2021-W $5 American Gold Eagle Two-Coin Proof Set Launch

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Out with the old, in with the new — or in this case, why not get both? That may be the philosophy behind the U.S. Mint’s release today of its "2021 American Eagle One-Tenth Ounce Gold Two-Coin Set Designer Edition."

U.S. Mint product images 2021-W $5 American Gold Eagle Two-Coin Proof Set
U.S. Mint product images for the 2021-W $5 American Gold Eagle Two-Coin Proof Set. The set is a marriage of first and last year issues.

Included in the 22-karat, two-coin proof set is an American Gold Eagle with original (Type 1) designs and an American Gold Eagle with new designs (Type 2).

Just 5,000 of the sets will be available with an initial household order limit of one.

A design change for the 35-year old American Eagle Gold Coin Program was announced last year, the first in its history. This includes a "refreshed" version of their classic obverse (heads side) and a completely new reverse (tails side).

2021 American Gold Eagle Redesign Features
This U.S. Mint image shows the key redesign features of the 2021 American Gold Eagle (Type 2)

Classic 2021 American Gold Eagles (Type 1) were initially offered in one-ounce and fractional sizes on March 11th. The replacement Type 2 editions followed on July 29th. Both sets of coins sold out in minutes of their release.

Today’s two-coin set offers buyers the chance to get one each of the classic and new one-tenth ounce versions through a single product purchase, albeit only a few will be successful owing to the small product limit.

Coin Designs

Obverses of both coins feature a likeness of Liberty as originally designed by Augustus Saint-Gaudens. The image dates back to the 1907 to 1933 Double Eagle $20 gold coin and has proven to be a favorite of many collectors. So much so that it re-appeared and remained on American Gold Eagles since their introduction 1986. For the new Type 2 coins, the design was refreshed utilizing modern technology that scanned historical U.S. Mint assets.

2021-W $5 Proof American Gold Eagles, Type 1 and Type 2
U.S. Mint product images of 2021-W $5 Proof American Gold Eagles (classic/Type 1 designs and new/Type 2 designs)

The full-length version of Liberty is shown with flowing hair, holding a torch in her right hand and an olive branch in her left. She is surrounded by the inscriptions of LIBERTY, 2021 and a W mintmark indicating the coin’s production at the U.S. Mint’s facility in West Point.

For the Type 1 reverse, we find a male eagle carrying an olive branch flying above a nest containing a female eagle and eaglets. This design was created by Sculptor Miley Busiek Frost and executed by United States Mint Sculptor-Engraver Sherl J. Winter. It has been featured on American Gold Eagles since 1986.

This image is replaced with the one found on the new Type 2 design. Depicting an eagle, the redesigned reverse was created by U.S. Mint Artistic Infusion Program Designer Jennie Norris and sculpted by Medallic Artist Renata Gordon.

Reverse inscriptions on both coins read: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, E PLURIBUS UNUM, IN GOD WE TRUST, the legal tender face value of 5 DOLLARS and the content of 1/10 OZ. FINE GOLD.

Coin Specifications

Denomination: $5
Finish: Proof
Composition: 91.67% Gold, 3% Silver, Balance Copper
Diameter: 0.650 inch (16.50 mm)
Weight: 0.1091 troy oz. (3.393 grams)
Edge: Reeded
Mint and Mint Mark: West Point – W
Privy Mark: None

 

Ordering

Orders for the two-coin proof will be accepted beginning at Noon ET from this U.S. Mint product page. Pricing for the set is $645.00.

Both coins of the set are encapsulated and packaged in a single black presentation case. An outer sleeve showcases both reverse designs with an individually numbered Certificate of Authenticity offering imagery of the obverse and reverse designs. A limited number of the CoA’s are signed by United States Mint Director David J. Ryder.

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Daniel

I wonder how they got the mintage of product limit of 5,000 when they have all but exhausted the mintage limits of the 1/10” West Point Gold Eagles (see attached picture).

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Big T

product limit is different than mintage limit – but I see your point

Daniel

Yeah, that’s why in my table I articulated the remaining coins possible from the mintage limits of the two types of 1/10 oz coins. There simply isn’t enough to fulfil the product limit of this “set”.

I honestly thought this would be a bigger deal for the members here.
Though maybe we are just used to the mint fabricating numbers and screwing collectors.

Larry T

i’m beginning to feel like I’m gay, if you know what I mean? Again people sarcasm!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Daniel,

It is quite a big deal, and even more than that it’s a big mystery. Where did these particular gold cones come from?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Note to myself, Kaiser,

What is a gold “cone”? Don’t forget to proofread!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Daniel, I agree that the Mint is forever putting the needs and interests of collectors behind and below that of the industrial-size buyers and re-sellers, but I rather lean toward the notion that when it comes to numbers the way in which the Mint chooses to disguise them is not by simply making them up as they go along but in keeping these numbers well hidden. I suppose their rationale behind that would be “if they (meaning us, the individual collectors) can’t find a particular figure it’s just as good as if it never existed in the first place.” Perhaps… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Big T,

Fully understood, but that by itself doesn’t explain the strange mismatch between total mintage and total product sales.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Big T,

Another point to possibly keep in mind is that while the Mintage Limit can exceed a Product Limit, a Product Limit cannot exceed the Mintage Limit.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Daniel,

I searched high and low in the mintage records of the Mint for a possible source for either of those coins and quite frankly I simply could not find one. I’m baffled.

David Kaye

You are correct. The final number of 1/10 oz type 1 gold eagles minted will be 21,200 coins, far above the product limit of 5,000 SETS. The mintage limit of type 1 1/10 oz gold eagle coins sold BEFORE the release of the 2 coin designer set was 16,200 (which includes the individual coin and 4 coin type 1 set). Since the mint released the 2 coin set, the actual mintage for the type 1 will be 21,200 and it’s probably a similar situation for the type 2 coin.

Joe

Bulk Purchasers already have them on Ebay for $1,100 !!

Why the mint continues to allow that is beyond me.

