2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle Release (Updated)

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U.S. Mint product images of 2019-W Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle
U.S. Mint product images for the 2019-W Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle

Collectors will need to act fast and likely have some luck in getting the newest United States Mint American Silver Eagle which is guaranteed to become a new key issue.

U.S. Mint product images of 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle
U.S. Mint product images for the 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle

The 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle goes on sale today, Nov. 14, beginning at Noon ET. Production of the San Francisco Mint strike is limited to only 30,000 pieces, garnering its status as the lowest minted Silver Eagle to date.

Priced at $65.95, orders for the 1-ounce silver coin will be restricted to one per household. This limited release procedure should help some in obtaining one of the coveted coins, at least in the initial stages of availability, and if the Mint’s ordering systems handle the strain.

In addition to its very limited mintage, the coin has two other features that boost its appeal. First, it marks only the second time the U.S. Mint has produced an enhanced reverse proof Silver Eagle. The first debuted earlier this year in the joint U.S. Mint and Royal Canadian Mint Pride of Two Nations Set. That set held an edition from the West Point Mint and all 110,000 sold.

Photo of 2019-W Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle and 2019 Modified Proof Canadian Silver Maple Leaf
This CoinNews photo shows a 2019-W Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle and a 2019 Modified Proof Canadian Silver Maple Leaf. The two coins were included in the earlier released 2019 Pride of Two Nations Two-Coin Set that sold out. The enhanced reverse proof Silver Eagle in the set was produced at the West Point Mint. The version for release today was produced at the San Francisco Mint.

The second item adding interest is that each coin will include a serial-numbered Certificate of Authenticity — a first for the United States Mint. Grading services are acknowledging the importance of this feature with encapsulation options for the COA. It should be noted, however, that the number on each certificate does not reflect the order in which the coin was minted.

Turning back to the coin itself, collectors will find its finish quite unique.

"This enhanced reverse proof coin has the same frosted background as a reverse proof coin, but what sets it apart are the multiple polished and frosted finishes applied to different isolated design elements," describes the U.S. Mint. "The selective polishing and frosting dramatically enhances the visual impact of the design."

Other design elements remain the same as previous incarnations.

The obverse bears Adolph A. Weinman’s full-length figure of Liberty in full stride. Liberty is enveloped in folds of the flag with her right hand reaching ahead and branches of laurel and oak in her left.

2019-W Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle - Obverse
This CoinNews photo shows the obverse (heads side) of a West Point Mint-struck 2019-W Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle. The coin for release today will feature the same design and finish, but it was struck at the San Francisco Mint.

Around the image are inscriptions of LIBERTY, IN GOD WE TRUST and 2019.

John Mercanti’s heraldic Eagle with shield design adorns the reverse (tails side). Inscriptions include UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, 1 OZ. FINE SILVER, ONE DOLLAR and E PLURIBUS UNUM on a ribbon held in the eagle’s beak. Additionally, the San Francisco mintmark of ‘S’ is found to the lower left of the eagle.

2019-W Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle - Reverse
This CoinNews photo shows the reverse (tails side) of a West Point Mint-struck 2019-W Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle. Notice the ‘W’ mintmark. The coin for release today will feature the same design and finish, but comes from the San Francisco Mint and carries an ‘S’ mintmark.

Specifications for the reeded edge coin include a composition of 99.9% silver, a diameter of 1.598 inches (40.60 mm) and a weight of 1.000 troy oz. (31.103 grams).

Ordering

Those interested in purchasing one of the coins and feeling lucky enough to try can do so when its released at Noon ET by visiting the U.S. Mint’s online store of silver coins.

Phone orders may also be attempted by calling 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468). Hearing- and speech-impaired customers with TTY equipment may order by calling 1-888-321-MINT (6468).

Plans also call for the coin to be available at the Mint’s sales centers in Washington, D.C.; Philadelphia; and Denver.

Update: Late Friday afternoon, the U.S. Mint released the following statements to CoinNews:

"Yesterday, the Mint catalog website had more than 150,000 unique visitors and 1.6 million page views in the first hour of sales of the American Eagle 2019 One Ounce Silver Enhanced Reverse Proof Coin (19XE). For context, the catalog website’s previous highest traffic and page views were for the Apollo 11 product launch, when we had 124,000 visitors in one day and 863,000 page views in one hour. We are pleased with the numismatic community’s response to this product. The volume of traffic did briefly slow down our site response. However, after the first two minutes we were able to process over 1800 orders per minute on average. Completed orders were processed until all inventory was sold. Additionally, we identified approximately 5% of traffic as coming from bots, including 3% of traffic from a single IP address, of which zero orders were processed."

"At the moment of launch, there were 99,000 people online and 4700 callers waiting to purchase the American Eagle 2019 One Ounce Silver Enhanced Reverse Proof Coin (19XE). Completed orders were processed until all inventory was sold. We are constantly seeking feedback from our customers, and rest assured your voice is being heard."

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Kenneth

I am a coin collector. My investments are in mutual funds in the stock market, rather than in coins. I buy a coin if I like the design. I much prefer coins that are artistic as opposed to having dead presidents on them. I was taken to task in the past by an irate individual for the following statement, but I sincerely wish that everyone who wanted one of these coins could get one!

Certified Public Accoutant

You definitely have to diversify.

Brett

Has the Director of the US Mint looked into this issue? I’m a 25 year subscription member, was on the site had one in my basket suprise you need to Refresh, Item sold out! Beat All.

Jeff

I suffered the same fate ,how can the coin be TAKEN from your cart?
I am not done with this even if it just to stop this rubbish in the future

Nicole Rundlett

In many cases- thinking about concert and sports tickets- you at least have 10-15 min to secure the purchase once it’s in your cart. My wife tried to order and had it swiped from her cart by a more fortunate person. Wah wahhhhh

Matt

Hey maybe check out the I.G. office.. Inspector Generals.. part of our Government.. we pay taxes.. so there for free..

spencer smith

What we the collectors need is a class action suit against this fraud from the mint. The mint was selling this coin from anywhere of 250.00 to 750.00 pre sale at coin shows around the country. So why should they sell it to collectors for 65.95? I wonder how many were REALLY for sale that day to the public.

