35th Anniversary American Eagle Bidding Begins at Stack’s Bowers Galleries

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Stack’s Bowers Galleries (StacksBowers.com) opened online bidding Thursday, Aug. 10, for the classic and new design 2021 American Eagle gold and silver bullion coins which former U.S. Mint Director David J. Ryder personally struck last year at the West Point Mint.

VERY FIRST American Silver Eagle Struck, New Design
2021 American 1 Ounce Silver Eagle at Dawn and at Dusk 35th Anniversary Coin. New Design, Eagle Landing. The VERY FIRST Silver Eagle Struck. MS-70 (NGC). Current Bid: $2,000. (Photo credit: Stack’s Bowers Galleries)

The U.S. Mint awarded Stack’s Bowers the contract to auction the coins. Dubbed the American Eagle At Dusk and At Dawn 35th Anniversary Auction, bidding has already reached several thousand dollars for some of the most desirable offerings.

Up for auction are the final 500 coins each of the classic gold and silver 1-ounce bullion coins and the first 500 coins each of the new gold and silver 1-ounce coins.

The auction includes 700 lots in total. They includes single coins and lots with pairings of the classic and new design American Eagles. Half of the coins are graded by Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS), while the other half are graded by Numismatic Guaranty Company (NGC).

Live bidding begins and ends on Sept. 1.

The U.S. Mint’s Aug. 10 media announcement about the coins and auction follows.

2021 American Eagle at Dusk and at Dawn 35th Anniversary Gold and Silver One-Ounce Coins To Be Sold at Auction September 1

The United States Mint (Mint) is pleased to announce the public auction on September 1 of special limited editions of 2021 American Eagle at Dusk and at Dawn 35th Anniversary One-Ounce American Eagle Bullion Coins. These limited-edition coins marking transition between old and new designs were produced during a special April 2021 ceremony. The event featured the striking of the last of the American Gold Eagle and American Silver Eagles bearing their original designs and the production of first of those coins featuring the new design.

"By offering these unique coin sets for auction, we are reaching out to the broadest audience possible," said United States Mint Director Ventris C. Gibson. "It is an exciting opportunity to celebrate a historic transition in American coin design, and to reinforce the worldwide appeal of numismatics, whether collecting for the artistic fascination of the hobby or for the potential investment value."

Stack’s Bowers Galleries will conduct the auction at its headquarters in Costa Mesa, CA, at 1550 Scenic Ave. #150, on September 1, and auction attendees will have the option of participating in-person and virtually, at www.stacksbowers.com, or by calling 800-458-4646 or 949-253-0916.

Prior to auction, samples of the coins will be on display at the American Numismatic Association’s 2022 Chicago World’s Fair of Money® from August 16-20, 2022 in the Donald E. Stephens Convention Center, Hall F, 5555 N River Rd, Rosemont (Chicago), IL 60018, at United States Mint booth 1925 and at Stack’s Bowers booth 1006.

The newly designed gold coins have been paired with those with the original gold design, and placed with redesigned silver coins paired with coins of the original silver design, to form extraordinarily unique sets. These historical coins will be auctioned off in single lots, two-coin lots, and four-coin lots.

Former United States Mint Director David J. Ryder personally struck the bullion coins offered at auction, operating the coin presses at the Mint’s West Point, NY, production facility in April 2021. Numismatic Guaranty Company (NGC) and Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS) have certified, graded, and packaged all the coins at auction. The coins are accompanied by a Certificate of Authenticity.

In 2021, for the first time since their introduction more than three decades before, the reverse (tails) of American Eagle Gold and Silver Bullion Coins debuted newly designed depictions of eagles.

The redesigned American Eagle Gold Bullion Reverse design depicts a close-up image of an eagle. Mint Artistic Infusion Program (AIP) designer Jennie Norris created the design that was sculpted by Mint Medallic Artist Renata Gordon. Inscriptions are "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA," "E PLURIBUS UNUM," "IN GOD WE TRUST," "50 DOLLARS," and "1 OZ. FINE GOLD."

The coins’ obverse (heads) features Augustus Saint-Gaudens’ full-length figure of Liberty with flowing hair, holding a torch in her right hand and an olive branch in her left. Using technical advancements, the United States Mint returned to its original historical assets to render a current design that is a closer reflection of Saint-Gaudens’ original vision and detail. Inscriptions are "LIBERTY" and "2022."

