US Mint Sales: 2025-W Proof Silver Eagle Tops 238,000

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2025-W Proof American Silver Eagle - Reverse
2025-W Proof American Silver Eagle (Reverse)

The United States Mint’s best-selling product for the week ending March 2 was the 2025-W Proof American Silver Eagle, which increased by 2,338 across its three production options, bringing the total to 238,057 coins.

Here’s the breakdown of its latest weekly gains by option:

  • Individual sales (product code 25EA): An additional 1,340 coins sold, bringing the total to 191,308 coins.
  • 40-coin bulk option (product code 25EA040): Another 600 coins sold, or 15 units, raising the total to 31,640 coins (791 units).
  • Congratulations Set (product code 25RF): An additional 398 coins sold, for a new total of 15,109 coins.

Elsewhere of note, eight products recorded weekly sales declines, compared to twelve in the previous report. Two stood out: the 2025 Benjamin Harrison Presidential Silver Medal (released Feb. 10) fell by 2,847 to 9,624, while the proof set of 2025 American Women quarter dollars (released Feb. 20) declined by 2,156 to 26,956.

U.S. Mint Top Sellers

Here is the roster of the U.S. Mint’s most sought-after numismatic products for the week ending on Mach 2:

  1. 2025-W Proof Silver Eagle (+1,340 to 191,308)
  2. 2024 Mint Set (+699 to 175,321)
  3. 2025-P Proof U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Silver Dollar (+591 to 24,824)
  4. 2025 Congratulations Set (+398 to 15,109)
  5. 2024-S Proof Silver Eagle (+296 to 120,792)
  6. 2025-W Proof American Platinum Eagle (+277 to 2,892)
  7. 2025-S Proof U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Half Dollar (+253 to 13,363)
  8. 2024 Silver Proof Set (+184 to 168,920)
  9. 2025-P Uncirculated U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Silver Dollar (+176 to 6,964)
  10. 2024 American Women Quarters Proof Set (+175 to 49,105)

In its latest report, the U.S. Mint published sales data for 531 numismatic products. The data revealed that 51 products outperformed their sales from the previous week, compared to 76 in the prior report. One product experienced a week-over-week increase of more than 1,000 units, the same as previously.

US Mint Sales: Numismatic Products

Below are tables showing the latest available sales for U.S. Mint numismatic products. The sales period covers from Feb. 24 to March 2. Products with an asterisk (*) are no longer available or had no reported sales.

2025 Commemorative Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2025-S Proof U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Half Dollar 13,110 13,363 253 1.93%
2025-S Uncirculated U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Half Dollar 5,118 5,224 106 2.07%
2025-P Proof U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Silver Dollar 24,233 24,824 591 2.44%
2025-P Uncirculated U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Silver Dollar 6,788 6,964 176 2.59%
2025-W Proof U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary $5 Gold Coin 1,268 1,285 17 1.34%
2025-W Uncirculated U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary $5 Gold Coin 905 911 6 0.66%
2025 U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Three-Coin Proof Set 4,099 4,204 105 2.56%

2024 Commemorative Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-S Proof Greatest Generation Half Dollar 18,663 18,663
2024-D Uncirculated Greatest Generation Half Dollar 8,435 8,435
2024-P Proof Greatest Generation Silver Dollar 34,236 34,235 -1 0.00%
2024-P Uncirculated Greatest Generation Silver Dollar 11,018 11,018
2024-W Proof Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin 1,558 1,558
2024-W Uncirculated Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin 1,374 1,374
2024 Greatest Generation Three-Coin Proof Set 4,690 4,689 -1 -0.02%
2024-S Proof Harriet Tubman Half Dollar 13,817 13,817
2024-D Uncirculated Harriet Tubman Half Dollar 6,964 6,964
2024-P Proof Harriet Tubman Silver Dollar 21,410 21,410
2024-P Uncirculated Harriet Tubman Silver Dollar 7,300 7,300
2024-W Proof Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin 1,659 1,659
2024-W Uncirculated Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin 1,291 1,291
2024 Harriet Tubman Three-Coin Proof Set 4,440 4,440

Morgan & Peace Silver Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-S Morgan & Peace Silver Dollar Reverse Proof Set 151,560 151,666 106 0.07%
2024-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar 171,017 171,127 110 0.06%
2024-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 304 304
2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar 154,631 154,723 92 0.06%
2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 304 304
2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar 163,336 163,407 71 0.04%
2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 316 316
2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar 155,712 155,756 44 0.03%
2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 309 309
2023-S Morgan & Peace Silver Dollar Reverse Proof Set 247,820 247,820
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar 362,017 362,068 51 0.01%
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 443 443
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar 327,189 327,223 34 0.01%
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 438 438
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar 260,527 260,527
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 330 330
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar 260,451 260,450 -1 0.00%
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 338 338

230th Anniversary Flowing Hair

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Flowing Hair Gold Coin 9,975 9,975
2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal (Includes 8,926 from Bulk Sales) 49,933 49,933

2024 Liberty & Britannia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-W Liberty & Britannia Gold Coin 5,549 5,549
2024-P Liberty & Britannia Silver Medal 33,232 33,232

Armed Forces Silver Medals

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
U.S. Army 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,988 9,988
U.S. Marine Corps 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,988 9,988
U.S. Navy 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,987 9,987
U.S. Coast Guard 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,955 9,955
U.S. Air Force 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,953 9,953
U.S. Army 1 Ounce Silver Medal 18,015 18,053 38 0.21%
U.S. Marine Corps 1 Ounce Silver Medal 21,849 21,873 24 0.11%
U.S. Navy 1 Ounce Silver Medal 23,665 23,697 32 0.14%
U.S. Coast Guard 1 Ounce Silver Medal 19,063 19,069 6 0.03%
U.S. Air Force 1 Ounce Silver Medal 22,654 22,686 32 0.14%

American Liberty Products

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 12,188 12,188
2023-P American Liberty Silver Medal 37,164 37,209 45 0.12%
2022-P American Liberty Silver Medal 74,414 74,414
2021-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 12,471 12,471
2019-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 24,609 24,609
2019-P American Liberty Silver Medal 44,928 44,928
2018-W $10 American Liberty Gold Coin 70,613 70,664 51 0.07%
2017 American Liberty Silver Four-Medal Set* 32,647 32,647
2017-S Enhanced Uncirculated Coin Set* 210,419 210,419
2017-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 49,698 49,698
2017-P Proof American Liberty Silver Medal* 55,187 55,187

Clad Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Proof Set 355,754 355,785 31 0.01%
2023 Proof Set* 369,233 369,233
2022 Proof Set* 400,001 400,001
2021 Proof Set* 512,866 512,866
2020 Proof Set* 464,730 464,730
2019 Proof Set* 601,364 601,364
2018 Proof Set* 517,081 517,081
2017 Proof Set* 568,678 568,678
2024 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 61,901 61,966 65 0.11%
2023 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 59,949 60,006 57 0.10%
2022 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 83,165 83,213 48 0.06%
2021 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 89,446 89,476 30 0.03%
2020 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 108,400 108,400
2019 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 149,885 149,885
2025 American Women Quarters Proof Set 29,112 26,956 -2,156 -7.41%
2024 American Women Quarters Proof Set 48,930 49,105 175 0.36%
2023 American Women Quarters Proof Set 59,034 59,133 99 0.17%
2022 American Women Quarters Proof Set* 42,821 42,821
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* 64,242 64,242
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set 84,697 84,697
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* 86,697 86,697

Silver Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Silver Proof Set 168,736 168,920 184 0.11%
2023 Silver Proof Set 196,880 196,926 46 0.02%
2022 Silver Proof Set* 249,370 249,369 -1 0.00%
2021 Silver Proof Set* 306,332 306,346 14 0.00%
2020 Silver Proof Set* 313,183 313,183
2019 Silver Proof Set* 415,382 415,382
2018 Silver Proof Set* 332,273 332,273
2018 Silver Reverse Proof Set* 199,116 199,116
2024 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 34,103 34,119 16 0.05%
2023 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 45,984 46,010 26 0.06%
2022 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 57,764 57,764
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 64,012 64,012
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 78,588 78,588
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 79,301 79,301
2025 Congratulations Gift Set 14,711 15,109 398 2.71%
2024 Congratulations Gift Set 26,350 26,390 40 0.15%
2023 Congratulations Gift Set 39,288 39,288
2022 Congratulations Gift Set 29,710 29,710
2021 Congratulations Gift Set* 39,997 39,997
2020 Congratulations Gift Set* 24,468 24,468
2019 Congratulations Gift Set* 31,638 31,638
2024 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 22,862 22,934 72 0.31%
2023 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 29,360 29,384 24 0.08%
2022 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* 49,730 49,731 1 0.00%
2021 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* 49,852 49,852
2020 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* 50,061 50,061

US Mint Uncirculated Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Uncirculated Mint Set 174,622 175,321 699 0.40%
2023 Uncirculated Mint Set 184,308 184,309 1 0.00%
2022 Uncirculated Mint Set* 249,964 249,964
2021 Uncirculated Mint Set 233,688 233,732 44 0.02%
2020 Uncirculated Mint Set* 211,787 211,787
2019 Uncirculated Mint Set* 346,117 346,117
2018 Uncirculated Mint Set* 257,536 257,536
2017 Uncirculated Mint Set* 286,813 286,813

Kids Coin Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2019 Youth Coin and Currency Set 24,888 24,888
2019 Explore and Discover Coin Set 45,608 45,621 13 0.03%
2019 Rocketship* 49,921 49,921
2014 Coin Discovery Set* 13,151 13,151

