CCAC to Review Revised 2026 Native American Dollar Designs

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CCAC logoThe Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee (CCAC) will hold a public meeting via teleconference on Tuesday, June 18, to review and discuss candidate designs for the Congressional Gold Medal for the former hostages of the Iran Hostage Crisis of 1979-1981 and to review revised designs for the 2026 Native American $1 Coin.

The 2026 dollar depicts Oneidas at Valley Forge, with proposed candidate designs previously reviewed by the CCAC and the Commission of Fine Arts (CFA). Both committees offered suggestions for improvements to the designs and recommended another round of review for the potential changes.

CCAC Meeting Time and Public Viewing Options

The two-hour meeting will commence on the 18th, from 2:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. (EDT). Interested members may watch the meeting via live stream on the U.S. Mint’s YouTube Channel at:

https://www.youtube.com/​user/​usmint.

To view the live broadcast of the meeting, simply click on the "CCAC Public Meeting 6/18/24" icon under the "Live" tab.

For those in the public who wish to watch on-line, please note that remote access is solely for observation purposes. Any member of the public interested in submitting matters for the CCAC’s consideration is invited to do so by emailing info@ccac.gov.

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E 1

2023 (P) Lincoln Shield Cent “Extra V” Population Report: . NGC (06/16/24): Number Certified: 325 PCGS (06/16/24): Number Certified: 149 ANACS (06/16/24): Number Certified: 142 Total Number Certified to date by all 3 TPGs (06/16/24): 616 ¹ . History: Certification Rate (All TPGs in MS Red) ¹ Total Number Certified (10/10/23): 217 Total Number Certified (11/18/23): 287 (∆% +32.3%) T= 39 Days (+0.83%/Day) Total Number Certified (11/26/23): 298 (∆% +3.83%) T= 8 Days (+0.48%/Day) Total Number Certified (12/26/23): 366 (∆% +22.81%) T= 31 Days (+0.74%/Day) Total Number Certified (01/16/24): 379 (∆% +3.55%) T= 21 Days (+0.17%/Day) Total Number Certified (02/16/24):… Read more »

AKBob

E1, nice, thanks for the in depth report on the ‘23 “V” Cent!! That’s a lot of really good information and breakdowns! I’ve still got a half dozen raw ones, a couple look pretty nice (I doubt any better than a 67 at best most likely) but I would need to really look at them very closely before I sent any in for grading. I have a nice collection of them graded MS65 – MS68. I’m watching closely at this “rarity” or “variety”, not sure which it is. I’d like for it to have a “rare” designation. I’m hoping it… Read more »

CaliSkier

Wow, thanks for the extensive breakdown of the 2023 “Extra V” cents and comparisons to previous issues E1! Curious if you were unable to locate mintages or don’t trust what’s published? PCGS, as well as “My Coin Guides” have some data published. I realize and maybe you left out(?), as the actual number of errantly minted coins, out of an entire mintage is unknown. However here are the listed mintages, with disclaimers. 1922 D – No D.……Mintage 7,160,000………Certified 3,799 ²
1955/55 DDO………Mintage 573,257,500….Certified 3,741²
1970-S SD RD BU…Mintage 693,192,814…Certified 4,157¹ 
1981-S Proof T2…..Mintage 4,063,083……..Certified 2,839 ¹
1995 (P) DDO…….Mintage 6,411,400,000.Certified 19,169² 1922-D: Mintage… Read more »

E 1

Guys, You’re welcome. I just collect and present the data as it comes down the pike. This allows you to draw your own conclusions. Cali, you could be right. There could be a jack pot box lurking out there somewhere. Or, someone could be sitting on a cache of V coins. But, it would take several thousand authenticated high-grade specimens to tilt the scale at this point. AKBob, after studying this coin and only this coin in depth for the last 16 months, I am convinced that it is a desirable coin to own. I own four of them and… Read more »

E 1

Rick,

We’re ready for your “mysterious NGC “First Releases” Extra V story.”