The redesigned American Silver Bullion Reverse depicts an eagle as it approaches a landing, carrying an oak branch, as if to add it to a nest. Inscriptions are "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA," E PLURIBUS UNUM," "1 OZ. FINE SILVER" and "ONE DOLLAR." Artistic Infusion designer Emily Damstra created the design, which was sculpted by Mint Medallic Artist Michael Gaudioso.

The obverse (heads) of the silver coin features a refreshed depiction of Adolph A. Weinman’s full-length figure of Liberty in full stride, enveloped in folds of the flag, with her right hand extended and branches of laurel and oak in her left. For the 2021 coin, the United States Mint returned to its original historical assets to render a closer reflection of Weinman’s original vision, including the addition of his traditional artist mark.

In addition, the Mint introduced anti-counterfeiting features, including a reeded edge variation on the one-ounce bullion coins (only).

About the United States Mint

Congress created the United States Mint in 1792, and the Mint became part of the Department of the Treasury in 1873. As the Nation’s sole manufacturer of legal tender coinage, the Mint is responsible for producing circulating coinage for the Nation to conduct its trade and commerce. The Mint also produces numismatic products, including proof, uncirculated, and commemorative coins; Congressional Gold Medals; silver and bronze medals; and silver and gold bullion coins. Its numismatic programs are self-sustaining and operate at no cost to taxpayers.

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LEE

yes another American classic for you to spend your hard earned dollars on. Good luck everyone for i will not partake in this adventure

Larry

I already have these coins. Why would I want to bid on them? I guess they need more money. Just wait for the 87K new IRS clones to do their job (extract every last penny out of us!) I don’t think this country can get much dumber, but I seem to be proved wrong every day.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Larry and LEE,

Just in case anyone hasn’t yet noticed, this ultimately expensive Mint extravaganza, accompanied by such enthusiastically elaborate fanfare, is all about silver BULLION grade coins which by any other name are quite simply and in plain fact the U.S. Mint’s version of silver ROUNDS.

It therefore seems incumbent upon us that we give the good folks at the Mint proper and ample credit for having figured out exactly how to pre-empt the dealers, buying groups, flippers and any other resellers out there by being clever enough to grift the American public all by themselves.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Why thank you, Major D.

You may have noticed that of late I have adopted a new outlook and given the Mint the benefit of the doubt in all of its proceedings. Every now and then, however, regardless of that revised vision it does appear to become incumbent upon me to call a spade a nefarious spade.

SENZA

Even when I’m not here your a babbling MORON, attention seeking charlatan and pathetic Turd
CHARLATAN :one making usually showy pretenses to knowledge or ability : A TRUE FRAUD AND FAKE a charlatan is willing to do and say virtually anything to remain in the spotlight
You have taken every cheap shot possible at anyone who contributes, plays well and shares with other’s because you crave the spotlight – your despicable

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Jeff Legan

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JWP

You do know that if you have never seen it before it’s new therefore it doesn’t matter how many times he repeats it if you haven’t seen it before it’s new. You do know that if you have never seen it before it’s new therefore it doesn’t matter how many times he repeats it if you haven’t seen it before it’s new.

Jeff Legan

Ouch, SENZA. This is the fourth meme Major D has used against you today. That has got to sting a meme lover like you. And not one is a repeat. He makes you look like an amateur.

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SENZA

Major Dumb Dumb a figment of Turd Kaiser Imagination

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Jeff Legan

ZEROSENZA,
I understand now. You actually love Kaiser Wilhelm! You cannot get him out of your mind. Him and his friend are talking U.S. Mint, you are talking…Kaiser Wilhelm. This latest nugget of yours just came out of the blue. What does it have to do with anything? That is actually you sitting on the bench, isn’t it, pretending your love is watching the Sun set (it ever only sets in your world) with you. If only he could see you are worthy! You’ll show him! He’ll see!

Jeff Legan

Ouch, SENZA. It is getting worse. Not only is Major D using memes better than you are, he is using your exact same memes against you.

Jeff Legan

Hi Larry, From what I have read, the new hires will be for auditing high net worth individuals, who are currently audited at a far lower rate than low net worth individuals, but are responsible for by far the largest chunk of tax evasion. If you are high net worth, you still probably have little to worry about. This probably means you might get audited once in your life instead of never. And of course, If your taxes are on the up and up, you have no worries at all. Your lawyers and the IRS lawyers will meet and discuss,… Read more »

chuck

Perhaps paying for your lawyer might be a problem?!

