Hitting the shelves today from the United States Mint is its "Type 2" 2021-S Proof American Silver Eagle. The strike continues the series which dates back to 1986, but it features an enhanced obverse, a brand new reverse design, and a new reeded edge variation.
This coin is produced to collector proof quality at the San Francisco Mint and carries the facility’s denoting “S” mintmark. It goes on sale beginning at Noon ET with an initial household order limit of three and a product limit of 200,000.
The updated and new imagery debuted a bit earlier this year on the investor-grade bullion 2021 American Silver Eagle and on a companion of sorts to this latest release, the West Point Mint’s collector Type 2, 2021-W Proof American Silver Eagle which launched last month and sold out in minutes.
American Silver Eagle obverses (heads side) have always featured Adolph A. Weinman’s Liberty design as first seen on 1916-1947 half-dollars. It remains for this newest issue, but it has been “refreshed.”
"The San Francisco-minted coin’s obverse features a refreshed depiction of Adolph A. Weinman’s full-length figure of Liberty in full stride, enveloped in folds of the flag, with her right hand extended and branches of laurel and oak in her left," the U.S. Mint describes. "The Mint employed technological advancements that resulted in a design that is now a closer reflection of Weinman’s original vision and includes the addition of his traditional artist mark."
Obverse inscriptions include "LIBERTY," "IN GOD WE TRUST," and "2021." Weinman’s artist mark is also shown.
As for the proof coin’s reverse, it has completely changed. Gone is John Mercanti’s heraldic eagle with shield design. It is replaced with a depiction showing an eagle as it prepares to land, carrying an oak branch, as if to add it to a nest.
Reverse inscriptions read: "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA," "E PLURIBUS UNUM," "1 OZ. FINE SILVER" and "ONE DOLLAR." United States Mint Artistic Infusion Program Designer Emily Damstra created the design which was sculpted by United States Mint Medallic Artist Michael Gaudioso.
New Anti-counterfeiting Edge
Type 2 American Silver Eagles also have a new reed pattern variation to assist in combating fakes.
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle Specifications
| Denomination: | $1 |
| Composition: | 99.9% Silver |
| Weight: | 1.000 troy oz. (31.103 grams) |
| Diameter: | 1.598 inches (40.60 mm) |
| Edge: | Reeded |
| Mint and Mint Mark: | San Francisco – S |
Ordering and Price
Order the collectible coin from the U.S. Mint via its online page dedicated to American Eagle coins.
The proof’s price is $73.
If you have an enrollment guess again if it’s filled. Mine was “hidden” late yesterday and not filled yet so guess I’ll join the party at noon. Whatever is going on is no accident, computers are programmed.
I had 3 enrollments for this issue set up the 1st of the year. I have confirmations on all 3. I took the difference from the highest # to the lowest # and multiplied it by 3 and came up with over 91,000 units already being dedicated to buyers. I guess almost 1/3 of the coins are already off the board. I love the enrollment option. Good hunting for you all this morning.
Your exactly correct and that’s why this one sold out in under 12 minutes – by my records the fastest sell out so far.
Carl,
My enrollment coins have been ‘confirmed’ and my CC has been billed, as of 12:41 AM. In the past, I’d get confirmation days before a release, but with reality being what it is, I’ll consider myself lucky. I’ll be watching from the bleachers, so good luck all!
I mistakenly thought that there were 300,000 of these coins being minted and eligible for sale today. However, the article says the limit is 200,000. Therefore almost half of the coins have already been scheduled to be filled by enrollments. Remember, it had been mentioned in previous blogs that if you have an enrollment prior to the cutoff date and June, the mint still honored the number which can be in excess of three per enrollment.
That is what has been stated. I did put in the ‘3 limit’ for this in my enrollment program. I’m also in the enrollment program for the ‘Uncirculated (Burnished) W Silver Dollars’ coming this September. I’m hoping they decide not to change, or reduce, the number I ordered for that particular coin. I’ll keep my fingers crossed and see what transpires. I hope you were able to snag this one!
It may have even been less. In the Aug 8 US Mint production report they were already down 13,986 for this coin (21EMN) before the sale even began today!
It sounds like it according to CoinNews’ Mike Unser’s recent article “US Mint Sales: 2021 D&S Morgans and 2021-W $5 Gold Eagle Set Debut”. So now I am a little confused as to what the actual product mintage will be. The APBB program allows these dealers to buy up to 10% of the product at a discount. The 13,986 coins is certainly less than 20,000. However, the govt’s sales figure are up to Sunday, Aug 8 so it could have maxed out to 20,000 by the time sales began for the common folk. These purchases show up on the overall… Read more »
So five proof ASE’s this year, one Type 1, two Type 2 and two reverse proofs of Type 1 and 2 each. One W burnished Type 2. Busy year.
I was in Home Depot when I got notice of coin ready to purchase. Stood right there in the aisle and within 2 min, success. I didn’t have much hope of getting one so I only asked for 1 but was so fast and easy I should have went for 3!! Next time!
I’m assuming you were using a laptop? If you were using a phone and actually got through to a representative, you should definitely play the Lottery! Congratulations on your purchase!