Ornaments

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Mighty Minters Ornament 3,417 3,418 1 0.03%
2024 U.S. Mint Ornament 4,980 4,980
2024 Rev. Dr. Pauli Murray Ornament 914 915 1 0.11%
2024 Patsy Takemoto Mink Ornament 952 953 1 0.11%
2024 Dr. Mary Edwards Walker Ornament 1,108 1,110 2 0.18%
2024 Celia Cruz Ornament 2,223 2,228 5 0.22%
2024 Zitkala-Ša Ornament 934 936 2 0.21%
2023 U.S. Mint Ornament 5,388 5,405 17 0.32%
2023 Mighty Minters Ornament 3,271 3,288 17 0.52%
2022 U.S. Mint Ornament 6,044 6,045 1 0.02%
2022 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,265 4,265
2023 Bessie Coleman Ornament 1,327 1,327
2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Ornament; 1,517 1,517
2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Ornament 1,864 1,866 2 0.11%
2023 Jovita Idar Ornament 1,331 1,331
2023 Maria Tallchief Ornament 1,564 1,566 2 0.13%
2022 Maya Angelou Ornament 3,508 3,511 3 0.09%
2022 Dr. Sally Ride Ornament 3,586 3,588 2 0.06%
2022 Wilma Mankiller Ornament 2,437 2,437
2022 Nina Otero-Warren Ornament 1,879 1,879
2022 Anna May Wong Ornament 3,355 3,355
2021 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,821 4,821
2021 U.S. Mint Ornament 7,971 7,972 1 0.01%
2020 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,589 4,589
2020 U.S. Mint Ornament 6,719 6,719
2019 Mighty Minters Ornament 7,105 7,105
2019 U.S. Mint Ornament 11,986 11,986

Proof & Reverse Proof Silver Eagles

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2025-W Proof Silver Eagle 189,968 191,308 1,340 0.71%
2025-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 776 791 15 1.93%
2024-S Proof Silver Eagle 120,496 120,792 296 0.25%
2024-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 915 915
2024-W Proof Silver Eagle 284,366 284,450 84 0.03%
2024-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 1,543 1,543
2023-S Proof Silver Eagle 182,880 182,905 25 0.01%
2023-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 743 743
2022-S Proof Silver Eagle 199,698 199,698
2022-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 2,925 2,925
2023-W Proof Silver Eagle 436,488 436,488
2023-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 2,118 2,118
2022-W Proof Silver Eagle 496,994 496,994
2022-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 4,171 4,171
2021 Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle Two-Coin Set* 124,916 124,916
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* 199,744 199,744
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 652 652
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* 300,097 300,097
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 2,142 2,142
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1* 299,898 299,898
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 686 686

Uncirculated Silver Eagles

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 93,620 93,682 62 0.07%
2023 139,818 139,839 21 0.02%
2022 173,254 173,286 32 0.02%
2022 Bulk 40 989 989
2021* 174,933 174,933
2021 Bulk 40* 324 324

2024 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 3,639 3,664 25 0.69%
1/2 oz 1,776 1,805 29 1.63%
1/4 oz 5,190 5,211 21 0.40%
1/10 oz 10,149 10,210 61 0.60%
4-Coin Set 4,738 4,750 12 0.25%

2023 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 6,478 6,478
1/2 oz 2,011 2,011
1/4 oz 4,493 4,493
1/10 oz 13,424 13,424
4-Coin Set 9,979 9,979

2022 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 5,913 5,913
1/2 oz 1,970 1,970
1/4 oz 4,464 4,464
1/10 oz 13,806 13,806
4-Coin Set 9,906 9,906

Uncirculated American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 2,805 2,809 4 0.14%
2023 6,538 6,541 3 0.05%
2022 8,900 8,900
2021* 9,063 9,063
2020* 6,284 6,284
2019* 5,851 5,851

Proof American Buffalo Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Proof Gold Buffalo 9,211 9,271 60 0.65%
2023 Proof Gold Buffalo 15,910 15,909 -1 -0.01%
2022 Proof Gold Buffalo 15,943 15,943
2021 Proof Gold Buffalo* 16,976 16,976
2020 Proof Gold Buffalo* 11,887 11,887
2019 Proof Gold Buffalo* 14,844 14,844

Barbara Bush First Spouse Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2020-W Proof 2,967 2,967
2020-W Uncirculated 1,969 1,969

Proof American Platinum Eagle

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2025 2,615 2,892 277 10.59%
2024 5,192 5,183 -9 -0.17%
2023 8,539 8,547 8 0.09%
2022 9,941 9,941
2021 9,884 9,884
2020 9,835 9,835
2019 11,268 11,268
2018 16,244 16,245 1 0.01%
2017* 8,890 8,890

American Palladium Eagle

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-W Proof 3,737 3,763 26 0.70%
2023-W Uncirculated 5,778 5,778
2022-W Reverse Proof 7,403 7,403
2021-W Proof 5,170 5,170
2020-W Uncirculated 9,746 9,746
2019-W Reverse Proof 18,839 18,839
2018-W Proof* 14,986 14,986

Presidential Silver Medals

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2025 Benjamin Harrison Presidential Silver Medal 12,471 9,624 -2,847 -22.83%
2024 Grover Cleveland Presidential Silver Medal 11,113 11,132 19 0.17%
2024 Chester A. Arthur Presidential Silver Medal 10,966 10,975 9 0.08%
2024 James A. Garfield Presidential Silver Medal 11,676 11,680 4 0.03%
2024 Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Silver Medal 11,850 11,858 8 0.07%
2023 Ulysses S. Grant Presidential Silver Medal 13,880 13,887 7 0.05%
2023 Andrew Johnson Presidential Silver Medal 12,755 12,756 1 0.01%
2023 Abraham Lincoln Presidential Silver Medal 19,872 19,888 16 0.08%
2023 James Buchanan Presidential Silver Medal 12,548 12,550 2 0.02%
2021 Franklin Pierce Presidential Silver Medal 12,766 12,770 4 0.03%
2022 Millard Fillmore Presidential Silver Medal 12,865 12,867 2 0.02%
2022 Zachary Taylor Presidential Silver Medal 13,266 13,270 4 0.03%
2022 James Knox Polk Presidential Silver Medal 13,512 13,517 5 0.04%
2021 John Tyler Presidential Silver Medal 13,889 13,894 5 0.04%
2021 William Henry Harrison Presidential Silver Medal 13,868 13,876 8 0.06%
2021 Martin Van Buren Presidential Silver Medal 13,999 14,006 7 0.05%
2020 Andrew Jackson Presidential Silver Medal 16,958 16,963 5 0.03%
2019 John Quincy Adams Presidential Silver Medal 15,067 15,072 5 0.03%
2019 James Monroe Presidential Silver Medal 15,535 15,541 6 0.04%
2019 James Madison Presidential Silver Medal 17,209 17,216 7 0.04%
2019 Thomas Jefferson Presidential Silver Medal 24,731 24,741 10 0.04%
2018 George Washington Presidential Silver Medal 36,102 36,112 10 0.03%
2018 John Adams Presidential Silver Medal 23,970 23,975 5 0.02%

American Innovation Reverse Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 33,202 33,262 60 0.18%
2023 40,380 40,414 34 0.08%
2022* 49,806 49,806
2021* 49,813 49,813

2025 American Innovation Dollars – Arkansas

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 6,590 6,630 40 0.61%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,092 6,120 28 0.46%
100-coin bag (P) 2,604 2,619 15 0.58%
100-coin bag (D) 1,657 1,680 23 1.39%

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Missouri

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,661 7,675 14 0.18%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,967 6,980 13 0.19%
100-coin bag (P) 3,146 3,146
100-coin bag (D) 2,151 2,159 8 0.37%

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Maine

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,102 8,110 8 0.10%
25-coin roll set (D) 7,259 7,270 11 0.15%
100-coin bag (P) 2,862 2,866 4 0.14%
100-coin bag (D) 2,190 2,192 2 0.09%

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Alabama

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,394 8,394
25-coin roll set (D) 7,443 7,443
100-coin bag (P) 3,149 3,149
100-coin bag (D) 2,950 2,950

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Illinois

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,302 8,302
25-coin roll set (D) 7,325 7,325
100-coin bag (P) 2,506 2,526 20 0.80%
100-coin bag (D) 2,511 2,528 17 0.68%

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Mississippi

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,953 7,953
25-coin roll set (D) 6,887 6,887
100-coin bag (P) 2,489 2,496 7 0.28%
100-coin bag (D) 2,469 2,470 1 0.04%

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Indiana

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,022 8,022
25-coin roll set (D) 6,994 6,994
100-coin bag (P) 3,013 3,013
100-coin bag (D) 2,798 2,798

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Louisiana

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,993 7,993
25-coin roll set (D) 6,990 6,990
100-coin bag (P) 2,978 2,978
100-coin bag (D) 2,760 2,760

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Ohio

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,016 8,016
25-coin roll set (D) 6,978 6,978
100-coin bag (P) 2,972 2,972
100-coin bag (D) 2,747 2,747

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Tennessee

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,014 7,014
25-coin roll set (D) 7,010 7,010
100-coin bag (P) 2,786 2,786
100-coin bag (D) 2,786 2,786

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Kentucky

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,009 7,009
25-coin roll set (D) 7,002 7,002
100-coin bag (P) 2,771 2,771
100-coin bag (D) 2,779 2,779

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Vermont

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,023 7,023
25-coin roll set (D) 7,011 7,011
100-coin bag (P) 2,787 2,787
100-coin bag (D) 2,779 2,779