Rick

Thanks for the Extra ”V” report E1, First I’ll stay on topic to the article above for a sec, well sort of. I think the CCAC was reviewing the proposed Working Dog Commem a few weeks ago? Congress passed the Doggy deal so we’re going to get that Commem in a couple years?.. Back to the ’23 “V”. E1 thanks for the update. I especially like your comments section. It gives us your take on the situation without the formality of the data nearby. Keep it up. The basic comparatives of the “V” to the other significant Lincolns is good… Read more »

E 1

Rick,

The “Extra V” is numismatic history in the making and we are living it.

Your feedback is always appreciated. Looking forward to your update.

Cheers

Rick

I won’t drag it out too much(I hope). I’ll leave some of the back & forth with NGC out and just highlight the gist of the mysterious First Releases “V”coin story. The photo says it all as to what I picked up on the bay(except I can’t see the “V”–Ok I’m done complaining). The only NGC “V” coin in one of these FR holders as far as I have seen. And I have seen just as many “V” coins online as anyone else I would guess? So where is this supposed genuine certified coin and holder located within the vast… Read more »

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CaliSkier

Rick can you give us a pic of the coins obverse please? Also, IMO, that label gives this coin an extra allure on the secondary market and I’d keep it for a while, as somebody else is really going to want that “coin, w/that label, “Big Time”! Make sure to keep track of all the correspondence with all parties involved in trying to verify. Although it’s technically not supposed to exist, it does. The coins authenticity will more than likely come up(possibly?), when you end up bringing it to market and having verifiable proof would be beneficial, I’d think? When… Read more »

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VinnieC

CaliSkier,
I found the backside picture of the obverse on NGC Verify
https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/6531239-001/66/

Rick,
The curse of the front facing shield lives on.

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E 1

Yes, It is an “Extra V.” A Small die chip on the forehead confirms it.

E 1

Thanks VinnieC.

E 1

Rick,

I would like to see a glimpse of the obverse if possible. Just to conform if it is a “V” or not.

Also, it is called the “Numismatic GAURANTEE Company” for a reason. I would ask them to buy back the coin. $5,000 might be a good figure. I am sure they would like to make this coin go away.

Cheers

Rick

“Numismatic GUARANTEE Company”..Uh huh yep! I’ll hang on to the NGC FR “V” mystery coin for a bit. The market is flat at the moment, if not down a bit. Besides, I’m not interested in selling any of my V’s… One of the features of the Extra “V” coin that I like, and it keeps it interesting to me is the one and only Die Pair that these coins have(so far?). That is my conclusion after looking at around 100 separate hi-rez V images. Not to mention my own coins in hand. The Obverse has 4 distinctive Die markers(so far).… Read more »

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Rick

Reverse Image below…

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VinnieC

I can definitely see the 4 obverse die marker. I may are may not see something on the reverse on the shield. This on my two ANACS pennies.
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Rick

Most hi rez online photos, for example the coins with accompanying TrueView photos for the most part show the horizontal die chip/anomaly. I borrowed the above photos from the NGC site because it’s a well lit photo. I can personally attest to the marker being on all of my in hand coins. I’ll just say that it is more than 10 PCs. Since I don’t have the luxury of checking the thousands of V’s out there, I cannot guarantee that they all share the marker.
For me it’s really visible with a lighted magnifier of 30+x viewing.

E 1

Thanks for this great reference. I’ve been using it.

Major D

My sincere thanks to all of the adjunct professors here for this course on the 2023 Lincoln Extra “V”. Very informative!

Rick

“V” Nerds.

E 1

Copy That!

E 1

The Three “V’s” and the “Extra V” Forever.

Cheers

Rick

I was hoping to have an update on my ANACS to PCGS cross V coins by this week, but their progress seems to have slowed up some. It was right after I had confirmed/insisted that the obverse face forward with Isidro. That was right when they announced an encapsulation update of the coins. They might have had to crack them causing the delay?
I can only guess as to how much confusion and arbitrary decisions are made over there(and NGC)as to where the obverse belongs? I’ll update next week I would think?

E 1

Who was the lucky buyer?