They don’t care about the small collectors who have supported them for years and for decades.

c_q

ideally pre-sales should not be allowed on ebay, you shouldn’t be able to sell what you don’t have. it’s called naked shorting in the stock market and is illegal.

now, if you have a confirmed order email, then OK maybe sure in that case you can sell it, as you technically have one, just not delivered yet. but speculatively hoping you can land one and refund if you can’t, that’s not cool.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

c_q,

There wouldn’t be nearly as many pre-sales on ebay if all those re-sellers weren’t being supplied by the Mint’s Authorized Bulk Purchasers program.

ron schmidt

Had one in my cart, lost it………mint customer 30 plus years……and will never buy from secondary mkt…….done with the mint…….

Mike Petraitis

Joe I agree with you 100% on that statement.I have been purchasing coins for many years and I have never sold any of the coins I purchased and never will I enjoy collecting them it is my hobby. I will pass my collection on to a friend of mine and hope they enjoy the coins like I have.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mike P,

That is the only way to go. Your behavior is a credit to the coin collecting world.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Joe,

The Mint isn’t just “allowing” this, it is causing it thanks to the program of pre-selling 10% of the mintage directly to the Authorized Bulk Purchasers. The Mint is thereby effectively not just shorting it’s coin collecting customers but enabling a profiteering secondary market to operate simultaneously with the Mint’s scheduled public sales.

ron schmidt

Absolutely……………

Chris

I would have rather seen a 1/4 oz set instead.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Chris,

Taken outside the context of price and supply, that is a very reasonable request.

Joe

Then the set would have been about $1,500.

A little expensive for some.

Rooster

$3225 per ounce. Have to pass. I’ll side by side the 1 ounce coins.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rooster,

Which is nice of course, and for those of us who don’t have any of either, duo-boxed or separate, we’ll continue to appreciate the pictures. It is what it is.

Mammoth

$645 for two-tenths of an ounce of Gold???
Maybe for one of the ‘limited number of the CoA’s signed by United States Mint Director David J. Ryder.’

…on second thought – NO.
David J. Ryder can go pound sand. He is responsible for fixing the problems we coin collectors have when ordering products from the Mint.

Chiumeister

A few benefits of ordering these from the US Mint over broker is:

  1. no sales tax
  2. the broker will push heavily into selling stuff you don’t want
  3. proof vs bullion

The tax narrows the $700 difference as much as $200 for CA and NY
Brokers will often sell another $300 of useless stuff
not sure about the proof premium.

On this set. Since there is no mintage limit, what’s to stop US Mint to roll more of these 1/10 in the future?

Big T

It is true you can buy the bullion coins from websites like providentmetals.com for small premium over spot. BUT they are bullion coins that come in tubes of 20 in monster boxes and not proofs or uncirculated coins that are individually boxed and handled better. The bullion ones are just cranked out really for investors, not collectors. It always amazes me that the bullion silver ASEs are sold as ‘collectible’ coins after getting PCGS to grade them – which if I was the grader I would refuse to grade investment bullion coins. Who cares if they are MS 70 or… Read more »

Larrry T

Big T

I’ve been following Mike ‘Coin God’ Mezack for years now and he clearly states that “you must, you must have these new Type 2 silver eagles in your collection. You must get them right here right now, you must get them right here right now!” Clearly these coins are extremely limited, I mean rare, and you will be able to put your kids through college if you get them.
For those of you who tend to believe everything you read, I’m being sarcastic.

sam tweedy

Mike Mezack is the “Coin God” and also the “KING” of coin collecting, I am “Not” being sarcastic. Truth always wins !!!

Kaiser Wilhelm

sam,

I get a smile on my face whenever “your country” is heard from. Kudos!

Coinman

Sorry Sam, Mike “Not Enough Coins” Mezcak is neither a Coin God nor a King of coin collecting, he is basically a BAG OF HOT AIR!!!! Pretty much a snake oil peddler of yesteryear.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Coinman,

I’m compelled to answer this two different ways.

Sam is always goofing around, therefore it’s imperative to take anything he puts out here as requiring not a grain but at least a whole shaker of salt with it, so there’s that.

Now as to that coin-hawking windbag commonly known as Mike “Sold Out Limited Edition” Mezack, well, that’s pretty much self-explanatory. He’s a permanently prevaricating profiteer; ’nuff said. “Coin God/King of Coin Collecting? Hardly.

Kaiser Wilhelm

sam,

By the way, simply saying something is true does not make it so, unless of course you are a True Believer in Wonderland, in which case all manner of lies saturate what’s left of your cotton candy brain.

Joe

You mean…..Mike ‘CON GOD’ Mezack !!

Howard Klein

How about ” First Strike ” designation? To me first strike is the first one minted. Anything else is just part of the production run. Whole 500 coin monster boxes are graded with first strike labels. Means nothing. See how much you get when it comes time sell. The only thing the holder is good for is to verify it’s genuine, nothing more.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Howard K,

If these are Bullion strikes none of that even matters. There is no earthly reason for Bullion investment pieces to carry any designation because it is beyond pointless to ever grade and slab them since they are not collectable coins. They are worth their melt value and no more.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Big T,

That was one of the best explanations of the radical difference between investment quality bullion pieces and numismatic quality coins I’ve seen in a long time. Thanks for posting that!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Chiumeister,

Apparently there continues to be a misunderstanding of the term “No Mintage Limit.” It means there is no mintage pre-determined and not that there is an unlimited mintage. There is a really big difference between the two.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mammoth,

Ryder is more accustomed to pounding our frustrated ambitions into the dust.

Larrry T

I am just curious if anyone will ne trying to buy this set. I’d imagine if you are a collector of the 1/10th AGE’s this set would fit nicely in your collection. It is a bit expensive though!

Rob S

I’ll have (will have) both 1/10th oz from previous orders, got lucky I guess. Why would I want this set? And why the even more extravagant premium … the type 2 1/10 sold for 315, they type 1 even less. 645???

Does the packaging really mean that much to invest … er, I mean collectors? Seems only for the dealers to charge more.

Plus, it doesnt come with the red oak presentation box!! 😉

Scott L

You realize it’s 2 coins right?

Larry T

Scott.