Matt

Brett I’m with you on this one.. something is a little bit fishy here..

Mark Branford

I suffered the same fate I had one in my basket than oops something happened. These coins were supposed to be sold 1 per household. Pinehurst coins is up to 167 sold at $699.00 ea.raw coins sold and over 70 graded PF69 ones sold for $699.00 at this minuet.The mint broke their contract with the American people 1 COIN PER HOUSEHOLD!

Mike

You’re 1000% wrong it’s one per household, however if i have 70 credit cards for 70 addresses I can get 70 coins you couldn’t get coins to all go to the same address the system worked as claimed. Don’t forget there was a preorder option earlier this year.

jon

No pre-order option on the 2019-s rev proof enhancd ASE. If there was it would have been sold out very quickly.

Carl

Honestly, it doesn’t matter how good the US Mint servers are. If you have 300k+ people trying to buy the same thing at the same time, that website will crash. I just do not understand how people do not understand this. Hackers do it all the time.

Another point is this, the US Mint has no reason to upgrade their servers to make anyone happy. They only release a goldmine coin every several years.

Albert Almanza

I agree with all of the people who had a negative experience when trying to execute an order yesterday. I think that the Office of the Inspector General out to look into this matter and sniff out the rats at the U.S. Mint.

Brett

This release was a scam. 25 year subscription holder had one in my basket, and suddenly I had to refresh. When I finally got back in. Sold out. WTF.

Mike

100,000 people clicking at the same time isn’t a scam, server couldn’t keep up that’s all

Norman

Money goes to money and defication goes to the dump. I did not get the coin and I did multiple try’s on their website, my cell phone and land line. After 21 minutes the Mint announced they were sold out. The mint should upgrade their system. I will say I’m lucky because I did get the US Canada coins.

Norman

I’m curious how many people were waiting in line in DC at The Mint and how many were there for dealers?

Louie L

I and two others that I know of were “shut out” by the US Mint’s inept computer system. Now when this happened to me at the Royal Mint a few months ago I was contacted the next day, and offered some coins they had in reserve. Yes, computer systems keep track of such things. The mint should have shut this fiasco down in the first 5 minutes, or reserved enough coins to MAKE GOOD on the promise of a first come first serve system. Given the coins are selling for TEN TIMES the retail price, there is probably even a… Read more »

Jeff

I FULLY AGREE ! A nice class action suit Where did my coin go from a secure site is it magic that some dealers have over 10 coins and the public takes the hit

Jenny

There is no website that’s built to handle the traffic that the US Mint experienced yesterday. The demand is just too high. When I checked eBay earlier, the most expensive one sold is $1500. If someone is willing to spend that kind of money, then this is a special coin. I’ve only had about a 20% success rate on every hyped product release. It’s mostly based on luck. Majority of the time, I’m unable to check out what’s in my cart due to the product being out of stock within two minutes of the release. Nike and all other big… Read more »

Stephen

Ticketmaster draws more to their website for concert and sport tickets than the mint can ever hope for, and there system works just fine. The Mint can and should fix their website. Trust me, this was a sham set up with all the big boy dealers already advertising coins for sale.

Norman

I agree Stephen, E-Bay already were advertising them for sale before the Mint was sold out. Somebody new something in order for them to advertise before sold out was posted 21 minutes after 12PM.

Mike

You ever hear of a preorder sir, if I don’t get the coin I cancel the listing and refund your money it’s not complicated, you clearly don’t read ebay listings.Nobody’s scamming just simple planning.

Dustyroads

Agree, however, the USM contracted PSFWeb, based out of Dallas, to handle customer service, ordering, and fulfillment.

truth

once you have people like the following, NO website can stand up for the test.
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https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12465334/#Comment_12465334
CoinMeUp Posts: 4 ✭
November 14, 2019 3:41PM

“Had my entire department at work try to get them. Offered them $120 each, so $60 profit if they could get it. Ended up with 22/100 being successful.

A bit bummed at the low % success rate but i’ll have 22 of them at a good price so can’t complain.
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https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12464173/#Comment_12464173
MorganMan94 :
“I have 52 people trying for me (some more reliable than others) and HOPING for 20.”

Richard Margolis

Your gain of 22 coins means that 21 collectors were shut out. I hope you feel proud of yourself

truth

don’t you read that original post??? I am ONLY a messenger, for Heaven’s Sake! Those are Direct QUOTEs from other posters!! I ONLY bought ONE!!! I actually agree with what you said! and that is the WHOLE point why did I Post those Messages here!! By the way, if you read around, MANY people are doing that!!! That is why so many Ebay sellers selling multiples! If you missed, you are bad luck, and please do NOT release your anger on me!! You should release your anger on those who have bought MORE THAN one!! and on the Mint lousy… Read more »

Jeremy

That truely does stink. I was lucky enough to get one for my collection but went ahead and resold it for $635 on eBay! I could of even gotten $699. It’s hard not to resale with that kind of mark up going for it. I have never seen anything like this before.

truth

yes. saw a guy said just sold 1 today for $800. and pinehurst presold so many, now a lot of people who “commit” selling to them backed out, so they are scrambling to buy from other individuals on and off bay for $500-600 to fulfill their presales on bay, LOL. I guess NO one has expected this craziness.