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Rick

Good question, whoever it was got a great deal if these are to appreciate in the long term? Maybe it was someone who will benefit from a certain Mr Huang long term as well? If those 7 ANACS were to be crossed to PCGS, will ANACS ‘remove’ them from their database? Nope? Will PCGS ‘add’ their newly crossed coins to their database? Yep? The exact number of certified V coins on your report could be inaccurate E1?. The same can be asked as to how many do each TPG’s have exactly –or don’t? It is skewed? This is a legit… Read more »

E 1

Rick, The first dilemma is – We don’t know if these 7 coins will ever get crossed over or not. The second dilemma is – If they do get crossed, does the “Crossed Over To Party” notify the “Crossed Out Party” of the change? Something I do not know. I’ve never done a “Cross Over” from ANACS before. For me, I would look at the coins under a scope and consider a crack-out and a resubmit to another TPG – preferable NGC, since their distribution is normal. A CAC label might be better here. AKBob mentioned that the rate of… Read more »

E 1

Rick,

Keep me posted on your cross over experience.

The learning process continues….

Rick

Yes, we all can learn a thing or two(me three!). And yes, I don’t know the communication that they share regarding cross info either. When you consider the 1000’s of crosses between each other, possibly annually, my piddly 3 1C, & $1 must be a drop in the bucket. This is why I question the TPG’s numbers. If my ANACS -68 crosses to PCGS, it will be PCGS’s first ever MS68RD. This will be interesting to track at both of those TPG’s. I am anxiously waiting for the results(or not?).. If they do reject the cross, it is then that… Read more »

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E 1

Gold Sticker!

Great Coin Too.

Cheers

Rick

E1,
I’m anxiously awaiting for not only the possible PCGS MS68 ‘V’, but the 1887 $1 as well. That coin was the ultimate high risk cross.
I gave them the go-ahead with a crack-and-grade from scratch. With the CAC Gold in the back of their mind, it should get an MS66 I would think. My hope is for more with an MS66+, so we will see soon enough…
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Rick

E1,
Once you click the photo above, it opens on a new page.
Click the photo anywhere(center of coin) and you get a great zoom option…
What is your grade for this coin my Morgan friend? What will they grade it in your honest, unbiased opinion? (orig MS65)
Thanks
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E 1

OK Rick, Here you go good buddy. The Reverse: You have a full set of feathers on the breast and all talons are showing. So, the strike is excellent on the reverse. The centering is off some at the bottom of the coin. There are no sharp digs on the reverse anywhere and there are only a few very minor distractions in the fields. The color and eye appeal are great too. The Obverse: “Liberty” in the head band is full and deep. Liberty’s ear is full and deep. Curls are full too. So, the strike is full. The centering… Read more »

Rick

E1, Great summary, very insightful. Thank you and great tips on what to look for. I hope you are correct with your photograde analysis. I’ll take either one!(66-66+). No conservation, I like the natural look as well. Here’s another photo below of the obverse and I wish I had sent you this one earlier. I don’t see anything changing with your final analysis, but take a look. I zoomed/cropped it in some and it has good detail? You can tell it has different lighting and seems to disguise the 9:O’clock wisps, yet at the same time highlights the marks on… Read more »

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Rick

And what is next in line? I think you called it a “bagger” E1?.. This common, yet nifty coin below. It awaits a possible new grade(or not) soon. It’s in Newport Beach now and will be unpackaged on Monday!.. The Upgrade potential is different with this coin altogether. Instead of a crack-out-grade from scratch, I gave them a minimum grade of MS67+ to consider(in holder). This submission was a “Reconsideration” service since it’s a PCGS holdered coin. Not an NGC crossover service. They will either agree with my expectation of MS67+, or they will send it back to me as… Read more »

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E 1

Rick,

If the Reverse is as good as the Obverse, that coin should grade a 7. Technically, there appears to be a small sharp dig on Liberty’s throat. But, subjectively, all around, another great looking coin. I am curious to see how they handle that one. That CAC sticker certainty adds leverage to the process. Keep me posted.

You are learning the intricacies of the grading circuit. I am impressed and learning with you.