I only paid $15 over what the Type 2 1/10th AGE sold for and know the ‘set’ contains two coins. I like to get these limited edition sets because sometimes they go for big $$ in the secondary market. Mine will stay with me in my safe! Also, I’m curious what the sets with the signed COA will go for? Congrats if you were able to get one!

GCap

How many are supposed to be signed

Rob S

And why the even more extravagant premium … the type 2 1/10 sold for 315, they type 1 even less. 645???

Yes, but like Larry T said, its still $15 over – even if you double the type 2 cost that just sold.
I just dont get all the packaging “hoopla” / hype (to me anyway). Thats for some hard(er) core collectors than myself.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob S,

What, no red “Chicom” (look it up if you have to) oak presentation case? Just lost any interest I may have ever had in this item.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob S,

Whoa, hold on there. Isn’t the red oak presentation box a Mike “You’ve never before been ripped off by anyone quite like me” Mezack proprietary item? He could end up suing you for untold multiples of the dollar value of all the woefully overpriced packaging you’ve ever had the “good fortune” to acquire.

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Mark

Tried to get this set and was again burned by the mint. Already signed in… had the coin ordered within 15 seconds. Was met with a place finger here bot check. allowed to purchase and redirected to invalid page. Coin still in bag… return to checkout … process… then given a mispriced coin error and asked to remove from bag. Now we’re 1 min in and figure there’s still time so I remove coin, repeat the process including bot check and on purchase…. Unavailable at this time! All in a minute and a half! Done getting up early for the… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark, You just brought some additional clarity as to what makes ordering from the Mint not only difficult but unnecessarily complicated and inevitably so very frustrating. It is not just the individual roadblocks that one encounters in the ordering process that make tryin to purchase a coin such a tiresome task, it is their totally random appearance and also their tendency to come in multiples not only of themselves but with each other. All of these impediments not just lumped together but also making the most inopportune appearances on the screen add up to the major reason so many individual… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Slight addendum referring to the above discussion with Mark…

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sam tweedy

That is one pissed off looking eagle !!!! Yikes !!!! Don’t worry Mike Mezack will be hawking these soon for a great “DEAL” !!!! Understand !!! Scary !!!

Larrry T

Sam

Mike Mezack calls it ‘fierce looking’, probably the only thing he ever said that I agree with! lol

Rob S

I’ve commented in the original type 2 release, but it looks to me like a “parakeet”. haha just my opinion, in the eyes of this beer-holder. Get this thing some red bull STAT, ‘cuz it needs some wings. Looks like it was designed at an Ozzy Osbourne concert in the 80s. It just seems less majestic IMO w/o the wings of the darn symbol of this country. I bet it looks better in person tho. I’m not a MAGA guy by ANY means, but to me this says more like, “Hi we’re America .. we’re sorry.” I’m not so eager… Read more »

sam tweedy

If you were a MAGA guy you would say this is Real America !!! Don’t mess with me!!!!

Kaiser Wilhelm

sam,

Don’t tell me you forgot again that you can’t use catnip as a seasoning!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob S,

Always thought America was pretty darn great until the MAGA mob came along, but then, who’s counting.

Kaiser Wilhelm

sam,

Sadly for us but obviously not for him the irrepressible Mike “I’m laughing all the way to the bank with your money” Mezack doesn’t give half a hoot what we think.

Peter Lowell Gordon

Holy smokes. Went in at exactly 9 am (PT) and ordered and checked out in 20 seconds. Amazing.

Adam L

I got mine is less than a minute. But this is the first time it has ever made me press and hold anti bot system 2 times before it went through. For the D&S Morgan dollars I didn’t see that just a few bad gateway or page doesn’t exist. Eventually I got 3 of each.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Adam L,

Having to switch up your tactics and responses every time you order helps serve to keep you on your numismatic toes.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Peter L G,

Congrats on a rare experience!

Chiumeister

Another total waste of time.
Sold out in a minute.

Rob S

I got some satisfaction out of not having interest. BP level was not raised by this one. So I say buh-bye. 😉

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob S,

I purposely overslept so I wouldn’t have to make a decision. 🙂

Kaiser Wilhelm

Chiumeister,

Glass half full? You only wasted a minute!

Victor

2-3 minutes in and its gone.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Victor,

There is that. But, “Where have all the flowers gone…”

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Victor,

Just in case that was before your time (granted, I have no way of knowing that)…

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Peter Lowell Gordon

Unavailable by 9:04 am (PT).

Coinbread

Yep. But I had no problem placing an order and checking out. None!
Best checkout in years.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Coinbread,

Congrats and savor that. Just sayin’.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Peter L G,

Hmmm…just about four minutes shy of the record set by the 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle, a standard that will likely last forever.

Jake

Oh yeah, in and out in under a minute. I have a feeling I’m getting the autographed COA. Still on track for the best 2021 collection ever!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Jake,

Double congrats and hope your numismatically wildest dream does come true.

David T

Had it in my cart. Tried to pay 4 different times, then got the you are not a human tab. Then back to my cart and tried again to see that it was no longer available, but was still showing in my cart. If its in your cart, they should not be able to get it out….

Dan

Had the same issue with the you are not human thing. Does anyone know what’s causing that issue?

Larry T

Dan,

I think it’s because you are not human! Now come clean, what planet outside of our solar system do you come from?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Dan,

A computer is not a sentient being, ergo it was simply following its programmer’s dictates. It’s him (or perhaps Ryder) you should be cross with!

Joe

Why ?? People leaves things in their cart for days and weeks……

Maybe, not you. But others do therefore….FIRST COME FIRST SERVED….IN CHECKOUTS !!

P.S. leave it in your cart for over one minute….and it is sold out !!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Joe,

The old story of the quick and the dead, except clearly not as drastic.