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Rhode Island

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,010 7,010
25-coin roll set (D) 7,007 7,007
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,787 2,787

2021 American Innovation Dollars – North Carolina

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,010 7,010
25-coin roll set (D) 7,018 7,018
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,790 2,790

2021 American Innovation Dollars – New York

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,006 7,006
25-coin roll set (D) 7,013 7,013
100-coin bag (P) 2,786 2,786
100-coin bag (D) 2,785 2,785

2021 American Innovation Dollars – Virginia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,015 7,015
25-coin roll set (D) 7,010 7,010
100-coin bag (P) 2,796 2,796
100-coin bag (D) 2,786 2,786

2021 American Innovation Dollars – New Hampshire

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,017 7,017
25-coin roll set (D) 7,017 7,017
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,790 2,790

2020 American Innovation Dollars – South Carolina

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 43,659 43,673 14 0.03%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,378 6,378
25-coin roll set (D) 6,399 6,399
100-coin bag (P) 2,734 2,734
100-coin bag (D) 2,378 2,378

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Maryland

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 49,852 49,852
25-coin roll set (P) 6,493 6,493
25-coin roll set (D) 6,471 6,471
100-coin bag (P) 2,725 2,725
100-coin bag (D) 2,737 2,737

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Massachusetts

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 49,785 49,785
25-coin roll set (P) 6,486 6,486
25-coin roll set (D) 6,481 6,481
100-coin bag (P) 2,746 2,746
100-coin bag (D) 2,744 2,744

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Connecticut

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 47,775 47,783 8 0.02%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,496 6,496
25-coin roll set (D) 6,425 6,425
100-coin bag (P) 2,736 2,736
100-coin bag (D) 2,747 2,747

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Georgia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 48,048 48,054 6 0.01%
25-coin roll set (P) 8,094 8,094
25-coin roll set (D) 7,542 7,542
100-coin bag (P) 3,459 3,459
100-coin bag (D) 3,737 3,749 12 0.32%

2019 American Innovation Dollars – New Jersey

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 52,821 52,833 12 0.02%
25-coin roll set (P) 9,103 9,103
25-coin roll set (D) 8,043 8,043
100-coin bag (P) 3,941 3,941
100-coin bag (D) 3,586 3,586

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Pennsylvania

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 56,291 56,298 7 0.01%
25-coin roll set (P) 10,458 10,458
25-coin roll set (D) 8,536 8,536
100-coin bag (P) 3,689 3,689
100-coin bag (D) 3,055 3,055

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Delaware

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 71,632 71,644 12 0.02%
25-coin roll set (P) 9,112 9,112
25-coin roll set (D) 8,372 8,372
100-coin bag (P) 3,203 3,203
100-coin bag (D) 3,385 3,385

2018 American Innovation Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S)* 74,720 74,720
Proof Coin (S) 255,441 255,441
25-coin roll set (P) 22,902 22,902
25-coin roll set (D) 25,725 25,725
100-coin bag (P)* 2,935 2,935
100-coin bag (D)* 2,954 2,954

George H.W. Bush Coin & Chronicles Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
$1 Coin & Set 11,521 11,521

2020 Bush Presidential $1 Coin & First Spouse Medal Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
$1 Coin & Set 9,876 9,876

2020 George H.W. Bush Presidential $1 Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll (P) 24,926 24,926
25-coin roll (D) 24,849 24,849
100-coin bag (P) 2,695 2,695
100-coin bag (D) 2,098 2,098
250-coin bag (P) 4,669 4,676 7 0.15%
250-coin bag (D) 5,878 5,887 9 0.15%

Native American Dollar Rolls

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2025-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 8,941 9,046 105 1.17%
2025-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 8,820 8,891 71 0.80%
2025-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 973 998 25 2.57%
2025-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,042 1,129 87 8.35%
2025-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 564 606 42 7.45%
2025-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 591 610 19 3.21%
2024-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 14,670 14,671 1 0.01%
2024-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 14,646 14,646
2024-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,746 1,746
2024-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,795 1,795
2024-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,784 1,784
2024-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,692 1,692
2023-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,922 13,922
2023-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,954 13,954
2023-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,695 1,695
2023-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,694 1,694
2023-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,698 1,698
2023-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,618 1,618
2022-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,996 13,996
2022-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,965 13,965
2022-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,699 1,699
2022-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,614 1,614
2022-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,698 1,698
2022-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,699 1,699

Kennedy Half Dollar Rolls

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 9,227 9,340 113 1.22%
2024-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 26,261 26,261
2023-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 11,168 11,168
2023-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 24,987 24,987
2022-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 10,999 10,999
2022-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 21,926 21,926
2021-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 9,976 9,976
2021-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 21,989 21,989
2020-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 11,776 11,776
2020-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 24,312 24,312
2019-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 11,534 11,534
2019-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 24,132 24,132

2025 Ida B. Wells Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 9,381 9,449 68 0.72%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,673 1,702 29 1.73%
100-Coin Bag (D) 977 1,000 23 2.35%
Two-Roll Set 2,059 2,088 29 1.41%

2024 Zitkala-Ša Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 10,399 10,412 13 0.13%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,424 1,429 5 0.35%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,249 1,251 2 0.16%
Two-Roll Set 2,323 2,332 9 0.39%

2024 Celia Cruz Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 13,440 13,456 16 0.12%
100-Coin Bag (P) 4,065 4,071 6 0.15%
100-Coin Bag (D) 2,482 2,490 8 0.32%
Two-Roll Set 5,899 5,913 14 0.24%

2024 Dr. Mary Edwards Walker Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 10,963 10,971 8 0.07%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,552 1,557 5 0.32%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,228 1,230 2 0.16%
Two-Roll Set 2,568 2,571 3 0.12%

2024 Patsy Takemoto Mink Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 11,580 11,591 11 0.09%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,644 1,646 2 0.12%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,341 1,341
Two-Roll Set 2,814 2,816 2 0.07%

2024 Rev. Dr. Pauli Murray Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,399 12,404 5 0.04%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,958 1,960 2 0.10%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,562 1,566 4 0.26%
Two-Roll Set 3,061 3,063 2 0.07%

2023 Maria Tallchief Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,564 12,564
100-Coin Bag (P) 2,133 2,137 4 0.19%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,821 1,825 4 0.22%
Two-Roll Set 3,743 3,749 6 0.16%

2023 Jovita Idar Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,598 12,598
100-Coin Bag (P) 4,124 4,127 3 0.07%
100-Coin Bag (D) 3,685 3,687 2 0.05%
Two-Roll Set 4,085 4,093 8 0.20%

2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,678 12,678
100-Coin Bag (P) 4,387 4,389 2 0.05%
100-Coin Bag (D) 4,026 4,028 2 0.05%
Two-Roll Set 4,684 4,689 5 0.11%

2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,585 12,585
100-Coin Bag (P) 7,452 7,455 3 0.04%
100-Coin Bag (D) 4,635 4,636 1 0.02%
Two-Roll Set 5,930 5,932 2 0.03%

2023 Bessie Coleman Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,509 12,509
100-Coin Bag (P) 5,739 5,744 5 0.09%
100-Coin Bag (D) 5,010 5,013 3 0.06%
Two-Roll Set 6,135 6,142 7 0.11%

2022 Anna May Wong Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,617 7,617
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,860 1,860
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,858 1,858
Two-Roll Set 5,936 5,936

2022 Nina Otero-Warren Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,639 7,639
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,856 1,856
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,858 1,858
Two-Roll Set 5,890 5,890

2022 Wilma Mankiller Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,616 7,616
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,859 1,859
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,833 1,833
Two-Roll Set 5,918 5,918

2022 Dr. Sally Ride Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,603 7,603
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,854 1,854
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,852 1,852
Two-Roll Set 5,926 5,926

2022 Maya Angelou Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,588 7,588
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,858 1,858
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,861 1,861
Two-Roll Set 5,940 5,940

*First-day sales, as provided by the Mint, since prior week sales were unavailable.

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CaliSkier

Wowsers, a -7.41% and -22.83% return on the 2025 AWQ Clad Proof Set and 2025 Benjamin Harrison Presidential Silver Medal, which is pretty sizable IMO. That’s $57,134 worth of AWQ Sets and $256,230 worth of Benjamin Harris Silver Medals returned!

Kaiser Wilhelm

CaliSkier,

I won’t even pretend to know how much current circumstances specifically influence coin sales, but I do know that while inflation is still with us, now we have a faltering stock market to contend with also. This simply couldn’t be good for the sales of anything.

Craig

Kaiser,

I bought my 2nd instalment of very expensive windows, which are being installed as I type. Not everything is doom and gloom in America. As for the mints expensive clad coins, I’ll pass on them.

Last edited 8 days ago by Craig
Rick

Craig,
Doom & Gloom is a state of mind, and a chosen one at that.
Business is on the slower side for me lately, but for the last couple of months I’ve never been more giddy and positive within my state of mind and outlooks. Go figure. I’ve already offered my advice on knee-jerk reactions to the markets, whether your looking at PM’s, Indices, jobs, or the futile attempts to parse Chairman Powell’s every word lol.