LEE

I saw one sell today for $1175 uncertified on ebay today

truth

Yes, no kidding. the price goes up $100 a day these couple of days. Some dealers are buying them for as high as $900, so this is like a self-fulfilling game, round and round, LOL

LEE

Now the coin has been going between $1000-$1175 on ebay

Andrew simon

You p.o.s ! It is people like you that ruined this for everybody. Just as there was a one per household limit it is people like you that shit on their system. I hope you don’t sell a single coin and have 22 of them. He just openly admitted on a public forum exactly what we are loathing . Get out of here scum! I just sent a screenshot of this and I hope your order gets canceled

truth

Apparently, you have NOT passed your 4th grade reading test! you need to click this link:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12465334/#Comment_12465334
and cursing that CoinMeUp ! I am NOT him!! I am Just a messenger. I do NOT even post on that forum. you are barking under a wrong tree!
What is wrong with your guys? Barking at everyone. Miss buying a coin makes you behave like a mad dog. pathetic!

truth

By the way, if you really want to ruin the party for that “CoinMeUp” guy, you should find out where he works. My guess is on the East coast, since he mentioned it was lunch time, so did not use company’s time. But it was still on the company’s network, and used the company’s computers. And in case you want to take the screen shot, you need to go to that Collectors forum. There is NO use if you reported me to the Mint, LOL. Since I only bought one!

Jenny

exactly! Ticketmaster draws that kind of crowd on the daily, the US Mint does not. Ticketmaster’s website is supposed to perform at the level. They probably spend a lot of money in order to conduct their daily business. The US mint is not going to upgrade their website for just one release. It’s good enough. I don’t think it’s a fair comparision.

Seb

Their system doesn’t work fine. Concert ticket sales are worse in my opinion.

Andrew simon

Amazon and ups do just fine . Black Friday sales do fine . This was complete under performance By the institution that prints our currency , you think they could afford a better computer system for processing orders, Even Ticketmaster doesn’t have this problem.

Mike

Go ahead Jenny say it one more for backrow, I didn’t get my coin to checkout until near 12:12est, you just had to be patient I realised the site was slow i kept calm paid attention to the error messages and secured my coin as I knew I would. Ticketmaster had to build their site differently because of how bad scalping is, this one release every few years iis not even the same realm of problem plus Ticketmaster is a company with massive profits trying to satisfy the consumer. By the way add to cart people, even if adding to… Read more »

Cwestb

On the site at 12:00 noon, placed my order, went to check out, Crash, refresh, crash, refresh, crash, refresh, credit card, crash, refresh, replaced order, credit card, crash, replaced order, credit card, success at 12:11 pm.

ATB lover

Did anyone have better ideal for Future Low Mintage coin release ( Method )? I knew people try to make Fast Money , Not hobby ! . How about only let Exist Accounts Who have more than 5 years to buy it ? How about Coin (lottery drawing) , use last 2 account Number for winning to buy the Very limited Coin issue ? Anyway 30000 mintage is somewhere higher than Canadian Special limited edition coins ! it was because 1995 W proof silver eagles ?

Mondo

How about just making enough to go around. The hell with the purpose of making it highly sought after!

V. Wermer

I have also had a US Mint subscription for some time. I signed up with the mint to be alerted to the sale of the Eagle – It was released at noon and I got a text at 12:08. I couldn’t even get on to the site and when I finally did, it crashed multiple times and I never was able to order. From my understanding it sold out in 18 minutes. As a loyal mint subscriber and purchaser, I am really disappointed.

Christian

Should I get my coin graded? Will it impact the value?

Ken bond

Yes, Dont open the box! Put the whole unopened mint box inside of another box. Depending on what grading service you use go to their web site and read their instructions or call them. I would suggest PCGS or NGC.

Christian

Hi Ken. Thanks for the response. What are the chances of getting a good grading with the unopened box and how would it impact the value?

RonnieBGood

It is required to be UNOPENED in the box to get the “Early Releases” on the label (must be within a month of coin issue). This will increase the value of the coin. The grading is based on the quality of the coin strike (not the packaging). Also have the numbered COA encapsulated. This is the 1st time this has been done!

Jerry S

Yes but isn’t there a likelihood that the coin doesn’t get a “good” grading therefore decreasing the value of the coin?

Aaron

I’m pretty sure all the gradings so far have been either 69 or 70. There’s virtually no chance you’ll get a “good” grading.

Brandonscoinworld

Right but what’s the chance you get worse than a 69 or 70?

RonnieBGood

I have had new issue proof coins graded for over a decade + (as many as 50 a year) and all have been a 69 or 70 grade. This is due to the improvements in the Mints equipment & quality control in the striking of coin planchets/blanks.

Rodney A Moore

I think the main problem is the low mintage and that they shouldn’t have purposely made the mintage below the 1995-W. It was wrong to do that. When I first read that the mintage was set at 30K I couldn’t believe it. My first thought was that if they are doing this, then next week they may pull the same stunt with a 29K mintage. This stunt makes the integrity of the Mint questionable. If the mintage was at 60K there would have still been a great demand but everyone that wanted one probably would have gotten one on the… Read more »

Eddie Harden

Rodney, I have called and emailed. What is the physical address for the Mint Director for I have a letter to send. Silver Eagle COLLECTOR for a long time and I also buy other sets and coins from the Mint. As of now, I am OFFICIALLY DONE with the US Mint over this coin. I was on 15 minutes before offering; bought 30 seconds after, and then processing never went through…and then not available. DONE….OVER…and hope they loose millions over this. Let me know address. Eddie

Rodney A Moore

I am not sure if I sent it to the right place but I used: David J Ryder, Director United States Mint Headquarters 801 9th Street, N.W. Washington, DC 20220-0012 I’ve also emailed the treasury dept asking for his address in case that isn’t the best address to use because that is the same address as the mint store outlet. Interestingly enough, if you go to the treasury dept website it lists “Treasury Bureau contacts” and when you click the link it goes to a PAGE NOT FOUND page on the US Mints regular website. That’s because they do not… Read more »

KEN FELTY

I’ve been collecting since 1960. I quit buying from them mint, YESTERDAY. I do however still collect.

