US Mint Sales: 2025-W Proof Silver Eagle and Arkansas Dollar Debut

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Bag of 2024-D American Innovation Dollars for Arkansas
U.S. Mint image showing a bag of 2025-D American Innovation Dollars for Arkansas

The United States Mint introduced several new products last week, including the 2025-W Proof American Silver Eagle, the 2025 Congratulations Set, and dollars celebrating innovation in Arkansas.

Released on Jan. 7, the latest innovation dollar honors Raye Montague, an Arkansas native and pioneering engineer who designed the U.S. Navy’s Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate. Available in 25-coin rolls and 100-coin bags, the products posted initial sales of a combined 766,225 coins – a slower start compared to each of last year’s four issues.

For comparison:

  • The 2024 Missouri dollar, featuring George Washington Carver examining a sample of his work in his laboratory, opened with sales of 720,850 coins (now at 878,725 coins).
  • The 2024 Maine dollar, highlighting Dr. Bernard Lown and his direct current defibrillator, started with 908,150 coins (now at 877,950 coins after downward adjustments).
  • The 2024 Alabama dollar, depicting a Saturn V rocket, began with sales of 980,800 coins (now at 1,005,725 coins), marking the series’ strongest debut since its introduction in 2018.
  • The 2024 Illinois dollar, illustrating the invention of the steel plow, opened at 801,250 coins (now at 885,125 coins).

2025-W Proof American Silver Eagle Debut Sales

US Mint product image 2025 Congratulations Set
U.S. Mint product image for the 2025 Congratulations Set

Released on Jan. 9 in three formats – individually, in 40-coin packs for authorized bulk buyers, and as part of the 2025 Congratulations Set – the 2025-W Proof American Silver Eagle opened with combined sales of 213,731 coins. This marks a 30.5% decline from the prior year’s coin, which debuted with 307,722 coins reported after six days, compared to four days for the latest release.

For reference, the 2025-W Proof Silver Eagle’s initial four-day sales included:

  • 188,052 coins sold individually (product code 25EA),
  • 13,680 coins through the 40-coin bulk option (25EA040), representing 342 units, and
  • 11,999 coins sold as part of the Congratulations Set (product code 25RF).

By comparison, last year’s coins debuted with six-day starting sales of:

  • 246,588 coins sold individually (product code 24EA),
  • 47,240 coins through the 40-coin bulk option (24EA040), equating to 1,181 units, and
  • 13,894 coins sold as part of the Congratulations Set (product code 24RF).

The proof Silver Eagle and Arkansas Innovation dollar products were among the Mint’s best sellers.

U.S. Mint Top Sellers

Here is the roster of the U.S. Mint’s most sought-after numismatic products for the week ending on Jan. 12:

  1. 2025-W Proof Silver Eagle (+188,052)
  2. 2025 Congratulations Set (+11,999)
  3. 2025-P Arkansas American Innovation 25-Coin Rolls (+6,606)
  4. 2025-D Arkansas American Innovation 25-Coin Rolls (+6,079)
  5. 2025-P Arkansas American Innovation 100-Coin Bags (+2,725)
  6. 2025-P Proof U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Silver Dollar (+2,369 to 14,859)
  7. 2025-D Arkansas American Innovation 100-Coin Bags (+1,766)
  8. 2025-S Proof U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Half Dollar (+9,140)
  9. 2024 Mint Set (+1,058 to 168,504)
  10. 2024-S Morgan & Peace Silver Dollar Reverse Proof Set (+559 to 147,474)

In its latest report, the U.S. Mint published sales data for 517 numismatic products. The data revealed that 77 products outperformed their sales from the previous week, compared to 75 in the prior report. Three products experienced a week-over-week increase of more than 1,000 units, compared to 1 previously.

Additionally, 9 products recorded modest declines in weekly sales, an improvement from the 14 noted in the previous report.

US Mint Sales: Numismatic Products

Below are tables showing the latest available sales for U.S. Mint numismatic products. The sales period covers from Jan. 6 to Jan. 12. Products with an asterisk (*) are no longer available or had no reported sales.

2025 Commemorative Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2025-S Proof U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Half Dollar 7,950 9,140 1,190 14.97%
2025-S Uncirculated U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Half Dollar 3,268 3,729 461 14.11%
2025-P Proof U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Silver Dollar 12,490 14,859 2,369 18.97%
2025-P Uncirculated U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Silver Dollar 3,787 4,335 548 14.47%
2025-W Proof U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary $5 Gold Coin 678 865 187 27.58%
2025-W Uncirculated U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary $5 Gold Coin 531 653 122 22.98%
2025 U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Three-Coin Proof Set 2,315 2,707 392 16.93%

2024 Commemorative Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-S Proof Greatest Generation Half Dollar 18,665 18,663 -2 -0.01%
2024-D Uncirculated Greatest Generation Half Dollar 8,436 8,435 -1 -0.01%
2024-P Proof Greatest Generation Silver Dollar 34,238 34,237 -1 0.00%
2024-P Uncirculated Greatest Generation Silver Dollar 11,022 11,021 -1 -0.01%
2024-W Proof Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin 1,558 1,558
2024-W Uncirculated Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin 1,377 1,377
2024 Greatest Generation Three-Coin Proof Set 4,692 4,691 -1 -0.02%
2024-S Proof Harriet Tubman Half Dollar 13,822 13,820 -2 -0.01%
2024-D Uncirculated Harriet Tubman Half Dollar 6,969 6,966 -3 -0.04%
2024-P Proof Harriet Tubman Silver Dollar 21,410 21,410
2024-P Uncirculated Harriet Tubman Silver Dollar 7,300 7,300
2024-W Proof Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin 1,660 1,660
2024-W Uncirculated Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin 1,292 1,292
2024 Harriet Tubman Three-Coin Proof Set 4,442 4,442

Morgan & Peace Silver Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-S Morgan & Peace Silver Dollar Reverse Proof Set 146,915 147,474 559 0.38%
2024-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar 169,805 170,096 291 0.17%
2024-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 304 304
2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar 153,755 153,969 214 0.14%
2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 304 304
2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar 162,868 162,930 62 0.04%
2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 316 316
2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar 155,368 155,416 48 0.03%
2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 309 309
2023-S Morgan & Peace Silver Dollar Reverse Proof Set 247,820 247,820
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar 361,518 361,614 96 0.03%
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 443 443
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar 326,897 326,940 43 0.01%
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 438 438
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar 260,527 260,527
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 330 330
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar 260,449 260,449
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 338 338

230th Anniversary Flowing Hair

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Flowing Hair Gold Coin 9,974 9,974
2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal 40,981 40,981
2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal (Bulk) 8,926 8,926

2024 Liberty & Britannia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-W Liberty & Britannia Gold Coin 5,549 5,549
2024-P Liberty & Britannia Silver Medal 33,228 33,230 2 0.01%

Armed Forces Silver Medals

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
U.S. Army 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,988 9,988
U.S. Marine Corps 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,988 9,988
U.S. Navy 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,987 9,987
U.S. Coast Guard 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,955 9,955
U.S. Air Force 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,953 9,953
U.S. Army 1 Ounce Silver Medal 17,715 17,817 102 0.58%
U.S. Marine Corps 1 Ounce Silver Medal 21,225 21,547 322 1.52%
U.S. Navy 1 Ounce Silver Medal 23,361 23,463 102 0.44%
U.S. Coast Guard 1 Ounce Silver Medal 18,935 18,963 28 0.15%
U.S. Air Force 1 Ounce Silver Medal 22,412 22,475 63 0.28%

American Liberty Products

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 12,188 12,188
2023-P American Liberty Silver Medal 36,757 36,866 109 0.30%
2022-P American Liberty Silver Medal 74,414 74,414
2021-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 12,471 12,471
2019-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 24,609 24,609
2019-P American Liberty Silver Medal 44,928 44,928
2018-W $10 American Liberty Gold Coin 70,357 70,381 24 0.03%
2017 American Liberty Silver Four-Medal Set* 32,647 32,647
2017-S Enhanced Uncirculated Coin Set* 210,419 210,419
2017-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 49,698 49,698
2017-P Proof American Liberty Silver Medal* 55,187 55,187