My enrollment is being processed for 6 with the CC charge pending. got the confirmation email at 1:30am.
Good luck to everyone today. Will join everyone again in the abyss on the 24th
I had three enrollments for a total of five coins. Two of the enrollments were confirmed late last night and the third was confirmed this morning. All three enrollments have pending credit card charges at this time. Quite possibly half or more of the 200,000 maybe off the table before the 12:00 a.m. order window opens up.
I hope we are not all counting our chickens before they’re hatched. After the angst and issues a number of us had with the type 2 W’s, me included, I hope none of us get their orders cancelled.
Will only be assured once the coins are in my hands
I also had 3 enrollments. Different quantities and multiples of the same quantity across the silver eagle coins. Been set up this way for many years.
Yes they are separate line items. Not sometimes but exactly as ordered. Each line item is shipped individually.
My enrollment is being shipped per confirmation email. I also can’t wait for the 24th rev proof release party. Pretty sure it will be a disaster again for some and a win for others.
Or just the ol’ dumpster fire it will be.
I will be trying for one but not holding my breath that “the powers that be” will see to it that I am recognized as a human in the two minutes it will take before sellout.
Kaiser,
In 2016, I enrolled for 6 each of the proof and unc ASE’s (1 for me, 1 for each of my 5 grandsons). Then in 2018, did the same qty. for the S-mint ASE’s and reduced the unc down to 1. Couldn’t afford to get all of them, as much as I would have liked to.
The mint charged for the enrollments at approximately 2:00AM EST this morning August 12th, 2021.
Have you received shipping data? My enrollment for 2 coins still shows processing as of 9/16/21 @ 9 am. Called Mint and they said delay due to shipper. Can you let me know your status? Richard M
Kaiser — It’s been so long that I set up an enrollment for today’s coin that I forgot I had done it. But SURPRISE when I opened my eMail this morning to find that the Mint sent me a confirmation for that ONE coin at 1:07AM Eastern Time. You will recall that the same thing happened to me once before, but at the last minute I tried to add one more so as to be able to give my older brother a surprise birthday present. And that’s when I kept getting the “are you a human” run-around. So just to… Read more »
My apologies, but to no surprise, to all who read this: at 9:12AM Pacific Time and with that one additional coin in my bag at least a dozen times and getting the infamous “The Page You are Looking For Cannot Be Found” message … I finally got the even more infamous “We’re Sorry but This Item is No Longer Available – REMOVE FROM BAG” message. And to think I was SO looking forward to giving one away. So now all of you that wanted one, didn’t get it, and thought I might be your last hope to get one …… Read more »
I got the page not found error at least a dozen times, but I kept plugging away until I got a confirmed order at 12:09 EDT.
Kaiser — Got it. But I specifically did so because (maybe it’s my imagination) the thread sometimes seems to get separated from the original comment. And sorry my friend, I think I may have seen a couple done by you in the same way too. I’ll bet nobody would have cared if I actually got that second coin and then offered it up as a freebie!
On the other hand I think more than just Ryder doesn’t read too. Whoops — Mike
I have the ASE enrollment, too. Shows it active. No order went through, not credit card charge, nothing in the order history. 🙁
Its stories like these that leave me with no confidence in any enrollment. Some seem to work; some dont; very unreliable. It also seems it allows some to “cheat” on the Household limit? dunno
I suppose I know in real time, with little guess work, if I get ’em or not by ordering “live”.
Well, I have an unpopular take on that. An HOL is an HOL IMO. I think it’d be more fair to those not getting one if they had a chance if the HOL at day of release was applied across the board. More like a loop hole than a cheat, really as it isnt the fault of the subscriber. IMO its a miss by the Mint (what else is new). I agree with your pic attachment (regarding these special releases anyway). May this kind of BS be over with in 2022 when (if) things get closer to normal. At least… Read more »
Sir Kaiser, my enrollment for two also went through smoothly early this morning with email confirmations from the Mint. The enrollment order problem Carl described usually occurs due to a problem encountered with the credit card being used. Anyway, I also joined the fray to order one more live at 12 noon ET just for the experience or to be experienced. See my comments on how it went under reply to the Mammoth.
Not gonna do it. As much as one might lust after that gold bucking bronc, boycotting the Mint means boycotting the Mint, at least for a year.
No interest in ANY Mint price gouging products, with that one exception. Might have indulged myself and purchased the gold bronc in years passed, but so many truly abusive Mint policies combined with a ridiculous price yields nothing but contempt and a boycott. I’ve turned my attention and dollars to US coins minted before 1965, along with ancient Roman, Celtic and Viking coins. It’s amazing how responsive, helpful and friendly the vendors of these coins are vs. the relentless anti-customer US Mint. I’m also boycotting Ryder trucks, just in case.
Fa la la la la, la la la, la.
I believe the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle applies here.
Throw in the Fermi Paradox.
Welcome to the quantum realm. ; ))
Very groovy. Thanks Comrade, hadn’t heard of that before. Learning is fun.