Rick

PS: Craig,
You sure you don’t want a 2025 Clad Proof Set?
There’s over 200k sets left in inventory–hurry!
The guys that were saying that the entire mintage limit of 420,002 sets had all been packaged & counted, and would sell out within hours, had dropped the ball? Well then again, instead of being on first or third base like they want to be, they’re way out in Left Field, as usual…

Kaiser Wilhelm

Hey, Craig old buddy, no knocking left field here; I played that position with boundless enthusiasm in my younger years! I however soon realized I enjoyed being the center on a football team even more because you really got to throw your weight around. From that type of energetic physical entertainment it was a rather natural progression to being a shot putter on the track teams in high school and college. I’ve always loved sports, but more so the playing of them than being a mere “bystander”. Interesting and fun factoid: in 2014 my former track coach from Heidelberg American… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Correction: Clearly my “Left Field” response was for Rick, not Craig. I guess my typing can get ahead of my thinking at times.

Craig

Kaiser,

I just was perusing the comments today and have to say I was a bit confused by your reply. Glad you clarified it..LOL.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Sorry about the confusion I caused you, Craig. Sometimes I get distracted by bright and shiny things and thereby happen to lose track of what’s actually what and this was most definitely one of those cases. Believe me, I was at least a s happy as you are that I managed to catch the error before it became etched in mistaken history!

John Q. Coinage

Whenever we think we have a deal from the Mint you get screwed in the long run. And a real deal you get screwed in 3.5minutes…..

FHG

Kaiser Wilhelm

3.5 minutes is sure to leave somebody very disappointed. 😉

Kaiser Wilhelm

Once again, one man’s ceiling is another man’s floor. I received my 2025 Proof Set today and it’s absolutely gorgeous. By the way, I really like the way the shipping boxes now open up at the top instead of having to be pried open at the end; somebody at the Mint finally manged to put his head together! 😉

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rick, while we are certainly all extremely fortunate to have this wonderful nation to call our own it doesn’t take much of a stretch of the imagination to fully be aware that not everyone legally in residence here has anywhere near the identical access – and this personal state being the situation for a likely untold number of reasons – to the bounty of our great country’s totality of massive economic resources as so many of the other people do. Nonetheless, I have no problem sincerely congratulating you on being among the more well endowed (hey, watch where your mind… Read more »

Rick

Nothing special here for this legal resident of the greatest Nation on Earth, no well endowed wallet either, nosirree.
I’m just a middle class, uneducated construction worker who drives a 25 year old truck, who happens to collect a few coins on the side. Some think I’m a trailer trash deplorable, and others don’t. Either way, I take the utmost delight in my position!✓

Kaiser Wilhelm

Oops, I plum forgot; it was Craig with the very expensive windows, and now I can even be more gratified knowing you are happy with your 25 year old truck. Either way and anywho, it’s nice to be content with the life we’ve been given, so carry on, Corrigan. 🙂

E 1

Rick,

True happiness can only be found in the middle. That is where you will find me.

E 1

But, sometimes I will hang out in the cheap seats though.

Cheers

Kaiser Wilhelm

Nothing wrong with the cheap seats, E 1. I would wager that at least as many good people sit there as in the fancy ones.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

It is rather remarkable that you should make mention of that here today, E 1, as I had just raised that very thought in a discussion with my wife last night. One would think I ought to be better able to keep that particular bit of wisdom in mind more steadily than I often manage to anyway considering all of the Buddhism-inclined concepts I had been made rather familiar with in the fifty-plus years I corresponded with a friend from the Class of ’65 at Heidelberg American High School in (then) West Germany after he returned to Laguna Beach and… Read more »

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E 1

Kaiser,

If you posted just a couple of times a day, or just a couple of times a week, we would love you more. From above, stay in the middle and never let go. I spent five years working as an ex-pat in Thailand, so I get you.

Sincerely and Kop Koon Kup Kun Nong

Kaiser Wilhelm

Sorry, I don’t recall asking for your opinion.

Kaiser Wilhelm

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Get-thee-behind-me-Satan
Rick

That’s because you’re a well centered, well adjusted, reasonable person who doesn’t hate…..

Kaiser Wilhelm

Say what?

Kaiser Wilhelm

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Oy-vey
Kaiser Wilhelm

“…I’ve never been more giddy…”

I forgot to ask, Rick, are you absolutely sure you didn’t munch on some high grade “edibles” by mistake?

Kaiser Wilhelm

In the interests of full disclosure, I have had zero experience with any sort of edibles, smokables or drinkables for 37 years now, so I can’t speak to what any of these substances may do to alter our perceptions in these far more modern times. Amen.

Rick

Well, take the plunge, dig deep into your consciousness.
It may surprise you…

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John Q. Coinage

Always surprised Trump promoting Musk, uses him, very anti Booze suspect weed as well…. Was Elon smoking or clouding? Now they need to REHIRE CDC folk they canned, pesky Measles…. RFK Jr. advises take more vitamins, wtf

Rick

Musk was shootin’ the chit with Rogan.
Wide range of discussion. Joe, Elon, Trump, and RFK Jr had all belonged to a certain Party not that long ago…

https://youtu.be/UXh13J2LlXs?si=1Jf7hkiqzZr4dyYe

Kaiser Wilhelm

John Q. Coinage,

The Casa Blanca is now the House of Musk and Makeup. Only the Shadow knows what additional quirks will be birthed there.

Kaiser Wilhelm

No surprises here, John Q. Coinage. Since the Cabinet is chock full of quirky individuals the results will follow naturally.

E 1

No “Federal Government Clearence” for him.

Rick

He didn’t inhale, same with Willie and Monica…
So, for those that don’t take it all in, so to speak, get the Oval Office hall pass every time..
Everyone say Cheeze…

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Last edited 7 days ago by Rick
Kaiser Wilhelm

It’s easier to travel into a realm of days gone by…

Smoke-that-joint
Kaiser Wilhelm

By the way, Rick, while I agree with you that doom and gloom is a state of mind, it’s not necessarily an elective one. Think of people with terminal illnesses; I don’t believe they asked for what comes with those. From the “two sides of every coin” department, I suppose.

Last edited 8 days ago by Kaiser Wilhelm
Rick

I think I’ve become lost in a maze of counter-comments, and now I can’t decide which comment I should counter with–whew!?
I’ll leave it at this. It’s all about one’s elective attitude when it comes to one’s path in life…

Kaiser Wilhelm

A maze, a black hole, a singularity, an alternate universe…the endlessly mysterious possibilities of where you, I, or for that matter anyone else might in fact find themselves at any given point in time and space are literally endless. What we do know is that fourteen billion years passed prior to our birth and many more than that are likely to occur after we are gone, not just individually but as a species. To put it mildly, we don’t have all that much time here and that makes every single moment all that much more vital and precious. Swing low,… Read more »

Rick

Will do Professor.

Kaiser Wilhelm

If only. The one degree I’ve ever gotten was the third degree.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Question: Does Tim McGraw write his own songs? If so, that’s very cool indeed; if not, that’s okay too. No single flavor required.

E 1

✔️ Sometimes a song can say it better.

Kaiser Wilhelm

But then there’s “It’s the singer, not the song.”

Kaiser Wilhelm

P.S. I’m still waiting for the Royal Mint of Canada to release the first three-sided coin.

sharks2th

Haven’t they been doing that all along with regular coins? A circular coin has 3 sides – obverse, reverse, edge. They have just chosen not to use the 3rd side for text or art very often. If you look at a lot of the odd shaped coins you get quite a few sides to work with. A spherical coin would be the only one with one continuous side. A mobius strip coin, a half sphere coin or a cone shaped coin with a flat base would be the only true 2 sided coins (unless someone else can think of another… Read more »

John Q. Coinage

I use it to bet on 3D chess….

E 1

I want to play Watson.

REB

The Mint needs to up its game. Maybe the DC Comics “coins” need to be “3D”.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Holographic, perhaps.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Only one…the Federation’s.

Kaiser Wilhelm

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Enterprise
Kaiser Wilhelm

“To go where no Canadian coin has ever gone before”

Kaiser Wilhelm

That was meant to say “only one side“.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Some really eye-opening and mind-expanding revelations there, sharks2th; several of those hadn’t ever occurred to me, so thanks. The idea of mobius strip coins is awesome; I’ll happily take a 2225 Quantum Entangled Set of Proof Sets of those!

Kaiser Wilhelm

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig, I’ll go you one better and contend that even on what we might consider a not so good day in this awesome country of ours we’re still doing a heck of a lot better than most of the other people on earth on the very best day they could ever hope to imagine. You’ll get no gloom and doom from me, nosirree. In fact, while I clearly may not have expressed my point as well as I would perhaps have liked to, I never meant to imply anything else than the fact that since we ordinarily and customarily fly… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig,

Do you get your very expensive windows from Anderson or from Microsoft?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Forget it…that’s really none of my business. 😉

Kaiser Wilhelm

I had a further thought about the clad coins, Craig. I suppose they might be “expensive” in the sense that they possess very little intrinsic value as far as the metals they are made of, but on the other hand that only matters if one has the intent to sell, i.e. to make money off them. For collectors like me who have no such sale or profit motive in mind it’s more important to save money on the front end, which is to say the initial outlay for the coins as such. I see no gain to be had by… Read more »

Craig

Kaiser,

I’m just glad I bought sets of the silver proof sets several years ago. I’m like you, I’ll never sell them, but like to acquire coins that I feel are priced fairly. Reminds me in 2010 I bought 10 extra sets of the 2009 DC/Terr Quarters Silver Proof set for just $299.50. That’s $29.95 per set and it contained 6 quarters! What are the current silver quarter sets selling for..$95.00 and they contain 5 quarters. Sometimes you get lucky and find a diamond in the rough. Cheers

Antonio

Like the 2022 W uncirculated, proof and reverse proof quarters we never got.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Well yes, Antonio, there have been coins promised by the Mint that ended up never even seeing the light of day, and I would guess the incident back then may not be the only time that will happen.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig,

We are of similar mind in this particular coin collecting territory. When the Mint announced that they would be taking a hiatus from producing the 2020 Silver Proof Set due to the fallout from COVID-19, primarily in the form of the Big Lockdown, I bought five of those Sets thinking that there weren’t likely going to be any more of them produced that year. As it turned out production did resume several months later but to this day I don’t all regret haven’t stocked up on those extra Sets. It’s all good.