Clad Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Proof Set 355,782 355,778 -4 0.00%
2023 Proof Set* 369,233 369,233
2022 Proof Set* 400,007 400,007
2021 Proof Set* 512,866 512,866
2020 Proof Set* 464,730 464,730
2019 Proof Set* 601,364 601,364
2018 Proof Set* 517,081 517,081
2017 Proof Set* 568,678 568,678
2024 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 60,651 60,789 138 0.23%
2023 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 59,580 59,623 43 0.07%
2022 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 82,862 82,905 43 0.05%
2021 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 89,137 89,166 29 0.03%
2020 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 108,400 108,400
2019 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 149,885 149,885
2024 American Women Quarters Proof Set 48,211 48,391 180 0.37%
2023 American Women Quarters Proof Set 58,543 58,600 57 0.10%
2022 American Women Quarters Proof Set* 42,821 42,821
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* 64,242 64,242
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set 84,697 84,697
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* 86,697 86,697

Silver Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Silver Proof Set 165,943 166,436 493 0.30%
2023 Silver Proof Set 196,444 196,545 101 0.05%
2022 Silver Proof Set* 249,369 249,369
2021 Silver Proof Set* 306,174 306,207 33 0.01%
2020 Silver Proof Set* 313,183 313,183
2019 Silver Proof Set* 415,382 415,382
2018 Silver Proof Set* 332,273 332,273
2018 Silver Reverse Proof Set* 199,116 199,116
2024 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 33,881 33,930 49 0.14%
2023 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 45,859 45,876 17 0.04%
2022 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 57,730 57,730
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 64,012 64,012
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 78,588 78,588
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 79,301 79,301
2025 Congratulations Gift Set 11,999
2024 Congratulations Gift Set 26,134 26,190 56 0.21%
2023 Congratulations Gift Set 39,287 39,287
2022 Congratulations Gift Set 29,710 29,710
2021 Congratulations Gift Set* 39,997 39,997
2020 Congratulations Gift Set* 24,468 24,468
2019 Congratulations Gift Set* 31,638 31,638
2024 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 21,909 22,149 240 1.10%
2023 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 29,172 29,202 30 0.10%
2022 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* 49,729 49,729
2021 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* 49,852 49,852
2020 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* 50,061 50,061

US Mint Uncirculated Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Uncirculated Mint Set 167,446 168,504 1,058 0.63%
2023 Uncirculated Mint Set 184,299 184,295 -4 0.00%
2022 Uncirculated Mint Set* 249,923 249,923
2021 Uncirculated Mint Set 233,046 233,124 78 0.03%
2020 Uncirculated Mint Set* 211,787 211,787
2019 Uncirculated Mint Set* 346,117 346,117
2018 Uncirculated Mint Set* 257,536 257,536
2017 Uncirculated Mint Set* 286,813 286,813

Kids Coin Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2019 Youth Coin and Currency Set 24,888 24,888
2019 Explore and Discover Coin Set 45,462 45,490 28 0.06%
2019 Rocketship* 49,921 49,921
2014 Coin Discovery Set* 13,151 13,151

Ornaments

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Mighty Minters Ornament 3,397 3,404 7 0.21%
2024 U.S. Mint Ornament 4,980 4,981 1 0.02%
2024 Rev. Dr. Pauli Murray Ornament 911 912 1 0.11%
2024 Patsy Takemoto Mink Ornament 948 948
2024 Dr. Mary Edwards Walker Ornament 1,097 1,104 7 0.64%
2024 Celia Cruz Ornament 2,201 2,204 3 0.14%
2024 Zitkala-Ša Ornament 932 932
2023 U.S. Mint Ornament 5,365 5,374 9 0.17%
2023 Mighty Minters Ornament 3,263 3,265 2 0.06%
2022 U.S. Mint Ornament 6,032 6,038 6 0.10%
2022 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,258 4,260 2 0.05%
2023 Bessie Coleman Ornament 1,322 1,323 1 0.08%
2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Ornament; 1,513 1,514 1 0.07%
2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Ornament 1,857 1,858 1 0.05%
2023 Jovita Idar Ornament 1,328 1,328
2023 Maria Tallchief Ornament 1,562 1,563 1 0.06%
2022 Maya Angelou Ornament 3,493 3,496 3 0.09%
2022 Dr. Sally Ride Ornament 3,580 3,583 3 0.08%
2022 Wilma Mankiller Ornament 2,432 2,433 1 0.04%
2022 Nina Otero-Warren Ornament 1,877 1,878 1 0.05%
2022 Anna May Wong Ornament 3,346 3,351 5 0.15%
2021 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,821 4,821
2021 U.S. Mint Ornament 7,970 7,970
2020 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,589 4,589
2020 U.S. Mint Ornament 6,717 6,718 1 0.01%
2019 Mighty Minters Ornament 7,105 7,105
2019 U.S. Mint Ornament 11,986 11,986

Proof & Reverse Proof Silver Eagles

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2025-W Proof Silver Eagle 188,052
2025-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 342
2024-S Proof Silver Eagle 119,908 120,079 171 0.14%
2024-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 915 915
2024-W Proof Silver Eagle 283,062 283,421 359 0.13%
2024-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 1,543 1,543
2023-S Proof Silver Eagle 182,645 182,677 32 0.02%
2023-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 743 743
2022-S Proof Silver Eagle 199,698 199,698
2022-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 2,925 2,925
2023-W Proof Silver Eagle 436,484 436,484
2023-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 2,118 2,118
2022-W Proof Silver Eagle 496,994 496,994
2022-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 4,171 4,171
2021 Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle Two-Coin Set* 124,916 124,916
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* 199,744 199,744
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 652 652
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* 300,097 300,097
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 2,142 2,142
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1* 299,898 299,898
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 686 686

Uncirculated Silver Eagles

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 93,253 93,292 39 0.04%
2023 139,681 139,704 23 0.02%
2022 173,087 173,105 18 0.01%
2022 Bulk 40 989 989
2021* 174,933 174,933
2021 Bulk 40* 324 324

2024 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 3,466 3,486 20 0.58%
1/2 oz 1,641 1,646 5 0.30%
1/4 oz 5,109 5,118 9 0.18%
1/10 oz 9,629 9,676 47 0.49%
4-Coin Set 4,683 4,692 9 0.19%

2023 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 6,478 6,478
1/2 oz 2,011 2,011
1/4 oz 4,493 4,493
1/10 oz 13,424 13,424
4-Coin Set 9,979 9,979

2022 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 5,913 5,913
1/2 oz 1,970 1,970
1/4 oz 4,464 4,464
1/10 oz 13,806 13,806
4-Coin Set 9,906 9,906

Uncirculated American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 2,750 2,755 5 0.18%
2023 6,527 6,529 2 0.03%
2022 8,900 8,900
2021* 9,063 9,063
2020* 6,284 6,284
2019* 5,851 5,851

Proof American Buffalo Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Proof Gold Buffalo 8,859 8,901 42 0.47%
2023 Proof Gold Buffalo 15,842 15,861 19 0.12%
2022 Proof Gold Buffalo 15,943 15,943
2021 Proof Gold Buffalo* 16,976 16,976
2020 Proof Gold Buffalo* 11,887 11,887
2019 Proof Gold Buffalo* 14,844 14,844

Barbara Bush First Spouse Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2020-W Proof 2,967 2,967
2020-W Uncirculated 1,969 1,969

Proof American Platinum Eagle

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 5,094 5,102 8 0.16%
2023 8,488 8,491 3 0.04%
2022 9,941 9,941
2021 9,884 9,884
2020 9,835 9,835
2019 11,268 11,268
2018 16,215 16,219 4 0.02%
2017* 8,890 8,890

American Palladium Eagle

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-W Proof 3,431 3,448 17 0.50%
2023-W Uncirculated 5,777 5,777
2022-W Reverse Proof 7,398 7,398
2021-W Proof 5,170 5,170
2020-W Uncirculated 9,746 9,746
2019-W Reverse Proof 18,839 18,839
2018-W Proof* 14,986 14,986