Um, I believe you’re forgetting that I was somehow transported to this bizarre and and terribly noir slice of the multiverse. So, the vastness of space is irrelevant from where I’m currently standing. I just want to go home. And no, the heel clicking thing doesn’t work.
There has got to be something better than this out there somewhere or it’s all a waste….. I don’t even trade stocks anymore it’s no fun making money every time I trade – it was more fun when only those who put in the effort and developed the skills made money – now every xxxxx thinks they are experts when they know nothing but have a friend in the FED.
My CC was billed at 12:23 am ET and my enrollment order confirmed at 12:39 am. Good luck to all participating in the scramble.
Got my 3 and confirmed by email at 12:09.
Looking forward to this release.
Ah, U.S. Mint and USPS have something in common, they’re both branches of the government. My mindset is, “they’ll come when they come.”
Wow i got my confirmation for this one dated last nite at 11:35pm pacific time.. before release date. Wonders of the mint never cease. Now i can sleep in knowing my enrollment went thru!!! Happy for a change
Kaiser, how many San Francisco type 2 silver eagles do you recommend acquiring? Do you think they will be worth more than the West Point version released earlier this year since they have a 200,000 mintage limit?
The Mint wants me to verify my order of that one by phone within 48 hours, but I haven’t been able to get through to them. I get so far and then they hang up on me. I suppose even though it’s in my account as ordered, I won’t receive it after all. : (
Antonio,
I also received the email about an order placed for the 4 Coin Set of Proof AGE’s. I tried several times calling the Mint, but all I got was an everlasting answering machine vocals and some amateurish music. I was resigned to the fact that it would be canceled, when I checked my email and there was one from the Mint stating the previous one was sent in error! My order is to be fulfilled as scheduled. Apparently the inmates are running the asylum. Keep checking your email!
The Mint sent me a follow up email informing me to disregard that email, it was sent in error. Two days of worry for nothing. : (
All I know that I placed my order with mint for the 2021 S Eagle from the mint at 12:02 PM and it was already back-ordered and not available. So much for the individual collector!
I am echoing that comment…I am on an enrollment program & received 5 coins…open an account and have your credit card on file with them…
I just now got an email from the mint at 9:55 a.m. Central Time that my first enrollment has shipped. I have three confirmed enrollments so just waiting for the other two to be confirm shipments.
JWP,
You should send it off to NGC and not only get an Advance Release designation but also an Advance Shipped one.
Good for you!
I’ve never sent a coin in for certification, not really sure how the process works. I have certified coins I bought from the secondary market but have only thought about sending some of my own in for certification. Thanks for the thought, I may consider it. Hope you get lucky and get your coins too.
I’m not sure what you meant by 2ndary mkt vs your own … what the diff would be.(Oh, I get that now – you bought them already graded from the mkt.)
But I know PCGS has a step-by-step instructions, and I bet NGC does as well.
I know PCGS want you to sign up (NOT free!!, min $69 annual fee) for the privilege of using their service. So theres that.
Hope you get it back as a PF70. Early release too! \O/
Wouldn’t that be one of the first coins minted? That’s how I understand it. How the grade is so high.
Get on your mark get set–And get screwed.
Can an “EAGLE” really “FLY” with that “TURKEY LEG” No more after this year !!!!! No interest at all !!!! LOL
Bad Gateway!!! Are you Human??? Wrong page!!!! Try again!! Try again!! Try again!!! Good Luck …>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gone Gone !!! LOL
Today it’s looking good. I got my order, checkout confirmation and email acknowledgement within 3 minutes after 9 a.m. EST.
You mean 9am PST.
Yes, I should have typed 12 p.m. EST. My time zone, 9 a.m. PST. Senior moment.
Poor design on this coin, that is why I liked the 2008-p Bald Eagle Proof Silver Dollar.
Beauty is a cameo PF70 coin. I can dream.
I got screwed out of the ‘W’ type 2 ASE because I couldn’t prove I wasn’t a robot. Just as well because I got my 3 of the ‘S’ type 2 ASE’s.
One minute in, got my three, done.
Acknowledged for 3 in 3 min. By far a record for me this yr. Now, what to do with the 20 more mins I had set aside for this.
Do you have special internet bandwidth or anything? Bots? It took me until 12:11 to get my order to go through.
Nope, just a heaping helping of luck today vs every other day.
I’m not even sure what the connection here is at my local watering hole, my traditional mint shopping location. Where I can either celebrate or drown my sorrows.
Has it shipped? I ordered 3 via enrollment all with overnight shipping and have yet to receive a single one of them! Kinda pissed about it!
That was easy – got 3 in about 2 minutes –
I just looked at 12:16 p.m. EST and they’re no longer available. That was quick!
It was quicker…..all gone by 12:11pm.
Quick! I believe the reverse proofs will be just as much so. Order limit is 1 set.
I got 2 at 12:09 – whew!!!!
That was the quickest check out I’ve ever done with the Mint. 2 minutes and an acknowledgement email right away. If only it had been this way in the past.
If you click the button at the right time you become one of the chosen ones. Your success is someone else’s frustration. It’s not your fault. I thought I would be checked out within a minute, but 8 min later it finally went through.
