US Mint Sales: 2023 Palladium Eagle Reaches 3,683

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US Mint image 2023-W $25 Uncirculated American Palladium Eagle
U.S. Mint product image for their 2023-W $25 Uncirculated American Palladium Eagle

Two flagship numismatic products for the year, the 2023 Proof Set and the 2023 Silver Proof Set, were the U.S. Mint’s top weekly sellers through Sept. 10, with their newly launched coin from last week, the 2023-W $25 Uncirculated American Palladium Eagle, ranking third.

Released Sept. 7 for $2,150, the uncirculated Palladium Eagle recorded four-day started sales of 3,683, representing 61.4% of its maximum 6,000 mintage.

A direct comparison of American Palladium Eagle sales over the years wouldn’t be fair, as the series has deliberately undergone several changes, including the introduction of the bullion coin in 2017, the proof coin in 2018, the reverse proof coin in 2019, and even the very first uncirculated coin in 2020, each offered at varying price points. That said, the 2020 uncirculated Palladium Eagle, with an opening price of $3,000, achieved four-day starting sales of 9,971.

U.S. Mint Top Sellers

Here is the roster of the U.S. Mint’s most sought-after numismatic products for the week concluding on Sept. 10:

  1. 2023 Proof Set (+10,332 to 269,849)
  2. 2023 Silver Proof Set (+5,617 to 150,859)
  3. 2023-W Uncirculated American Palladium Eagle (+3,683)
  4. 2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (+2,490 to 310,848)
  5. 2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (+2,049 to 287,636)
  6. 2023-W Proof Silver Eagle (+1,236 to 427,644)
  7. 2023-P American Liberty Silver Medal (+619 to 25,160)
  8. 2022 Mint Set (+561 to 239,895)
  9. 2023-W Uncirculated Silver Eagle (+554 to 128,507)
  10. 2023 American Women Quarters Proof Set (+309 to 48,354)

In its latest report, the U.S. Mint published sales data for 355 numismatic products.

Among these products, 40 outperformed their sales from the previous week, compared to 75 in the prior report. Not counting the new product, 5 products experienced an increase of more than 1,000 units, against 3 in the previous report.

Meanwhile, there were 9 products that saw negative weekly sales, the same as 9 previously. The notables included the 2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar, which fell by 85, and each of the new 2023 quarter ornaments, with each falling by more than 325.

US Mint Sales: Numismatic Products

Below are tables showing the latest available sales for U.S. Mint numismatic products. The sales period covers from Sept. 4 to 10. Products with an asterisk (*) are no longer available or had no reported sales.

Morgan & Peace Silver Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar 308,358 310,848 2,490 0.81%
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 443 443
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar 285,587 287,636 2,049 0.72%
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 438 438
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar 260,709 260,624 -85 -0.03%
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 330 330
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar 258,872 258,871 -1 0.00%
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 338 338

Armed Forces Silver Medals

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
U.S. Army 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,988 9,988
U.S. Marine Corps 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,576 9,576
U.S. Navy 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,987 9,987
U.S. Coast Guard 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,955 9,955
U.S. Air Force 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,953 9,953
U.S. Navy 1 Ounce Silver Medal 17,116 17,221 105 0.61%
U.S. Coast Guard 1 Ounce Silver Medal 16,677 16,710 33 0.20%
U.S. Air Force 1 Ounce Silver Medal 18,299 18,354 55 0.30%

American Liberty Products

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 10,797 10,950 153 1.42%
2023-P American Liberty Silver Medal 24,541 25,160 619 2.52%
2022-P American Liberty Silver Medal 73,081 73,189 108 0.15%
2021-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 12,471 12,471
2019-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 24,609 24,609
2019-P American Liberty Silver Medal 44,928 44,928
2018-W $10 American Liberty Gold Coin 56,632 56,681 49 0.09%
2017 American Liberty Silver Four-Medal Set* 32,647 32,647
2017-S Enhanced Uncirculated Coin Set* 210,419 210,419
2017-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 38,857 38,866 9 0.02%
2017-P Proof American Liberty Silver Medal* 55,187 55,187

Clad Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023 Proof Set 259,517 269,849 10,332 3.98%
2022 Proof Set 399,950 399,950
2021 Proof Set 512,608 512,608
2020 Proof Set* 464,658 464,658
2019 Proof Set* 601,327 601,327
2018 Proof Set* 517,081 517,081
2017 Proof Set* 568,678 568,678
2022 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 76,408 76,476 68 0.09%
2021 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 84,492 84,497 5 0.01%
2020 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 107,052 107,052
2019 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 146,534 146,575 41 0.03%
2023 American Women Quarters Proof Set 48,045 48,354 309 0.64%
2022 American Women Quarters Proof Set* 42,821 42,821
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* 64,242 64,242
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set 83,589 83,638 49 0.06%
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* 86,697 86,697

Silver Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023 Silver Proof Set 145,242 150,859 5,617 3.87%
2022 Silver Proof Set 244,688 244,853 165 0.07%
2021 Silver Proof Set 301,007 301,064 57 0.02%
2020 Silver Proof Set* 313,183 313,183
2019 Silver Proof Set* 412,708 412,708
2018 Silver Proof Set* 332,274 332,274
2018 Silver Reverse Proof Set* 199,116 199,116
2023 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 41,778 41,967 189 0.45%
2022 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 57,674 57,675 1 0.00%
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 64,012 64,012
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 78,585 78,585
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 79,301 79,301
2023 Congratulations Gift Set 38,072 38,258 186 0.49%
2022 Congratulations Gift Set 29,710 29,710
2021 Congratulations Gift Set* 39,997 39,997
2020 Congratulations Gift Set* 24,468 24,468
2019 Congratulations Gift Set* 31,638 31,638
2022 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 47,499 47,637 138 0.29%
2021 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 48,712 48,712
2020 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* 50,061 50,061