Lou M

Yeah, I got to the final checkout screen 10 times in that 2 minutes but ended up with a ‘page not found” every time. Seems that the only way they “fixed” their server issues was just by putting more CAPTCHA nag screens in place. Funny thing is, I’m not really that upset. I feel like I just earned $645. That we’re all scrambling to pay over $3000/oz of gold is only going to encourage the Mint to put together more of these “limited releases”, and they’ll just overplay their hand…watch in 10 years how there’ll be so many more of… Read more »

Daniel

Yes, it is a downhill spiral. I have seen it within the Royal Australian Mint. Years ago they started producing limited release, novelty/themed coins.
A fellow collector I know calls them “Granny bait”, as they appeal to little old ladies who want shiny things. That said, us collectors naturally get suckered in due to the limited volume … and before long, as you rightly point out, the mint has this garbage as a reliable income stream.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Daniel,

The RAM would have to go full weird steam ahead to catch up with the Royal Canadian Mint and its ongoing production of grotesqueries. “Coins” in the shape of Mountie Hats and Christmas Trees. Simply amazing!

Daniel

WOW! That was worth the google search. Hahahaha

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Daniel,

Many thanks for posting that. I was torn between the choice of this hat and the Christmas tree, but come to think of it I’ve seen others at least their equal. There was a toy train, all manner of Canadian fauna in full 3-D, and figures, structures and ornamental decorations of all varieties.

Here come the Eiffel Tower, the Tower of London, and the Towering Fjords on collectible Euros; now we’re all doomed!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Lou M,

$645 dollars in your pocket that almost weren’t there any longer; what a bonus!

Kenneth C

My son and I both tried and had the same experience as you. I also had the issue on Tuesday. We are at the point where we are thinking about not purchasing anymore products from the mint.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Kenneth C,

Don’t let these experiences discourage you. One thing for sure, you’re certainly not alone; many of us here have had at least as many misfires as successes when ordering from the Mint. Believe it or not, while one may never get used to it, one does learn to live with it.

Kaiser Wilhelm

David T,

Oops. Sorry that happened, but you are in good and plentiful company.

Mark D.

So says Choo-Choo Charlie, if memory serves.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark D.,

Alas and alack, my memory serves no one these days, not even me.

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Mark D.

Should have gone to the Kollege of Musical Knowledge (instead of MSU?)!

Mark D.

Here’s Charlie…

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark D.,

Aw, he’s so cute. Any relation to the one that got stuck on the MTA? Grandson, maybe?

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Mark D.

I dunno. He never returned.

The tangential numismatic connection, I presume, was intentional.

I’m not worthy.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark, That was indeed the year. Nice coin. What I for the life of me could not understand is why his (allegedly?) faithful wife, rather than handing him a sandwich or two every day he stopped by her station, didn’t just give him the gosh darned nickel he needed to be able to “buy” his way off. Is it just me, or are we in the presence of one of the most monumental – and impressive, I must grudgingly admit – logic errors of all time. Although, since the locale in question is Boston, perhaps this is in fact all… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark D.,

Perhaps so, but what a marching band we had back then in what turned out to be one of the greatest eras of Spartan football. Heck, we even defeated the Persians!

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Mark D.

Xerxes or Darius?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Uh…Notre Dame. (I think they were east of us!)

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Mark D.

Nope. South Bend is west and, um, south of East Lanzig. However, “Persia” is east (some 6K miles), so there’s that.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark,

Wow, finally I am apprised as to how we ended up skirmishing with a passel of rather agitated Buckeyes when we had instead intended to lay siege to good old Notre Dame. Holy wrong direction, Batman!

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Larry T

I picked one up and was also concerned about the ease and speed which I sailed through the Mints website, less than ! minute. Then I refreshed and damn they were Sold Out! 5000 sets gone in 2-3 minutes..Wow!

Peter Lowell Gordon

I agree with the ease of getting this set. Wonder how many people were influenced by the Pinehurst Coins offer to buy one for them? I did not.

Larry T

Peter

What is Pinehurst Coins offering for these sets? I have a spot picked out for this set in my safe. Oh, football alert, tonight is the 1st NFL Pre Season game!

Peter Lowell Gordon

This is the quote from Pinehurst that they emailed me on Wednesday afternoon. “Paying $50 Over Mint Issue Price Per Two-Coin Set, Plus A Free, Fully Insured Shipping Label!”

Kaiser Wilhelm

Peter L G,

I neglected to touch upon what Pinehurst’s “generous” offer is…gawd, but are they ever the cheapest of buzztards or what!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Peter L G,

Pinehurst is one of the nation’s biggest re-sellers and a standout among coin profiteers if there ever was one. I would highly recommend keeping a safe distance.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Peter L G,

Anyone who might have found themselves in any way motivated to take up Pinehurst on their patently laughable offer is also ready to buy a bridge in Brookland and some choice swampland in Florida. And, no money down, but they will have to send in a couple of WalMart gift cards as security.

Mammoth

Wow, those sold out fast. Wanna bet most of these went to the flippers?

This is a preview of next Tuesday’s blazing fast sellout of the 2021 Peace dollars…we’d better drink a full pot of coffee to help us type FAST.

Coinbread

No, next Tuesday’s Peace and Morgan Dollars will take much longer than 2 mins. You’re dealing with 350,000 coins and a lot more people that will pay $85 rather than $645. So the traffic is going to be enough to bring the web page to a lockup again with all kinds of error messages and difficulty checking out. My guess is around 30 min. vs. 2 min for this set. It’s just how many logins and people trying to place orders can the web page actually handle at once. So look for a problem order day next Tuesday.

Peter Lowell Gordon

Wish they had limited the Morgan and Peace Dollars to 1 coin for the first 24 hours (I know, there will be a sellout well before 24 hours).. The 1 coin limit seems to eliminate many of the large flippers. I had a good experience with the gold eagles and today’s set that were limited to 1 coin, while the 3 coin limit coins had many more problems.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Peter L G,

Fabulous thinking. The 1 coin Household Order Limit is the single best weapon in the Mint’s arsenal to get as close as possible to at least reducing if not entirely eliminating the perpetual curse of marauding profiteers.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Memo to Self Kaiser: Remember to vote for that in the next National Numismatic Referendum…

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Larry T

375,000 coins…200,000 Peace Dollars and 175,000 Morgans.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Coinbread,

Good call. I would hazard a guess that another monumental e-traffic jam of numismatically biblical proportions is in the works. Take your sedatives approximately 30 minutes before “Go Time” so as to maximize their effect.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mammoth,

That would be a really safe bet, my friend. I have a firm belief that the more desirable the coin the more likely that most of the Mint’s stock, one way or another, bypasses us individual customers completely to end up in re-sellers’ catalogs.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mammoth,

Let’s imagine that we have our own version of the Olympics, but rather than medals we get coins…but only if we “win.”