Cheers

Rick

I’m curious on this 1881-S as well. This one could be a favorable Risk/Reward, or a Risk/Consolation prize… I paid an MS67+ price for this MS66 coin($1700)so I have some skin in the game. I’ll break even if they reconsider the MS66 to an MS67+. I may need my beginners luck on this one!? This kind of stuff is sort of fun for me, it’s keeping the hobby fresh. I’m both experimenting and entertaining I suppose, not to mention gaining a few tips, do’s, & don’ts for myself and anyone that happens to be lurking around… The reverse looks good… Read more »

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E 1

Historically, the 1881-S appreciates at a rate of 50% per decade. These “S” and “O” mint coins have been great. But, I am surprised that you haven’t been going after the “CC” coins. They perform better and they always sell. Also, the PLs and DMPLs are pretty spectacular too. The proof Morgans are in a league of their own too.

E 1

Rick,

I picked this up last week. To dip or not to dip. What do you think?

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Rick

That right there is right up your alley my friend!
Dude, I had to look it up just to be sure–Yep “FBL” all the way!
Dip it! Nice coin, if anyone can give it new life–it is you…
It looks to have languished in a Mint Set for decades?
An Album would not allow that type of toning & residue to sneak in, or would it? What’s your take?..
I saw this Walker below the other day and thought of you!
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/vCMAAOSwaIdma3TI/s-l1600.webp

E 1

That one above completes the Franklin Set. I started it in the early 1990’s. I already have both of the 47 Walkers – but thanks anyways. Just looking for a couple of D & S mint Walkers for now. It will take me a year or two to finish the Walker Set as I like to take my time. That keeps me from having to take public transit and eating baked beans.

Cheers

Rick

Both sets are masterpieces in the making, I’m sure of that.
That Franklin set has been patiently waiting!
The question remains–to dip, or not to dip the FBL Franklin above? Or will it remain with its unique toning in a graded set?
If it’s a go ahead to restore then you must keep up with tradition–to update it’s progress.

E 1

Rick,

Very astute point and observation on the possible mint set residency of the coin. Huh…. If I go for the dip, I will update you with the photos. And yes, “Everyone Loves a Masterpiece!” Art Qua Art.

Cheers

Rick

And the aesthetic is there.. I’ve never seen it that golden toned on Silver? If you dip it you’ll see the Silver Sticker Shock! It’s much richer than this beauty that you recommended we take a look at many months ago. The ’98-S is not necessarily toned, but it sure looks like it is? Beautiful SP-Coins…
This is my 2nd one of these. The deeper than normal pearlescent color on this one sold me. My 1st one was much more muted but just as stunning…
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Rick

E1, I do like CC Morgans and have 3 GSA’s in those classic holders. I have one 1884-O Morgan coin that is PL and I really like that one! Check that, I have 2 GSA slabs now. The MS65 & up GSA’s are on my radar, but I try to find a good coin inside a bad GSA holder so it can be slim pickings from time to time. My last one you may have seen in passing–I did a re-holder from a bad GSA to a modern holder. I liked the result.. Before photo: The reverse had the curse… Read more »

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Rick

And the 1883-CC GSA in it’s new holder.
Very pleased with the result, not to mention the storage perks. It is also due up for a Green CAC since the former holder had one on it. I retained the cert# and it’s in the CAC database. I just need to pay for a new one and send it in…
I intend to do it again, given a qualifying poor GSA slab situation…

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E 1

I use to have a near complete set of PCGS CC Morgans back in the day. I also had a 1880-1885 CC GSA set. If I were to go back to CC Morgans again, I would buy the NGC strapped GSA coins. I remember buying some CC Morgans from the “Carson City King.” I don’t know if he is still around.