US Mint Uncirculated Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2022 Uncirculated Mint Set 239,334 239,895 561 0.23%
2021 Uncirculated Mint Set 224,488 224,627 139 0.06%
2020 Uncirculated Mint Set* 211,787 211,787
2019 Uncirculated Mint Set* 346,117 346,117
2018 Uncirculated Mint Set* 257,536 257,536
2017 Uncirculated Mint Set* 286,813 286,813

Kids Coin Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2019 Youth Coin and Currency Set 24,882 24,882
2019 Explore and Discover Coin Set 41,904 41,938 34 0.08%
2019 Rocketship* 49,921 49,921
2014 Coin Discovery Set* 13,151 13,151

Ornaments

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2022 U.S. Mint Ornament 5,402 5,410 8 0.15%
2022 Mighty Minters Ornament 3,930 3,939 9 0.23%
2023 Bessie Coleman Ornament 1,346 989 -357 -26.52%
2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Ornament; 1,419 1,073 -346 -24.38%
2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Ornament 1,570 1,240 -330 -21.02%
2023 Jovita Idar Ornament 1,340 997 -343 -25.60%
2023 Maria Tallchief Ornament 1,341 1,001 -340 -25.35%
2022 Maya Angelou Ornament 3,013 3,019 6 0.20%
2022 Dr. Sally Ride Ornament 3,099 3,106 7 0.23%
2022 Wilma Mankiller Ornament 2,153 2,161 8 0.37%
2022 Nina Otero-Warren Ornament 1,754 1,757 3 0.17%
2022 Anna May Wong Ornament 3,110 3,115 5 0.16%
2021 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,821 4,821
2021 U.S. Mint Ornament 7,783 7,788 5 0.06%
2020 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,471 4,473 2 0.04%
2020 U.S. Mint Ornament 6,503 6,508 5 0.08%
2019 Mighty Minters Ornament 7,001 7,003 2 0.03%
2019 U.S. Mint Ornament 11,705 11,709 4 0.03%

Proof & Reverse Proof Silver Eagles

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2022-S Proof Silver Eagle 199,665 199,665
2022-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 2,925 2,925
2023-W Proof Silver Eagle 426,408 427,644 1,236 0.29%
2023-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 2,119 2,119
2022-W Proof Silver Eagle 496,992 496,992
2022-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 4,107 4,107
2021 Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle Two-Coin Set* 124,881 124,881
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* 199,580 199,580
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 652 652
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* 300,096 300,096
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 2,142 2,142
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1* 299,895 299,895
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 686 686

Uncirculated Silver Eagles

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023 127,953 128,507 554 0.43%
2022 159,998 159,998
2022 Bulk 40 987 987
2021* 174,470 174,470
2021 Bulk 40* 324 324

2023 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 6,441 6,440 -1 -0.02%
1/2 oz 1,997 1,997
1/4 oz 4,474 4,474
1/10 oz 13,154 13,328 174 1.32%
4-Coin Set 8,940 8,940

2022 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 5,913 5,913
1/2 oz 1,970 1,970
1/4 oz 4,464 4,464
1/10 oz 13,803 13,803
4-Coin Set 9,905 9,905

Uncirculated American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023 4,946 4,986 40 0.81%
2022 8,845 8,845
2021* 8,914 8,914
2020* 6,284 6,284
2019* 5,851 5,851
2018* 8,518 8,518
2017* 5,800 5,800

Proof American Buffalo Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023 Proof Gold Buffalo 12,499 12,571 72 0.58%
2022 Proof Gold Buffalo 15,938 15,938
2021 Proof Gold Buffalo* 16,958 16,958
2020 Proof Gold Buffalo* 11,887 11,887
2019 Proof Gold Buffalo* 14,844 14,844
2018 Proof Gold Buffalo* 15,756 15,756
2017 Proof Gold Buffalo* 15,810 15,810

Proof American Platinum Eagle

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023 7,792 7,822 30 0.39%
2022 9,920 9,920
2021 9,884 9,884
2020 9,825 9,825
2019 11,268 11,268
2018 16,042 16,047 5 0.03%
2017* 8,890 8,890

American Palladium Eagle

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023-W Uncirculated 3,683
2022-W Reverse Proof 7,360 7,361 1 0.01%
2021-W Proof 5,170 5,170
2020-W Uncirculated 9,742 9,742
2019-W Reverse Proof 18,775 18,775
2018-W Proof* 14,986 14,986

Presidential Silver Medals

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023 Andrew Johnson Presidential Silver Medal 11,841 11,877 36 0.30%
2023 Abraham Lincoln Presidential Silver Medal 17,704 17,740 36 0.20%
2023 James Buchanan Presidential Silver Medal 11,983 11,997 14 0.12%
2021 Franklin Pierce Presidential Silver Medal 12,361 12,367 6 0.05%
2022 Millard Fillmore Presidential Silver Medal 12,511 12,516 5 0.04%
2022 Zachary Taylor Presidential Silver Medal 12,886 12,887 1 0.01%
2022 James Knox Polk Presidential Silver Medal 13,122 13,125 3 0.02%
2021 John Tyler Presidential Silver Medal 13,533 13,537 4 0.03%
2021 William Henry Harrison Presidential Silver Medal 13,470 13,474 4 0.03%
2021 Martin Van Buren Presidential Silver Medal 13,619 13,622 3 0.02%
2020 Andrew Jackson Presidential Silver Medal 16,516 16,522 6 0.04%
2019 John Quincy Adams Presidential Silver Medal 14,644 14,650 6 0.04%
2019 James Monroe Presidential Silver Medal 15,157 15,167 10 0.07%
2019 James Madison Presidential Silver Medal 16,736 16,750 14 0.08%
2019 Thomas Jefferson Presidential Silver Medal 23,944 23,957 13 0.05%
2018 George Washington Presidential Silver Medal 34,782 34,794 12 0.03%
2018 John Adams Presidential Silver Medal 23,487 23,491 4 0.02%