Presidential Silver Medals

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Grover Cleveland Presidential Silver Medal 10,858 10,884 26 0.24%
2024 Chester A. Arthur Presidential Silver Medal 10,863 10,881 18 0.17%
2024 James A. Garfield Presidential Silver Medal 11,592 11,605 13 0.11%
2024 Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Silver Medal 11,794 11,799 5 0.04%
2023 Ulysses S. Grant Presidential Silver Medal 13,783 13,792 9 0.07%
2023 Andrew Johnson Presidential Silver Medal 12,722 12,729 7 0.06%
2023 Abraham Lincoln Presidential Silver Medal 19,631 19,655 24 0.12%
2023 James Buchanan Presidential Silver Medal 12,505 12,511 6 0.05%
2021 Franklin Pierce Presidential Silver Medal 12,723 12,731 8 0.06%
2022 Millard Fillmore Presidential Silver Medal 12,832 12,835 3 0.02%
2022 Zachary Taylor Presidential Silver Medal 13,230 13,233 3 0.02%
2022 James Knox Polk Presidential Silver Medal 13,465 13,471 6 0.04%
2021 John Tyler Presidential Silver Medal 13,851 13,855 4 0.03%
2021 William Henry Harrison Presidential Silver Medal 13,828 13,830 2 0.01%
2021 Martin Van Buren Presidential Silver Medal 13,970 13,974 4 0.03%
2020 Andrew Jackson Presidential Silver Medal 16,908 16,915 7 0.04%
2019 John Quincy Adams Presidential Silver Medal 15,031 15,037 6 0.04%
2019 James Monroe Presidential Silver Medal 15,499 15,504 5 0.03%
2019 James Madison Presidential Silver Medal 17,167 17,175 8 0.05%
2019 Thomas Jefferson Presidential Silver Medal 24,656 24,669 13 0.05%
2018 George Washington Presidential Silver Medal 35,918 35,935 17 0.05%
2018 John Adams Presidential Silver Medal 23,917 23,925 8 0.03%

American Innovation Reverse Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 32,282 32,591 309 0.96%
2023 40,085 40,135 50 0.12%
2022* 49,800 49,802 2 0.00%
2021* 49,813 49,813

2025 American Innovation Dollars – Arkansas

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 6,606
25-coin roll set (D) 6,079
100-coin bag (P) 2,725
100-coin bag (D) 1,766

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Missouri

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,512 7,536 24 0.32%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,848 6,869 21 0.31%
100-coin bag (P) 3,100 3,111 11 0.35%
100-coin bag (D) 2,069 2,075 6 0.29%

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Maine

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,987 8,005 18 0.23%
25-coin roll set (D) 7,136 7,165 29 0.41%
100-coin bag (P) 2,825 2,832 7 0.25%
100-coin bag (D) 2,147 2,155 8 0.37%

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Alabama

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,394 8,394
25-coin roll set (D) 7,443 7,443
100-coin bag (P) 3,149 3,149
100-coin bag (D) 2,949 2,949

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Illinois

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,299 8,300 1 0.01%
25-coin roll set (D) 7,325 7,325
100-coin bag (P) 2,464 2,473 9 0.37%
100-coin bag (D) 2,467 2,472 5 0.20%

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Mississippi

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,953 7,953
25-coin roll set (D) 6,887 6,887
100-coin bag (P) 2,448 2,452 4 0.16%
100-coin bag (D) 2,440 2,445 5 0.20%

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Indiana

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,022 8,022
25-coin roll set (D) 6,994 6,994
100-coin bag (P) 3,008 3,008
100-coin bag (D) 2,795 2,795

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Louisiana

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,993 7,993
25-coin roll set (D) 6,990 6,990
100-coin bag (P) 2,976 2,976
100-coin bag (D) 2,754 2,754

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Ohio

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,016 8,016
25-coin roll set (D) 6,978 6,978
100-coin bag (P) 2,972 2,972
100-coin bag (D) 2,747 2,747

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Tennessee

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,014 7,014
25-coin roll set (D) 7,010 7,010
100-coin bag (P) 2,786 2,786
100-coin bag (D) 2,786 2,786

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Kentucky

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,009 7,009
25-coin roll set (D) 7,002 7,002
100-coin bag (P) 2,771 2,771
100-coin bag (D) 2,779 2,779

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Vermont

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,023 7,023
25-coin roll set (D) 7,011 7,011
100-coin bag (P) 2,787 2,787
100-coin bag (D) 2,779 2,779

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Rhode Island

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,010 7,010
25-coin roll set (D) 7,007 7,007
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,787 2,787

2021 American Innovation Dollars – North Carolina

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,010 7,010
25-coin roll set (D) 7,018 7,018
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,790 2,790

2021 American Innovation Dollars – New York

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,006 7,006
25-coin roll set (D) 7,013 7,013
100-coin bag (P) 2,786 2,786
100-coin bag (D) 2,785 2,785

2021 American Innovation Dollars – Virginia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,015 7,015
25-coin roll set (D) 7,010 7,010
100-coin bag (P) 2,796 2,796
100-coin bag (D) 2,786 2,786

2021 American Innovation Dollars – New Hampshire

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,017 7,017
25-coin roll set (D) 7,017 7,017
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,790 2,790

2020 American Innovation Dollars – South Carolina

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 43,477 43,502 25 0.06%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,378 6,378
25-coin roll set (D) 6,399 6,399
100-coin bag (P) 2,734 2,734
100-coin bag (D) 2,378 2,378

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Maryland

Old

Sales

Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 49,852 49,852
25-coin roll set (P) 6,493 6,493
25-coin roll set (D) 6,471 6,471
100-coin bag (P) 2,725 2,725
100-coin bag (D) 2,737 2,737

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Massachusetts

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 49,785 49,785
25-coin roll set (P) 6,486 6,486
25-coin roll set (D) 6,481 6,481
100-coin bag (P) 2,746 2,746
100-coin bag (D) 2,744 2,744

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Connecticut

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 47,708 47,733 25 0.05%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,496 6,496
25-coin roll set (D) 6,425 6,425
100-coin bag (P) 2,736 2,736
100-coin bag (D) 2,747 2,747

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Georgia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 47,981 48,001 20 0.04%
25-coin roll set (P) 8,094 8,094
25-coin roll set (D) 7,542 7,542
100-coin bag (P) 3,459 3,459
100-coin bag (D) 3,690 3,694 4 0.11%

2019 American Innovation Dollars – New Jersey

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%

Increase

Reverse Proof (S) 52,735 52,757 22 0.04%
25-coin roll set (P) 9,103 9,103
25-coin roll set (D) 8,043 8,043
100-coin bag (P) 3,941 3,941
100-coin bag (D) 3,586 3,586

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Pennsylvania

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 56,202 56,223 21 0.04%
25-coin roll set (P) 10,458 10,458
25-coin roll set (D) 8,536 8,536
100-coin bag (P) 3,689 3,689
100-coin bag (D) 3,055 3,055

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Delaware

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 71,507 71,526 19 0.03%
25-coin roll set (P) 9,112 9,112
25-coin roll set (D) 8,372 8,372
100-coin bag (P) 3,203 3,203
100-coin bag (D) 3,385 3,385

2018 American Innovation Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S)* 74,720 74,720
Proof Coin (S) 255,441 255,441
25-coin roll set (P) 22,902 22,902
25-coin roll set (D) 25,725 25,725
100-coin bag (P)* 2,935 2,935
100-coin bag (D)* 2,954 2,954

George H.W. Bush Coin & Chronicles Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
$1 Coin & Set 11,521 11,521

2020 Bush Presidential $1 Coin & First Spouse Medal Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
$1 Coin & Set 9,876 9,876

2020 George H.W. Bush Presidential $1 Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll (P) 24,924 24,924
25-coin roll (D) 24,849 24,849
100-coin bag (P) 2,695 2,695
100-coin bag (D) 2,098 2,098
250-coin bag (P) 4,624 4,631 7 0.15%
250-coin bag (D) 5,833 5,846 13 0.22%