I learned the hard way, with a lot of frustration. Eleven minutes and they were sold out. I see the same scenario with the reverse proofs. The Mint has a limit of 1 set.
Totally agree. I was in a false belief that I had beaten the mint (and bots) with my setup. I was wrong, and I’ve found it harder and harder of late.
Did manage to score two so that I now have two of each release. However, same old crap with the mint site….imagine that….took 7 attempts of “page not found” before it went through. How fast will it sell out is now the question of the day and who will get screwed thanks to the mints website “fix”?
There is no incentive to fix it. Coins sell out regardless. If they fixed it, coins might sell out in 30 seconds. At least this way it isn’t just the fastest that win.
Agreed, why fix it when they can just jack up the price. If we ran our business this way we would be bankrupt in weeks.
“This product is currently unavailable.” at 12:12pm ET
What a f****ing joke. On at noon, had in cart at 12:01, then ten minutes of constant “page not found” errors attempting to complete order followed by OOS.
THE PROPER TACTIC…..on at 11:55am….in cart at 12:00 and 5 seconds……check out…..CONFIRMED AND EMAIL CONFIRMATION…..by 12:00 and 50 seconds…… !!
At 12:11 “not available” anymore.
Spot on! Under 10 minutes was an improvement for me!
Well, that was extremely disappointing. Tried checking out so many times in the 12 minutes before it was sold out.
Aaaargh, couldn’t get my hands on these.
‘Page Not Found’ over and over again, until these were Sold Out.
Curses, foiled again!
Mighty Mammoth, I had the same deja vu experience again as you have had. In cart and checkout and final review and placed order at 12:01pm ET. Noticed this time that “sending request to blotchat.com” returned “The page you are looking for cannot be found.” Went through this same cycle 2 more times. Then on the fourth time, placed order and notice instead “sending request to facebook.com” resulted in page not found. Same thing for two more times, then on the seventh try my order successfully went through with valid order number at 12:06pm ET. Received US Mint email at… Read more »
Rich – Congratulations on getting your coins. This was by far the most difficult ordering process so far. I was successful in purchasing every Morgan (didn’t try for the ‘O’) & Peace Silver Dollar, as well as the previous proof ASE’s, but today’s effort was maddening with the ‘Page Not Found’ repeatedly coming up.
And I was on there at 12:00 on the button. The Mint really needs to fix their website.
Here’s me when I am p!ssed, and that’s the Mint Director I am chasing!
Mammoth, that’s magnificent. Totally appreciate your prehistoric sense of humor.
Kaiser – your point is well-taken and I may do so.
However, given I was able to order those high-demand Morgan & Peace Dollars as well as the previous ASE Proofs, I didn’t think I’d hit the Brick Wall today.
Is the Reverse Proof ASE set available via enrollment, or will Aug 24 provide another feeding-frenzy of uncertainty?
No it’s not, and I wish it was.
it’s going to be the feeding-frenzy of feeding-frenzies
That is exactly what happened to me. And it wasn’t slow either, just kept taking me to ‘page not found’ over and over again – until the coin was gone. Strangely, I was able to get all 6 morgan / peace issues – even the CC and O privys – but not either of the ASE type II that have come out (W and S) … so strange. I tried to join the enrollment but it is closed. I refuse to pay 150 on ebay so I guess I am SOL on the 2021 ASE proofs. I’m upset but I’ll… Read more »
I think you still can kinda get an ASE officially from the US Mint if you buy the Limited Edition 2021 Silver Proof set this fall but it will be more expensive then the $73 for just one coin. The set should have either the S or W ASE. If you want a stand-alone product, then you can buy an empty 2021 ASE case with COA on Ebay, open the special edition set, and plop the ASE in!
THe enrollments have not been available for some time.
Looks like it sold out at 12:11.
Kaiser, yes through enrollments. Wanted a couple more but system kept me out today.
Missed many over the years. Just have to shrug it off when it happens. Happens more frequent though the last couple years.
Smoothest sailing, easiest transaction with the Mint I’ve ever had … … is what I would’ve said if I was od’ing on OXY!! lol 😉 That took the MOST retries of any of the recent attempts. And I didnt realize until after, that this order said BACKORDERED (arriving in Oct 14), which I took as normal, based on the Morgan / Peace $s. Got an acknowledge email right after order (10 mins in), but that backorder (on this Eagle) has me mystified. I smell doom and disappointment. 🙁 But theres a test-chg on my CC. … So yer sayin theres… Read more »
Got my order in right on the bell. My confirmation order didn’t say backorder so it looks like it is shipping right away.
Backside of 200k product limit probably has to be produced and then shipped in October.
All gone now.
OK – so maybe the button on the site always said B/O, and that is the norm. Its said that in the cart too.
Actually, my order summary page does NOT say B/O, so maybe I’m gettin lucky!!
Oh boy, this is gonna be great. (Flounder)
I hope. (me)
Oh, I used to be worse. Type A all day long. But I’ve aged, like a fine … cheese. 😉 (maybe in another decade or 2?…)
I hope u r right about the B/O, and starting to think u r. It may have been either the way they may have been handling CC verification during this process, or so many already at the distributor, with more to ship there.