American Innovation Reverse Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2022 48,709 48,778 69 0.14%
2021 49,538 49,538

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Mississippi

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,576 7,686 110 1.45%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,759 6,868 109 1.61%
100-coin bag (P) 2,142 2,183 41 1.91%
100-coin bag (D) 2,078 2,127 49 2.36%

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Indiana

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,005 8,005
25-coin roll set (D) 6,982 6,982
100-coin bag (P) 2,434 2,452 18 0.74%
100-coin bag (D) 2,443 2,472 29 1.19%

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Louisiana

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,983 7,984 1 0.01%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,953 6,954 1 0.01%
100-coin bag (P) 2,333 2,344 11 0.47%
100-coin bag (D) 2,267 2,281 14 0.62%

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Ohio

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,999 7,999
25-coin roll set (D) 6,939 6,939
100-coin bag (P) 2,829 2,841 12 0.42%
100-coin bag (D) 2,607 2,613 6 0.23%

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Tennessee

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,011 7,011
25-coin roll set (D) 7,007 7,007
100-coin bag (P) 2,770 2,770
100-coin bag (D) 2,771 2,771

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Kentucky

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,004 7,004
25-coin roll set (D) 6,988 6,988
100-coin bag (P) 2,768 2,768
100-coin bag (D) 2,778 2,778

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Vermont

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,023 7,023
25-coin roll set (D) 7,011 7,011
100-coin bag (P) 2,787 2,787
100-coin bag (D) 2,775 2,775

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Rhode Island

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,010 7,010
25-coin roll set (D) 7,007 7,007
100-coin bag (P) 2,788 2,788
100-coin bag (D) 2,786 2,786

2021 American Innovation Dollars – North Carolina

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,010 7,010
25-coin roll set (D) 7,018 7,018
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,790 2,790

2021 American Innovation Dollars – New York

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,006 7,006
25-coin roll set (D) 7,013 7,013
100-coin bag (P) 2,786 2,786
100-coin bag (D) 2,785 2,785

2021 American Innovation Dollars – Virginia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,015 7,015
25-coin roll set (D) 7,010 7,010
100-coin bag (P) 2,796 2,796
100-coin bag (D) 2,786 2,786

2021 American Innovation Dollars – New Hampshire

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,017 7,017
25-coin roll set (D) 7,018 7,018
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,790 2,790

2020 American Innovation Dollars – South Carolina

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 40,852 40,860 8 0.02%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,378 6,378
25-coin roll set (D) 6,399 6,399
100-coin bag (P) 2,734 2,734
100-coin bag (D) 2,378 2,378

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Maryland

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 49,722 49,723 1 0.00%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,493 6,493
25-coin roll set (D) 6,471 6,471
100-coin bag (P) 2,725 2,725
100-coin bag (D) 2,737 2,737

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Massachusetts

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 47,915 47,940 25 0.05%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,486 6,486
25-coin roll set (D) 6,481 6,481
100-coin bag (P) 2,746 2,746
100-coin bag (D) 2,744 2,744

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Connecticut

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 46,369 46,375 6 0.01%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,496 6,496
25-coin roll set (D) 6,425 6,425
100-coin bag (P) 2,736 2,736
100-coin bag (D) 2,747 2,747

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Georgia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 46,643 46,661 18 0.04%
25-coin roll set (P) 7,865 7,873 8 0.10%
25-coin roll set (D) 7,352 7,358 6 0.08%
100-coin bag (P) 3,366 3,369 3 0.09%
100-coin bag (D) 3,223 3,224 1 0.03%

2019 American Innovation Dollars – New Jersey

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 50,076 50,096 20 0.04%
25-coin roll set (P) 8,785 8,790 5 0.06%
25-coin roll set (D) 7,841 7,847 6 0.08%
100-coin bag (P) 3,826 3,827 1 0.03%
100-coin bag (D) 3,449 3,452 3 0.09%

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Pennsylvania

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 54,559 54,576 17 0.03%
25-coin roll set (P) 10,037 10,050 13 0.13%
25-coin roll set (D) 8,306 8,315 9 0.11%
100-coin bag (P) 3,472 3,478 6 0.17%
100-coin bag (D) 2,943 2,945 2 0.07%

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Delaware

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 69,834 69,853 19 0.03%
25-coin roll set (P) 8,895 8,899 4 0.04%
25-coin roll set (D) 8,208 8,211 3 0.04%
100-coin bag (P) 3,138 3,140 2 0.06%
100-coin bag (D) 3,305 3,307 2 0.06%

2018 American Innovation Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S)* 74,720 74,720
Proof Coin (S) 251,983 252,022 39 0.02%
25-coin roll set (P) 22,230 22,252 22 0.10%
25-coin roll set (D) 25,110 25,132 22 0.09%
100-coin bag (P)* 2,935 2,935
100-coin bag (D)* 2,954 2,954

George H.W. Bush Coin & Chronicles Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
$1 Coin & Set 11,176 11,187 11 0.10%

2020 Bush Presidential $1 Coin & First Spouse Medal Set

Old
Sales
Latest

Sales

Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
$1 Coin & Set 9,876 9,876

2020 George H.W. Bush Presidential $1 Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll (P) 24,898 24,898
25-coin roll (D) 21,783 21,811 28 0.13%
100-coin bag (P) 2,695 2,695
100-coin bag (D) 2,098 2,098
250-coin bag (P) 2,720 2,724 4 0.15%
250-coin bag (D) 4,224 4,229 5 0.12%