Native American Dollar Rolls

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 14,660 14,661 1 0.01%
2024-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 14,640 14,642 2 0.01%
2024-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,746 1,746
2024-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,795 1,795
2024-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,784 1,784
2024-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,692 1,692
2023-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,922 13,922
2023-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,954 13,954
2023-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,695 1,695
2023-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,694 1,694
2023-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,698 1,698
2023-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,618 1,618
2022-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,996 13,996
2022-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,965 13,965
2022-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,699 1,699
2022-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,614 1,614
2022-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,698 1,698
2022-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,699 1,699

Kennedy Half Dollar Rolls

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 8,736 8,800 64 0.73%
2024-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 26,261 26,261
2023-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 11,168 11,168
2023-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 24,987 24,987
2022-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 10,999 10,999
2022-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 21,926 21,926
2021-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 9,976 9,976
2021-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 21,989 21,989
2020-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 11,776 11,776
2020-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 24,312 24,312
2019-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 11,534 11,534
2019-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 24,132 24,132

2024 Zitkala-Ša Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 10,230 10,257 27 0.26%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,367 1,375 8 0.59%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,213 1,219 6 0.49%
Two-Roll Set 2,283 2,290 7 0.31%

2024 Celia Cruz Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 13,192 13,234 42 0.32%
100-Coin Bag (P) 3,963 3,971 8 0.20%
100-Coin Bag (D) 2,409 2,417 8 0.33%
Two-Roll Set 5,780 5,804 24 0.42%

2024 Dr. Mary Edwards Walker Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 10,861 10,869 8 0.07%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,487 1,495 8 0.54%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,204 1,206 2 0.17%
Two-Roll Set 2,544 2,546 2 0.08%

2024 Patsy Takemoto Mink Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 11,503 11,510 7 0.06%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,629 1,629
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,327 1,327
Two-Roll Set 2,794 2,796 2 0.07%

2024 Rev. Dr. Pauli Murray Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,315 12,321 6 0.05%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,925 1,927 2 0.10%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,542 1,544 2 0.13%
Two-Roll Set 3,033 3,036 3 0.10%

2023 Maria Tallchief Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,562 12,562
100-Coin Bag (P) 2,120 2,120
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,805 1,806 1 0.06%
Two-Roll Set 3,695 3,700 5 0.14%

2023 Jovita Idar Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,597 12,597
100-Coin Bag (P) 4,097 4,103 6 0.15%
100-Coin Bag (D) 3,664 3,671 7 0.19%
Two-Roll Set 4,027 4,032 5 0.12%

2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,678 12,678
100-Coin Bag (P) 4,370 4,371 1 0.02%
100-Coin Bag (D) 4,004 4,006 2 0.05%
Two-Roll Set 4,636 4,640 4 0.09%

2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,585 12,585
100-Coin Bag (P) 7,425 7,429 4 0.05%
100-Coin Bag (D) 4,615 4,616 1 0.02%
Two-Roll Set 5,877 5,882 5 0.09%

2023 Bessie Coleman Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,509 12,509
100-Coin Bag (P) 5,698 5,703 5 0.09%
100-Coin Bag (D) 4,987 4,990 3 0.06%
Two-Roll Set 6,041 6,048 7 0.12%

2022 Anna May Wong Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,617 7,617
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,860 1,860
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,858 1,858
Two-Roll Set 5,936 5,936

2022 Nina Otero-Warren Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,639 7,639
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,856 1,856
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,858 1,858
Two-Roll Set 5,890 5,890

2022 Wilma Mankiller Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,616 7,616
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,859 1,859
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,833 1,833
Two-Roll Set 5,918 5,918

2022 Dr. Sally Ride Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,603 7,603
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,854 1,854
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,852 1,852
Two-Roll Set 5,926 5,926

2022 Maya Angelou Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,588 7,588
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,858 1,858
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,861 1,861
Two-Roll Set 5,940 5,940

 

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Antonio

Inflation bites.

Major D

Indeed!

cagcrisp

Let’s See… Per the United States Mint’s Annual Report… FY2024 for the Mint’s category of Silver Coin Products: Units Sold = 1,852,000 Net Income = $50,600,000 Net Income/Unit Sold = $27.32 FY2023 for the Mint’s category of Silver Coin Products: Units Sold = 2,066,000 Net Income = $44,300,000 Net Income/Unit Sold = $21.44 So… Between FY2023 and FY2024 for the Mint’s category of Silver Coin Products… The United States Mint Decreased sales by 214,000 units or 10.4% (2,066,000 to 1,852,000) And… The United States Mint Increased Net Income by $6.3M or 14.2% ($44.3M to $50.6M) Unit Sales go Down and… Read more »

Major D

That’s because you’re spreading the profit among fewer units (coins). It doesn’t mean it’s more profitable overall.

You need to look at Net Margin, which measures how much profit (or net income) is earned as a percentage of overall revenue.

Question, what would you rather have: a 25.5% or a 24.8% profit margin?

2024-annual-report-26-crop
cagcrisp

Profit margins are based on revenue. I would Much rather have Real Net Income Increase vs. nominal Margin Increase…

cagcrisp

I’m not taking Revenue out of context. I’m taking Revenue as reported by the United States Mint’s Annual Report. Profit margin is a function of Revenue…

Major D

cagcrisp,

You didn’t answer my question: would you rather have a 25.5% or a 24.8% profit margin?

cagcrisp

Would you rather argue or learn?

E 1

Cag,

He is incorrigible and a poser. Don’t waste your time with him.

Thank you for your posts.

E1

cagcrisp

E 1

Thanks..

I keep thinking about the movie Dumb and Dumber…

E 1

Cag,

That’s too funny.

That hole kept getting deeper and deeper.

Cheers and Welcome Back!

cagcrisp

E 1

You would THINK someone that goes by Major would know something about digging a hole and at some point quit digging…

E 1

Cag,

I am convinced that he is not a Major in the Armed Services either.

Care to speculate on the “D” part?

Probably best to let it go.

Cheers

Major D

Still didn’t answer the question. H’mmm- wonder why you keep ducking it?

John Q. Coinage

Ventris and the mint, surviving on smoke and mirrors and raised annual prices since Ryder Tyme.
FHG she gaslighted most

Major D

Yes, Profit Margin = Revenue / Net Income.

Do you even know the difference between real and nominal income? So, it would be better to take the $44.3M net income earned in 2023 and adjust for inflation to today? Ok, but that will only increase the net margin compared to FY24.

Major D

My bad—- what I meant was Profit Margin = Net Income/ Revenue.

Oh well– but I will catch my mistakes and will take ownership of, and correct them, when I’m wrong.

John Q. Coinage

Unlike a certain USM spokesliar

REB

I have several degrees but none in accounting or finance; so, I will stay away from those subjects and watch from the sidelines. But, personally, I spent MUCH more this year on my proof collection. I assign several reasons: 1) there were 15 precious metals proof orders in 2024 vs. 10 in 2023; 2) of the 10 items that carried over from year to year, I paid roughly 8% more in 2024; 3) there were two commemoratives minted in 2024 (zero in 2023) which were priced nearly 6% more than 2022’s two commems; and 4) last but not least, The… Read more »

Rick

A no BS comment from a no BS guy.
Thanks for sharing your personal purchasing experiences from the USM.
It’s good to get some perspective from someone who actually buys products on a very regular basis. I don’t need a chart to understand what you’re presenting, so thanks for that too.
PS: I thought I heard some buzz about the FHG in ’23(for a ’25 Lib), but I could be wrong? Maybe that’s what you meant by “found”?
Rick

Last edited 23 days ago by Rick
REB

The FHG was certainly not on the Mint’s beginning-of-the-year product list. I remember when the L&B order period opened in February, our intrepid reporter (I think it was you but I may be mistaken) said Director Gibson at a coin show had suggested a “surprise” for later in the year. That was after being praised for her handling of the L&B. I hoped for another “advanced order” piece. Ultimately, I didn’t order any FHG from the Mint – I negotiated on eBay for one and bid with Stack’s Bowers for the other.

Rick

Yes, in March I spoke with Gibson on the L&B, and yes, she was right about a fall surprise. Did you get the FHG email from Stack’s? It’s very telling to me, and silly at the same time. This is exactly what happened with the non-privies. Dealers were buying them cheaply from weak flippers and the one-day-wonders who got through for a coin. There has been some recent dealer talk of at least two recent private sales to customers retailing at $60k for a 70 privy. And dealer to dealer trading approaching $50k for 70’s. Where does our lowly 69’s… Read more »

SBG-FHG-OFFER-marked
Rick

Here’s a teaser…
My Beauty……

MY-FHG-4
Craig

Wow, that is one beautiful autograph, you lucky dog!