Rob,
That is strange. I was in the enrollment program for these (Thank God!) and mine have already been shipped! I received the shipping email from the Mint about 10 minutes ago. I believe these S Proofs will be included in the Fall release of the Limited Edition Silver Proof Set, so maybe that’s why they have it as ‘Backordered.’ As with anything related to our Mint, I don’t relax until I see that package at my door.
Neither my ack email nor my final checkout summary said B/O, so … crossing fingers, toes, eyes, ears, nose … etc.
Until the conf email comes … we’ll see.
Larry T,
like JWP above, good for you. you guys have me checking my email every 5 minutes to see if mine have been shipped.
Kaiser, I would have to be Glass! Are your orders with the Mint delivered by the UPS guy/gal anymore? Mine usually are sent by mail, even considering the fact some are in the thousands of dollars and used to require a signature (I do try to keep those at a Minimum!) I’m curious, have you ever received more items in a shipment then were ordered? I’ve had several instances of that, including some nice iterations of silver! Fortunately for me, I’ve never received a shipment deficient an item ordered. Now if we can only secure that shipment email for the… Read more »
Next up, the reverse proofs. I see a limit of 1 set per customer. See if they don’t sell out in less than 10 minutes.
Whew, my butt can un-clench for now, just got the order conf email.
Can relax, … at least until the 24th.
I’m passing on the gold “pony”, even tho while I dislike the disembodied (de-winged) chicken-head on the new gold Eagle, I dont hate the eagle close-up on the “pony”. *shrug* go figger. The “pony” eagle looks meaner.
Next up for me after the 24th might be the palladium (but oh man the $$$$!!!), as I really like the blown-up Mercury design. Much like I gravitate toward the Morgan / Peace reissues.
I dig the classics too. Imo, it speaks volumes that Buffalo Nick, Merc dime, the Morgan’s etc, do well, while new designs seem to be ‘get off my lawn’ stuff.
I got the ’19 Palladium in ’19 because I love the Merc dime design. It was kinda poo-pooed on here cause of the $1900+ tag. Well, I could laugh now if I wanted a profit. I just dig the coin.
I guess I’m saying if ya like it, bag one if ya can.
R,
Since my enrollment for 1 wasn’t filled I ordered 3 and will have a friend list 2 on eBay so I can recover some of the excess I paid to get the W coins that the mint didn’t fill on the enrollment for those. Conformation email 12:06.
People like you buying more than they need and then selling on ebay for excess profit is the reason why some people don’t even get one.
I agree with you 100% I have been collecting coins for many years and there are many coins that I have purchased that I could sell for a big profit but there is no way I am selling anything. I really enjoy what you said and it is so true!
He was entitled to purchase 3, and he did. In fact, some might say he was hard done by, in not having his enrolment fulfilled.
The good news is that you can jump on eBay and secure yourself one.
Agree, they need to put the limit at 1 – then this reselling on Ebay BS will stop
The reverse proofs will be limit 1 set.
I hope for all that I can get my one set. This year will be remembered as the Great American Silver Coin Rush of 2021.
I agree and by the way I am sorry for the way my comment sounded.Carl and anyone else has the right to purchase the limit – it was not my intention to bash him. I just think the limit should be one per household so more collectors get a chance. My mistake !!
The real flippers are those who buy the 40 coin batch.
Going to be some “weeping and gnashing of teeth” over this cluster.
Looks like most were gone through enrollments.
As an international purchaser, unfortunately I am unable to join the enrolment program. If you are in the US, you’d be crazy not to be on it … the stress of trying to purchase manually is not worth it.
I’m crazy. And I only order 1 of each coin. I must not be in it for the money.
Gah! I was trouble-shooting a conference I’m running, and missed it. Oh well.
In spite of a 650Mbps internet connection, and an eagerness to succeed, this was my most unsuccessful outing in the recent era of trying to purchase coins in 2021.
”The page could not be found” was the default display page whenever I tried to complete the transaction.
heck, roll the tape John.
https://youtu.be/ID6gE-rEKaI
I ended up with one successful purchase, but didn’t think it would be harder than the Peace dollar, that’s for sure.
Did you order 3 Peace Dollars?
I see the reverse proofs have a limit of 1. I bet they sell out in less than 10 minutes. Mintage is only 125,000 sets.
Thank you for acknowledging my battle-bred top lip adornment
I had a mustache in the army. I didn’t feel like Audie Murphy.
To anyone that wasn’t able to get the coins that you wanted, I feel you pain. That’s how I felt after my enrollment for the W coins wasn’t filled. I have been collecting a long time and don’t list on eBay and have sold duplicates to dealers so I’m not expecting to make a profit as from I hear if you except to make money on coins, forget it! It’s a hobby to me and I’d be ahead money wise if I’d buried it in the back yard.
Like those twenty cans of double eagles someone found on their property a few years ago.
In 2013, eight cans (not twenty, my bad) filled with double eagles from 1847 to 1894 were found buried in a couple’s property. They were found in nearly mint condition inside eight rusty cans by a couple taking a walk on their property, known as the Saddle Ridge Hoard.