Native American Dollar Rolls

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,390 13,391 1 0.01%
2023-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 12,712 12,713 1 0.01%
2023-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,685 1,685
2023-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,687 1,687
2023-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,079 1,079
2023-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,259 1,259
2022-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,995 13,995
2022-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,918 13,919 1 0.01%
2022-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,699 1,699
2022-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,614 1,614
2022-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,698 1,698
2022-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,699 1,699

Kennedy Half Dollar Rolls

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 8,914 9,040 126 1.41%
2023-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 24,967 24,967
2022-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 10,999 10,999
2022-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 21,926 21,926
2021-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 9,968 9,968
2021-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 21,989 21,989
2020-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 11,776 11,776
2020-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 24,312 24,312
2019-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 11,534 11,534
2019-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 24,132 24,132

2023 Jovita Idar Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,338 12,449 111 0.90%
100-Coin Bag (P) 3,434 3,447 13 0.38%
100-Coin Bag (D) 3,303 3,317 14 0.42%
Two-Roll Set 3,181 3,199 18 0.57%

2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,683 12,673 -10 -0.08%
100-Coin Bag (P) 4,063 4,072 9 0.22%
100-Coin Bag (D) 3,813 3,819 6 0.16%
Two-Roll Set 4,043 4,064 21 0.52%

2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,577 12,577
100-Coin Bag (P) 6,836 6,863 27 0.39%
100-Coin Bag (D) 4,330 4,335 5 0.12%
Two-Roll Set 5,258 5,281 23 0.44%

2023 Bessie Coleman Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,533 12,533
100-Coin Bag (P) 5,279 5,282 3 0.06%
100-Coin Bag (D) 4,734 4,739 5 0.11%
Two-Roll Set 5,470 5,482 12 0.22%

2022 Anna May Wong Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,617 7,617
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,860 1,860
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,858 1,858
Two-Roll Set 5,936 5,936

2022 Nina Otero-Warren Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,639 7,639
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,853 1,853
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,855 1,855
Two-Roll Set 5,882 5,883 1 0.02%

2022 Wilma Mankiller Quarters

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Three-Roll Set 7,616 7,616
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,850 1,850
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,822 1,822
Two-Roll Set 5,911 5,911

2022 Dr. Sally Ride Quarters

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Three-Roll Set 7,603 7,603
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,854 1,854
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,852 1,852
Two-Roll Set 5,926 5,926

2022 Maya Angelou Quarters

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Three-Roll Set 7,588 7,588
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,858 1,858
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,861 1,861
Two-Roll Set 5,940 5,940

 

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Antonio

Maya Angelou 2022 S AWQ at 7,588 is the scarcest. Tried but wasn’t able to get one. Wanted Ana May Wong, but again, sold out before I could get one. At least I have the Jovita Itar 2023 S, although not as low a mintage, at least I have a roll of them. The design is quite unusual and we’ll see how it fares over the years. If you look real close, you can make out what’s on her dress. Why I need trifocals. I’m still looking for Eleanor Roosevelt at my bank, they tell me they haven’t seen any… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Antonio,

Good work scoring a roll of the very uniquely-designed Jovitar Idar 2023-S Quarter!

Antonio

Those proof (W) American Gold Buffalos are a rare breed. 2020 at under 12,000.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Antonio,

I just had a chuckle about how the Mint’s habit of calling a bison a buffalo is akin to them insisting on calling a cent a penny. You just have to laugh when the people who you might think ought to know better than that simply don’t seem to get it.

Major D

A very strong showing for the 2023 Proof Set. Sales more than double the week before.

Seth Riesling

Major D,

The Mint sent out a large fold-over mailing card last week that only advertised it’s 2023 clad Proof set & 2023 silver Proof set. They offer free “budget” shipping (which they raised one dollar this year to $5.95) for those not in their Loyalty Program, with a promo code that expires on 9-30.
It looks like the promo mailing was very successful.

NumisdudeTX

Major D

Seth, it’s hard for me to believe that free shipping would impact sales that much. Though for non-loyalty I guess it does negate the price increase from $32 to $35 plus some.

Seth Riesling

Major D, The really sad thing about a $35 clad Proof set price is that the average young collector under age 18, can’t afford that price plus $5.95 shipping cost. When I first ordered from the Mint in 1976 when I lived on our smallest & most secret NSA base in Germany, there were no shipping charges ever for anyone or any orders & the 5-coin clad Proof set was $7 (I used my own money to order the Proof sets & Unc. coin sets & bronze medals each year starting that year). The 10-coin Unc. coin sets were $6… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Seth,

I too was employed by that DOD program, but since it was in the earlier summers of 1965 and 1966 the pay was only $1.15 and $1.25 respectively. The jobs consisted of P.X. Snack Bar bus boy, Commissary warehouseman and Quartermaster furniture mover successively.
I was then collecting circulating U.S (including Walking Liberty Half Dollars!) and European coins. It don’t think it hurts to start small; it’s the degree and intensity of interest that seem to matter the most.

Craig

Seth,

For some reason, it hasn’t convinced me that I can’t survive without having this ‘over-priced’ set in my collection. Of course, maybe I’m immune to that tactic because I already get free shipping for the rest of this year? But this is America, and when folks see the word ‘free’ anything, it’s payday for the advertisers!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig, Major D, and Seth,

You all make excellent points regarding the effects of higher pricing, the special mailing and the sales impact of same. Could it be that the Mint has finally reached the “break point” where all the possible incentives in the world can barely move the meter anymore regarding the fortunes of its sales?

Dazed and Coinfused

Perhaps 61% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck also weighs on it. Also cpi being used as the benchmark for inflation vs previous tabulation of fuel cost, food prices etc. Perhaps an increase of sales for proof set stemmed from a sense of patriotism revolving around Sept 11th, or perhaps labor day gave em extra time to shop and with 3 day processing times depending on card rolled over into the sales productions.

I also have some corrections to make on a previous posting from last weekend I think, but I’ll address that later.