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Mammoth,

Forget about drinking the coffee. Situations like this call for an I.V. drip! Stat.

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George Wolfe

did my best , lost out in the checkout process, unavailable at 12:05

Kaiser Wilhelm

George W,

Whether at the Mint or in Margaritaville, we all lose something sometimes. But don’t give up…there’s always just as much chance of a lucky win.

Mike Petraitis

It was the same old thing I placed an order for the set went to check out and pay said the page could not be found. I called customer service and the lady said you have to prove your human by clicking on a square box.I told her I did and it did not work.She said she would report it .What good is that going to do.I also agree that there are people out there who purchase coins and turn around and sell them which I believe is unfair.I buy coins to collect for myselfe and never have sold any… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mike P,

Neither the world nor the Mint is fair. That being said, and with your heart so clearly being in the right place, please don’t let this disappointment discourage you from trying again; you will, I swear, win sometime.

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Scott L

Managed to snag one. Only failed 1 time at payment page. Order confirmed processing by Mint

Kaiser Wilhelm

Scott L,

We have another winner. Congrats!

silverinvestor

I passed it , because the gold value will sank down crazy and the packing is too easy to make counterfeit.

Larry T

silverinvester, Do you mean you think the value of gold will go down drastically? I would argue the opposite with these socialist ‘leaders’ of ours spending money like drunken sailors (no offense to sailors!) We now are providing legal counsel to illegal immigrants (at your expense of course) and plans to spend trillions more on ‘green initiatives’ and human infrastructure (whatever the hell that is, also at your expense!) In 10 years, I think gold will be closing in on $3000/oz. as our dollar becomes more closely related to the Mexican Peso! Remember that in 2006 gold was trading for… Read more »

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sam tweedy

You got that right, Larry we are all screwed, WWIII is not far away, any day now!!!

Kaiser Wilhelm

sam,

It appears that said major conflict is already being waged rather vigorously between your ears, but that’s a story for another day.

Kaiser Wilhelm

silverinvestor,

If your principle aim is to invest with capital growth intent, you’re barking up the wrong tree even considering buying from the Mint. This is a collector’s and not an investor’s bailiwick; keeping and enjoying your coins, not thinking about selling them at a (hopefully) profit, is the raison d’etre here.

Slypig

In & Out in less than one minute, very easy, got one & hope to get a signed COA

Kaiser Wilhelm

Slypig,

Good Job. You, for one, showed it can be done.

Dee

I managed to get one. I have never sent any coins out to be graded, but from reading blogs and the grading companies, you should send your box from the mint to them unopened, but this set you might get a signed CoA.  Should I open to check if I happened to get a signed one?? Appreciate any advice!

Rob S

If the grading co requires an unsealed box to verify it as from this set, you probably shouldnt open it.
I know PCGS allows the COA to be encapsulated … for like $20 more.
I had this done for my End of WWII Silver Eagle; I mistakenly thought it was numbered, but only the gold ones were. I didnt realize it until I got it back. oops.

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Peter Lowell Gordon

NGC also will encapsulate your certificate for $25. Do not open the mint box if you want the set designation.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob S,

I hope you figured out how to mount your expensively encapsulated COA on the wall of your “coin room.” 😉

Rooster

If you send it in within 30 days of sale you are good for first strike/early release designation. After 30 days you need the box sealed for that designation.

Rob S

I may be wrong, but I think thats the case for 1st Strike, etc.
I dont know if like PCGS has a diff coin number for these from the sets. If so, and someone wants THAT designation, they might need to send the set unsealed.
I asked once about a Ltd Ed Silver Proof Eagle, and was told to get it graded for that, it needed to be in the unsealed box (way too late for that in my case).

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Rooster

To get special designation that it is from the set this may indeed have to be sent in unsealed. Technically if opened how would they know if the coins were swapped.

Coinman

Guys,
The question is…………..if you send the set in for grading in the unopened box, how will you know if it came with the signed COA? I guess you have to trust the grading company. But can you?
What do you say o’ wise Kaiser?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Coinman, I don’t know about the “wise” part although on occasion I’ve been called a “wise guy”; is that sufficient equivalency? I am of two minds regarding the question at hand. Personally, I don’t have any of my coins, much less my COAs, graded and slabbed, so one position I would take is what’s the point of discussing the niceties of an unnecessary function. On the other hand, different strokes for different folks, so if having your coins graded and (in this case your COA also) encapsulated is what you like and want, then more power to you. That being… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Rooster,

Is it true that “the first strike is the deepest”? I just couldn’t help myself (with apologies to Cat Stevens).

Larry T

Dee,

Since both of these two coins in your designer set were produced and sold separately from the mint, if you want the set graded as “2021 AGE Designer Set” it MUST be unopened! Obviously because people could substitute coins that were previously sold. With that designation, you will probably
get a substantial premium vs just Proof AGE coins. Just look at the crazy premiums some put on ASE”S that come out of the Congratulation Sets! Hope this helps.

Rob S

Thats pretty much what I was thinking Larry T. Just not sure if they have a separate number (in PCGS, havent looked it up, but they probably do). Its also what I dont always get, feels very HSN-Mike to me … “my special core graphics in my exclusive holder from grading co XYZ”. Just that its from the mint this way. The type 2 .10oz (or any coin for that matter) is the same coin by itself or in this set, to me. And BTW – I feel EVERYONE who got this set ought to get the signed COA! Just… Read more »

Larry T

Rob, I agree. Personally, I see no real value difference in a SAE that comes out of a set (Congratulation Set for example) vs one that I buy as a SAE in it’s little box or in the Limited Edition Silver Proof Set. I think these ‘coin hawkers’ just keep coming up with ways to convince naive people that these are worth your money. As for the grading, I have 99% of my coins in OGP and like it like that. I do have some sets, the 2011 25th Anniversary Set, still in unopened boxes in case I ever want… Read more »

Rob S

Cool.
Yeah grading is SO expensive, I can see why so many forego it. I posted my reasons elsewhere why I jumped on it. It costs time AND $$$$.