REB

lol. Cruel, so cruel.

E 1

Yes, a highly sought after “American Women’s Autograph.” A double win. I think Ventris does read this blog.

REB

“I think Ventris does read this blog.”

If so, please Director Gibson, handle ALL gold releases like the L&B and mint to demand rather than fostering a wild greed and speculation fest akin to The Hunger Games. This nonsense puts off real collectors and makes them want to give up. Thank you for your consideration.

John Q. Coinage

REVERAND, nut I digress. Got recently a Koufax slabbed auto for $144, Topps That’s a deal.
and I was after a 1891cc $10, fleaBay auction waited to bid, great start the na$tard pulled it. Doesn’t matter I’ve bid on suc item and eBay lets sellers pull@:amy point before hammer

REB

I had a couple of nightmares like that on eBay. The 2019 Enhanced ASE was the worst. I could rant on and on about that one.

As for the Koufax – very, very cool. What a run of years he had in the 60s! And that was with a sore arm. If Tommy John surgery had existed then, he might have won 350-400 games and had more strikeouts than Nolan Ryan.

John Q. Coinage

She get a summary

Rick

Lolol thanks Craig,
She sure has better cursive than I I’ll gladly admit.
However, and lucky for me, I bought the coin, not the packaging. A coin that I, and REB(I suspect)proudly went in “Full Retail” for this coin. Why? Because we’d chosen to ‘collect the coin’, and know it for what it is. Make no mistake, the flippers, dealers, and cheapskates were sidelined very quickly that day, with a few exceptions obviously.
Since you enjoy OGP cardboard, clamshells, and autographs so much, I found something for you bud!…
https://www.ebay.com/itm/167243125940

Last edited 22 days ago by Rick
E 1

Rick,

She has a very legible signature. Handwriting analysis would suggest that she is honest. If she signs her last name in a very slight upward slope when compared to her first name, that suggests she respects her parents. I should take a better look at it. I have an FBI handwriting analysis book around here somewhere. Don’t worry, I don’t work for them.

Peace Out

REB

What the heck?!?!? She signed these extra (?) COAs for autograph collectors? Rick, did you get her autograph back in March when you saw her in person? You might have had a collector’s item then and didn’t even know it.

She appears to be a southpaw. Maybe that explains everything.

Rick

She was signing a bunch of COA’s for the upcoming womens proof quarters sets at the time, I passed because I would’ve had to buy one. I know-I know, they would be worth thousands today, oh well lol.

Craig

Thanks for the link, Rick! I have to admit it is rare indeed to be able to ‘read’ most autographs these days and you’re right…she has much better cursive than most (including me). But $399.99 for her autograph? I think I’ll buy a few more shares of Palantir stock instead. And in all seriousness, that Flowing Hair does look like a beauty! Cheers

Rick

Thanks Craig,
And who knows, now that Meta went Maga(a full 180)lol, maybe their stuff will start doing something again?…

E 1

Congratulations Rick.

That is a whale of a coin.

Still waiting on the book.

It is due to arrive Friday January 24th.

I hope to see that coin in there.

Cheers

Rick

Thank you E1,
It wasn’t easy, as I had to fess-up to my wife about it. But I assured her that I’d put the cash back into the pot(✓), and it will be hers someday. I chose to sacrifice my Green Box below to help soften the blow, oh well…
I also, am looking forward to the book! Mine is due on the 23’rd. But, they’re coming from Birmingham…
Beware, the book will ‘out you’ as being a Boorish Coin Snob!
What a joke you are!
Oh well…

2024-ASE-1
E 1

Rick,

I have a green monster box just like that one. But its empty. Poor coin slob might be more accurate.

Cheers

E 1

Rick,

Did you notice, Senza, oh, oh, I mean Kaiser – every one of his posts have been deleted from the system.

We are now entering a period of peace, enlightenment, and Jubilation.

Cheers

REB

You really do love to bully people, don’t you E 1?

Rick

Yes.
He told me to leave him alone.
So that’s what I did.

Last edited 22 days ago by Rick
REB

Yeah, I got the email, too. No thanks. Several people bought the coins for more than Stack’s is offering. Right now the rock-bottom price on eBay purchases appears to be in the 40-60K range.

Rick

Thanks for your feedback REB. Yes, the email is interesting and predictable, given the popularity of the FHG program as a whole. You are in great shape with your purchase(s). Take the compliments sincerely, and avoid the snarkiness that may, or may not come your way.
I’ve got some further thoughts & opinions about these coins & medals, but no hurry. Talk soon & congrats!
https://www.watchcount.com/sold/2024+Flowing+Hair+Gold+Privy+Coin/coins-paper-money_11116/all

John Q. Coinage

Kaiser? No mas??? Iron Cross no MAs..
hadnt noticed

Kenneth

Sorry I’m a little excited are these coins from the mint.
I would Love the chance to buy some.
Thank You

John Q. Coinage

I can’t yawn or ignore treated FHG cluster phuck 2.o….really Ventris zero…zero credibility profit before TRUTh. I personally used to spend between six and $10,000 a year. I started buying increment in 1968 is young so last year I spent… Zero. And, I have no interest in any milk products anymore and I will never, EVER by any current or recent issues or anything above issue price. For god sake’s the issue prices are ridiculous as it is. FHG shenanigans

John Q. Coinage

Dictation ☮️like a puzzle kid$

Rick

JQC, I get it, I’ve missed out on many hot items too. Just not as many as you. I guess I’m good at letting things like this go. If I really want it I need to bite the bullet & pay up. I try look at it this way. I buy most of my stuff from the Mint all the time, just not directly. And so do you, at multiples of original price, or face. Huge Premiums! Here’s a coin below that I paid a ridiculous premium on at 79,538 x face! Funny thing is? I thought it was a… Read more »

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E 1

Rick,

0.01 x 79,538 = $795.38

Is that what you paid for the coin?

Rick

Yes, I bought it via an auction win last April over at GC. I was actually prepared to pay 3+ times that amount, given the relative hype and my “obsession” with them at the time. It wasn’t a typical place for them to be sold/auctioned, like eBay is. It was quietly put up for sale, with quiet fanfare up until the end. Good for me? I tried to cross it to PCGS a while back(a gamble for top pop over there), but you know how they are in regards to a 68 grade, especially when crossed from ANACS. Perhaps a… Read more »

Last edited 21 days ago by Rick
John Q. Coinage

Thanks Rick, I started as a kid when a real circulated $20 could be had for $48. I just felt disrespected and manipulated fromthe USM, As I’ve said b4I told everyone I know about the enhanced Rev. ASE, ONLY 1 got it my friend on Maui. It was another crappy BS try by me, the. The V75. No Ag or Au, then the Ty1 & 2 AgeAse conversion coins. Then searches of like $600 of quarters yield 2 Lowell Ws. Pd a few time but I got the ‘18 for a price maybe I could sell for. Then insufficient AEPd… Read more »

E 1

Well, it’s a $1,500 coin and when the 100 GUSMC 5th edition arrives this week, it will most likely grow legs.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/405410375886

Cheers

Rick

Thanks E,
I think I was composing above while you were posting!
Anyway, as usual with regards to this coin, I think you are correct.

John Q. Coinage

I could give a poop Cag, I fired the mint I just don’t care credibility of a gypsy

cagcrisp

Correlation does Not equal Causation…

Major D

This suggests (or may lead someone to believe) that any inferences about causation from correlation are wrong or not logical. Rather, I’d say Correlation may not imply Causation. However, Causation always implies Correlation.

cagcrisp

You need to take a course in Logic.

As well as an accounting course…

Last edited 23 days ago by cagcrisp
Major D

cagcrisp,

I have many under my belt (and degrees). When you can’t debate someone, you insult them- is that it?

cagcrisp

No. Not at all. I have an accounting/economics degree. Understand cost accounting and taught Business Statistics on the university level.