Jeff Legan

Not if you are already high net worth. I think for people in those high income brackets, having a lawyer handy for financial matters is already a given.

chuck

I was not referring to high net worth (or high income people) people. They already know how to “legally” cut their taxes and even this bill still allows certain loop holes for them. Rest assured most of the new ones will still be used to go after those that they have always gone after (those well below even their $400,000 amount).

Jeff Legan

Oh, ok. Perhaps if we all keep an eye on the IRS, we can make sure they do not get diverted. I also happened to see a new article about this very issue just a few minutes ago. They said “That 87,000 estimate represents everything from IT techs to customer service people who answer the phone and help you file your return. Second, it includes attrition. For some perspective, the IRS workforce last year (see Table 31) totaled 78,661 full-time equivalent positions—down from 94,709 a decade earlier.” and “How many new enforcement personnel would the IRS actually hire? According to a May 2021 Treasury report that… Read more »

Larry

Jeff,

Do you actually believe they require 87,000 new IRS agents to audit high end individuals? In 2021 75% of audits were for people making $250K and less. People that don’t have access to CPA’s or attorneys. I do have a very good CPA and yes I have been audited. They found nothing. If you think the billionaires don’t have the best people covering their money from tax liabilities then you are naïve at the least.

Jeff Legan

Not sure, Larry. But I am willing to give it chance. I am well aware the IRs budget has been cut pretty heavily in the past 20 years and audits of high net worth individuals are practically nonexistent anymore. I do recall an article mentioning that high net worth individuals have very complicated finances (Trump has over 500 “companies” under his control, for example) so they need a lot of people to do one investigation. How long do you think it would take just one IRS agent to determine whether Trump is fully reporting his income?. There would be no… Read more »

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East Coast Guru

Hi Jeff, this is the part that bothers me with the IRS agents and the job description “Requirements include working min “50 hours per week, which may include irregular hours, and be on-call 24/7, including holidays and weekends” and “Carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force, if necessary.”. Do to outcry from everyone the IRS modified the job description, but still, very concerning they are recruiting a weaponized tax collecting force.

Jeff Legan

Yes, I saw just a little about the outcry (one paragraph, I think it was) and was wondering what the whole story is. That is my thing. I really like to gather as much data as possible before making absolute declarations on stuff. Like, I know tax collectors have been unpopular and targets for violence for as long as there have been tax collectors. Something to do with that, or some kind of new thing? I see the last reply I just made (to chuck) is “awaiting approval”.

Rooster

I like to keep it to coins but to have a job description that says are you willing to kill fellow Americans should concern all.

Kaiser Wilhelm

But aren’t the enforcement divisions of government agencies armed as a matter of course? Since criminals are armed, doesn’t it make sense for those in law enforcement to be able to defend themselves?

Rooster

Kaiser: Sure but after 2 years of Burn Loot Murder and law enforcement ordered to stand down now is not the time for this.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rooster,

I am not in any way referring to street violence as that is not within the scope of the IRA’s responsibilities. What I am referring to, and here I am employing a recent example, is the likes of the current situation where FBI agents are being physically threatened personally and individually after the fact for simply acting upon a legal search warrant. If that can happen to the FBI with a white collar target, then IRS agents had better be prepared for some or more of the same when it comes time for them to conduct a similar operation.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

However, Rooster, if law enforcement has in fact been “ordered to stand down” then arming certain IRS personnel would seem to be a reversal of that stand down order, so isn’t that then a move back in the right direction?

As far as BLM being responsible for trouble, I agree, but let’s meanwhile not forget the dangerous goons of the various right-wing white supremacist movements running amok with their open carry mania scaring the living daylights out of the average law-abiding citizen.

Kaiser Wilhelm

That very point was made last night by a former Republican Congressman, so it’s not like you’re at all off the mark, Major D.

Coinman

Trump is living in your head rent free!!!!!!!