Same here, I bought extras to sell and trade so that when I get rapped from the resellers for the coins I didn’t get beforehand I can recoup some of the overpayment. Its a rigged game for sure. I’ve been a collector for 20+ yrs and have never seen this bad before, only going to get worse. Get them before their gone, its how the game is played now. And as far as making money off of coins is concerned, no one gets rich collecting, its someone else hundred years from now from a stash horde, unless it had not… Read more »
Since there is a limit of 3 explain how an eBay listing has 10 for only $1499.00. The mint little credibility as to these limited quantity coins. Over 13M type 1 bullion coins sold and probably more of the type 2 will be made so why not fewer bullion coins and more proof coins? So the shortage of silver in my opinion is by design.
Possible explanation is, if you had an enrollment in before the cutoff in June you could possibly have had 10 sent to you through the enrollment program. I had three enrollments for a total of five coins, and all three enrollments have been confirmed by email and two coins have already been shipped with a tracking number. The enrollment process works great.
The Mint is showing that 13,986 have been minted as of August 8th.
Does anyone have an Idea when US Mint opens enrollments? I got in on the “W” Proof but missed the “S” . It came back to bite me today.
Gary C,
Not sure if the will for the ASE’s. My concern is they will eliminate the ASE enrollments altogether. Then we’ll all be screwed
I have enrollments for about everything that you can sign up for and make them active a while before they go on sale and make them inactive afterwards. This has worked for me except for these silver Eagles so that is why my enrollments likely haven’t been filled so I expect the same thing will happen with the UNC coins next month.
Carl,
Why would you make them inactive? Is it because you may not want to get one or more of them in a certain year?
For 2021 I only wanted the type 2 as I don’t get caught up in the ‘last’ and ‘first’ stuff. In my opinion the mint messed up by not making the transition from type 1 to type 2 when the year changed but when the design change was finalized in October 2020 there was too much to do in a short time. Get the citizens group out of the way and have the mint decide but we know that doesn’t work well either sometime.
Thought I had 3 in the bag from the get go, but after going to checkout and submit, kept getting the page can not be found for the confirmation. tried 2 different credit cards, next thing I know in like 10 minutes item in my cart is no longer available after trying 10 plus times! I had an easier time getting the last batches of 2021 Morgan’s and 2021 Peace dollars. How is it certain big time coin dealers/sellers on Ebay already have like hundreds for sale? Its like they had priority to buy more than the limited 3. Very… Read more »
The big time coin dealers have an agreement with the government. Same reason they buy coins first, receive early higher grades and are able to resell more coins. They’ll have a PF70 when you’ll have a PF68. You never had a chance at the 70.
I know. I had at least 1 2020 ASE that graded at PF67!!! 6-f’n-7!!! Direct from the mint, opened the box, peeked at it, … eventually sent it out to PCGS. Cant tell with the naked eye (they use 5x mag glasses I think, under 100w lights). gawd!!
Interested in purchasing bullion? See our Coin Dealer Database. The United States Mint does not sell Bullion coins directly to the public. Instead, the Mint distributes uncirculated Bullion coins through a network of wholesalers, brokerage companies, precious metal firms, coin dealers, and participating banks, a network known as Authorized Purchasers. See? The Mint has arrangements with these dealers. Check the Coin Dealer Database to find dealers in your area.
https://catalog.usmint.gov/bullion-dealer-locator
Man there is alot of dealers who get access!
That is correct, however, you see these TV shows with graded bullion coins selling them for outrageous prices as “collector coins” – it really annoys me. PCGS and NGC should NOT grade bullion coins!!!! That would solve the problem. When the coins come in a tube of 20 with a green lid they are NOT collector coins – they are bullion coins made in the millions…!! Wise up people!
PCGS, NGC AND PSA WOULD GRADE THEIR MOMS IF THEY COULD TURN A FAST BUCK…………..
I purchased three coins via Enrollment, and I already received shipping notification.
Clint Eastwood tried to order these coins and his order did not go through.He said he will send the director of the US mint a short letter saying–Go ahead punk make my day.
Love it!!!!
Lol
Chuck Norris missed out on getting his, so the Mint fired the presses back up and made him all he wanted. 🙂
Comic books?
So, I wasn’t particularly set on getting this one (I just wanted one of the new design, and landed a W already so that was good enough for me). but to do some analysis I tried to get this one in various ways to see which, if anything would work out, mainly for future reference. unfortunately none of what i tried worked out – in every case, i got the dreaded ‘The Page You Are Looking For Cannot Be Found.’ response. Sometimes I let that page go for a bit to see if it would transition, but it never did.… Read more »
Wow. I tried 5 times to place an order for 2 through my iPhone same “cannot be found”. Then stepped inside the house and tried on pc and it went through on the 2 try.
I’m all Apple and so far have had a few hick ups but have managed to get every coin I went after. I make sure I’m not in private mode and works for me.
Kaiser – I did this for the Morgan & Peace Dollars as well as for the first two Proof ASE’s, trying both on my phone AND a PC, but this strategy could not get me past the ‘Page Not Found’ yesterday.