You need to take an accounting course. No joke. I don’t care how many degrees you have. They are NOT in accounting or economics…

cagcrisp

Or Logic…

E 1

Thank you Cag.

Major D

So do I, Bus, Math, Science and Eng degrees. Logic in all of them.

cagcrisp

I’d ask for a refund on the money spent on the Bus and Math part…

E 1

I told you.

cagcrisp

“Mr Bessent: Senator, 100 time out of 100 times I would rather have $194 Million in income vs. $2.235 Billion in seigniorage…”

You could ask 100 financial experts that “understand” seigniorage and all 100 financial experts would give the exact same answer..

cagcrisp

I added the line about “understand “.

(Obviously the two that commented on my post do Not Understand the worth of seigniorage vs. the worth of Net Income …)

Major D

It’s not a question of “understanding” seigniorage, but rather of understanding the complex workings of our money supply and the national debt. Seigniorage is a powerful tool in the Gov’s financial arsenal. How, when, and under what circumstances its wielded is highly debatable, and highly political. But I guarantee that not all experts will agree.

cagcrisp

Seigniorage is a powerful tool in the Gov’s financial arsenal”

That is a complete Joke.

Seigniorage is a non budgetary item and as such can’t be “spent” in any sense of a financial matter…

Major D

So, when the Gov prints more money, that isn’t real and can’t be spent? That tells me everything about you and where you’re coming from.

John Q. Coinage

When I go two Mexico I am Seniorrich

Rick

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DAVESWFL

Oops! New thread … my thoughts are the last comment in the previous thread (Hope one) FWIW

Major D

DAVESWFL,

Fine by me- I’ll comply.

But first a question for everyone who has cancelled or reduced their Mint subscriptions: Is it because of the price increases?

DaveSWFL

In my case, ABSOLUTELY due to absurd premiums. I’m just happy I have a substantial stash already built. Feeling sorry for the younger generation who will fall victim to the extreme profiteering. Learned my lesson in the Modern Commemorative School of Hard Knocks.
I only buy at or very close to spot. Last mint PM foolishness for me was the original Peace dollar ripoff.

John Q. Coinage

Yes, PLUS shenanigans, ridiculous BS like the FHG, insider deals, USM LIES and non credibility, price as well. Used to be able to make money now you don’t even get a feel around whe Ventris or Ryder f’s ya…
THE MINT IS DEAD TO ME AS TO BUYING ANY. EW CRAP…love to bytch though

cagcrisp

I posted this on MNB on January 24, 2024….

“There Used to be a time on MNB when if someone did Not know something they just did Not post.
Now they just make stuff up and post anyhow…”

DaveSWFL

Cag,
This isn’t Harvard. It’s an opinion blog. We all know this. Just accept it and enjoy. Life is short.

HarryB

@cag: I have truly missed your presence….. I treasure your clever portfolio management techniques which you freely share, and analysis of commodity markets globally…..

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Cag,

I’ve made thousands from your advise. Thank You.

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Rick,

I’ve learned a great deal from you too. Thank You as well.

Live and learn together.

Peace out

cagcrisp

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Thanks…

REB

… and I’ve made hundreds of thousands without a single bit of advice from any of you. But I still like learning and I’m open to listening to all with equiminity and grace. Sometimes it’s easier to see the money on the ground when one’s head isn’t in the clouds or somewhere else less lofty.

Craig

Same here REB, and I sense I’ll make a lot more without a single bit of ‘advice’ from any of these posts. I wonder why Kaiser deleted all of his comments?

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VinnieC

I’m not sure how to even delete a post. I tried to figure out when I thought I posted at a wrong level and tried to promote or demote a reply (i.e. 1st comment, reply, reply to a reply, etc.)

cagcrisp

HarryB

Thanks…

Rick

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From Philosophy 60 – Logic and Reasoning The Fallacies of Logical Reasoning: Fallacy of Ad Hominem – To attack the arguer instead of the argument. To commit the Ad Hominem Fallacy is only applicable when an expert witness is giving testimony. Fallacy of Appeal to Authority – To accept the argument because of the arguers position of authority. e.g. Dictatorship or Socialism. Fallacy of Appeal to Good Intentions – To accept the argument because the arguers intentions are good. e.g. Gullible Fallacy of Appeal to Popularity – To accept the argument because it is accepted by the majority. e.g. Lynch Mob Fallacy of Appeal… Read more »

Rick

E1,

Fallacy of the Straw Man Attack – To construe or distort the argument in order to attack it. It is easier to attack a straw man than a real man. e.g. Distortion.”

“Distortion”

That is the the “D” part. So rest easy my friend.

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REB

Alright, I have a question for the group after a little background. As some of you know, I’m trying to assemble a collection of A first and last coin from each of the southern mints after I visit the site. I visited New Orleans many years ago when I bought 1838 and 1909 dimes. They were nothing fancy—just a souvenir. I have visited Dahlonega and checked out the museum and the mint site. I’m in and out of Charlotte quite a bit but I’ve yet to visit any museum or see the site of the old mint. As you know… Read more »

VinnieC

I tend to avoid detail graded coins because of the stigma attached to them. They tend to price at one grade less for slabbed coins (i.e. AU—>XF (EF)) However I do have a few Draped Bust cent and half cent that are detail graded (cleaned, environmental damage, scratched, etc.) I wouldn’t say you are throwing you money down the toilet. Just know what it is worth. I it is for a collection rather than an investment it seem to matter less. Interesting enough I got a ANACS slabbed cleaned Morgan $ as a sample to help me distinguish between a… Read more »

REB

Thanks for the insights, VinnieC. I’ll be traveling through Charlotte in February. I thought I might take in the sights – the location of the old mint and the Mint Museum which was built from the bricks of the old mint. I’m thinking about checking out the two-day coin show while in Charlotte and trying to see some of the coins I want in person. Does anyone else have any experience with the Charlotte show? Is it a worthwhile use of some down time? Is there a decent possibility that they’ll have any/all of the coins I’m after? Feel free… Read more »

Rick

REB, I’ve heard(read) some good things about the Charlotte show. With 100+ dealers you should have plenty to look at and enjoy the atmosphere. There’s bound to be some guys that have what you’re looking for(D & C). Some larger shows have a dealer list, and you can contact them for info and coins you’re interested in. Then they can check their network of dealer buddies to help in your search. You’re a serious coin collector, those are NOT cheap! Good luck with the 1861-D yikes, it qualifies as Rare! I’d say you qualify for the AU market, given your… Read more »

Rick
REB

Rick: Thanks for the leads and information. I could probably go AU but I’d be fine with a decent XF. I was reading a book from 2013 last night about the Dahlonega coins. The author gave a count of each coin in each grade. The 1861-D was at 75-100 TOTAL specimens! He also said that many/most of the coins (both 1838 & 1861) had been cleaned and scratched at some point in their life. So, I’m not sure that will be as much of a “thing” with these coins. It was interesting reading the contrasts between the quality of the… Read more »

Rick

REB, “There’s bound to be some guys that have what you’re looking for(D & C)” This was speculation on my part, based on the assumption that some dealers will bring them to the region. They may have some C & D coins, but not necessarily in the years/grades that you desire? It will be worth the time going there regardless. Talk to dealers about what you’re looking for, take their business card, and leave them yours, you never know. They can help you with your quest. Most enjoy their job. It would be money well spent for you and your… Read more »

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Rick

REB(anyone),
Speaking of a ‘quest’…
Take a look at this fellow “PeakRarities”(aka Deplorable Dan)with his account on a coin purchase in regards to that dilemma that we all face when we want a certain special coin.
He’s a coin dealer and a collector of “Pioneer coins”, another fascinating and historic series of early private Mint coinage.
He is very well spoken & knowledgeable with the dealing & collecting of coins. Don’t forget his reply comments, they are also a good read.(2 pages)…
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1103516/an-irrational-purchase-and-a-walk-through-my-stream-of-consciousness/p1

Rick

PS: clicking on the link of Dan’s “CSNS Report” within his story is also a good read. He has some spectacular Pioneer Gold.