Jeff Legan

Yes, I agree it is concerning but we do not have the whole story yet. At least I do not. I saw no explanation in the article I saw about why the IRS wanted armed agents. Just off the top of my head, I can think of one possibility. How likely it is, I do not know. What if the Feds are raiding a mobster or drug gang or someone along those lines? Would they need IRS people there to “secure” the books? I don’t know. I could see a shootout in a situation like that. If I was the… Read more »

Jeff Legan

Hi Rooster, I just saw another article today about the armed agents, It was from “the Hill”, here is the pertinent part.: “The IRS criminal investigation division (IRS-CI), who are federal law enforcement officials like the FBI and U.S. Marshals, told The Hill that they are not going after any one segment of American taxpayers other than people who cheat on their taxes. The division said in a statement to The Hill that its “special agents are sworn law enforcement agents investigating tax crimes and criminal activities that may include gangs, drug dealers, and other dangerous criminals. In order to… Read more »

Coinman

Hey Jeff, Why does Trump always have to dance in yours and many others hypothetical analysis of IRS audits? Why not substitute the immensly corrupt Biden or his totally corrupt son, Hunter, as examples in your theory? I am sick and tired of most people on this comment page always attacking and ridiculing the best president this country has ever had in modern history!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Coinman,

To imagine a seditionist sociopath is the “best president this country has ever had in modern history” flies directly in the face of reality. The mere thought that endorsing that fantasy means your sentiments mirror his is frightening.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Coinman (some further thoughts),

As I mention farther down in this thread, we each definitely have our own particular view, don’t we? And it’s a wonderful thing the foundation of our country makes it possible for us to be able to express that!

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Coinman

Kaiser,
I just scrolled down and noticed this post above. In this case you are exactly right and I totally support your view. We are after all living in the land of the free, aren’t we? God bless you.

Coinman

Major D,
Yes, this is the land of the free, Trump or not. Unfortunately, under this feeble and feckless Biden, the land is starting to resemble a bananna nation. And no, I won’t leave God out of it.

Coinman

My, my, I do think I hit a nerve. Guess what? I hardly ever use God with the exception to mention Him when someone sneezes in my presence. It’s been a habit of mine since childhood. However, I don’t have to explain myself to a bellicose non-believer or whatever you are. Go tell your president about the “rule of law.” Send him down to the so called border when you tell him about it.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Ouch and ouch again, Coinman and Major D, First of all, let me say that the last thing I want to do is to get involved in the specifics of your ongoing differences of opinion. However, since you are both not just highly valued members of this little community but also a couple of very astute fellow collectors with whom I enjoy and appreciate communicating with regularly it very much pains me to see you at such continuous loggerheads. I feel myself obliged to humbly point out just as a bit of a reminder one of the most important ingredients… Read more »

Coinman

Kaiser,
Sorry my friend, it is not my imagination but down to earth facts. Unfortunately your Trump Derangement Syndrome is quite serious. Please seek some help. I am asking you as a friend.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Hi again Coinman, Now that we’re at least several far more convivial comments beyond all that political silliness and balderdash, some rather funny things have come to mind for me. For example, taking off from that basic idea of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) I came up with a similar “ailment” in reference to the other individual, to wit, BFD (Biden Fixation Disorder). Now we have to find reliable clinics to treat either or both of these aberrations and then get Medicare to agree to pay for these sure to be costly services. Perhaps there will even be the necessity for… Read more »

Coinman

Hi Kaiser,
Not only are a superior intellect, but you have a great sense of humor! I mean that sincerely! Good talking to you, and thanks again for the great wit. Stay well.

Kaiser Wilhelm

It truly touches my heart to be able to read such very warm and kind words, Coinman; you are, Sir, as they say, a gentleman and a scholar. That we accept differences of opinion on certain issues without discord illustrates the level of respect and the high regard we share. Always nice to exchange thoughts and many thanks for your good wishes.

Jeff Legan

Hi Coinman, thanks for your comments. I used Trump because he fit the example at the time (he is the only person’s name I know that has so many companies and I figured Larry and Rooster and anyone else listening would know who he was, and that, yes, he really does have that many companies). I do not know how many companies Biden has under his control. Do you? As far as Hunter Biden goes, I think he is taking as much advantage of his relatives being in government as nearly every relative of a high ranking government official has… Read more »

Jeff Legan

Hi Major D, Nobody is going to convince anyone of that by yelling. The conditions in the country right now did not get that way in one day and it is not going to be fixed unless we cannot talk like adults. I believe Coinman and Kaiser Wilhelm were good, Hope you are not changing that. I saw you were a bit sensitive about a Coast Guard comment earlier. I believe he was making a joke (emoji), as he was a Navy man. If you are having a bad day, I am sorry. Looks like our resident troll is back,… Read more »

Jeff Legan

one small typo-“can talk like adults”, not “cannot”. sorry.