CaliSkier

BTW, the American Eagle 2024 One Ounce Palladium Proof Coin is now priced $50 dollars lower, at $1,495 vs the $1,850 price that the US Mint current “Pricing Range Table”, says it should be priced. The $595 premium that’s normally reserved for the APtE is kind of tempting compared to the price or premium of $950, that is usually associated with the APdE’s. BTW, the inaugural 2018 Proof American Palladium Eagle sold for $1,387.50 directly from the US mint and sold 14,782 within just minutes of sales opening with a HHL of 1 per household. The unavailable status was achieved… Read more »

John Q. Coinage

I noticed the further drop, getting tempting….
Even closing in onthe non obtainable APdE bullion Ed!

CaliSkier

Or John Q there is this situation? Heck, for that price, you could do a mix-n-match, consisting of one 1oz PF APdE($1,495) and one 1oz PF APtE($1,545) for a total of $760 less than one 1oz PF AGE! Or buy two 1oz APdE’s for $810 less than one 1oz PF AGE! OR on that last deal I worked up, why not throw in another $40 on top of the $810 lower price and pick up a couple of 1/10th ounce($425/ea) AGE’s for a little icing on the cake! Just saying…

Kaiser Wilhelm

CaliSkier and John Q. Coinage,

I do believe you guys are making me positively dizzy with your talk of the various and assorted combos of possible purchase deals you could make. Yowza.

John Q. Coinage

I like the double play Pt to Pd, I can’t drive myself to pay +$400 for a 10th Z AEAuProof, I remember well getting the all,day long from an old LCS for &$60!
I prefer the Pd design, or I have my eyes on a 1907 $2 1/2 MS67 about $2,500…. Supposed to be good year for Pt

Rick

$2500 for 4 grams o’gold in the $2-1/2 Lol. $60 gold coin days are gone!
But I get it, there’s not many $2-1/2’s in those grades at all…

My 66+ cost $1900, ⇊ , but that was a year ago to the week. Spot was cheeepper then. Good luck on the pre-33 delight!….

1907-66
Last edited 8 days ago by Rick
John Q. Coinage

Nice Rick, I am looking at a 07 ,67, not much nicer than that. I passed on several with spots, some even have some ticks, how can that =67?
pricey and there are a lot not a ton of 07s, resale might be difficult for $ for awhile, but they are scarce…. I should have got more 67 Morgan’s In the day

CaliSkier

Wow, what some will pay and the premium for an OGH/Old Green Holder. The PCGS approximate value is $1,800 on a “1909-S Lincoln Cent V.D.B. PCGS MS-65 RD” and this coin is already at $4,950 or $5,568.75 with buyers fees with 2 days, 17 hrs left to bid. A nice coin to be sure, however this high value is due to the OGH, unless I’m missing something? Perhaps, maybe some believe that the grading was slightly tougher, back in the day and the coin would or should grade MS66 RD vs MS65 RD? The coin is valued at $4,000 in… Read more »

REB

So Cali, let me get this straight. They’re paying extra for the HOLDER? The coin could be identical in every way but if it’s in the right holder, then extra $$$$?

Why bother counterfeiting the coin? Counterfeit the holder. That appears to be where the cash is.

Rick

I’ll jump in and break with Cali’s opinion here, An MS-65 is valued at 8k on the website, so maybe there’s a typo involved with that. I don’t see the coin selling for more than 8k, unless there is the potential for an upgrade if re-submitted, and/or a bid war, and that’s the chance one has to take. The coin was most likely already evaluated/sent in for an upgrade in the past? And you can be sure that CAC stickering has already been considered here, and possibly rejected. The OGH is 3rd Gen at 35 years old. Yes it’s classic… Read more »

CaliSkier

Thanks Rick for the correction. I made a mistake toggling across tabs on the PCGS site and ended up using/quoting prices from the “1909-S 1C Lincoln, RD”’ vs the “1909-S VDB 1C, RD” tab. What a difference three little letter$(vdb) can make. Also, why when shopping on line, to make sure you know what you’re looking at, as well as what the given listing actually says, DOH! So the pricing(PCGS) respectively for the 1909 S VDB Cent RD vs 1909 S Cent RD are as follows: MS65 $8,000 vs $1,800, MS65+ $9,250 vs $2,750, MS66 $17,500 vs $4,000, MS66+ $35,000… Read more »

CaliSkier

Yes Reb, the OLD Green Holders(OGH) by PCGS, as well as some other vintage holdered coins by PCGS(“Soap Box”), NGC and others, do indeed often bring a premium over the slabbed coins contained in newer holders. An article from CoinWeek, by David Schwager from January 18, 2018, titled: “Buy the Holder, Not the Coin – 10 Certification Slabs to Look For”, can be sourced and read for info on the subject. I’d tried to post a link to the titled CoinWeek article, however it got hung up , waiting approval. This was written 7 years ago, so depending on the… Read more »

Rich

Thanks for the reference CoinWeek article – nice to see the PCGS Regency holder at #2 on the list; and by Honorable Mention, The 1992 – 1996 Regency Holder in the PCGS Museum of Coin Holders.

CaliSkier

Talk about “Slab-O-Rama”! Buy the slab and not the coin! Here, is what some may find to be an interesting thread on “Collectors Universe”, of one collectors pursuits of collecting obscure, lesser and more than unlikely unknown slabs. Title or topic of thread: “Yup, I bought the holders – Part 2. I blame you guys (and so does my wife)!” vs Coin Week’s “Buy the Holder, Not the Coin – 10 Certification Slabs to Look For”.’(CW’s linked article does show up in the comments) Great pictures, documentation, comments and links to where one can find, see, buy or research these… Read more »

CaliSkier

Lastly for those curious, interested or intrigued by the value, that can be placed on some holders, due to their rarity and or historical significance. Another, interesting instance of buying the holder and the coin. a Coin World article regarding PCGS Regency Holders titled: “Market Analysis: Buying the holder and the coin”, states the below. “This big holder was an option to highlight important coins, and approximately 700 of the slabs were produced from 1992 to 1996, according to Legend, of which perhaps 100 or so remain today. To put its price in context, typical lower-end Mint State representatives of… Read more »

John Q. Coinage

Those were crazy almost psychedelic slabs

Rich

Cali, PCGS estimates that roughly half of the approximately 700 coins that were put into Regency Holders were Israeli coins from the Danny Kaye collection. I still own a Regency Holder Israeli specimen coin from Danny Kaye.

Kaiser Wilhelm

What a consummate all-around performer he was, Rich. The man could act, dance and sing to beat the band. Anyone who hasn’t seen the movie White Christmas should absolutely do so to see this talent in all his bravura glory; simply amazing!

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Cali I have several 1st G rattlers PCGS, some appear under graded I think they were tougher back then and even 5 years ago, since going private they seem looser…..still going t9 try CAC.

Rick

The 1st G rattlers are prized by some collectors. The $1 Morgans get snatched up quick, and when undergraded like the coin below, then CAC Gold beaned = Moon Money.
I bought a few, then bailed a few mos ago. CAC Gold is nuts …

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Whenever one believes all the particulars regarding how to determine the value of a coin have finally been covered something new and improved(?) seems to pop up, maybe not out of nowhere but for all practical purposes very close to that. C’est la vie.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Some folks are not just paying more for the holder than the coin, REB, they are actually paying many multiples more for the holder than they are for the coin inside!

Tony@GA

I inadvertently left a subscription for “1” clad proof set –

It arrived in the cardboard box and not the flimsy white plastic envelope.

That makes me happy! Better protection!!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Congrats, Tony@GA; everyone needs a win at least once in a while!

Tony@GA

Okay – let the nerding begin!

Received a VFW envelope in the mail wanting donations that had 4 Jefferson Nickels in it so, of course, I opened the envelope and retrieved them.

What struck me was their condition – all flawless, no scratches at all on 3 of them – all were 2023 D full steps – if they grade they are worth $12-15 bucks

REB

Looks like your donation due is $36.05 to $45.05, Tony. On behalf of the VFW, I thank you.

John Q. Coinage

I will give more when I get 2024 Jeff$

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Waiting for the Eagle to………….Moe Money for Coins!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

A better bet for your money than a Constipated Condor!

CaliSkier

Here is another stunning example of a PCGS “Regency” holder, being a major factor in this coin going for well over and above top dollar. Here’s a link to another Coin World piece by Steve Roach, titled: “Market Analysis: Found in a big, green PCGS holder”. (April 12, 2022) Excerpt and link below. “The oversized PCGS Regency Holder was an option from 1992 to 1996 and perhaps 700 were sold. This 1887/6 Morgan dollar graded MS-63 sold for $4,800 on March 7, more than five times what similar ones sell for in more typical slabs. The curve of the 6… Read more »

CaliSkier

BTW there are currently two BIN exact same coins, exact same holder(as above noted 1887/6 Morgan dollars), each a grade lower in MS62 on EBay, listed for $8,799.99 and the other for $8,899.99! Unless I’m looking at the wrong coin on PCGS again, a MS62 of the 1887/6 Morgan dollar should be around $775. So in this case the seller has priced his coins over 11X what the coins should sell for approximately, if in a new modern holder. PS You can check them out on EBay using “1887 1887/6 P Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS62 Super Rare GREEN REGENCY… Read more »

HarryB

Cali: I have asked a similar question on coin blogs for 15 years, why are some coins on Ebay listed for 10-20 times actual value, no chance of selling…..I have tried to correlate value of items offered on eBay to business cycles like annual tax filings, end of year statements, etc…nothing direct relationship. I have concluded most such listings are sellers trying to claim high net worth or simply convincing themselves of such.