REB

Thanks for the link, Rick. I enjoyed reading the story of his quest. He bought a real beauty. I plan to keep my mind open in the Queen City. I might focus on the NC coins while in NC and the GA coins when I’m next in Hotlanta. Obviously, if a great deal falls into my lap, well …. I feel I’m developing an additional interest in the 1936 Columbia, South Carolina Sesquicentennial Half Dollar set (P, D, and S) with the original holder. I used to work in the “Famously Hot” city. Maybe that will be my next eclectic… Read more »

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VinnieC

I did my last reply at the wrong nesting level. I just wanted to say the AKB and CAG have a similar discussion going on later in this thread if you didn’t notice. These are all way out of my ballpark but the discussion is interesting. Now I’ve got to figure out what pioneer coins are. I want to go to FUN, but usually January is buy with just coming off of Christmas and CES. Summer is miserable in FL for the 2nd show. I keep on checking the ANA shows and they are not anywhere close to me: Atlanta,… Read more »

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John Q. Coinage

For like 20:years I’ve sought out Au58 PCGS or NGC slabs with coins with wear only little contact marks or dings. Nice luster, IMO P has loosened it standards for 19th Cent material, seeems like cleaned stuff gets thru if not a wiz like buff or clearly a funky color, e.g. Pink copper…
In looking I found this as well, a nice 50c 50:

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John Q. Coinage

The rear end….

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JQC,

I haven’t gotten that far down into the half dollars. With “Arrows & Rays,” a nice money coin. With “No Arrows” a big time money coin. That puppy is old.

Thank you for sharing

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Here you go JQC. Exactly one hundred years later. Just came in last week. This one is Eisenhower old. But yours is Abraham Lincoln old. I just love half dollars.

Cheers

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Rick

Nice cameo contrast E1. Very nice pick-up✓

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Thanks Rick,

Scratched holder and needs a dip = lower price.

Might come back a 6.

The 1954 Cameo I got isn’t bad either. It was already cracked out and dipped. It should grade well.

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Rick

Nice coin J,
Well John & E1, now word is out that NGC may have gotten tougher on grading again? Maybe it depends on what it is they’re looking at too? Basically a TPG reset is occuring due to the CAC effect?
Depending on where your preferences and loyalties lie, this is either good or bad for flipping/investing I suppose.
Crack & re-subs are just another day at the office(and big $$) for the gradeflation markets anymore…

Rick

Here is an interesting tale of two coins that I’ve discovered while researching coins for my 8 coin Kennedy Silver Short Set the other day.(1964-1970 Silver)

Are we sure that we’re talking about two coins here?

#1 Coin) GC auction on 1/14/24 we have a 1969-D Kennedy Half up for grabs. A nice toned PCGS MS66 had hammered for $447 bucks.

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Rick

#2 Coin) GC auction on 5/26/24 we have a 1969-D Kennedy Half up for grabs. A nice toned PCGS MS67+ had hammered for $5,063 bucks…
Wow.
So, buy a coin, crack & re-submit/reconsider the grade and laugh all the way to the bank 4 months later?
What do we have here?
1) Under-grade?
2) Gradeflation?
3) Luck?
4) Intuition?
5) All of the above?

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Rick

I wish I had been in the market for the coin in January of ’24.
Wow.
The MS66 went several hundred dollars past it’s online price guide at the time, and for good reason it seems.

Rick

Sorry JQC, I didn’t mean to break-up your coin presentation.
Very nice seated Lib anyway!

REB

This story gives me even less confidence in graded coins. Are there any set standards across grading services? Gradeflation just sounds like scamming to fleece collectors.

Rick

⇊⇊ MY REPLY DOWN BELOW ⇊⇊ Got spammed up here.

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Rick,

I have a bunch of those in superb condition. The Kennedy Silver Short Set. I think you’re on to something. I should revisit my old boxes. Looks like more new found money.

Thanks Rick and nice toning.

Cheers

Rick

Yes, it’s an easier set to assemble, that’s what I like. I’m tweaking mine to be a PCGS set with some level of toning, and in the higher grades.
They’re tougher to get, like that upgraded example above(not mine), but the challenge makes it fun.
I’ll bet you have at least one GEM Silver Short Set in the “back-up Box”! Probably more.

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Rick, That is why I would……. 1. Buy an NGC graded Cameo Bengi, but I would never submit one to them. The cameo dance. NGC Cameo ✰ W = PCGS DCAM. 2. I would buy an NGC graded FBL Bengi, but I would never submit one to them. Two full sets of FBLs vs. one full set of FBLs. PCGS MS FBL vs NGC MS. It is not that one is any better than the other, it is just that the attribute acceptance criteria is different between the two. If either TPG wanted to do something significant, they would establish… Read more »

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My Cameo Benji set will probably go to CAC.

Rick

Yes, I remember you talking about that, the FBL and the TPG differences. I also heard(read) of someone else talking about the Walker hand(thumb)as being an indicator of a superb strike. Thanks for sharing your knowledge E1…

VinnieC

@JQC Nice!!!. I started with a unslabbed G 1853 A&R 50c and have only made it up to a ANACS VF30. For the 1853 A&R quarter I made it up to a ANACS XF40 (EF?).

VinnieC

I tried finding a dealer list for the Charlotte show but they didn’t seem to post one. I didn’t get a lot of hits on local dealers in that area. Presumably many of them will show. I would say unless your extremely pressed for time It couldn’t hurt. They posted some pictures of past events and it looks a lot bigger than my local show.

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VinnieC, I could use a good show myself. They used to have the Northern California Santa Clara Show every year at the convention center. But, they stopped it. It was a major show and I would go every year. I looked forward to it every time it came to town and it was convenient. Now my only option today is Long Beach. That would require me to jump in the old beater, drive down through long beach hell, stay in a M6, BYOB, and don’t forget to bring the wad. Flying to Orlando for the FUN show in the winter… Read more »

VinnieC

@E1 I’m not sure is the Sacramento Coin Show is any good. One of the attendees (McIntosh Coins https://mcintoshcoins.com/) at some of my local shows come up from that way always has flyers for that one. I think it still is a small show. I have family in SoCal so Long Beach is easier. I just have to face the fact that I don’t have enough vacation — The show isn’t scheduled usually when I plan to visit. I went to the ANA show once in Rosemont, IL one by justifying that I was also going to see the Chicago… Read more »

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VinnieC,

I have not been to the Sacramento Show. Maybe I should look for it. It’s a two hour drive each way and there is plenty of hotels.

Thanks

VinnieC

Be warned Sacramento might be small enough that that it might not warrant an overnight stay. I’ve bought stuff from McIntosh Coins in the SLC shows, but I know nothing else about the show. Here is McIntosh’s attendance Schedule:
https://mcintoshcoins.com/Index_files/Page2305.htm

VinnieC

Also I don’t know if these shows attract good dealers but they should be closer so you can take a look:
https://norcalcoinshows.com/sunnyvale-coin-show/march-2020/discount-coupon/

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Thanks Vince.

I book marked it.

Kia99

…staying on topic! I notice the US Mint isn’t the only one issuing reproductions of their old coins. I see on ebay 1928 (and others dates) Peace Dollars $18.89 each, 3 available, 41 sold, 1 positive feedback. Straight from china.

REB

Wow.

John Q. Coinage

And pure potmetal….magnetic even!,,

REB

lol

cagcrisp

It Appears …

One poster is Gone…

Not just this Thread…

All Threads…

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Cag,

Some of the stuff he was posting late last night on the previous page was pretty threatening. That may explain the extraction. Someone up above may have decided to deal with it and rightfully so.

Peace Out

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I can’t find any of Senza’s posts in the archive anymore either. They were there three days ago.