ParkerJonescoinz

The U.S. Mint released the following statement to Coin World at 1:54 p.m. Eastern Time Nov. 14: “Should they become available, customers who signed up for remind me notifications will be notified.”

The U.S. Mint’s order fulfillment contractor, PFSWeb, will begin the process of order reconciliation to determine if any orders placed will be canceled because of expired credit cards or other payment problems.

Coins from canceled orders will be made available to those customers next in line in the ordering process.

Jeff

This is a joke I signed up for”early notification” I got the email at 12:37
yes WELL AFTER the coins were gone Will I get a notification yeah right

Mondo

What a bunch of bullshit! What happened to the congressional law stating mint must produce enough to meet demand? I’m sure there is some bullshit loophole law that shits on the average Joe. I was so anxious trying to buy one, I would also get to the end of order and it would crash. There are people out there with bots that ate up most of the orders and the rest where the unscrupulous jerks that did their thing and scammed us again. T will be just like the government to send out additional coins next month and screw these… Read more »

ATB lover

Ebay seller name Pinehurst sold 67 + 22 (label) +13 (label) = 102 pieces!!!! what the heck !!! Did US mint have hinting secret that we didn’t know ? BULLSHIT of ( Corruption ) .FBI need to do something !!!! Don’t let the hobby industry become home of MONEY LAUNDERING !!!!

truth

Pinehurst is a dealer, they bought from individuals with $150 premium

Seth Riesling

CoinNews readers FYI – The U.S. Mint contracted in 2013 with PFSWeb Corporation based in Texas for a 10-year contact which pays them nearly $600 million. PFSWeb company updated the Mint’s website to a degree and runs the Mint’s call center in Texas & the fulfillment warehouse in Memphis. The Mint is paying PFSWeb Corporation nearly $60 million per year to do these things!! And, this latest U.S. Mint debacle yesterday is the result we taxpayers get for $60 million a year from a private contractor??!! Call & write to your representatives in Congress & your Senators & tell them… Read more »

ATB lover

FBI need to check any Corruption on PFSWEB company too ! because the Pnehurse able to get 200+

Dustyroads

PSFWeb has been guilty of some things, but they weren’t responsible for the crashing episodes the servers have always had.

From: Department Of The Treasury United States Mint

FY 2019 Capital Investment Plan

“The United States Mint’s internal network is the primary tool for coordinating and executing mission-critical activities. It is used in the manufacturing and sales and marketing activities as well as administrative functions.”

So there shouldn’t be any mistake that the USM is 100% responsible for it’s servers performance issues.

Kennygee

When a server crashes, nobody can get through. They sold out in 15 minutes, How can you say the server crashed. Your info doesn’t get blown out of your account when you order from ticket master or Amazon. Try ordering from Amazon on black Friday. Once you establish a connection and have 1 in the cart on an existing account, you should not keep getting your info blown out over and over again and then when you finally get to check out 15 minutes latter you get (NO LONGER AVALIBALE) with 1 still in the cart and the tell you… Read more »

John Cavanaugh

This one coin limit ended up being a scam. There is a seller on the internet who has at last count six coins for sale at prices ranging from $400 to $1,000. The seller’s name is welavish.

Richard Margolis

Has anyone received notification of shipping. My order is still processing

Kyle Mannino

Mine is still processing too

frankovitch

Ditto…still processing!

Jim

Yes, mine has shipped. FedEx due to arrive on the 26th.

Richard Margolis

My order just shipped

Mike Unser

At the end of the article I’ve added two U.S. Mint statements provided to CoinNews about the release.

domenic

Sounds like they are trying to cover their butts and not addressing the problem of items in cart and at final review before being unavailable. due to the sites constant refresh issues. Yes there were more customers than coins…that’s not the issue… The site is completely unprepared for such a minimal issue….that is my frustration.I wonder how many “bots” they say the saw where possibly a mess of refreshes! I did complete the FORSEE survey that pops up and i also emailed them my frustration. OMG im still upset over their complete inability to handle internet traffic if they are… Read more »

Dustyroads

The mint has stated there were a few bots, but none were allowed to order. The mint also said that there were 1,800 orders taken per minute with 99,000 users online at the same time between 12:00 and 1:00 with 150,000 unique visitors during that time. Not too shabby in my book.

slim chance

Delivery Method Price (U.S. Dollars Approximate Shipping Time
Budget Shipping $4.95 1–2 weeks
Standard Shipping $12.95 3–6 business days
Expedited Shipping $17.95 2–3 business days
Next Day Shipping $20.95 Next business day
International Shipping $17.90 + $2.95 per item 1–2 weeks

Seth Riesling

Mike Unser – Did you, your wife & brother (the CoinNews staff) all get one of these coins? As a computer expert, I bet you all did. I had 2 very close friends who live in Baltimore get me 2 of these coins at the Whitman Coin Expo show (and I paid them a “fee” of $100 each to get them for me since they had to take off work to do so), but I couldn’t get one on the U.S. Mint’s app that I use to place orders. The Mint’s statement is a typical CYA thing! If they were… Read more »

Lee

I think this coin will do very well. Because now there can only be 30k complete sets of eagles. If you are one of the luckys that have the 1995-W proof eagle then you need this coin to update your set so there should be lots of competition for this new eagle. Some are selling for over $640 up to $2200 for the slabbed 70s from the Baltimore show. I read where some people want something like a longevity line to the coins. So I guess new collectors wouldn’t have a chance with low mintage new coins. I have been… Read more »

Andrew simon

I won’t pay more than $68 for the coin. I see this thing dead on arrival because of this bullshit fiasco. No collector is going to want it, any collector truly will avoid this coin because it will always drudge up how they were screwed. You just don’t get The same excitement when you buy a third-party item for more money

truth

you need to pay $70.9 out of the Mint door, LOL. the price is $68.95 + 4.95 shipping. So why do you keep whining here? Even the Mint original price is MORE than the price you want to pay!