I agree about MM. He does put on a show and I find myself watching him quite a bit (like a car crash or something, where nobody gets hurt). Say what you (I) will, I do learn some things as he is in the know about some things. He is a super coin geek (and hawker) after all.

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Larry T

Rob,

Mezack does know his products, no question about that. He always has coins to view before any of us get ours. And I do enjoy seeing some of the crazy looking coins that come from around the world. I wish he’d refrain from using the words ‘rare, rarer, and rarest’ though. That gets old fast! Lol

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob S,

I forego grading because I collect to save my coins, not to sell them.
Besides, every dollar I don’t spend on grading I can put toward the purchase of yet another coin.

Coinman

Larry you are 100% correct regarding the coin hawkers.
And you are even more correct regarding Mezack ” Not Enough Coins” and his BS. Just saying.

Peter Lowell Gordon

Rick Tomaska always used to say “buy the coin, not the slab”. All of the coin show sellers now hawk their “special” cores as being somehow better than the coin within. Wish NGC and PCGS had not gone along with them on the special cores for individual coin sellers.

Adam L

What I do is I go to the world fair of money, Long Beach coin expo or PSGS member only events and take the sealed box and have them open it in front of me. I did that with the 2019 ASE enhanced reverse proof and encapsulated the numbered COA and also for the basketball hall of Fame coins. Some had a chance at signed COA’s. None of mine had signatures but I had peace of mind knowing for sure and I saved money on shipping them in. Although I drove 700 miles to Las Vegas Nevada lol and I’m… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Adam L,

No special air fares available to get you to Chicago a heck of a lot faster? One might think that with every flight potentially featuring a mask-averse passenger riot event or possibly hosting a Covid-19 Delta Variant super-spreader hot spot the airlines would be rather hard-pressed to fill all the seats. But then perhaps not, as Captain Bone Spurs has clearly kept his millions of muddleheaded minions still eager to dive into the deep end of the Kool-Aid pool regardless. Orange what?

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Mark D.

As much as one might prefer it, it wouldn’t be fair to keep morons, malcontents and Caligulites off flights just because of their ignorant, arrogant, hateful and wholly rancid, “sarcasm.” Just kidding!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark D.,

Come to think of it, if all those salt of the swamp folks were banned from flying just where would we find all those similarly pathetic and equally bizarre airplane videos that we now appreciate as a must-have complement to the incredible “People of Wal-Mart” photographs that have become so very near and dear to our hearts.

Oh wait, yeah, at a MAGA rally, where else? Caligula at WAL-MART, with red hats on display everywhere proudly worn by whooping butt crack showing Bubbas and shrieking blue haired banshees, all with hearts just a-palpitatin’ for their overbearing Orange Overlord.

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Mark D.

You, sir, are the most delightful and precious Kaiser I’ve ever known. Sarcasm!

What think thee of the Rusk “share” links that are offered up on all our comments?

Kaiser Wilhelm

If I knew how to blush I would, but since I have no shame that response is not in my inventory. But thank you kindly all the same, Mark my friend. By the way, if you think I have a predilection for that sort of humor, you would really be impressed by the verbal proclivities of my dear sainted wife. She is so adept at said art that I have on occasion been known to liken her to one of our greatest natural treasures, to wit the Grand Canyon, as I quite some time ago was moved to christen her… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark,

I must confess we have in this particular instance chanced upon territory that I have no cognitive map for, as I seem to apprehend no familiarity whatsoever with the above described “Rusk ‘share’ links” whereof you spoketh. In plain English, Sir, I draweth a blank.

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Mark D.

1st of 3
Here’s a shot of the “share” icons that appear when one rolls over the “<” share link.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark re: 1 of 3,

When I roll over the share link I only get the o/x symbol and neither of the other two. I don’t know what to make of that.

Mark D.

2nd of 3
The highlighted icon for “VK.com” goes to Russian site. Enter “VK.com” into a search engine and tell me what you think.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark re: 2 of 3,

Googled VK.com; it’s a Russian social media site with the typical array of cute cat and dog antics and other sorts of sticky sweet content as the similar sites we have here. Nothing to write home about, that’s for sure.

Whoops. My mistake. The aforementioned VK.com is the site of apps for Uber and food delivery and such. It is the other link, the OK.ru, that is the social media site.

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Mark D.

Weirder and curiouser. Reminds me of that “RT America” Russian version of Guy Fawkes “news.” The missing Twitter icon (from your pov), along with omitted Instaglam, Phlegmbook, ReadLit and the rest, seems odd too.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark re: “Weirder and curiouser.” RT America is very clever in that they only employ native English (specifically American “broadcast English” style adept, that is) speakers to deliver their news, Axis Sally style; leave it to them to borrow a trick from the Nazis. If one didn’t spot the network credentials one would easily believe these alleged “news” aka propaganda programs to be originating from the likes of Chicago. Regarding the fact that your search icon reveals several other links beyond merely the one I have (visible) access to, that, at least for the moment, represents nothing less than a… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark re: Weirder and curiouser Part Deux,

Since this search icon is clearly embedded in the comment format, it is quite possible, if not even extremely likely and plausibly so, that the owners of these two clearly Russian sites are currently paying a fee to Coinnews to be allowed to have their links take up residence here. That’s actually a marvelous circumstance; neo-communists with a capitalist bent. I love it.

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Mark D.

A new take on the old “numbers station” network I suspect.

But bringing it all back to numismichology was a master stroke.

Do you hear that shrill whirring noise? Sounds like the pull start on an old lawn mower that just won’t turn over, sputtering “rrr,” “rrr,” like some, feckless mechanical voice rolling three r’s again and again.

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Mark D.

Images/steps, start below.
3rd of 3
The sideways “OK” icon goes to OK.ru. Enter in search engine, etc.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark re: 3 of 3,

OK.ru, a Russian social media site. Would it be excessively cruel to say that sounds like an oxymoron if I ever saw one.