John Q. Coinage

Awe we traded him to Coin World blog….Cag upgrade though I believe in the free marketplace of IDEA$

AKBob

Mr Cag, One down, a couple more……. to GO! Hate to see Him Go,…….Thank God!! 😉 Some folks are just over the Top, mean and/or nasty! This is no place for folks like that! Politics, religion, etc should be discussed somewhere else, it just gets too many peoples dander up and next thing you know the knives are flying! Many of us would like to talk about those things but it’s just too volatile of subjects. Name calling should never be used to Win a discussion/argument, regardless if it’s about Coins, Politics or Religion! When you resort to name calling,… Read more »

cagcrisp

AKBob, Good hearing from you… ” Question: Should I purchase lower graded ones and/or should I purchase ones with “Details”? I can only afford MS63 or lower mostly. There seems to be a great deal of the older gold coins that have been cleaned. I just don’t know enough about the Pre ‘33 gold coins and deciding at what grade to purchase is difficult to determine. I like to buy the highest grade I can afford (which isn’t very high grades) and gold coins which have an upside/legs to go up in value. I’m still learning about gold coins and my… Read more »

AKBob

Mr Cag, Thank you for your suggestions! I’ve been accidentally doing exactly what you recommended. I’ve been purchasing $2.50 & $5.00 gold coins, mostly MS62/63. I try to stay away from ungraded coins because I’m afraid of ending up with a fake/counterfeit coin. I was looking at some $1 coins but I just couldn’t quite pull the trigger, they seemed expensive for little gold. I’d like to eventually purchase at least one example of each denomination tho. No hurry as there’s plenty of ones I can purchase. I’ve been selling my Silver off, $40K this past year and I’ve been… Read more »

cagcrisp

AKBob, Alaska is an opt in community property state. IF your marriage is stable… …consider opting in for community property for your Gold. Tax wise it could be very helpful at the demise of the first spouse (You or your wife). (You have posted that your wife isn’t into coins so my Assumption would be that she could liquidate your collection if you passed first) Consider the following example: A cost basis of a Gold collection is $50,000. The Gold collection has a FMV of $150,000 at the time of death of the first spouse (You or your wife). Non… Read more »

AKBob

Mr Cag,

That sounds like some great advise! How do I “opt” in to be eligible? I’m all over this but I have no idea how to go about doing this. Any assistance on the “how to” would be greatly appreciated! Will I need an attorney or Financial expert to do this? Is it something you put in your will? I’m clueless, lol, as I’m sure you can already tell! 😉

cagcrisp

AKBob,

Just do a search of “Alaska community property agreement “. ..

John Q. Coinage

Agree w Cag pass on”details” as the upside is basically Ltd. To Au factor. Unless, it’s scarce. $5 s are pricey compared to say circ $20s or 21/2$. I like the $10 Liberty. Don’t even have a $1 Au. Many early $2 1/2 w the 0 mm. Look for even slabbed Au coins with very light wear and No major contact marks or chatter in the field….
Good Luck and Good hunting

John Q. Coinage

Another reason for aloha to buying from USM selling a highly Ltd. Item in bulk. And of course the denied sale of approx 2,000+/- FHG so the bulkers and APs could have the pre graded slabbed and ready to jack up the price…..did,the mint give away orofit# yes, seems to go against their mantra, leaf money onthe table. Watch Ave tris You Tube video, she’s basically a coin ‘fluffer” when there is no coins for YOU, ME or ?

Rick

REB, spamed again. I’ll try to post it here. My response to the 1969-D Kennedy Upgrade posted up above.. Scamming to fleece? I don’t know, it seems an overly broad assumption in this case. There are set standards across grading services, and those standards differ between the individual TPG’s to varying degrees, and purposely so to express that individuality, not to mention a bottom line. They all adhere to their own rules ‘more or less’. However standards can, and do change within said TPG over time. This is where subjectivity comes into play, always does. I’m about to ‘retire’ for… Read more »

REB

It’s the same damn coin, Rick. One label slapped on a plastic holder makes it worth ten times what another label says? That should strike anyone as unsettling at best and fraudulent at worst. Remember again, it’s the SAME DAMN COIN! It’s akin to pasting a Rothschild sticker on a bottle of Gallo to see the price increase exponentially. In some quarters that would be legal fraud. In the coin-grading world, it’s a-okay. I’m stunned that the players in coin collecting aren’t more outraged by this. I presume most settle for “There are set standards across grading services, and those… Read more »

Rick

REB, I agree with you in the overall! My presentation above in regards to a coin upgrade has, and will always be a part of the industry, love it or hate it. It’s a never ending debate and I’ll gladly stand aside on that one. I was simply highlighting the varying scrutiny that the coin may, or may not have been subject to *at two very different points in time, *from two very different grading crews. That coin is a prime example of a grading dilemma that these guys face from time to time. You & I are not graders,… Read more »

Rick

REB, As an aside, and talk about “subjectivity”… I have looked at a Minimum of 100 FHG Privy coins via the 2D hi-rez TruView photos provided before jumping in. Including your coin, #3. There are at least a Dozen coins in 70-DCAM that barely hold up to your 69-DCAM as far as flaws, debris, and overall are concerned. Your coin could easily pass for a 70 given what I’ve seen in those ‘Subjects’. But who am I lol?.. Here’s a good example below. It’s a zoom shot of an obverse area on coin #4, the very next coin behind yours.… Read more »

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REB

How did they know that guy’s name was TY?

Seriously, I’ve got no problem with the coin. 69 or 70 doesn’t matter as I’ll likely never part with the coin. My wife & kids may be a different story.

What do you think? Should I crack it open and have it regraded?

Kidding, Rick. Just kidding.

Rick

C’mon…You’re no fun!
I’m considering it(reholder), only because the thing was mistreated by SBG I think. It has some distracting scratch/scuffs right up front. A couple are deeper than the typical hairline types. It’s a peeve. Maybe I’ll polish it? It may just go to the Green Shop instead, but no hurry. Not an immediate priority either way…

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REB

I really don’t have a dog in this fight (it’s not actually a fight – more like a numismatic bewilderment exercise). The FHG Privy is the first slabbed coin I’ve owned. Of course, that could change with my Dahlohega dalliances & Charlotte curiosities, as well as and my Columbia Sesqui interest. I filled in gaps in my proof collection when slabbing wasn’t a big deal (in the ’80s); when the coins I was after weren’t viewed as “investments” worthy of cracking them out of their packaging; or when they’ve been pre-slabbed new from eBay (the FHG non-Privy, for example). I… Read more »

Rick

Well said, REB.

sharks2th

Rick and Reb, I agree with All of the above. That Kennedy appears to be over graded in my opinion. It appears to me to be the exact, same coin. It has toning which is eventually going to damage the silver surface (these are 40% Silver). It also appears to be an album “slider” due to the surface scratches. The reverse is really bad looking, even if struck that way. I’d say it is probably album toning, but it does look suspicious. The toning around the edge of the reverse gives some indication of album storage, probably one of the… Read more »

REB

Very informative, sharks. Thanks.

I talked with a friend today and he said that 40% silver coins are more prone to toning/corrosion. I haven’t had that problem yet but all that I own have stayed entombed in their original Mint packaging.

Rick

Thanks Shark!

VinnieC

This is sort of on a subject separate from the rest. I got a nice shiny 2017-S George Rogers Clark quarter in change today. It looked to be in pretty good condition so it has not been in circulation long. Some one broke open one of their S-rolls and spent it. I missed the days when you could buy S-rolls individually.

John Q. Coinage

Agree, I have many but did not want to be a hostage required to buy 3 to get the one O want. Most of the S bags are very nice P/L strikes.
GO RAMS…..

REB

I used to love the Rams back in the day. I had an autographed photo of Roman Gabriel assuring me that “A Champion Gives 110%”. I also went to 5th through 7th grade with a girl (Inga) who was a close relative of running back Les Josephson. She was nice and pretty. I believe her family was from Iceland. I think I heard that she became a supermodel and later married a gazillionaire.

GO RAMS, indeed.

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John Q. Coinage

Close but no cigar…..
there used to be a Gabriel Olsen Porsche dealership

John Q. Coinage

PCGS had [$till has?] a grading and counterfeit detection guide- and there was a coupon for a free slabbing

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“A blog is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you’re gonna get.”

Antonio

I’m pretty tired, I think I’ll go home now. 😀

Gary

Anyone ever have this problem with their Mint account. It said My password was invalid. I tried several times to put in a new password but it always says invalid. I complained to the Mint and they said to put in my ID on the link. Well, when I go to their link it does NOT ask me for my ID. It asks me for my email address and password. I put in a new password, it says successfully changed but when I go back in there it says invalid again. I sent them another email and told them if… Read more »