Jeff Legan

Hello Dazed and Coinfused, This one looks fine so far, but I wonder if you have really seen the light or are planning some kind of a “gotcha” moment. If so, I thought I would add a bit more context to your information first. Underline, mine. Otherwise, this is great. You do not seem to be taking any side here, nobody was insulted, and perhaps the mention of how many are living paycheck to paycheck could foster a reasoned discussion about the issue, instead of just both sides automatically lining up to bash each other. Your proof set/patriotism comment was… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Jeff Legan,

Having previously covered the relative fortunes of First and Third World countries in my prior post, I have to say you are right in pointing out that the average American’s income allotment versus their output requirement are completely out of whack. We have entered an era of unprecedented wage and price disparity and if steps aren’t taken to correct this unbalance not just our economic condition but our very social order may quite well be put a some considerable level of risk.

Craig

D & C, Glad to see you’re back. I was thinking you went on vacation in Mexico and maybe ran into some trouble. Saw today that oil is approaching $90/barrel which usually means higher inflation for all of us. 61% of folks living pay check to pay check is never a good thing.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig,

Just when we thought one problem was making a graceful exit it comes back to hit us on the head again. I’m beginning to think all of this is some sort of cosmic game of whack-a-mole.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Dazed and Coinfused,

When I think about issues like that I often have to remind myself this and others like it are indeed “First World problems”. Hundreds of millions of people less fortunate than we are live from bucket to bucket of unclean water and handful to handful of scarcely nourishing food (if they have access to any at all).

Craig

Kaiser, When one sees images of some of our homeless encampments (saw one in Austin which has transformed a park into a ghetto) you start to think of this country as a ‘Third World country’. But when you think about other countries and the conditions they endure and live in, well you have to put it in perspective. The thing that gets me is those folks living in conditions we find reprehensible; no indoor plumbing or A/C (for God’s sake) or use of powered cars, trucks, planes, trains and everything, they are accustomed to it and do the best they… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig, Here’s the thing about that. In the Third World countries in which people have no choice but to live in the most primitive, unsanitary and crowded conditions it is because that is all their place on the planet affords them, i.e., that is all that is ever available to all but the very luckiest few in those unfortunate environs. On the other hand, here in the United States – with the express exception of those individuals who are genuinely so mentally ill as to be unable to navigate this or any other location on earth – there really is… Read more »

Jeff Legan

This part: “But if I didn’t have all that I do, I wouldn’t gravitate to self medicating to get thru the day.“A feeling of hopelessness and/or lack of self worth contributes heavily to constant self medication, in my opinion. Does not sound to me like you have ever had either of those problems so far. You have too much of one of those traits, in my opinion. If I am mistaken, share your story. Shame we couldn’t do an experiment on you like the rich guys did to Dan Aykroyd in Trading Places. I am less sure than you are… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Dazed and Coinfused,

You’re right about the government’s version of inflation figures not at all correlating with the much higher which is to say actual price increases the average American consumer is faced with on a daily basis. This tactic is akin to the kind of fanciful legerdemain applied to the unemployment rate, which in stark reality is always many points higher than the government’s rosy reports would ever want to let on. After all, not counting people as unemployed precisely because they have given up looking for jobs is absurdly bizarre nonsense.

Craig

Kaiser, A statistic I keep hearing is that over 60% of America’s populous, if confronted with a $400 unexpected bill, wouldn’t have the money to pay it in their checking account. Assuming they even have a checking account. With the Mints current pricing I doubt a lot of folks are looking to buy ‘collector coins’ and instead will focus on putting food on their tables and clothes on their children, It does seem dour for the moment, and might be for awhile, but things never go in one direction forever. Like you, I’ve also curtailed my orders for coins from… Read more »

Jeff Legan

So Craig,
Is that figure going up or down over time? The Feds have been asking that question since 2012 (the SHED survey). What does your “DD” show?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig,

This is one of those eminently auspicious occasions when I would be hard pressed to tell what you have just written from what I would hope I would have come up with myself if I had gotten to it first. Thank you and well done indeed, my friend.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I have to wonder who would buy over 325 of each of the 2023 ornaments and then return them to the Mint. It’s very hard to believe there is speculation in ornaments!

Seth Riesling

Kaiser,

That’s so strange & funny at the same time! Maybe some wacky investor was trying to corner the market on “Made in the USA” ornaments before the holiday season & had second thoughts…Lol.

NumisdudeTX

Kaiser Wilhelm

Seth,

I was of course both having fun with the idea and also asking a genuine question. I really can’t wrap my head around what kind of investment someone might believe that to be. But then there were Garbage Pail Kids cards, so who knows.

Major D

Kaiser, you mean there’s no speculative market in these? I wish you would have said something sooner. Now, there goes my retirement fund!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D,

I would suggest not acting too precipitously as to your next move with your stash of these. After all, if nobody buys them from the Mint now, somewhere down the road they could easily become eagerly sought after rarities. You could well be sitting on a future fortune!

Craig

We’ve digressed to this level, wondering what entity (Jeff?) suddenly came to some degree of sanity and decided to return 325 worthless ornaments. Since we’re talking about nonsense, have you heard Biden’s latest rant about him being at the NY 9/11 site the day after it happened and saying ‘It looked like I was looking thru the gates of Hell’. I’m sure he’s only confused by the date, as he didn’t visit the site until 9/20/11, but who’s counting. If he wants to ’embellish’ his stories about reality, why not just say he was in the North Tower when it… Read more »

Major D

Alright, now one for you….

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Craig

Damn! At least you didn’t red flag me so I’m grateful.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Indeed. Gratitude is a good first step on the path to modesty.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Sheesh. Speaking of warnings, have you noticed, Craig, we are still getting “red-flagged” for any attempt to edit our comments. As we are given to asking here, “What’s that all about?”