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Jeff Legan

Hi again Major D, I was more concerned with rising temperature than your criticism’s of my comments so I did not respond in the first one, but I will now- I think you might want to re-read them. Maybe even Coinman’s and Kaiser Wilhelm’s exchange again. One problem is not all the comments each individual make end up in chronological order every time, so it can be disjointed. Mine are not all in order, either. They were quite cordial by the end. They Agreed to Disagree. A perfectly fine ending. I did not throw Hunter Biden into it, I responded… Read more »

Coinman

Hi Jeff, You make some good points in your argument. By the way, I would like to point out that Biden is definitely a compromised president who puts this country at risk. But then again, it’s not him that’s running the country but Obama’s henchmen and maybe even Obama himself. As for whose children would fare worse under investigation, as far as we know, the Trumps have not been hired by any Chinese or Ukranian companies as figureheads to be sent millions of dollars for their influence peddling. Just saying. But I definitely agree that these type of discussions are… Read more »

Jeff Legan

Hello again Coinman, I will reiterate my point–Both sides need to be investigated. Ideally at the same time, and probably constantly. The Obama stuff seems pretty weird to me, Coinman. Can you honestly believe a Black man that nobody had even heard of pre-2008 in less than 15 years is now secretly running the country? This country? I think you should be calling him the Genius, not Trump. I imagine if/when they investigate Hunter Biden, they will find it is shady, but perfectly legal, as the wealthy always take pains to point out when their cushy deals come to light.… Read more »

Coinman

Hi Jeff. Thanks for the sanity you bring to the table. Thank you for your rational argument for peace. I do respect your opinion. Thanks again.

Coinman

Major D,
All I can say to your above rant is: Trump Derangement Syndrome. You can not see straight due to your illness. Please get better.

Coinman

Major D, Please get help for your TDS! You seem to have a terribly serious case. Once you’re under treatment, maybe you can lessen your idiotic donations to your destructive Democrats.

Coinman

Oh, Major D, you poor soul. How your illness has affected your reasoning. The guy who putting a target on law enforcement for doing their job? WTF are you talking about? Criminal enterprises, putting the country on the precipice of destruction? Are you insane? The only person destroying this country is Biden and his Obama led henchmen along with the evil woke progressives in the Democratic party! And I am the one who sick of people like you supporting one of the most corrupt goverments this country ever had to suffer through.

Coinman

You poor ignorant soul. Trump will be your president shortly. Then what will you do? Move to Canada? Ha, ha.

SENZA

Your the “Mini” ” Dumber” version of Kaiser that’s why nobody listens to your Gibberish

And you forgot to pick up your name tag

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Jeff Legan

Hey Sunshine,
Its been quite pleasant without you the last 4 days. I believe quite a few people are listening. I see you finally found a use for your old nametag. Are you having fun?

Jeff Legan

Ouch, SENZA. This one must have particularly hurt. He is using your precious meme’s against you! Oh, the horror!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Larry, It just occurred to me to ask what exactly the IRS has to do with this coin auction. You lost me there. On the other hand, as far as some of the people in America being dumber than ever, I certainly can’t disagree with that. With a third of the population so totally enamored of the biggest snake oil salesman in history to have ever held the highest office that they are willing to swallow wholesale his ludicrous and literally seditious claims of a “stolen” election, I can’t argue with the idea that we have a sizeable number of… Read more »

Jeff Legan

Wow. First time ever. You both technically agree. You just disagree which people. Perhaps we should leave it at that.

Kaiser Wilhelm

All of the above is true, Jeff Legan. And yes, leaving it at that is wise.

