on, fellow collectors. We seem to be slowing down here just when we were doing so well piling up comments. Looks like we’re approaching the end of this news cycle.

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2galstopay4

Another waste of time for me. I really think the mint needs to address this issue, it is very frustrating. I even had my daughter trying and both of us got nothing.

Mike Polansky Sr

On line 12:04, placed order for 3 of each privy mark. Proceeded to check out and notice appeared stating “item in cart not available delete to proceed) I did and guess what, entire cart was emptied and attempt to repurchase has both items “unavailable” the us mint owes the individual collector a chance to purchase any certified coins and not be subject to price gauging by big coin dealers

Michelle

Hi everyone, Quick question. I placed an order, went through at 12:03, confirmation email, etc….mint took the money out of my account, checked this morning, and they put the money back in my account and order states BACKORDER. Is this normal, and will I still get my coin that I ordered?
Seems like they may take the money back out when they are ready to ship?
Just really curious, if not I will have to pay 3-4 times the amount to get one on eBay….Any info would be appreciated.

Mark D.

I’m guessing the charge was a temporary hold to verify your credit card account.

Michelle

Hi Mark,
Thank you, I sure hope that is the case 😉

Chas. Barber

The Mint charge$ you when they ship it out to you by Carrier Pigeon

Michelle

Hi Chas,
Thank you! I was beginning to think that my order was canceled…Carrier Pigeon LMAO!

corners

Mine said backorder at one point but has changed to processing as of today. I received both confirmation emails and my credit card was charged for both orders , in full.

cagcrisp

Michelle,
you shouldn’t have any concerns. It’s normal that your cc is “pinged” but not actually charged. You will NOT get charged until shipment. Shipment is scheduled for October. Backorder is what you Should be seeing at this point…

PAT P

THE HANDLIMG OF THE MORGAN DOLLAR RELEASE WAS HORRIBLE U S MINT WAS TOTALLY UNPREPARED PLUS THE WEBSITE WAS A COMPLETE FAILURE WAS ABLE TO GET LOGGED IN WITHIN FIRST MINUTE.. PUT NOTH ITEMS IN MY BAG AND TNEN SYSTEM WOULD NOT LET ME CHECK OUT THESE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE PREORDERED FOR LOYAL U S MINT CUSTOMERS…AND THEY COULD ADJUST PRODUCTION LEVELACCORDINGLY SOME ONE NEEDS TO FIRED OVER THIS TOTAL DEBACLE

Kaiser Wilhelm

Either your caps lock was stuck or you were very angry. I get a laugh out of making all caps the equivalent of speaking louder. Hint to everyone; it doesn’t work that way.

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Mike Petraitis

The US mint said they are sorry for the customers who were unable to purchase these coins.So what they are doing is sending out a box of condoms to those who could not purchase them because they got fu**ed

corners

Actually looks like they postponed the future sales and are working on their websites before the next sale.

But they did pretty much say “tough luck” when they said it was because of a silver shortage

Kaiser Wilhelm

This “silver shortage” gambit is a tired old routine that became boring years ago.

Scott

Anyone interested in trading me an O for a CC? I am in the Augusta Georgia area

Ken

I am.

Rodney AMoore

Everyone that tried to get a coin but didn’t, you may be surprised to find a pending authorization on your credit card. I have a $870 pending authorization on my card but got no email and nothing shows in my order history. A friend of mine has the same thing! I didn’t catch it yesterday because it is hidden under pending authorizations. It will drop off very soon but I recommend everyone check. My friend called the mint and the mint said they had “no idea” how that occurred. I tried calling earlier and was on hold for 55 minutes… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Whoever can survive being on hold for 55 minutes belongs in the Patience Hall Of Fame.

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Mark D.

BREAKING NEWS…AND TRAGICALLY FUNNY Dear Valued Customer, The United States Mint is committed to providing the best possible online experience to its customers. The global silver shortage has driven demand for many of our bullion and numismatic products to record heights. This level of demand is felt most acutely by the Mint during the initial product release of numismatic items. Most recently in the pre-order window for 2021 Morgan Dollar with Carson City privy mark (21XC) and New Orleans privy mark (21XD), the extraordinary volume of web traffic caused significant numbers of Mint customers to experience website anomalies that resulted… Read more »

Mark D.

Smells like freshly minted male bovine excrement to this reporter.

corners

Yeah, they pretty much say “Tough luck” right here “the reality is such that not everyone will be able to purchase a coin”

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Richard Margolis

we can be sure that the Elite 18 will get their coins without delay

Kaiser Wilhelm

That reminds me of March Madness except that this is All Year Insanity.

Kaiser Wilhelm

The June 1 and June 7 Order Release Dates for the next pair of Morgan Dollars and the Morgan and Peace Dollar have been indefinitely postponed.

The Enrollments for the three varieties of 2021-Type 2 American Silver Eagles have been capped at whatever they are now. No additions will be allowed or accepted.

Now let’s hear it again from any and all cheerleaders for the Mint how we are the problem.

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William Bonnie

The pre orders are postponed!!??

Kaiser Wilhelm

The Pre-Orders for the Morgans and the Peace are indefinitely postponed and the Enrollments for the three different 2021-Type 2 American Silver Eagles are closed.

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sam tweedy

Now the rest of the Morgan and Peace Dollars are delayed until the fall. Someone at the U S Mint still has a “Brain” amazing!!!!!

