A suggestion for the Odyssey: Dump the treasure back where they found it and let Spain pick it up. If they want it soo bad, let them invest the time, materials and manpower to bring it up.
Sir, This decision is unhjustful for the treasure hunters. Spain knew about the ship wreckage and did nothing about it. It was the Odyssey which spent resources and took the treasure out. this decision is against spirit of entreprenureship.
WHY does Spain get the treasure??? They stole it from the Indians of Central and South America, after the raped, plundered and slaughtered thousands of the true owners of treasure???
The powerful always rules.
So the us will keep the treasure.
Internatinal Law can be interpret in many ways.
The rigth thing to do is return it to South America
where it came from(stolen by invasion of spain to peru etc)
But again the powerful rules!!!!
Thanks
MCN
The treasure find was accomplished by John Edwards and Ballard joint venture with the Odyssey. It was not a state of Spain affair for Spain to lay their hands on the salvage. Edwards crew found it and pulled it up off the ocean floor. The Marine law states during a commercial engagement; if a ship or cargo is lost at sea; those who recover it get to keep it. The salvage belonged to John Edwards and his crew. What is this a diplomatic sell out? Is the judge crooked? Fema wears a blind fold as she weighs the balance of evidence on her scales. i recall many a coin dealer taking what i had and giving me nothing for it after they had run down my coin collection….some slight of hand….some by bold trickery. It is done all the time. Edwards got his teeth kicked in when they stole his treasure. Welcome to the club John. Its a thieving world under the cloak of authority and halo crowned creepy thieving ordained coin liars.
So if it was illegal for Edwards to keep the gold how was it was legal for him to explore and bring it up? Did the Spanish government think that he was going to risk life and limb and millions of dollars to turn it over to them? This is one of the most underhanded and illegal international conspiracies……………don’t create emenies for the USA while exploiting an American who goes by the letter of the International Maritime Laws and get screwed for it.
All this coming from a country that exploited the Indians of Peru and the Americas including the new world, and only since 1978 have they became a supposed democracy.
What rights could Spain have? The brutally steal it from the Indians. The claim from Spain to the treasure is repugnant.
If the ones from the Odysee are pirates, the Spanish are thieves and steal it from the Indians in the first place, by means of slavery an force labor. And as the Spanish proverb says: “The one that steal from a thief got one hundred years of forgiveness”.
If the coins are a cultural heritage of Spain, Does it mean that the killing of millions of Indians is also a cultural heritage?
If we were to solve this upon moral issues…only the Indians could have any ethical or moral rights the treasure was their work and sweet the one that produced it in the first place . For the rest, the one that recover it, take it.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
A suggestion for the Odyssey: Dump the treasure back where they found it and let Spain pick it up. If they want it soo bad, let them invest the time, materials and manpower to bring it up.
June 9th, 2009 at 2:16 am
Sir, This decision is unhjustful for the treasure hunters. Spain knew about the ship wreckage and did nothing about it. It was the Odyssey which spent resources and took the treasure out. this decision is against spirit of entreprenureship.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
WHY does Spain get the treasure??? They stole it from the Indians of Central and South America, after the raped, plundered and slaughtered thousands of the true owners of treasure???
July 10th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
The powerful always rules.
So the us will keep the treasure.
Internatinal Law can be interpret in many ways.
The rigth thing to do is return it to South America
where it came from(stolen by invasion of spain to peru etc)
But again the powerful rules!!!!
Thanks
MCN
August 9th, 2009 at 9:04 am
The treasure find was accomplished by John Edwards and Ballard joint venture with the Odyssey. It was not a state of Spain affair for Spain to lay their hands on the salvage. Edwards crew found it and pulled it up off the ocean floor. The Marine law states during a commercial engagement; if a ship or cargo is lost at sea; those who recover it get to keep it. The salvage belonged to John Edwards and his crew. What is this a diplomatic sell out? Is the judge crooked? Fema wears a blind fold as she weighs the balance of evidence on her scales. i recall many a coin dealer taking what i had and giving me nothing for it after they had run down my coin collection….some slight of hand….some by bold trickery. It is done all the time. Edwards got his teeth kicked in when they stole his treasure. Welcome to the club John. Its a thieving world under the cloak of authority and halo crowned creepy thieving ordained coin liars.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:57 am
So if it was illegal for Edwards to keep the gold how was it was legal for him to explore and bring it up? Did the Spanish government think that he was going to risk life and limb and millions of dollars to turn it over to them? This is one of the most underhanded and illegal international conspiracies……………don’t create emenies for the USA while exploiting an American who goes by the letter of the International Maritime Laws and get screwed for it.
All this coming from a country that exploited the Indians of Peru and the Americas including the new world, and only since 1978 have they became a supposed democracy.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:01 am
I agree with everyone that’s posted, the discovery channel has done a excellent job of exposing the extent of the current Spanish ternary.
The entire Spanish argument goes out the window when it’s established they had no idea where the treasure is/was.
Perhaps they rather fishing trawlers keep dragging and dispersing around everything else that’s down in the depths.
September 30th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
What rights could Spain have? The brutally steal it from the Indians. The claim from Spain to the treasure is repugnant.
If the ones from the Odysee are pirates, the Spanish are thieves and steal it from the Indians in the first place, by means of slavery an force labor. And as the Spanish proverb says: “The one that steal from a thief got one hundred years of forgiveness”.
If the coins are a cultural heritage of Spain, Does it mean that the killing of millions of Indians is also a cultural heritage?
If we were to solve this upon moral issues…only the Indians could have any ethical or moral rights the treasure was their work and sweet the one that produced it in the first place . For the rest, the one that recover it, take it.