That’s life: You win some, and you lose some…
I am waiting on the Mint’s consolation prize of a shiny new 2021 clad Kennedy Half Dollar.
Will be checking my email all day for a personal notification…
Awesome coin wish I got . was on the us mint site 12:01 had 3 in my cart and would not let me check out card on file all info ready to go. Kept saying web page not found.dam joke little guy can’t get unless you pay 3 × or 4 × the amount from 3rd party best believe hsn or govmint got many
Use PC. You are welcome.
I had the same problem on my PC and didn’t get the coin. So that is not the solution.
My spend directly with the Mint is spiraling way out of control.
I know that self-control rests solely with me, but geez my spend has increased.
2017 was a standout year, for reasons I am comfortable with … but 2021 has gone crazy
Daniel, Mine too! I’m not in your spending stratosphere, but it’s a lot more than I’ve spent in recent years. Still have 2 of my enrollments to go, and the 2 coin reverse set and LImited Edition set that I am hoping to obtain. Time to do some serious evaluation of what I want to do after this year. I’ll probably keep the enrollments active and try to get the Limited Edition set, but for the 1 time issues, aka the artificial rarities, probably not. Plus, I won’t go for the gold or the commemoratives unless they are of special… Read more »
Looking further afield, the Royal Australian and Canadian Mints went down the granny-bait path years ago, with a ridiculous amount of one-off and special release coins in a single year. As a collector, you start drinking from the firehose trying to keep up … only to find they don’t have magical investment/appreciation properties. In fact, the annual financial reports from the Royal Australian Mint show that the bulk of their income is generated through commemorative and special release numismatics, not from bullion, investment or circulating coin production. maybe 2021 is the year the US Mint has commenced its program to… Read more »
The Coin Vault is offering Advance Release of these 2021 S ASE’s for ‘just’ $599.98! Get em before they’re gone!
The Yiddish got it right. I bought the new (in 2006) 24K Gold Buffalo coins for that exact price, well with a penny added. What gets me is they throw these elevated prices out as though everyone has a spare $600 (plus the shipping and tax cost as well) just laying in their pockets. If someone is mesmerized into thinking this is something ‘you must buy right now, right here’, I feel sorry for them, especially considering one could buy about 20 silver rounds for that.
Not to worry, Mike Mezack and ANACS has got you all covered for a “GREAT DEAL” Still the “KING” !!!! Understand !!!!!
Got my 2 @12:10 just right before they sold out.
He just doesn’t get you to buy a coin at 8X the Mints price but gets you to buy a label for hundreds of dollars more and throws in a Red Oak presentation box for free.. This guy is like the Hypnotoad. A real Svengali..Was he the one who originally came up with the First Release, Early Release and so on scheme? How fast you get the same coins, minted at the same time, to the graders and charge more for them.
Yep. Mike “Sold Out, Limited Edition” Mezack.
Man’s got no ethics IMHO. I remember that one YouTube video I did of him and the host Alan Cranston. I think that was over a decade ago.
Mike Mezack the REAL “KING” of coin collecting, can still talk the ears off an Elephant !!!! He has his own “ZOO” !!!! ANACS ANACS ANACS !!!! Understand !!!! HURRY HURRY !!!! He has a “DEAL” for “YOU” !!!!
Sam, could you speak up! Say it again a little louder. My ANACUSIS is acting up.
Oh NO!!!! All you whining old ladies have derailed me !!! I “NEED” more thread, what can I do do do do?????
Haha!
3 times I chose my payment type and pressed the order button and 3 times I was told the US Mint web page has failed and to try again – on the 4 the attempt my order went thru. The biggest disappointment was when I placed it in my cart and got the small print disclaimer that these won’t ship until October. It must be nice to sell imaginary products that might be available in 3 months but to get paid right now. I see the flippers are asking $600.00 on feebay and after all the fees and scammers they… Read more »
You yanks have got to move on. It’s really sad.
Trump hasn’t been President for over 6 months. Why can’t you stop talking about him?
https://youtu.be/bM53bJGrty4
We now have Sleepy Joe, NO borders, Obama’s “POOP” Boy, laughing bobblehead VP and WWIII around the corner. Oh Canada !!! Back to the basement “pooper”
Talking about the Trumpster is the only thing propping up the ratings for CNN and MSNBC which have sank lower than the Titanic.
should have said ‘sunk lower than,,,,’
Think about it
This one also
Dementia hinden Joe Xiden..
Can’t wake up the “pooper”. C’ mon MAN !!!! Sleepy Joe “BEE<><>DIN !!! Where’s my “MASK”???? In the basement “DUMMY” !!!!!
Lonnie,
For many years, Senator Biden held the title of Stupidest person on the Planet. Then he became VP and lost the title to San Fran Nan, who has recently lost it to co-title holders, AOC and the Giggler.
Yeah, we can vote out stupid. However, lately, and unfortunately, the choices have become, depending on your viewpoint:
A. Anyone, D or R
B. Bag of Rocks, D or R
1st 2 coins showed up today. Coins look great, but one of the boxes looks like crap. The silver paint for the lettering is all smudged, like it was the 1st set of boxes and there was too much paint starting out. Called customer service and they don’t send out new boxes, wanted me to send the coin back with no potential for replacement. I said they need to get their glasses upgraded as it is very SAD that someone put this into a box to send my way. Anyone else get subpar pkg or coin?