Craig

Are you seeing the ‘you’re posting too fast’ prompt up in the right hand corner of your screen? I took your advice and check my post a few times before entering into the realm. See, I listen to you sometimes! I wonder why it is taking so long to correct that issue? Maybe they’re just having fun at our expense.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig, I’m not sure what is up with this lingering “you’re posting too fast” notification, but I will say that it’s made me a lot more careful about what I write the first time since there’s no chance of taking anything back. As far as listening to each other, just because I can be so stubbornly argumentative doesn’t in any way mean I’m ignoring the points you make that I might just happen to disagree with. After all, we can learn a lot from a person who espouses contrary ideas and opinions; it is one of the best ways to… Read more »

Craig

Couldn’t agree more, Kaiser. None of us know everything, well maybe with the exception of Jeff, and we all have various opinions which we don’t change easily. So, your ‘stubbornly argumentative’ disposition…it’s one of the aspects about you that I wouldn’t change for anything. After all, no one really likes a ‘yes man’, do we. Your political views, on the other hand, well…we’ll leave that be for the moment.

Jeff Legan

The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. How about you? You have yet to put forth any reasoned arguments that could change my mind on any political topic you have brought up. My mind can and has been changed before. I occasionally agree with parts of what Dazed and Coinfused says. No reasoning whatsoever from you so far. Not one factual rebuttal to any point I have brought up yet, 24 days later. You haven’t even made an effort. That reflects poorly on you, not on me. That is why I talk to people. Explain… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig,

Whenever I take the time to analyze my “political” positions I realize what I am in fact instead expressing is my psychological outlook on what feels supportive and what feels threatening in my personal, local, statewide, national and global environment. Whenever something makes me uncomfortable I tend to reject anything and everything that is associated with the source of what can become an overwhelming sense of discomfort presenting itself as anxiety, often right on the verge of or well over the border to outright panic.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D,

I hope you’ve got a good supply of those; we’ll need ’em.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig,

The only “Gates of Hell” I know of are at the entrance to Mirror-of-Lies, the masterfully sumptuous dining palace of King Orange Face.
Remember, he is not only a stable genius but weighs in at a svelte 215 pounds, had the biggest non-existent crowds ever at his Inauguration and if he ever told the truth the very stars would blink out.

Dazed and Coinfused

No gates of Hell in Alaska. I’d figure that Mr Scranton would have at least spoke at the Pennsylvania site of the plane crash where people went down fighting for America. But he did visit the Vietnam memorial honoring McCain. Odd they would honor an American there especially after all the ill effects from agent orange and blue and white. Genetic mutations and birth defects. And long term soil contamination. I can understand not attending ground zero as mayor adams and guvnah holchulm would be breaking his kneecaps to get answers about the overwhelming costs of being a sanctuary city.… Read more »

Jeff Legan

“No gates of Hell in Alaska. I’d figure that Mr Scranton would have at least spoke at the Pennsylvania site of the plane crash where people went down fighting for America. But he did visit the Vietnam memorial honoring McCain. Odd they would honor an American there especially after all the ill effects from agent orange and blue and white. Genetic mutations and birth defects. And long term soil contamination.“—Shame Biden had to work while Trump was playing, huh? Biden was in India and Vietnam doing what Presidents are supposed to do. Make deals for the country (see below). Not… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Jeff Legan,

I’m still convinced that while Osama Bin-laden was ostensibly the man who caused 9-11 to happen (which he may well have been operationally speaking) the real motivational, driving force behind that demonic enterprise as a whole was the unbelievably influential cadre of Wahabbi fanatics in Saudi Arabia, those incredibly powerful Islamist jihadis whom even the thuggish MBA has to continually watch his step with.

Craig

You actually watch PBS? No wonder you’re so misinformed! PBS? I often wondered what type of ‘individual’ made up their 200K listening audience. Now I know.

Jeff Legan

Project much? The most misinformed individual here is calling out someone else for misinformation? Good one. PBS NewsHour has an audience of approximately 900K in 2022, according to the latest data I saw on a chart (PBS NewsHour viewership at Pew Research Center). Here is a little something about their trustworthiness too, the latest info I saw—“ARLINGTON, VA; February 2, 2021–For the 18th year in-a-row, Americans named PBS the “most trusted institution” in a nationwide survey, PBS President and CEO Paula Kerger announced today at the Television Critics Association Winter Press Tour. According to the results, PBS continues to outscore government… Read more »

Craig

D & C,

I’m glad you included the $6 billion pay off that joey gave the Iranians for those 5 hostages. I’m glad we don’t negotiate with terrorists, right? I carefully read all of your post and once again find all your points to be salient and factual. I’ll bet even Jeff will compliment you on this post! Speaking of Jeff, is there anyway we could arraign a little vacation for him in say Iran? Lol

Jeff Legan

Do you mean the Iranian money that is being held in South Korea? Yes, we will allow another country to give you your own money back if you give us our citizens. Seems like an excellent trade to me. We are getting something for nothing. I didn’t think it was worth bringing that up in my post to Dazed and Coinfused the first time. Didn’t I cover enough of his post? What did you think about the rest of my points? Still got nothing? Are you telling the families of those 5 American hostages to pound sand? Way to show… Read more »

Craig

Kaiser, I’ve said many, many times his biggest enemy is his mouth. I think his economic policies were sound, and yes, I benefitted from them as did millions of folks in this country, but constantly proclaiming something he achieved as ‘the greatest’ or himself as ‘the greatest president since Abe’ was difficult for me to tolerate. Hubris is fine, in moderation, but a little humility would’ve improved his image greatly, in my opinion. If I can make one more point, I rarely ‘like’ the occupant of the White House (including the present one, whomever that might be), I only like… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig,

His mother was dismissive and perpetually distant while his father was abusive and myopically self-centered; thus the tale is told.