E 1

Still one of my all-time favorite coins. I have noted the matte pearlescent sheen to be elusive. The sheen phenomena might be delicate and easy to damage with dipping. I have never tried to dip one of these. Back in the day, I purchased four of these sets from the mint. I sent all four Kennedy’s to PCGS and they all graded MS-69. I think centering was the issue. I sold two, gave one away, and used the proceeds to buy a 70. I’m pretty sure this will be a money coin down the road. Number 23 in the “100… Read more »

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Rick

Nice coins E, I just looked on ebay, many are the silver/grey matte as opposed to the pearl tone. A few are in between. Interesting as to why these differ in tone? Also it looks like at some point PCGS changed the MS to SP on these, makes sense though, it sure is indeed a “Special Strike”! The 98-S Mintage is on the lower end as well? Great recommendation right there. It’s in my top 3 Kennedys sitting next to the 2014 Enhanced DMPL, and ’65-’67 DCAM’s that I don’t have all yet(one ’67 x MS-67 DCAM=very nice). NGC strapped… Read more »

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E 1

Rick,

Great coin, and good to know about that wear pattern on the strap. NGC should add some kind of scotch tape bumper or layer to their straps. Superb coin Rick.

Rick

E1,
I guess we have our own blog here lol.
Anyone can jump in though? The more the merrier when it comes to coin talk and/or show & tell!
One more show & tell and I’ll leave it be–for now..
I’ve been a little distracted on the Morgan pursuits the last couple of months, with the exception of the Gold CAC coin recently…Why distracted? I’ve been bargain hunting for a couple of Keeper Kennedys. Here’s one of them below. It’s also in Newport Beach today getting a makeover Restoration & Re-Holder gift.
Freak out on this one…

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Rick

And a very nice MS69 reverse…
Great coin.
E1 I think you may have quoted something interesting before:
“At MS68 in Silver, a new dimension opens up”(or something to that effect?)…
I think you’re onto something!

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E 1

Rick,

I’ve seen that coin before. I remember the spot on the obverse. That spot might be a tough one to get out. That is why I didn’t buy it. If the makeover can get that spot out, you’re looking at $12-15K coin. I would say very very rare in that grade. Definitely in the Outer Limits. The pop is about 4 I think? Great coin though. Keep me posted Rick. I’ve enjoyed all of your coins immensely.

Cheers

Spot-Copy
Rick

E1, Thanks for your kind coin words, everything that I’ve seen in your collection is the quality benchmark on what to aspire to. The NGC strapped Morgan is not mine, but I had a photo handy that highlights the damage. I look for damaged GSA & straps for deals. The 1976-S popped up 6 weeks ago in my saved searches that I check now & again. There are 5 at PCGS, and 5 at NGC in MS69. I wouldn’t think that many become available at just 10 coins in the grade? But as highlighted below, there seems to be some… Read more »

E 1

Rick, If they get that spot out; I’ll be impressed. Keep me posed on that one. Ocular proof will be required. Also, in my vast technical experiences, I did some work with water saws. You know, 10,000 PSI of pressurized water through a pin hole nozzle that can cut steel and aluminum CNC style. I was wondering if a low pressure model with a vision system could be developed to remove calcium from metal without removing any metal. That would be a boon for guys like us. I am sure through experimentation, the right pressure, angle, and nozzle size could… Read more »

Rick

E1, A precision power wash sounds good to me. Rumor has it that there are up & coming techniques like lazer, and ultrasonics to restore/clean coins?. Next up? AI grading. Now NVDA can get back to work and quit messing around! I would be impressed as well, but I’m not counting on the spot disappearing. If they can reduce it some that would be great. I’m hopeful on the translucent water spots as well. Either way I’m happy with my purchase. I have looked at 4 other coins in this grade and I’ll tell you what. There is something I… Read more »

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E 1

I think it could be done with a high-pressure gas. A gas does have mass or weight. Gas molecules are much smaller than water molecules. Gas would be lighter and less destructive than water. An inert noble gas like nitrogen would be a good candidate to start with. Kind of like a sandblaster at the atomic level. We would just have to develop a high precision nozzle and an apparatus. Then add a high magnification vision system. I think this could be done.

Rick

That would be good, and most likely coming down the pike.
A new grading system may need to join in.
For example. My coin was just awarded an PF70DCAM with a micro grade of ⨧∓∛∹ (coefficient OF 70/68)…
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

E 1

⨧∓∛ ??????? I don’t know that one.

But Hey! NVDA +7.98 at the close today and +1.44 after hours!

Share Holder’s meeting on Wednesday the 26th tomorrow.

+++++ I do know this one.