You’ll be able to buy the empty box on ebay for just a few dollars. They remove the coin to have it graded / slabbed, and then sell the empty box. Usually they are bought by people that put a fake Chinese ASE in and sell it, or folks like you that just want a better box!!
I’ll have my coins graded and slabbed. I’ll send you my sad, I mean, replacement boxes. If you ordered from the Royal Mint in London or the Paris mint, you’d get really nice packaging for your coins. Even the Royal Mint in Canada has better packaging.
The U.S. Mint needs to upgrade its “cheap” packaging. I’ve been buying from them since 1973 and have been disappointed that only for high priced coins is the packaging any good. It’s a shame. A wealthy country like ours offering coins in such low quality packaging. Canadian proof coins are packaged very nicely, why can’t our mint do the same?
Box cost me $8, but it has the 21EMN sticker and is exact replacement.
Send that turkey leg for a so-called wing coin back, and tell the U S Mint where they can shove it !!!
Yes, for the premium the packaging should be much nicer.
Received an email blast from the US Mint on August 16th reminding me about the release date of August 24th at noon eastern time. Just checked the US MInt site this afternoon and they have changed the release date to Monday September 13, 2021 at noon eastern. No press notice. Wonder what they will have to say about the delay?
Has anyone encountered the following issue; in July I ordered and received my three “2021 Type-2 W Coins.” Then just recently I ordered and received my three “2021 Type-2 S Coins.” Here’s the problem; The “S” Minted coins are not “S” coins, they are “W” coins. WTF!!! Now I have to call the Mint tomorrow. Has anyone heard of anyone else having this issue?
Major WTF. Never heard of a mixup like that. Still waiting for my coins.
Never mind. My mistake. The “S” is on the reverse.
That crossed my mind if you were looking at the Adolph A. Weinman initials. Happy that this turned out ok for you.
Yep, I can see where someone would mistake the AW on the obverse for a W. Know where to look is what I says.
Ashamed to admit it, but I had the same WTF moment for a second until I looked closer and did the flip.
That explains why, although I ordered a Type 2 W ASE earlier, the Mint sent me the S, which I ordered later, sooner. Shouldn’t they have known the difference between a W and an S?
I doubt any1s still following this … Anybody else waiting on theirs? My order still shows Backorder. Given the ordering difficulty this round, just wondering if there is a hold up or if concern is in order? I know the Peace / Morgans were supposed to be B/Od, but didnt think these were. Never encountered the Silver Eagles to be B/O. They did the test CC charge a while ago, and it shows in the order info, and got an order confirm email way back. Guess they pre-sold these too, and still need to crank a batch out? Just odd.… Read more »
Hope you get them soon. Mine came in on 8/21 and 8/23. Three subscription orders. Seems like they should at least be shipped.
Thanks Rooster.
Thats what has me concerned, some shipped almost right away. B/O on a Silver Eagle ???
I purchased 2 on the site. No subscription. I attempted payment like 8 times before it went through. They have been on backorder ever since. There’s no mention of a ship date or anything. This is my first year collecting ASEs. The US Mint sucks.
Similar to my experience.
Crossing fingers, toes, nose, dotting my Ts and crossing my eyes. 😉
That should do it then. ; )
Alas, that seems to be the case.
A few years back, I ordered a prior year ASE … and got the WRONG YEAR – like 2 or 3 years back. 😮
I think it was 2019 that I got a proof ASE that had some sort of apparent nick in the polish that looked to be under the plastic – ON the coin. So I had that replaced.
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Now this. joyeeeeee. 😉
Well that didnt take forever. Under 10 mins.
The Mint contact told me its just that they have no inventory at the moment?? (huh?) If there were any changes, such as a cancellation, I’d get notified.
Maybe it just means they havent stamped ’em all yet? Or as I saw mentioned somewhere else, they havent gotten to the shipping hub?
I emphasized this was a sold out item too, but thats what they said.
Whew (maybe)?
Tut tut, I smell an Emergency Issue. Minted in Peoria with a West Point mint mark. Shipped in a strapped green monster box (ALL 3 of my coins) with an apology letter / certification from the Mint. *AND* a free red oak presentation box!!
…
And then I woke up. Dreamt I was Rob mini-Me(too)zak or sumin’. 😀
I have a subscription for these coins and the order says still processing never recieved them yet.Does anybody know how to get in touch with judge Judy?
I purchased 2 of these on 08/12/21 when they went on sale. No subscription. The status is still BACKORDER. I’m concerned I won’t get them. Anyone else still waiting?
It’s October 11th and not a peep out of the US Mint about this coin or the Morgan and Peace Dollars – Caffeine Mike says the US Mint ran out of Silver what say you?
US Mint just emailed my shipping confirmation for the (S) Eagle Type 2 gosh how it brings back memories
Just got my letter stating that they just shipped my back order.
Thanks as I just noticed my Peace Dollar is on back order hopefully it will ship too