Those poor folks over there have barely seen any personal daylight or had any civil breathing room between the time of Stalin and that of Putin. We may have a lot of things that could stand fixing here in our own country but I don’t ever imagine that I would be willing to trade places with anyone in Putinland.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mark re: 4 of 3,

Just a thought, but if our main problem with Comrade Putin stems from his ongoing anger management issues, what if we were to ship him his favorite Orange Lapdog and a contingent of resort staff from the Casa Floridiana; don’t you think that would be a good start to achieving peace in our time?

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Mark D.

A pathetic sludge match it would be.

The Bloody Russian vs. the Orange Crushin’.

Just think how many tens of thousands of individuals would flock to see such a spectacle.

Larry T

Mark, Some individuals just can’t get over the fact that tens of thousands of individuals would flock to see Donald J Trump at a rally, while at a dementia Joe ‘gathering’ all you find is a few so called reporters.Basically, those Trump Haters are simply envious of the man and his success they could only dream about! They see his wife and then look at theirs and say “Damn, why can’t that be me!” They are so pathetic and have no retort to his sound policies, so they instead resort to ridiculing his supporters. And they usually hide behind ‘avatars’… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Dee,

If you’ve never had any coins graded, why start now. Not everyone has to follow the pack.

Fred E

Sold out in like two minutes

Kaiser Wilhelm

Fred E,

First you can’t get it. Then it’s gone in a flash. The frustration we have all encountered.

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David T

Found out I would have been able to get the coins!! My credit card company sent me a fraud alert and I did not see it in time to tell them it was not fraud!!! Therefore rejected at the mint!!!!

Larry T

That sucks big time!

Kaiser Wilhelm

David T,

Talk about bad timing! Speaking of which, perhaps it’s time to have a rather serious chat with those maybe not so helpful folks at your credit card company. Just sayin’.

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Jake

I find it so funny people are mad at coin retailers, everytime lol

Carl Warren

I find it funny people are willing to pay a ridiculous premium just to have a slabbed/certified coin. Now that NGC has come out with an Advance Release designation, you can have a really special coin and/or set.

Jake

Yea thats just silly. I am not a fan of encapsulating any coin. I have one and I will never do that again. I see it as a good idea for a baseball card collection, but not a coin collection.

Rob S

I admit, after much deliberation, I jumped on the grading bandwagon; this is my 2nd year w/PCGS. Its very expensive and not for everybody for sure. But I’m with everyone regarding the stoopud granular special case false-rarity classifications. I call BS!! But to me selling a coin is rather like selling a used car … on the interwebs no less! A buyer may take the car to a mechanic and he/she says it has transmission problems, needs a new Johnson rod 😉 , and is leaking blinker fluid 😉 😉 . The seller says its in PRIMO condish. Whaddya do?… Read more »

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Daniel

I agree, roll them in your fingers, feel the warmth.
Here’s a video of me breaking the hearts of Australian coin collectors:
https://youtu.be/sGYpDwBGiY0

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Daniel,

Splendid, absolutely splendid. I loved it!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Jake, I agree with that 100%. The very notion of encapsulating is just another one of the countless thousands of money-making ideas for which our country, the wealthiest in the history of the world, is not just so very well known but actually famous (or notorious; take your pick) for. After all, one can only make so much money from fulfilling needs that already exist; all the additional profits above and beyond that have to be derived from creating wants, needs and “must haves” that were never there in the first place. And have we ever succeeded, surely even beyond… Read more »

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Peter Gordon

I was not an early believer in TPG coins until I bought a coin from a known dealer that turned out to have been cleaned. Yes, bought online, but the pictures of the coin did not show any evidence of being cleaned. Since I have never sold any of my coins, I guess it is not a big issue for other buyers, but my wouldn’t want my grandkids to have an issue after I am gone.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Peter G,

Couldn’t one take the position that such an occurrence could be just as much an advisory for being careful regarding who you choose to buy from as it is about whether or not coins should be graded?

Carl Warren

Peter,

Hope you didn’t pay a lot for that coin. I’m guessing you now only purchase certified coins online, which is some cases is prudent. Or do you have coins you purchase from the mint or already own certified?

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Carl,

I suppose the day might eventually come that I will have to purchase only certified coins from the U.S. Mint to be sure that what I am getting is exactly what I ordered. That will be the same day I buy a nice set of binoculars and take up backyard birdwatching instead.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Carl Warren,

The utterly bizarre new concept of “Advance Release” designations supersedes even the idea of ripping ASEs from Congratulations Sets and encapsulating same as having some sort of above and beyond “special value” as the newest ultimate joke on customers in the slabbing world. Was P.T Barnum ever right!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Jake,

I don’t think it is so much about the coin retailers as it is the flippers and re-sellers who provide the retailers with already very steeply marked-up numismatic merchandise.

Jake

Do the coin retailers get an equal opportunity at a signed COA or is that reserved for individual collectors with an account?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Jake,

When it comes to anything sold by the Mint, the only special privileges granted are for the Authorized Bulk Purchasers who always get 10% of the stock before the item comes up for public sale.

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Jake

I think the coin retailers should have special privilege they spend a lot of money, all at once compared to individual collectors and there is clearly a retail market for US coinage, the 10% allocation seems fair, it could be worse, let’s just be thankful it’s not 50% allocated to retailers

Kaiser Wilhelm

Jake,

That has all the hallmarks of circular reasoning. I believe a very good argument could be made that the reason many people are even given to buying from coin dealers at all is because they have been repeatedly shorted by the Mint regarding their own coin acquisition opportunities to begin with. The individual collector is thereby put at a serious competitive disadvantage from the get go thanks to the corresponding outweighing advantages derived by these same dealers from their being consistently favored by the Mint.

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Mike Petraitis

What gets me is that I was on line logged into my account when they went on sale.I also called the US mint on my phone to try to purchase one .I started calling in at 11:55 the recording said wait for the next available person thought for sure I would get a busy signal but did not.So I waited and waited then at 12:04 they answered my call and said they were sold out. Just seems funny they answered the phone after the coins were sold out.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mike P,

It might well be that the agents transition back to regular customer service business once a sale is over.