Jeff Legan

Perhaps it was the people you bashed last time you brought these up returning them based on your advice. (“But instead, all we get is gaudy Christmas Quarter ornaments that only a few actually want.“). Since KKKraig came back to CoinNews today to continue talking politics, did anyone remember what Trump said on the literal 9/11? From USA Today, Sep 12, 2023 “Donald Trump and GOP rivals pay tribute on 9/11. Others recall Trump comments on 9/11“—-“posted video of comment Trump made to a New York television station on Sept. 11, 2001. The then-businessman discussed the reaction of his employees at… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Jeff,

Trump has for years demonstrated that he excels in lying, cheating, and caring only about himself. I have therefore never expected anything from him but the worst any person could ever be capable of and he has clearly never disappointed me in that regard.

Christo

Serious question. I know of at least two dozen very popular political pages with well received and used comment sections. Yet here some of you are. Why? Do any of you actually think that what you post here is going to influence a single person at the ballot box? This is numismatist page. What is wrong with you?

Major D

Hear, hear!

Jeff Legan

Thank you for weighing in, Christo. You are the 8th person to speak up in favor of talking coins and against constantly talking partisan politics here. Only the 2 already talking partisan politics here have spoken so far in favor of continuing to do so.

Jeff Legan

My apologies to everyone. Christo is actually the 7th person to speak up in favor of coins.

Christo

I love coins! I’ve been collecting and studying them for over 50 years. I also majored in history and political science over 40 years ago and have no problem keeping the two separate.

But perhaps most importantly, I have a young grandson that has recently taken an interest in coins and the last thing I want him to do is read the comments section of an on-line coin magazine. I can’t believe I actually wrote that…about a coin magazine!

Major D

Christo, I’m totally agree with you there. I wouldn’t want my 25-year old daughter reading it, either. I recommend the Eisenhower dollars for your grandson if you haven’t already introduced them to him. Something about the size and weight of that coin that made me love getting as a kid- even if they weren’t silver (the ones I got anyways) I still called them silver dollars nonetheless.

REB

I, too, like Ikes. I remember receiving 25 of them for winning a chess tournament in 9th grade. I still have most of them, less the ones I gave to my kids. My grandfather gave me a Peace Dollar when I was young. I figured I’d continue the tradition.

Craig

You’re not doing a very good job of ‘controlling’ this site, are you? I know what President Trump would tell you…You’re Fired’. Lol.

Jeff Legan

Aren’t you the one trying to control the site? What part of “coin site” do you still not understand? I am asking you to act like an adult and remember there are a diverse set of voices here. Why is it so hard for you to treat everyone with respect? Are you enjoying showing everyone how little you know about people, politics and adulthood?

REB

Thumbs up.

Craig

What exactly is going on in the “coin world’ that is so damned exciting, huh? Is it the ‘Mighty Minters Ornaments’ that you find so fascinating? I can walk and chew gum at the same time, so if you don’t like something, skip over it. Simple.

Jeff Legan

Why are you here if there is nothing going on, KKKraig? Is that why you keep bringing up politics here? To bring some “excitement” to the world of coin collecting? You must be getting some kind of excitement or you wouldn’t keep coming back for a beating every day. You can’t think and type at the same time, so walking and chewing gum at the same time is definitely out, liar. Do you think Christo and everyone else here should tell their children to just “skip” your posts, but otherwise it is a great coin site? You should know better… Read more »

CaliSkier

Wow, anybody here ever here of the scroll feature versus the Troll feature? It is used to move up or down the page. I will now simply use the scroll feature to move up or down the page to avoid posts by those who to me, appear to be hung up with controlling how others think or what they say. Why Jeff are you so concerned what others write or how they think? Shouldn’t other humans be responsible for what they believe or allow themselves to be exposed to. I have read enough of your scoldings to now know, to… Read more »

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REB

I tend to agree here. There’s no way to “win” an argument with a person or persuade that individual whose sole purpose in life is to “own the libs”. Just ignore them & move on. It would be nice if there was an “Ignore” feature on this comments section. I suppose scrolling past the trolls’ posts will have to suffice for now.

Jeff Legan

It is not about winning, Reb. That is the way KKKraig thinks this is played. It is about countering every bit of BS until KKKraig realizes there is no point in continuing. He is not having as much as fun here as he used to. He is starting to feel a reluctance to check the comments now to see what kind of abuse he is going to face today. A little nervousness. You can see it in his posts, getting a bit shriller and testier (look at his reply to Christo above. Bit testy considering the mildness of Christo’s post,… Read more »

REB

You do you, Jeff. I generally ignore Craig’s & D&C’s posts because 1) most of them don’t have much to do with coins & collecting and 2) if I wanted to hear Fox News talking points, I’d go to the original source. I understand your frustration. I think MAGA-types represent the worst of us. They live to troll anything, anywhere, all the time. But, that’s no reason to join them in their descent to the bottom. It the subject is about coins, no matter the poster, I’ll join in if I’m inclined. If it’s about far-right politics and culture wars,… Read more »

Major D

CaliSkier, since Coin News does not regulate this site (at least not in the time I’ve been commenting) it’s up to all of us here to regulate each other. So, when someone is hellbent on causing disruption- what do we coin lovers do? 1) Fight fire with fire, comment-to-comment point-counterpoint?; 2) Ignore it, by using the Scroll feature?; 3) Engage with humor?; 4) Engage without confrontation and try to just talk coins?; 5) Engage with an appeal to our better angels; or 6) Just say forget it, and leave the site? I’ve actually tried all and none of them actually… Read more »

REB

The problem is, short of having a moderator or an “Ignore” feature, we’re stuck with the options set out in your post. The trolls enjoy what they’re doing or they wouldn’t do it. It’s likely all they have going on in their otherwise miserable lives. Many reputable publications have shut down their comment sections for the reasons you cite.