Kaiser Wilhelm

HarryB and CaliSkier,

Perhaps these extravagantly priced coins on Ebay and the similar but many, many more times overpriced examples of same on Etsy are there to serve but one purpose, which is for people of questionable character to be able to launder any ill-gotten cash via allegedly straightforward and usefully large online expenditures and thereby not only serve to legalize those particular funds but also help hide their very existence from taxation.

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CaliSkier

Ironic, as I just saw you post on “laundering”’ right before posting Kaiser! LOL

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Curiously, but a week short of the Ides of March and as such courtesy of a counterintuitively serendipitous CaliSkier-Kaiser coin-driven confluence, the eminently convenient Caesar’s Contemporary Currency Cleaning Corporation came into being.

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Antonio

Et tu Brutus?

Kaiser Wilhelm

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CaliSkier

A reminder for those that seem to lash out at our fellow bloggers with comments that are not uplifting. Treat others with kindness and respect, using the “Golden rule” as your compass. “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” Another, helpful belief or set of teachings may also want to be considered as well, having originated in India(Nepalese region), prior to spreading to Central, East and Southeast Asian countries, such as Thailand. This one I speak of, is known for the Noble Eightfold Path. One part of this Noble Eightfold Path consists of the “Right Speech”.… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

You may have noticed, CaliSkier, that while I am well aware of their records for kneejerk abrasive behavior, I have still given it my best to engage these particular individuals in ongoing civil dialogue. Alas, rather than simply accept my efforts regarding both peace and inclusion, this tag team, in its observed inclination to derision and defamation, has once more reared its not especially amicable head.

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CaliSkier

Sir Kaiser, I have noticed your great resolve to often take the high road. Some may just want to move onto another blog site perhaps, if self control doesn’t allow for peace of mind, when reading posts, regardless of content or regularity that have been made in a civil, humorous, non threatening manner? Just saying… Thanks to all, for what you bring to this uncanny gang of misfits, sharing in a hobby that in some way, shape or form, we participate in! Keep on Keeping On…. PS Jeff Leegan are you still out there? Any proof sets purchased or any… Read more »

Jeff Legan

Yeah, I am still here. I have lost interest in the proof ASE’s I have been buying from the Mint since 2008 but am still buying the new ones. I tried to sell my proof ASE collection using an ad in a local community newspaper at a small profit last year, no luck. Not even an inquiry. Guess I will have to wait until Silver climbs nearer to $50 an ounce. I also still buy the Silver proof set, uncirculated set, circulated set and the proof Morgan and Peace dollars. I might still buy a proof Palladium coin from the… Read more »

Rich

How nice to hear from you again! There were several occasions over the last month or two when I wanted to hit the join the discussion and write (a Message in a Bottle): Sending out an S.O.S. to Jeff Legan … Perhaps someone could cue up The Police.

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Jeff Legan

Hi Rich, yeah, I saw it all and was disappointed Kaiser Wilhelm disappeared again, but at least it was only for a short while this time. Others spoke up so I did not need to that time (thanks for your calming words Caliskier). Major D took a lot of schoolyard abuse this last time. I respect him greatly. I don’t just jump in for every spat (I never did), I need to see a bad pattern developing. I have jumped in twice now and it is a pretty thankless task. CaliSkier thought I was the problem last time so I… Read more »

Rich

Jeff, I am indeed obliged by your thoughtful and honest words. You and Sir Kaiser have always brought something very special to this Coin News site, I’m talking about your wisdom. Thank you so very much for championing those thankless tasks here when we needed you the most. I know you are following our daily commentary even if you don’t routinely contribute, and that you will reply when necessary or are called upon. Your life’s coin collecting journey has many parallels to mine, and I wish you all the best. As for our dear friend Antonio, he took the words… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Holy cow, Jeff Legan, for someone who has by his own admission “lost interest” in what the Mint produces these days you are certainly still managing to pick up quite a variety of their various annual flagship-type products on a clearly regular basis! I say good for you to care enough about contemporary domestic coinage to want to continue to acquire these staples of the American coin collecting hobby, and that in spite of your apparent disappointment with a preponderance of the overall output of the US Mint. And not so incidentally, while last but most certainly not in any… Read more »

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Antonio

Loose interest in collecting coins? I think not.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I’m not sure exactly which comment that refers to, Antonio, but I do know for sure that I’m certainly not losing interest in coins. 🙂

Jeff Legan

Hi Kaiser Wilhelm, Always nice to see your comments here. The site is certainly not the same welcoming place without your presence. Sorry I did not respond sooner, as I mentioned above to Rich I am busier now and have less leisure time. Hey Kaiser Wilhelm, If you have the time or inclination, I think you should check out a blog I have looked at daily for at least 10 years, maybe even 20. The guy just died on Friday, so that will leave a hole in my life. While his blog is still active, you should probably check out… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

A very big Hello to you, my dear friend Jeff Legan; how wonderful it is to have you back here at CoinNews! Talk about what it’s like to have a valued someone missing from the site; your extended absence was certainly at the top of that list. I’m not sure if you’re just dropping by or you plan on hanging around this time, but I definitely hope it’s the latter. Although, from your mention of how busy you are these days I fear you might be hard-pressed to find the time to be a regular here again, bit I suppose… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Herr CaliSkier, nothing would be more gratifying to me and likely the many others of us participating in all of the interesting discussions here than to have this years long cherished coin collection site of ours to be made and kept free of any and all totally unnecessary contention and rancor. If this will ever entirely be the case I don’t know, but one can certainly always hope.

REB

Holy words to live by Father Kaiser:

“And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is [… well … not hope]”.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Well, Reb, I do believe that without faith there is fear, without hope there is despair, but without love there is absolutely nothing.

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Antonio

The greatest of these is love.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Absolutely and unquestionably. Nothing else even comes close.

REB

I’ll leave a bit of wisdom imparted by Ben Franklin: “Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.”

I like that one, Cali. I try to be a bit more like Ben every day.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Precisely, REB. It is the totally unnecessary negative comment which comes out of nowhere that I find the most offensive and disruptive. What’s the point?

CaliSkier

Glad this one resonates with you Reb! I also really like that one and sometimes or often, if a negative tone is implied or at least not positive, are truly better off, being left unsaid IMO. Cheers PS As ELO sang back in the day:” You got me runnin’, goin’ out of my mind
You got me thinkin’ that I’m wastin’ my time
Don’t bring me down
No, no, no, no, no
Ooh-ooh-hoo
I’ll tell you once more before I get off the floor
Don’t bring me down”……

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Yes, Sometimes a song can say it better.

Rich

Thanks, E 1, I was beginning to miss your customary postings of the Sunday Song of the Week.

E 1

You’re welcome Rich. Sometimes we need a little music to smooth things out here. Who doesn’t like CN MTV.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Salt of the earth Margo McSweeney’s Walking After Midnight

REB

Thanks for the Electro-Lighted medal, Cali. I got out the loupe to check for a privy mark, but alas, I couldn’t locate one.

I think my two favorite ELO songs are “Telephone Line” and “Confusion”. I tend to prefer Jeff Lynne’s more pensive, introspective downtempo productions.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I completely agree, REB. In the case of Dire Straits, another of my favorite bands, Mark Knoepfler’s downbeat Telegraph Road is, at least in my own simple opinion, one of his most memorable songs.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Sorry…the video link didn’t work. Shiite happens, eh?

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REB

The best two songs on Brothers in Arms are “Your Latest Trick” and “Why Worry”. (Sez ME!)

Kaiser Wilhelm

REB,

Which is definitely saying a lot, my friend, since that entire album is quite the masterpiece!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Nothing but nothing can best the original Mark Knopfler & Co.

Kaiser Wilhelm

It’s truly awesome, CaliSkier, that you should call this great band to the fore! Not only was ELO one of the best rock bands ever but its driving force Jeff Lynne can be listed among the top songwriters of theirs or any generation.

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Antonio

What happened to that electric guitar Bob Dylan played ONCE?

Kaiser Wilhelm

I’m not familiar with that, Antonio. On the other hand but also very much in that respect, if you get the chance I highly recommend watching some of the videos on YouTube regarding the Steely Dan band’s then-unprecedented unbelievably complex recording process. I have to say that what they insisted on doing to record their albums totally blew my mind because they either had the most anally retentive/OCD-fixated routine possible or the absolutely most dedicated-to-perfectionism music recording method within the entire worldwide venue of the rock (pop?) music.

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Antonio

Also keeps you in good graces with your wife.

Antonio

My only chance to own a Continental Currency I’ll ever have. I’m glad I did.

cagcrisp

The American Gold Eagle Proofs launch March 20, 2025.

Gibson had one Last Shot to have a vision for the future vs. the 3+ years of relics of the past.

IF she does the Right Thing, at least someone can look back and say “Finally”…

REB

What is the “Right Thing” here? Change the design in ten days? Up the gold content? Add a two-ounce coin? Limit the mintage to 100 coins per fractional? Seems to me that the train has already left the station with the cast die.

cagcrisp

Reb,

She needs to Either price the 1 oz. and the 1/10 oz. American Gold Eagle Proofs appropriately Or she needs to quit Undercutting a Trillion dollars worth of Gold…

Kaiser Wilhelm

cagcrisp,

Isn’t the Mint Director held to prescribed pricing by the Mint’s official grid?