Kennygee

Tell the truth. You say the coin is 68.95 + 4.95 shipping, then the cost is 73.90 not 70.90. The cost of the coin was 65.95 and if you buy more then 3 issues in a year like us true collectors do, you get free shipping. Like I said, My daughter and I had our info that was already on our accounts taken out 5 times and then at the final button 15 minutes latter they tell use these and no longer available with our coins still in the cart. When you are on an established connection, you should not… Read more »

truth

you are correct, I got a typo, should be $65.95, plus shipping. The problem is TOO many dealers offering to buy back at $100-$200 premium, and TOO many individuals asking their friends and relatives and co-workers to buy on their behalf, so perhaps virtually closed to a Million people were on the U.S. Mint website in the first 18 minutes before sold out. And I guess their system cannot take it. and most of people bound to lose. My observation, People who have faster connections, people who are on west coast do have higher successful rates. Because at 9am, not… Read more »

truth

my “million” number is not far fetched. ——————————– Update from CoinNews: “Yesterday, the Mint catalog website had more than 150,000 unique visitors and 1.6 million page views in the first hour of sales of the American Eagle 2019 One Ounce Silver Enhanced Reverse Proof Coin (19XE). For context, the catalog website’s previous highest traffic and page views were for the Apollo 11 product launch, when we had 124,000 visitors in one day and 863,000 page views in one hour. We are pleased with the numismatic community’s response to this product. The volume of traffic did briefly slow down our site… Read more »

Jokester

Well, you won’t be getting one!

Chris

I’m not sure. But the Mints statement is BS. I logged in 10 minutes before 9am on my cell phone app and at a desktop PC and still got oops refreshing something went wrong. Wrong was not in my end! Added to Bag and was just frustrating! I’m not sure what to feel. I’m mad and pissed off at mint and why they sell to company’s big bites like mike from HSN and shit. It does hurt the little coin collector in me and was a slap in the face. I will not pay the $$$$ there asking for this… Read more »

Steve

I didn’t get one and coinmeup has 22 and was bummed out he didn’t get 100. How can this happen? All the people that got screwed but he’s got 22. He’s going to sit on them and decide what to do. If I really want one I have to pay 700.00. Something’s not right here! Same IP address? I hope you choke on them!

slim chance

Come on guys…get real…I knew last month my chances were VERY slim that I would get one of these coins…there were probably 100,000 people trying to order this coin at the exact same time…a system just can’t handle that, then probably at least 50,000 people got a coin in there cart and 50,000 people trying to pay at the exact same time…that just can’t happen …meanwhile there are more people that are on the phone trying to order from the operator and more and more people are trying to access their website all at the same time…so when all said… Read more »

Phil J

Agree, thankful I was able to get one. People are always complaining the mint should lower mintage’s on coins and this is the reaction when they do so. Plain and simple servers will get overloaded as stated. I think this lower mintage is good for the hobby.

Mike G

Says the guy who got one. I been a loyal mint customer before the internet. Logged on , had in my cart and by the time I tried to pay with my cc on file, it was gone. I wont pay 600 to 1000 for 20.00 in silver. Buy gold . Yes I need this for my collection and iam sure the price will go up even more. I call BS on the mint and large companies that have plenty to sell. Still pissed , but moving on

frankovitch

Well said slim! I too had the date and time on my calendar for a couple of weeks! I had an alarm on my phone go off at 11:40 just in case I got side-tracked but that wasn’t necessary! I felt the odds of getting a coin were akin to winning the lottery, with similar odds! I went through all the tribulations as everyone else and luckily was able to get my order through around 12:12 pm. Order acknowledgement came at 12:14 pm. Confirmation came about an hour later. Just looked, it’s still “processing”!

frankovitch

Received “Shipped” notice earlier this afternoon!

Andrew simon

I have received an email response From a gentleman named Chris Cameron from PFS Web corporate. He was interested in the details of how it happened so maybe this is being looked into anyway this is first person I’ve gotten a half ass decent response from so I think this is who you would want to send some emails to it looks like my email is number #845 http://www.pfscommerce.com
Start lighting them up with emails

Scot

I’m not sure if it’s luck or what, but I’ve never had a problem with the mint. Signed on promptly at 9, refreshed, added one to the bag and checked out. Had to refresh a couple times, but no major issues. Same with the palladium proof last year. I’m a collector, not out to flip – I’ll leave that up to whomever grabs my collection when I go.

Chas Barber

Yeh Scot & I just bought a 1933 $20 St. in the mint website….. Pd proof the same highly unlikely it was a fiasco……so you’re the 1 out of 300,000 !?

Dennis

Thanks for the update! It is hard when there is a limited quantity. But, if they had offered 200,000 mintage the interest would not be as great.

Lee

Yes and people would be complaining about that as well

Sherril Matney

I am really tired of people who got a coin or. 20 of them telling me to grow up and shut up.Howwould they feel if there’s was stolen out of there cart.Plus the bragging on how much money they will make on them.I canceled all of my mint enrollments.

Brandon Nebel

Bunch of sour people. You win some you lose some. This happens with every drop I attempt to get. If its shoes, collectibles or coins every drop happens the same way. The sites and servers cant handle the amount of people going to the site at one time. I’ve been on the short end of the stick many times. No point in crying over it.