Kaiser Wilhelm

REB and Major D, While it sometimes may appear to get more than a bit exasperating to have to put up with the occasional or ongoing kerfuffle here, it has been my experience that moderated sites are a bit akin to living in a totalitarian state (which I historically have done) where the one(s) in charge assume the role of unchallenged arbiter and things begin to seem as though one has to live in fear of the secret police. In short, I’ll take a wonderfully freewheeling site like this over a tightly controlled environment any day. Freedom comes with a… Read more »

Major D

Kaiser, I must respectfully disagree with you on the laissez faire approach of letting things take their own course, without interfering- whether it be capitalism, the environment, broadcast media, transportation safety, AI or this coin site, among many other things. Just because there are rules for fair play, clean air and water, decency, safety, security and keeping the public peace doesn’t mean there is no freedom. As the saying goes, you’re free to swing your arm but that freedom stops at the front of my nose.

REB

I agree with Major D here. I’m on several moderated boards, including one that’s political. They NEVER get as out-of-control as this one, which, for heaven’s sake, is supposed to be a numismatic appreciation site. This place isn’t “wonderfully freewheeling” at times. It’s obnoxiously off-putting and off-topic when the trolls run free to crap out content unrelated to coins and coin collecting. But I guess that’s the goal – make a site unusable and repulsive and it’s mission accomplished – another lib has been owned!,

Kaiser Wilhelm

REB,

I have no appetite for the kind of constantly hovering control via officially dominant voices moderated boards have. Not my style.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D,

How did my giving my opinion on the workings of this site spark the need for a political lecture? I am truly baffled.

Jeff Legan

I am always sorry to see comment sections shut down elsewhere, Reb. We have a lot of freedom here. No moderation though. It is up to us. I tried asking for intervention here the first time with SENZA. Crickets. Shutting down comments isn’t solving the comment problem, it is sweeping it under the rug to be dealt with later, when it will be an even worse problem. The solution is to allow no insults. Sure, that is just my opinion but it is one I based on reason, observation and experience. If your position cannot stand without insults, you got… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

REB,

The problem with moderators is that since they unilaterally impose their own will on everyone else on the site they can become the ultimate troll.

Jeff Legan

Thank you for laying the points out so clearly and concisely Major D. In my opinion, telling me to shut up while trying to simply ignore what the troll says is simply telling the wrong person to shut up in the first place. I would still follow the will of the majority here if that is what they want from me. KKKraig obviously cannot say the same.

Jeff Legan

Hi CaliSkier, Shouldn’t we be able to have a conversation like adults here? If we want to keep America, don’t you think being able to talk respectfully to everyone with different viewpoints is the way we keep it? All we are doing in America today is talking at, past or not at all to each other. If we can’t respect each other here, on a simple coin site what hope does the country at large have? I noticed KKKraig has modified his posts somewhat compared to earlier ones. He is being slightly more careful on his latest posts to others.… Read more »

CaliSkier

Coin talk! So did anyone notice that the AWQ’s PDS Eleanor Roosevelt’s, even though showing sales of -10 are still 53 units beyond the declared Product limit? Also, any thoughts on the Jovita Idar PDS sets being available now for over 2 weeks(?)? Has the PDS ship sailed? IMO, unfortunately the AWQ’s series, ship has sailed. Too bad as I liked the series, even though finances has stifled my desire to participate in collecting the series. I’d have like to owned the set in silver proof at the very least. Oh well, maybe somewhere down the line I’ll circle back… Read more »

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Major D

CaliSkier, it’s very interesting to hear the Idar PDS are back on sale (123 available as of 11:08 am Thurs 9-14). As for the Roosevelt, I’ve seen it happen before where the Mint shows the product limit being exceeded, and it always gets adjusted below the limit eventually. Now does that mean the limit wasn’t exceeded, or rather the number was just changed to reflect that? Inquiring minds (like me) want to know. I couldn’t agree more about the craziness with labels. I just stay away from them bc I like to collect coins, not labels.

CaliSkier

Major D they have been available non stop since August 31 from at least 4:16pm EST. Here is a post of mine from September 1, replying to a poster on another board. Robert Thomson says: “Guess the demand for AWQs 3 roll quarter set has died. As of this posting time the 2023 Jovita Idar 3 roll PDS Quarters set is still available for purchase…” Interesting catch and More Fun with US Mint Numbers! As of the last Mint sales report, they sold 3 of the Jovita Idar PDS sets, taking them to 12,598. The maximum product limit is 12,620.… Read more »

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Major D

Thanks for all the info, CaliSkier. I bought some of those PDS sets and I’m leaving them in the Mint white cardboard boxes, so someone (hopefully in the family) can auction in 50 years and raise a toast to the long-gone hoarder! Yes, my bad for the misspell and good catch- Enquiring!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D,

Just a slightly out there thought, but if things go the way Elon Musk wants them to that future coin auction may well be taking place on Mars. Not that your descendants won’t still be able to raise a proper toast to you, just in much thinner air and with a lot less gravity. Cheers, my friend!

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steve

I wonder if anyone on this site still collects the reverse-proof presidential dollars found only in the coin and chronicles sets. The Bush coin from 2020 is just over 11000 should be the lowest minted. I know Truman & Eisenhower were popular.

Major D

steve, yes, and I’ve picked them all up in the C&C sets on resale except for the Truman one which still evades me. The lowest mintages are currently 2015’s Truman (16,812) and Eisenhower (16,795). The product limit for the 2020 Bush C&C set is 35,000. As of the Mint’s September 10 sales report, there were 11,187 sales, and as of today there are 23,435 available to purchase. So, unless the Mint destroys the remaining product (which is highly doubtful) the mintage on Bush will be 34,622 +/-.