Cheers

Rick

Yes indeed NVDA! +++++ It’s interesting to see the ‘dichotomy'(if that’s the right word?)in comparison with the DOW and PM’s today… I won’t take any credit, but last night I did say this… ” Next up? AI grading. Now NVDA can get back to work and quit messing around!”… Some more submission show & tell coming up. I’ve got some interesting coin stories ahead. And since the TPG’s are quite helpful in increasing the value of my OGP, re-holdered, crossed, restored & re-considered coins by up to 40%, I’m a happy camper and have been busy… Some people think that the… Read more »

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E 1

Ok, that’s one insane piece. You gotta like it! I think you’re on a roll Rick. Another Rock Star Coin in the Box. “You see what you have done to me E1?” Yes, you’ve become an expert and you’re having a great time. The great escape. Isn’t it awesome! Back in the day, I remember buying coins and stamps from mail order catalogs and magazines. Sometimes making purchases over the phone. My dad would take us to the Westchester Stamp and Coin show once a year as kids. Today, we’ve got eBay, Great Collections, TV Coin Shows, Third Party Grading,… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Sorry guys, that “own blog” mention by Rick gave me such a good laugh that I just couldn’t stifle myself. In all seriousness, Rick and E 1, this thread with your back and forth thoughts traded via each of your comments on it has been uninteruptedly interesting, extremely educational and thanks to all of the coin photos you’ve both been kind enough to share, also visually exceptionally appealing.

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Rick

Thanks Kaiser!
It’s fun, entertaining, and interesting for me no doubt. E1 said it best a while back–“this is a place to escape”(to coin talk)..
I’m picking up little tips & tricks as I go, mistakes are accepted too. As AKBob says, it’s my coin collecting tuition. I didn’t excell all that well with the 3 R’s in school, but show and tell was a winner!.

Kaiser Wilhelm

You’re most welcome, Rick; there’s no doubt it is always my pleasure to give credit where it is most definitely due. It is after all because of folks like you that this place is chock full of the interesting content that makes it such a very satisfactory draw for so many collectors who stay to share. By the way, formal schooling, however much it is designed to teach us and however valuable it is for our long term development, is nevertheless just the warm up, the practice, the pre-season for what is to come later. It is the years of… Read more »

Rick

Ok, since I’m on a roll with grading/authenticating my coins, here’s another result that just arrived today… Before I hear the snickering on my 2 ‘world’ coins, let me say this; I’m gathering up as many as possible my OGP(new & old) and other loose coins(like seen below) to be authenticated & graded for the ease and value that potentially will help my family out later on. The coins are my gifts to them. This is all about keeping it simple for them to liquidate if chosen. They don’t know anything about coins and this effort should help?.. Yes, they… Read more »

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Rick

And the back of the holders below…

Website shared order linked fyi…
https://www.pcgs.com/shared-orders/order-details/24023065

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Rick,
With regard to the “which side of the coin ends up facing front and which instead finds itself facing backwards in the holder” conundrum, I will offer an answer on the admittedly absurd but ironically somehow possible level, which is that it’s simply all done haphazardly akin to a game of catch as catch can, or yet more ironically and as such likely even more bizarrely so, and I must say I can barely contain myself proposing this, by a simple flip of the flippin’ coin. Stranger things are possible.

Rick

It’s just weird to see such differing placements of the obverse to the front of the holder(or not) on any coins. I always thought that the Obverse is more important than the reverse, but what do I know? Perhaps their logic is that Mr Kruger, who’s name is implemented into the coins’ name “Krugerrand” takes precedent for front placement? And since the Canadian coin is called a “Maple Leaf” then that takes precedent for front placement? One might think that the Queen of England profile would at least have some seniority over both of those countries for one reason or… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Rick, I’ve been reading your adventures with the third party grader world regarding obverse and reverse placement, grading decisions, cross-over possibilities and who knows how many other topics (there are just too many options, specifics and variables for me to keep track of all of them) with a great deal of interest. Furthermore, I must say I find those reproduced back and forth communications that you exchanged with them especially fascinating! On the one subject though, that of whether or not (at least for the sheer sake of consistency if nothing else) the obverse of a coin should always face… Read more »