Collector

I’m with you. I didn’t get a coin either. Some people are just greedy. It’s unfortunate. So many people learn how to “work” the system. I do know that the US Mint is paying close attention to this issue. The outcome, well I don’t know. This is a very sad situation for collectors. I am happy for those who got an order. To those who abused the “system” the US Mint IS PAYING ATTENTION. The bottom line is “you get back what you put out”! People who try and get over may win in the short run but end up… Read more »

Kennygee

This is not the first time this has happened. I believe this will happen again. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. I will believe the mint is watching when they finally do something about it. I hope for the sake of coin collectors they finally do.

Kennygee

Right on Sherril, and you were getting free shipping too because you were such a good and loyal mint customer with those enrollments. I am pissed off too.

Sherril

Glad someone agrees with me!

Athrose

I agree and I cancelled all of my subscriptions and will not make another purchase from the US Mint. The 30,000 issue number had to be far below the annual subscriptions for this series. I think the Mint listened to the wrong crown when deciding on the mintage.

Dell

Ive worked in Govt for 36 years in state of the art technologies. It takes 2 years to get anything done by way of contracts and this computer crashing has been going on for longer than 2 years. That being said, the Director of the Mint had a responsibility to get this problem solution in the budget over two years ago. The Director should have had a contract out for complete upgrade and problem resolution fix two years ago and a so”union by now. This is all about complete management failure and incompetence. The Mint needs a Director who knows… Read more »

Kennygee

Dell, Before the mint fixed their computer system, back in 2011 I got on the site late at around 2:00 PM to try and get a 2011 5 coin Silver Eagle Anniversary Set. I got on and after one glitch I got my 5 set limit we were aloud. There was 100,000 sets. At 5 each that would have been 20,000 customers. Of course everyone did not buy 5 sets at $300 dollars a set but they sold out by 5:00 PM. The point is the mint has an upgraded system and it is worse now then it was then.… Read more »

Mark Rigaud

So the Mint director says “5% of traffic as coming from bots, including 3% of traffic from a single IP address” Yet (PINEHURST COINS) manages to get over 200 coins!? Visit seller’s eBay Store! Buy It Now Free Shipping 137 Sold!? …and counting!! I just wanted one!!

Kennygee

The mint don’t care about use true collectors, my daughter and I only wanted one each also. If the mint doesn’t go to a lotter system on these limited mintage coins where you send your check in with your order, then they are showing that they don’t give a dam about collectors. We are losing collectors in this hobby fast and this kind of thing only makes it worse. Remember the goose that laid the golden egg story. These limited edition coins should all be sold at noon on the day of release and not sold at the stores be… Read more »

frankovitch

Kennygee, I couldn’t agree more about the Mint not selling this type of limited issue at shows or Mint outlets because it definitely give unfair advantage to people that live close to those facilities! It should be done strictly online or some other method that is fair to EVERYONE!

Tom

I agree, I live less than a five minute walk from a mint. If I knew I would have taken a personal day and went over there, which is an unfair advantage

Kennygee

You know it, I know it, but our US mint people don’t know it. If they don’t change this method of sales on low mintage coins, collectors who don’t resell the coin when it arrives at there door will eventually leave the hobby. It is only a coin but in all my years of collecting, I never felt so abused as when after 15 minutes of aggravation, that just when you were ready to check out, you are told to remove the item from your cart and the item was in the cart at 3 seconds after kickoff. For some… Read more »

frankovich

Wow…unhappy Birthday to you! That definitely sucks! I have to believe that after this fiasco that the Mint will come up with something better! Not to long ago after one of their similar fiascos they went to an open ordering period so that everyone that wanted a coin could get one. The mintage limit would undoubtedly go up but everyone would be a little happier. A belated Happy Birthday, by the way!

Kennygee

Nice thing about a lottery system on limited mintage coins, no bots.

Sherril

I just wanted the one I had in my cart also!

Ken Bond

I really think a lot of these people complaining just dont get the fact, that there was only 30,000. 150,000 people on the site, all at once. We all knew this was gonna be a crap shoot.The Mints web site has always been overwhelmed for all limited editions. From what I understand, Dealers paid people to try and order one. Thats how they get like 10, 20,or 30 of them. I for one am glad there is only 30,000. The rarity is what makes this a true collectors piece. If you really want one, I would suggest you wait for… Read more »

Kennygee

Their was according to the mint, 99000 people on the site. I can only wait to hear all the uproar on the Saturday after Black Friday about all the people that got kicked out after filling their carts from the Amazon site. This will keep happening as long as the mint does not fix it. A lottery with a check sent in on limited editions is an easy answer but you don’t see the mint doing it. There is no reason a collector who subscribes to many coins in a year, should not get a chance to get a coin… Read more »

truth

people here kept mentioning Amazon Black Friday traffic is big and never crash. but how many times have they really bought from Amazon? If they have, they should have known Amazon selling gimmick. As soon as they saw multiple buyers and big traffic on any One item, they raise the price. So as a matter of fact, only FEW people could actually buy the same thing at their lowest price. That means the traffic for any one item cannot be too big because good price only lasted for several minutes or less. But The U.S. Mint CANNOT do this. So… Read more »

Kennygee

If Amazon has more capitol then the united States Government then we are all in trouble. I worked for the United States Government for forty four years. I also know that the US mint could fix this if they wanted to. This is not the first time this has happened. I have been collecting coins from the mint for years. I spent at least $50,000 or more on coins over the past 10 years. My daughter and I purchased 2 Palladium coins at $2000.00 each and didn’t get kicked at check out. I didn’t sell a coin. I collect period.… Read more »

Koiny1958

Just got notice that coin was shipped….