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Larry T

On eBay the Designer Set of 1/10th AGEs are selling fo between $1000 and $1250 a set! Glad I got one.

Deb

Most of my coin knowledge came from Rick Tomaska. I can’t listen to MM for very long.

Coinman

They are both hawkers, except one is refined and sophisticated while the other is a bag of hot air pitchman.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Coinman, I would say that they are in fact both “hot air pitchmen”, as you so very accurately put it. The principle difference is that Tomaska is able to pull off the pretense of being other than that, which only goes to show that he is a good deal more sophisticated in his approach to grifting, hornswoggling and generally all-around fooling the viewer. I believe that in the final analysis this means he is in effect a far more clever and therefore much better con artist than Mike “Sold Out Limited Edition” Mezack could ever hope to be. I hereby… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Deb,

As long as you don’t fall for his typical snake oil salesman approach and actually buy anything from him then you’ll be just fine absorbing whatever else you can.

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silverinvestor

warning: Gold is Hyper-overprice. from 1986 to now , the world had minted over 1 billion ounces of gold coins ! We hold it ,flip it and wait for price up , but what happen if everyone put out the coins for sale ? How much is real value of gold should be ?Hence, AGE( American Gold Eagle) have $50 face value. that mean our government believe it is only worth $50 per ounce . WWIII are already on . it is Human VS Virus .

Larry T

God, I hope your grammar is intentionally meant to humor us! If this is indeed how you express your thoughts, then I have to congratulate our wonderful education system (and the great teachers union) once again! You can thank all the liberal thinkers (some on this site) for this bliss. So Gold was selling for around $360/oz. in 1986 and now is over $1800/oz. Can you name anything that you bought in 1986 that you can buy cheaper today? New cars sold for around $10,000 in 86′ now they require you to take out a second mortgage. Houses, land, Rolex’s,… Read more »

Jake

Thank you LT. I agree.

Kenneth Guinta

LT, Amen. You are absolutely right. If we put things in prospective, the stock market was at $3894.00 in 1986. It is above 35000 now. That is about 9 times more. If you bought gold at $360 an ounce in 1986, times 9, gold should be worth $3240 an ounce. The mint is charging with their premium about $2700.00 an ounce. A little under valued considering it is gold that can’t be burnt like money, or printed like money, only melted and is still gold unlike money if it is burnt. This is a true story. In Lincoln high school… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Kenneth, That certainly is a lot of information to digest; consequently I’ve re-read your comment several times to be certain that I have understood it. Thank you for taking the time and effort to compile all those facts and figures. If I may, I would like to bring your attention to what I believe to be an overlooked factor in some of the dollar values employed in the various computations. This particular factor is one of inflation over the years. Adding the effects of subsequent inflation to the earlier dollar values as originally quoted, we arrive at the following changes… Read more »

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Kenny Guinta

Kaiser, There were exceptions in FDR’s bill for special collector coins and jewelry that were of much greater value then bullion gold. Also, the price of gold was established at $35.00 some time in 1934 or 1935. The story I told you was absolutely true, and a coin collector gave Bob $36.00 apiece for them. This story was all over the Cleveland papers when it happened and no one claimed the coins were stolen or lost probably for obvious reasons. The boys were allowed to sell the coins that were pretty rare. This happened in my neighborhood and is a… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Kenny, I feel terrible if I in any way seemed to imply I was questioning the veracity of the story. I merely found it very peculiar that such a transaction would occur in those days and actually be publicized, as I had wrongly assumed this to be an instance of strictly illegal commerce. However, as you have now so clearly explained, there were exceptions to the law that obviously allowed for such specifically numismatic coins to be bought and sold legally and therefore without hindrance by and among the public. I thought it was quite interesting, but ultimately rather sad,… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Dear Sir/Madam silverinvestor, Clearly there seems to be something rather disquietingly untoward afoot here with your, to say the least, very unusual and patently quirky presentation. However, I’m not at all convinced that even the matchlessly clever immortal Sherlock Holmes, with the always invaluable assistance of the highly estimable Dr. Watson, would be able to ascertain the name of the game at play here. What are we to think? Shall we imagine we have encountered a simple non-English speaker, a semi-functional illiterate, an accidental moron, a hopeless inebriate, a deliberate goof or an obsessive troll? Or for that matter, heaven… Read more »

Larry T

Has anyone received their 1/10th oz. Proof AGE Designer Set yet? I received confirmation my set has been shipped, but no DOD has been posted, as of now.

Kennygee

Mine shipped also Larry. My friend did receive a 1/10oz. gold type 2 and it looks really nice. I ordered a 4 piece set and got it at 12:05 PM. and they backordered it on me. Can’t figure that one out.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Kennygee, That happened to me recently with one of the 2021-W Type 2 ASEs. It was put on Backorder for over a week, and each time I enquired I got a different story as to why it hadn’t reached the Processing stage yet. Apparently the very first reason I had been given was the correct one, that it was still enroute from the Mint’s West Point production facility to the distribution center down South. Once it moved into the shipping process via the USPS in was here in no time. If your situation is at all similar to mine you… Read more »

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Kennygee

Kaiser, I sure hope your right. With the mint now a days, you can’t be sure until it is in your hands. Enjoy your set also.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Kennygee,

Thanks for your kind reply. You also made me realize something about ordering from the U.S. Mint, that it is in a sense more akin to a religious belief than a science in that it requires you to maintain faith in the process.

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usc2k

I received mine via USPS today. My order went through at 12:01 and I received a shipping notification the next day.

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usc2k

I received this set today and what surprised me most was that it was left in the mailbox and didn’t require a signature. I’ve ordered sets that were far less expensive that required the Postal worker to come to my door and get a signature. We have lots of mailbox bandits in the area and I’m glad I was off of work today and grabbed this out of the mailbox a few moments after my camera detected activity. Considering the price, it’s a little unnerving that this was just left in the box.

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Larry T

I was just wondering for those that received their 1/10th oz AGE Designer Set if anyone has gotten the COA signed by ‘His Highness?’

Dtown

Set 3422 here, no signed COA