CaliSkier

Kaiser Wilhelm and Reb, Cag has long(many, many years) been saying, the US Mint has been selling numismatic gold, way, way too cheap. He gets giddy and I’m still not sure why, each and every time the US Mint raises prices on PM product. Many would think he must get a cut of their additional windfall and no matter how high they raise prices, it’s never ever enough in his opinion. I still don’t understand why he continually advocates for more and more and more premiums tacked on to PM products to the detriment of US collectors. Whatever money the… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Thank you so very much, CaliSkier, for taking all of that clearly precious time and more than obviously considerable if not even yeoman effort to try to explain to your fellow numismatic correspondents here as best as you are able to what exactly might indeed be going on here with regard to cagcrisp’s constant and admittedly more than simply baffling calls for ever higher precious metal prices, especially so in the specific case of its gold coins, by the US Mint. I’ll be the very first to admit I haven’t even the faintest whisp of a clue as to what… Read more »

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REB

^ What Cali said … except with fewer words.

I did particularly enjoy one writerly turn of phrase: “Fishy, fishy,’fishy, smelly “Super Red Herring” flipping and flopping all over the place, is what I say….”

Now THAT, Sir Cali, is a masterstroke of genius! Bravo!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mega-kudos to CaliSkier indeed! And now that you happen to mention it, REB, here we have “Monty Python: Find the Fish”.

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sharks2th

Cali, an updated grid was supposedly published in January. I filed a complaint with the mint in February when I went looking for the change in the palladium eagle prices, which happened about 2 weeks before anyone here noted it. When you click on the link on the federal register site you just get a generic mint page, not the new grid. The mint responded to my query with their normal form email thanking me for the correspondence and apologizing for the inconvenience without telling me how to get to the new grid. I tried typing in the possible address… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

sharks2th,

As is quite clearly perhaps all too often the case with the U.S. Mint, there are some things that only it and the Shadow know.

Kaiser Wilhelm

“Relics of the past”, cagcrisp, is by far the best way to describe what has been all too much of our available fare from the US Mint these past few years. However, I do believe I detect a bright golden gleam in your eyes even at this distance regarding the upcoming (noon on March 20, Thursday) release of the AGE Proofs!

Antonio

I only purchased the set of American Gold Eagle Proofs once 30 years ago.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Thirty years ago, Antonio, I was paying such a hefty sum for child support I wouldn’t have been able to buy a set of American Fools Gold Sparrow Proofs.

cagcrisp

The Very Last post I made about Gibson on MNB was 1 year and 3 days ago…

March 6, 2024 at 10:08 am
@HarryB says,”I was hoping investors would move to bitcoin or some other vaporware…..and leave gold Mint issues affordable……guess that hope will not be happening……”

The United States Mint under Gibson has been pricing Numismatic Gold on an Economic basis…

…Not a Financial basis…

In FY2025 the United States Mint will price Numismatic Gold on a Financial basis…

cagcrisp

“In FY2025 the United States Mint will price Numismatic Gold on a Financial basis…”

That prediction was made long before DOGE…

Kaiser Wilhelm

Perhaps it’s all just a big misunderstanding, cagrisp. DOGE was in fact meant to at long last realize the government’s dream of a Department of Gold Enhancement.

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CaliSkier

HarryB said: “why are some coins on Ebay listed for 10-20 times actual value, no chance of selling”. Never say never Harry! LOL I think that some of these, off the charts, overpriced products do possibly sell occasionally? The seller is banking on an uneducated consumer possibly? Maybe someone with poor eyesight or elderly, who happened to hit the buy button, that are too embarrassed or they possibly no longer have the consciousness(Alzheimer’s or?) to actually get through or know how to handle the return process or possibly being stuck, because the seller had declared, “no returns accepted? An over… Read more »

HarryB

Cali: I have pondered this observation of way overpriced coins on eBay to the point of watching some of the auctions for years……..never saw a watched auction sell…..tracked some of interest by TPG cert numbers….nothing…. posting this observation some years ago on MNB I got similar responses to yours and the Kaiser…….perhaps someday I will understand….

Kaiser Wilhelm

Some things, HarryB, are simply beyond our ken…and barbie.

HarryB

yep…..

Kaiser Wilhelm

I do believe, CaliSkier, you’ve hit upon the principal reason these absolutely outrageous coin prices do not in fact universally serve to deter customers. Quite simply, and to paraphrase (and somewhat mangle) an old truism, while there may be no way to fool all of the people all the time, there are on the other hand more than likely many ways to at the very least fool some of the people some of the time.

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Antonio

Good one! Said like a true politician.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Thanks, Antonio, although I must confess the only elective posts I’ve ever been the fortunate or otherwise occupant of are U.S. Army Vienna’s Best Dressed Cub Scout, Heidelberg American High School Biology Club President, and HAHS Track & Field Team Captain.

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Rick

REB,
It maybe too late to take a look at this coin to consider buying? It’s another one of those SC commemorative’s like the one in the special OGP packaging.
If you want a clean, non-toned example to replace, the coin below might be it?
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1773090/1936-D-Columbia-South-Carolina-Sesquicentennial-Half-Dollar-NGC-MS-66-CAC-Green

Rick

I totally spaced it until just now,
been traveling.

REB

Thanks for the lead, Rick. I’m going to hold my fire for now. I might buy the D (again), the S, & the P at a SC coin shop or show. I always like to share the wealth with the local guy. I bought my New Orleans’ dimes in the Big Easy. I bought my Charlotte gold from a local dealer. I tried to buy the 1838-D in Georgia but had to resort to an SC dealer in Charlotte. As for the 1861D, I may hit Hotlanta for that one. When I visit Carson City sometime soon, you can guess… Read more »

Rick

It would be great to see those 3 coins(when fully acquired)installed back into that tabbed holder from back in the day. I then remembered that the D is trapped inside of rectangular plastic. However, there are methods to release the coins into the wild…

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Rick

PS: It’s good to see that you are not a Proof-only collector. You’ve got an impressive MS buildup developing.
The 1861-D $5 is a six figure rarity in AU grades, so shop carefully!
I never miss a chance at the Shrimp & Chicken Kabob at Lickety Split Southern Kitchen when I’m in Hotlanta on business…

REB

I never miss a chance at the Shrimp & Chicken Kabob at Lickety Split Southern Kitchen when I’m in Hotlanta on business…

I will check it out next time I’m there.

REB

RELEASE THE PRISONERS!

Kaiser Wilhelm

INCLUDING THIS ONE!

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REB

Different side of the same slabbed coin, Kaiser.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I just knew there had to be some connection, REB; thanks for “identifying” it.

cagcrisp

Today is one of those days from my nearly 3 year old post on MNB:

April 10, 2022 at 11:38 am

Everyone of my clients get the same message from me when they start:

“If you lose $20,000 on Monday, you lose $20,000 on Tuesday, you lose $20,000 on Wednesday, what do you do on Thursday?”

IF the answer they give me is Not what I want to hear then we need to try another approach.

You have to make sure Each Client can sleep good at night and invest accordingly…

Kaiser Wilhelm

If I were to hear those words from a prospective investment advisor it would be incumbent upon me to look elsewhere for a new one and to do so immediately.

cagcrisp

10 Year Treasury is Currently 4.217%

$36+ Trillion in debt and someone wants to lend Uncle Sam 4.2% for 10 Years?

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Kaiser Wilhelm

cagrisp,

It appears from your description that we don’t at this point know how much is being lent to the Treasury by way of Treasury Note purchases. On other hand we do know the figure of 4.217% is the rate of interest that will be earned by the purchaser of those Treasury Notes over their ten-year period. As for the issue of the size of the U.S. National Debt, as long as the purchaser of these Notes keeps receiving the mandated interest payments it will make no difference to them what the U.S. Government’s total debt is.

DaveSWFL

Kaiser,
Cag tends to love to play the “See if you can figure out the point I am trying to make” game. It can take you down a very deep hole if you let it!

CaliSkier

DaveSWFL, you are very Kind to clue Kaiser into, how Cag tends to play his cards and get people to engage in charades. I will say, a good thing is, this sometimes will or can lead to an education or increase in knowledge occasionally. However this can also lead to a frustrating, no conclusion or stalemate often, as well. Many of us have had an opportunity to jump in headfirst down that “Rabbit hole” and find out firsthand that, once inside, there often appear to be many, many different paths, holes to choose from, which lead to, more holes to… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

CaliSkier and DaveSWFL,

I thank you both very kindly for your very helpful and certainly welcome tutorial. I would think it can hardly ever be a bad thing to be better informed, which is to say become more aware regarding where someone relatively unfamiliar might or – as in this case has been made plain – might not be coming from. I will take as my “lesson” from this to remember to be more than ordinarily circumspect and try to consume everything with at least a shaker or two of salt on occasions of interaction with the said Mr. cagcrisp.