T. R. Williams

Pinehurst Coins, in Pinehurst NC, was showing 143 of these coins sold, @$699 each. I decided to see how many they had left and kept adding to my cart until it maxed out at 60. So they had 203 coins, (and these are just the raw, ungraded coins—-they’re also selling PF69’s and PF70’s). I read an earlier post that they were paying people a $150 premium per coin. They must have had thousands of people trying to buy a coin, since the success rate seems to be about 20%. I can’t confirm what the earlier poster wrote, and he did… Read more »

truth

I got offer from two dealers, for $100 and $150 premium : here is Pinhurst offer:
“Pinehurst Coins
To:xxxxx
Nov 14 at 10:16 AM
Make $150 in just 5 minutes!
The US Mint is releasing the 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof Silver Eagle
TODAY at 12 Noon ET!
See how below:
…”

here said APMEX offering $50
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12463380/#Comment_12463380

Someone said there are dealers offer $200 premium, I did not see them

Jeff

You would have to be a complete MORON to sell at the price they offered stupid people My coin sits in my order cart at the mint
I left it there to at least think of the brief time I had coin in my cart
my account and my rage simmers

truth

here is one with $113 premium offer
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/purchase-u-s-mint-coin-for-86-90-sell-for-187-100-profit/
“Update 11/13/19: Reminder this goes on sale Thursday, November 14th – at 12:00PM ET. Make sure you have a mint account created if you don’t already.

Update: PFS is now paying $200 in total for $113.10 in profit. If you’ve already opted in you’ll receive this increased price.”
———————————

from here a poster said:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12467647/#Comment_12467647
“(PFS is a membership only buying club). No wonder the real collectors had little chance of getting it when we have to compete with 10000+ members.”

Christopher Williams

TR. Williams, don’t apologize for the “long post.” I, too, would have no problem with missing out if it never made it to my cart. I also have no issues with anyone looking to profit from resale. I ended up acquiring one on Ebay for $380.00. I already got a Tracking Number so I should be getting it this week.

Tom

What if all seven succeeded?

Seth Riesling

Rodney A. Moore –

Good advice! I agree with you totally. Sending letters in the mail is best.
And, yes, you do have the right address for the U.S. Mint Director David J. Ryder in Washington D.C..

NumisdudeTX

Michael Stone

I think what bothers me the most is that the US Mint now tells us to place a “reminder” when this coin will be available again. Well, as we all know, it will never be available again this year. So, why bother with the reminder? I logged in to my account 2 hours after it went on sale only to find out that it wasn’t available. I was really surprised to see that it sold out in less than a minute. On a separate note, I was able to secure the two coin US/Canada set (twice)! The first time, it… Read more »

Matt

Yes I was at the U.S. Mint auction for the 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof Silver Eagle..I have participated in other auctions at the Mint.. some that sold out in 3 minutes..no problem.. click to buy in cart and filling out credit card info etc..within 30 seconds. So with the 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof Eagle.. right at 12:00 e.s.t. I click buy.. goes to my bag or cart.. I fill out or attempt to fill out credit card info etc..but over and over and over refresh..10 minutes or so.. mmm..finally get all info put in and click to confirm order.. and… Read more »

Chas Barber

Ditto. IMHO there was some kind of fix on…..we’ll never know

Sherril

Sherril says

November 17, 2019 at 11:44 pm

There has been 2700 sold on ebay and another 522 still for sale plus others in different categories so that is over 10% of what was made?????????

Andy

If this coin were canadian it would still be on the site 3 years later,lol.

Andy

If this coin were Canadian it would still be up on the site 3 years later with a mintage of 30,000.

Athrose

From my perspective the US Mint needs to decide what its mission will be. If it is to serve the entire collecting population, a mintage of only 30,000 should never have been approved. I made these comments to Director Ryder in my letter: I seem to recall a March 2019 Coin Week article in which you stated “First of all, if I don’t listen to my customers, I will get in trouble.” I have received US Mint responses to questions I’ve had in the past and the answers always contain: “We value the opinions of our customers and want to… Read more »

Kennygee

Athrose, they don’t care. This has been going on for years and they still have not fixed it. It will happen again. Any idiot would know that if you put the lowest minted silver eagle ever minted out there as bait, every scavenger in the US of A would jump on it. The sad thing is, maybe they didn’t thing that would happen. The W enhanced eagle had 100,000 in the sets. You would think that they would have paired it up with another 100,000. You can buy that coin in PR 70 for about $175.00. It’s mission is to… Read more »

Matt

Hey what is really the fix is in is that like 3-4 hours after the sale at the mint the Eagles graded PR70 up for sale on E-Bay..now if I send a coin in to get graded..it takes 4-6 weeks.. so we are all being scammed by our U.S. Mint.. I am all done.. not buying anything else from the Mint.. is sad.. really sad.. but tired of this early release to who ever gets them way ahead of general public..

Rev. Ken Denski

I have been a U S Mint customer since 1962, when I could walk into the Philadelphia Mints cash room to buy a proof set for my personal collection. No more! At 12 noon, got on diet, had one in my basket, went to che Knut and it just vanished! What a scam.

K ROB

if you want to see something funny, look at the sellers on ebay with coins for sale and check out their other items. you will see very plainly these are not coin collectors.

Christopher Williams

@K Rob–Yes!!!–Observe the number of sellers with ZERO Feedback who have these listed. None of those sellers are coin collectors.

K ROB

it’s a strong possibility these sellers wouldn’t know a silver eagle from lead turkey lol.

Chas Barber

Easy to solve, make these MINT TO ORDER, 24/48/72 hours, order up to 5 then aloha. Done. No BS multi sales to Mike purgatory Mezak or CornCobHurst Coin….