Richard Margolis

Will they change the max to one coin per customer and cc for the first 48 hours? We can always hope . Maybe a lottery system, one name/address

Kaiser Wilhelm

One coin per order? Anything’s possible except a lottery; the Mint doesn’t do that.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

It might be better to wait and see what happens before you grace the mint with kudos.

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bud

Mint delaying release of new coins until website is updated to handle traffic. This is a joke right?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Does anybody have that much of a sense of humor left after this latest Mint dysfunction?

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Big T

way to go guys – you ruined it for everyone

Daniel

LOL!
I love how they are effectively blaming the customer for unprecedented popularity.
Even though Blind Freddy wearing reflector sunglasses at night was able to see this coming.

The global silver shortage has driven demand for many of our bullion and numismatic products to record heights.”
I really hope that’s not what they truly believe, otherwise the mint doesn’t understand numismatics at all. A more simple business rule would be “If you are going to sell 200,000 of something, make sure you have 200,000 of it to sell”.

corners

I think those excuses are for the politicians that gave them flack after getting calls from their constituents

Kaiser Wilhelm

One would think they might have the grace and courtesy to a least apologize for this seemingly endless progression of colossal mishaps. But it’s the Mint.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

The Mint always does. It’s what they do best.

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kevinh

Do away with the 10% advanced purchase to the chosen few, split up into single coin days, lower the HHL to 1 or 2, 3 total if they leave them as 2 different mints on the same day, and…multiple, random, unannnounced on sale dates and times with 5-10 minute availability windows, then shut down. That would spread them out and limit the bottlenecks, make them available throughout the day/evening/overnight and limit the recruiting of groups. I think those of us that really want them wouldn’t mind checking back (many are doing it now for the ‘CC’ and ‘O’ scraps).

Daniel

I still check back for a v75 ASE weekly. I once did and saw a gold v75 coin. I didn’t want that, I wanted the silver, so stupidly spent 10 minutes umming and uhhhing about it. Finally decided to buy it and [gone]. Doh.

Kaiser Wilhelm

That’s happened to me more times than I care to recall. “You snooze, you lose.”

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kevinh

Ouch, I think most of us have done something similar lol.

Kaiser Wilhelm

The one good thing about these Mint shenanigans is that it gives us a lot to talk about.

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Mark D.

And, there’s 450.

Daniel

I just want to ask a stupid question, and hell, this thread is probably the place to do so.

How do you chaps navigate this site to reply to posts and keep track of conversations?
Do you just scroll up and down till you manually find a thread where someone has responded to something you have said?
If so, I don’t know how Kaiser Wilhelm manages to keep track of them all.
(I’m just wondering whether I can be more efficient.)

Mark D.

To subscribe to the entire thread, look for “subscribe” and envelope icon at very top of thread. Then confirm subscription via email you’ll receive.

To subscribe to responses to a comment you make, un-cross the bell icon then confirm the subscription via the email.

Kaiser Wilhelm

The Kaiser (due to his position it’s sometimes necessary to speak of himself in the third person ) has a wee bit of an edge in this regard. He is fully retired, applies good memory skills, has a very long attention span, and comes equipped with a monumental helping of OCD.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Whoa, it took me fully ten days to catch on to that part of your comment in which you stated that this thread is probably the place for stupid questions. Kudos, Daniel, on whether purposely or not managing to drop a funny bomb in the middle of all this folderol. I surrender.

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Last edited 2 days ago by Kaiser Wilhelm
Kaiser Wilhelm

Now we’re aiming for 500. Hyo Silver, away!

Mike H.

I wonder why the Mint couldn’t have minted 5million-10million of these Morgan silver dollars since they produce 30million-40+million ASE annually. Also, has anybody else wondered why the 2021 Morgan silver dollars are $85 each when a 2021 ASE costs $42, and the ASE has a full 1 oz. of silver while the Morgan dollar is just 0.858 of an ounce?! Price gauging, I suspect.

kevinh

Because of the demand for silver the USM was only able to procur 1,075,000 planchets for this program, by law the ASE program has precedence and with the 2 types of ASE this year the silver is going to them. The only ASEs available for $42 are bullion versions, not more limited collector uncirculated or proof versions. There is always a premium for the collector coins. $85 is a lot for less than an ounce of silver, but with the limited numbers not far off from pricing for collector ASEs, and with the demand for these they would probably sell… Read more »

Last edited 11 days ago by kevinh
Kaiser Wilhelm

As kevin already pointed out, those $42 ASEs aren’t collector quality coins; they are indeed the mass-produced (with no mint mark) bullion version minted for investment purposes. The numismatic 2021-Type 2 Proof ASEs will go for $73 each at the Mint, while the 2021-Type 2 Uncirculated ASEs haven’t had their price posted on the website yet.

Last edited 8 days ago by Kaiser Wilhelm
Kaiser Wilhelm

And by the way, Mike, if you see any bullion ASEs advertised as “Uncirculated” and/or shown in original Mint packaging with “Uncirculated” on the box, that is an entirely false representation. Bullion ASEs come packed in plastic rolls rather than singly, and while they come straight from the Mint that doesn’t mean they are “Uncirculated”. Collector quality ASEs that do come in their own Mint boxes are classified as “Burnished Uncirculated”, and they are the only ASE product entitled to that designation. Sellers all over ebay and Amazon, for example, try to sell their bullion ASEs as “Uncirculated” simply so… Read more »

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