Kaiser Wilhelm

DaveSWFL,

I find this reminiscent of Sherlock Holmes and his trademark phrase “The game’s afoot, Watson!” Thankfully, in my elected Watson persona I can rely on the highly estimable Mr. Holmes to perform all the heavy lifting while I myself stand back and watch his prodigious brain go into fearsome action.

cagcrisp

Kaiser,

The point is that the Majority of people buying the 10 Year Treasury at 4.217% are Not buying to get 4.217% YTM…

Kaiser Wilhelm

cagcrisp,

Then I would be remiss in not inquiring as to why they are making this purchase.

cagcrisp

Kaiser,

I have bought many 10-Year Treasuries over the years, but none have been held to maturity. Most purchases are made with the expectation that interest rates will decline. Today, the 10-Year Treasury yield closed at 4.230%. On January 14, 2025, it closed at 4.793%. Investors who purchased on January 14th and sold today have experienced a significant return on investment. Those investing in 10-Year Treasuries with a yield to maturity (YTM) of 4.217% are anticipating intervention from the Federal Reserve.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Once again I am happy to be able to say “Now I get it.” Many thanks, cagcrisp, for taking the time and effort to not only give an eminently clear but additionally sufficiently thorough explanation as to how that process works from start to finish.

As the newly met aliens in the STNG episode Darmok proclaimed upon realizing Captain Picard had managed to learn their unusually difficult metaphoric language, “His eyes are open.”

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Cag, A gloomy Monday for the markets. It looks like investors are pulling out of stocks and moving into GOLD. The S&P is below the 200 DMA now. I would think most of this activity is coming from overseas investors getting out of USA. GOLD, Money Markets, and Treasuries are about the only safe place for now. I guess this is the price we must pay to rid the country of Fentanyl and the Cartel Gang Bangers on our streets. I will say, it’s been weeks since I’ve seen any Gang Bangers here in San Jose. The markets are definitely… Read more »

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cagcrisp

E 1,

The dollar is just getting crushed.

Exactly 2 months ago Today we were looking at parity with the Euro (102.54)

Currently we are looking at 108.43.

Just amazing…

E 1

Cag,

Any estimates on how long the downturn will continue? I know, a really bad question. But, I almost feel the “R” word in the back of my mind. One would think the FED could jump in and make a cut if things get bad. The next couple of months look uncertain at best.

cagcrisp

E 1,

Whatever happens now seems to be intensified, so it can’t last long without something changing.

Agree on the “R” word and Agree that the Fed can come in and lower rates…

Rich

How about the “S” word, Stagflation?

cagcrisp

Rich,

That is also a possibility.

REB

LOL.

It’s been a lifetime since I’ve seen a single “Cartel Gang Banger” on our streets. As for Fentanyl, eliminate the demand, eliminate the supply. If this is “the price we must pay”, count me out.

Such a stupid take, E1. Get back to something you know – coins.

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REB, If you live in Los Altos, Saratoga, or Pebble Beach – then you’re not seeing any of it. If you live in suburban San Jose, then you’re seeing plenty. ICE has been raiding homes late at night with lighted Helo support pulling problem illegals out of their homes and throwing them into SWAT-like transport vehicles. ICE has been showing up at the public grade schools and grabbing specific people when they arrive to drop off their kids in the mornings. If you have never seen a gang banger in San Jose before, then here is a picture of one… Read more »

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REB

I am comforted that we’ve caught a couple of “gang bangers”. It sure makes crashing the economy worth it. I’ve observed none of the things you have. I have observed rising prices, good workers fired for no good reason, a plummeting stock market (thank God I’m diversified), and formerly close allies who now hate us.

I can’t take too much more “winning.” Now, let’s get back to coins, please.

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Also REB, If you think things south of the boarder are socially fine, then watch this video. Then you will see exactly what they think of us, our government, and our president. It’s no joke. So, Tariffs Away, Build that Wall, and send those killers home. If that is what it takes to keep San Jose Safe, then so be it. REB, I am so sorry that we have a difference of opinion on this subject.

REB

… and this has something to do with COINS? Coin News, E1. Not Fox News.

E 1

REB,

I’m sorry. I know you’re a good person. We can just push this conversation overboard and forget about it. Back to coins.

E 1

REB

E 1:

Agreed. Though I would like to interject one last extracurricular comment – my favorite Pink Floyd album is The Wall. Sure Dark Side of the Moon stayed on the charts forever, but to my ear, “Comfortably Numb” is their finest moment of song craftmanship.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Agree. The Wall is the winner.

Antonio

In other news, cents are still being minted. 🙁

Kaiser Wilhelm

No one can surpass this totally amazing music video! Kudos!

E 1

Roger Waters, No Entry, No Fly, No Head, Do Not Pass Go, Go Directly to Gitmo.

Rick

Gilmore agrees…

Now now, let’s be civil boys & girls(did I just say that!?) lol…

Rick

“Gilmour”

Kaiser Wilhelm

Might that be the Guardia Civil Boys and the West End Girls?

Kaiser Wilhelm

A simple substitution of Elon Musk for Roger Waters in your comment, E 1, and I’m all on board with that for sure. Go, Elon, Go!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Just to clear things up a bit here, E 1. The background video presentation at this concert was orchestrated by Pink Floyd’s Roger Waters and as such had no input from the Mexican audience.

Antonio

Their loss, our gain. Silver too.

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Even Crypto is getting a bit of smack down! Bitcoin and Ethereum both down over 4%. Both lower than they’ve been in many months. Sure is tempting to jump into that fray, hoping for a quick recovery, windfall when they rebound? However, just like other investments, you have to remember, it’s gambling and there are no guarantees, regardless of what people say, think or read. If it were easy, everyone would be jumping in, profiting, then heading home to spend their spoils. The ones attractive to me, requiring the least amount of outlay/risk, are ADA/Cardano and Doge.(both down over 6%)… Read more »

DaveSWFL

Cali,
Some of the best advice I ever got was to never try to catch falling knives!

Kaiser Wilhelm

CaliSkier,

I like the way you parse out the choices we have to make regarding opportunity, risk, odds, chance, likelihood and gamble; what a minefield of options to negotiate!

Antonio

Uncirculated, burnished, proof, enhanced proof, reverse proof. Minefield indeed. So many decisions to make.

Kaiser Wilhelm

And lest we forget, enhanced reverse proof. The one that got away.

DaveSWFL

E1,
Thanks for the update. That’s the best news I’ve heard in quite a while. Hope it lasts! Drugs & gangs are the war our nation’s children have to fight. A more difficult task than the the forever wars.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Whoa, are Precious Metal Prices ever in the RED today! What just happened?

DaveSWFL

My take on the whole market situation is that pretty much everything was priced for perfection and then along came Jones(Tarrifs). When corrections happen frequently EVERYTHING gets taken to the woodshed (except for the best behaved kids – dividend paying value stocks). JMHO from previous experience.
I’m looking for gold to stay above $2800 and silver above $31.50

Kaiser Wilhelm

Thanks, DaveSWFL, for shedding some much-needed light on this issue. I especially appreciate your explanation of how one factor leads to another whether we would like it to or not.

Antonio

Today, March 11, gold +$2,900, silver +$32. Not too shabby.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Never mind, gold is back up again. Everyone go back to whatever they were doing.

Antonio

Waiting for my next delivery of coin. 🙂

Kaiser Wilhelm

The story of our lives.

Tony@GA

Rumor is Ventris is on the way OUT!

Rich

It seems the rumor is that she is retiring (source: a couple of silver stackers on YouTube, 3/10/2025).

Rick

Well then E1, and REB. You both collect interesting coins, and you both check in with Fox occasionally to get the latest facts, and most certainly the latest BS. ◉⁠‿⁠◉ …
With that out of the way, I’ll get right back to the topic of coins that you may find interesting!?
Coin crack-outs, and Proof First Spouse Gold……

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Rick

More specifically, the First Spouse Gold Liberty Subset. You know the backstory on those. If not, Google is everyone’s friend around here…
I did some digging, grabbed the scarce 4 coin Spouse box of 2007, conversion capsules, and the 4 beauties encased in NGC plastic. You know what I’m going to do, so stay tuned… I’m away from my favorite hobby desk for a few weeks, so I’ll get back to you later with the end result, my two coin friends…

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Hi Rick,

Slight derailment here. Everyone is sideways about their portfolios and one thing led to another. Well….. Hey, since we were only able to get 4 takers on your “GTG” for that nicely toned 1964 Kennedy half – I was hoping you would make a special exception and spill the beans.

Always a friend, if you’ll have me.

Cheers

Rick

You’re my friend, and so is REB(amazing, but true on my end)…
I was hoping more guesses would come in, but maybe it’s not that interesting. I was also hoping that Sharks2th would chime in, I like his perspective. Maybe next time.
I gotta go and take a 4-5 hr nap now, so give me a day or two for the beans.
I’m in the city of Angels, not much has changed down here. Some potholes have been filled in, so that’s a plus.. Later.

E 1

Rick,

I was hoping Sharks2th or JQC could chime in on this one. But anyways. Say “Hi” to the Angels for me. Maybe you can meet and greet with JQC at a local well-known restaurant.

Cheers Bro

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rick and E 1,

I don’t think it was so much an absence of interest in the GTG but perhaps a not all that unexpected dearth of expertise. I for one will readily admit I don’t know the first thing about grading but nevertheless jumped in simply to try my admittedly WAG luck.

REB

Now that I have dabbled in some of the actual 19th-century coins behind these designs, I have come to appreciate them more. It may be time for a closer review of these “modern liberties” in the safe space.

I wish the spouse set would continue with Mrs. Carter. But. I don’t see that happening in the next four years.

Antonio

Or a James Earl Carter Presidential Dollar.

DAVESWFL

Need a new article – closing in on 200 posts since last one dropped

REB

Post #195 – Agree.

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Antonio

I’m seeing 210 as of now.

Rich

Yes, Antonio, thanks to you.

Kaiser Wilhelm

In part, indeed Rich, but for the most part don’t we work as a team?

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