Athrose

Agree 100%

Chas Barber

I see the Trump Admin. must have authored the USM’s fallacy of a press release…Brielfy slow down, yeah until they were sold in 10 mins……such crapolo

Texasrebel

If the U.S mint was selling g the 2019 San Francisco Enhanced Reverse proof coins for 65.95 per coin to the public and they are being sold on ebay..pinehurst and who knows what ever for 6 ,7 ,8 times ther value and some people or companys were able to get through with no problem ..and we were getting bumped out..then some one AT THE U.S MINT IS GETTING A KICK BACK

Texasrebel

Dont feel bad ..I was at credit card checkout and bump…got back in made it to credit card again . An bump…the system knew who was to get the silver eagle an who was not to…maybe if my name was Mike

James Penne

This sale of 2019 reverse proof enhanced silver eagles – S brings back memories of reverse proof Eishenhower coin set a couple years ago and problems the Mint had with there system. No I didn’t get one if these coins, I can’t compete with Mike Mezack and his system. I’ve religated myself to just buying u.s. mint worthless coins like uncirculated and proof sets. I’m 75 and I’m tired of playing the mints game

Richard Margolis

I received a shipping confirmation and tracking number, but package has not reached Fedex for 48 hours. Should I be concerned?

Athrose

Can someone direct me to the legislation that authorized this coin? Haven’t had any luck finding on my own. I want to know if the legislation specifically called out the quantity or if that was a mint decision.

Thanks

Mike

Here is the link to the “Liberty coin act of 1985”. Can’t find the one specific to this coin though.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty-Ellis_Island_Commemorative_Coin_Act#TITLE_II_.E2.88.92_LIBERTY_COINS

I believe you are right. It states…..

” Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary shall mint and issue, in quantities sufficient to meet public demand”

Athrose

Thank you Mike.

cagcrisp

The law is 99-61

Mike Cook

Mine shipped out tonight, relief 😉 It’s the standard, free shipping (FedEx Smartpost), so it’ll take a few days to get here (NorCal). It’s crazy what people are asking for them already, I hope those that didn’t get one from the US Mint are able to!

Richard Margolis

I am still waiting for the coin to get to Fedex. According to the mint it was mailed on 11/17, Sunday, but the mint is closed. Fedex claims it has not been picked up as of today. Hoping that the Mint did not lose my coin

Stan Buckles

Richard,

I am in the same situation. The mint (apparently) has created a FedEx label, but it (the coin) has not yet made it to the FedEx facility. Hopefully we’ll learn something today!

Michael Cook

This is my current FedEx status –

Tuesday , 11/19/2019
4:10 am
FEDEX SMARTPOST SOUTHAVEN, MS
Departed FedEx location
2:18 am
FEDEX SMARTPOST SOUTHAVEN, MS
Arrived at FedEx location
Monday , 11/18/2019
3:17 am
Shipment information sent to FedEx

Richard Margolis

I called Fedex and they confirmed that the sender, the Mint has not delivered the coin. Do not know what is cause of delay. You can send a reply if you hear something. The Mint claimed that Fedex picks up at 5pm

Michael Cook

They’re probably going out in batches.

Stan Buckles

I just contacted the mint, They claim the coins have “moved” from their facility in Memphis, but could not give me any more info.

Richard Margolis

I am not sue that I trust the Mint. They should know where the coins are at any given time prior to their pick-up by Fedex

Stan Buckles

Yeah, I agree, but where else can you go to get answers?

Richard Margolis

No new information, still awaiting a message from Fedex that the coin has been received. Just spoke with the mint and they have no answers. Anyone else in the same boat?

frankovitch

I finally got a notification today from FedEx that they have it and expect to deliver by Monday!
I’ve discovered that if you want the COA number on the slab from NGC or PCGS, DON’T open the box!

Michael Cook

Awesome! Mine left FedEx Smartpost in Olathe, KS tonight, it’s scheduled to get here on Black Friday. Thanks for the tip on NGC and PCGS!

Stan Buckles

Should receive mine on Saturday! If one is not getting his coin graded, is it still a good idea to keep it in the original shipping box without opening it?

Richard Margolis

My coin was finally sent to Fedex and is on its way. Expect delivery on Monday. I really was worried. I will not open box at this time, I can always look at the Pride of To Natiojns W coin

Stan Buckles

Sounds like a good idea. I’ve noticed the unopened boxes are selling form $150-$200 more than opened boxes. I have the Pride of Nations as well.

frankovitch

I screwed up with the 2011 Eagle set! The box was huge, I thought there was another one inside but wasn’t so I think it was 3 of the coins couldn’t get the set designation! Won’t make that mistake again!

Rob S

Seems you can pre-order one from APMEX for ~$2k! Any takers? Where are they getting them from, ebay? lol
File this under another one that I didnt get in on the ground floor of, and too rich for my blood – like the 95-W.

Rob S

And I was wondering what the difference was between this and the Pride of 2 Nations coin. I didnt realize until now, the mint mark.
This is “S”, Pride is “W”. 😳
So thats 3 I dont have. Too bad.

Danny

US Mint = “U”nethical “S”cumbag Mint 😡 They stole my coin!

Seth Riesling

Athrose & Mike & CoinNews readers, FYI: The Liberty Coin Act of 1985 was passed by Congress & signed into public law by President Ronald Wilson Reagan. It basically states that only the plain bullion version of the ASE & AGE coins be produced to meet public demand from U.S. mined silver or gold. The Mint doesn’t sell the plain bullion versions directly to the public. You have to be a U.S. Mint-certified bullion coin Authorized Purchaser (only 12 companies as of 2018 – 9 in the USA, 2 in Germany & 1 in Japan) to buy silver, gold, platinum… Read more »

Athrose

Seth,

Thank you for the great information.

Christopher Williams

Thank you, Seth.

Tom

MY coin is still in my cart!! are they going to let me complete my order????
complete BS

Danny

My coin was in the bag within the first two minutes and then for the next 15 minutes I kept getting that stupid “oops something went wrong” page asking me to press refresh; again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again (while my blood pressure kept going higher) and then it said “Item no longer available”. I agree, this was complete and total unprofessional-ism like always. The “U”nethical “S”cumbag Mint has no intention of ever fixing this and making it a fair and honest ordering process for us collectors whom were… Read more »