Coinman

Kaiser, long time no talk. Your labeling of Trump as the biggest snake oil salesman in history to have ever held the highest office is mean spirited and FALSE! I hate to say this to such a savy and intelligent commentator such as yourself, but I do believe that you are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome! What other president has accomplished so much in 4 short years as this one did, all while being harassed, investigated and undergoing 2 attempts at impeachment? It’s time to chill, reflect and hope for 4 more years in 2024.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Coinman, likewise; I’ve always enjoyed our conversations and am very happy to be able to engage again! Welcome back indeed! While I am aware that we tend to disagree 100% when it comes to the matter of current politics, I don’t in the least consider that to be an impediment to our ability to communicate. After all, who doesn’t have contrary opinions one way or the other these days. Besides, there is a lot more to life than which talking head or stuffed shirt is running the show at any given time. The nation carries on. I think the Covid-19… Read more »

Jeff Legan

Coinman and Kaiser Wilhelm,
It did my heart good to see this exchange. This is way better than ending with a shouting match and a hardening of positions from both sides. Disagreements should be settled with Logic and Persuasion, not Emotion and Volume. If no one is persuaded, agree to disagree. You can always add a point or two in your favor in future comments. It usually takes time to change anyone’s mind one way or the other. Thanks guys!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Jeff Legan,

I don’t think I am in the least bit exaggerating when I say that your calming influence is one of the best things to happen to this site in ages. Thanks so much for doing your best to help bring peace to our little world here.

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Coinman

Kaiser,

AMEN!!

FViia

Cult? Most people that I know that are intellectually dishonest voted for Brandon. Now that is a cult, with severe logic problems. Everything Brandon has touched has gone to the crapper. Didn’t you also just teach us recently that Major D stood for Major Dvmbass, and that coming from your spouse? I might have got that wrong, but in reading your comments maybe not. Don’t throw stones in your glass house.

Jeff Legan

I cannot blame you for responding, FViia. Thanks for showing some restraint. I do not know if Major D can see that, but I do. I can see you have been paying attention to at least some recent comments, too. So, since it appears you have been paying attention, care to share your thoughts about insults on this site? Do you think I am wasting my time trying to eliminate them, or do you think the idea has merit? Honestly, I think even now we are making progress. There are always setbacks (2 steps forward, 1 step back). SENZA is… Read more »

Jeff Legan

Hi Major D, I think you were a bit too quick to jump in with insults this time. You responded to Coinman and Kaiser Wilhelms’ discussion with strong words when they were already good by the time you responded. Then FViia jumped in to respond to yours. It takes time to make change. To me, both Coinman and FViia are new to this radical idea of cutting out insults on this site, so they deserved a break. (Personally, I find it sad that the idea of not insulting someone is considered radical) I do not know how much people have… Read more »

Jeff Legan

Yeah, and I just read them again after I posted that last reply. I just do not understand how you are going to make politics off limits here without help from the people who run this site. I think that is more impossible than stopping insults here. I would prefer talking here, and doing any fighting through the ballot box. Do you not think with all the bad news that is currently rocking Trumps’ world, that the Trump supporters here might be a bit more defensive than usual? I can give them a bit of a break just for that… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

FViia and Major D,

It is effectively as distressing to see two of my coin collecting compatriots go after each other like that as it is to be caught in the thick of one of those contentious disagreements myself. Yikes!

Jeff Legan

I am still good, Kaiser Wilhelm. Hopefully, Major D is too.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I understand that this is still all a work in progress, Jeff Legan, but I nevertheless continue to believe we are at long last headed in the right direction. My fervent hope is that what are for the most part comparatively minor differences of opinion will not have the effect of reversing the course of improvement that we are now on.

Jeff Legan

I completely agree, Kaiser Wilhelm. Nothing today has changed my optimism. And nobody takes SENZA seriously anymore. All his angry words have completely lost their sting to anyone who has been watching the past few weeks. I would also like to remind everyone that this is not the kind of fight that we will ever be able to declare complete victory over (Time to put our feet up! Nope!!). Much like freedom, the fight for civil discourse online (and in person!) will always require vigilance. I do fully expect we will eventually be able to go for long periods of… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

That is a whole series of excellent points, Jeff Legan. The one that stands out most prominently for me is the idea that having a peaceful arena in which to share and discuss things numismatic is not something we can simply take for granted.
With a helping of sincere cumulative effort and a dollop of mutual respect I believe this little coin haven of ours will constitute a positive place for all those who are willing to subscribe and contribute to its successful future.

FViia

I am sorry you feel so hurt Major D.

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Jeff Legan

Thank you for this temperature lowering post, FViia. I truly appreciate it.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Sometimes, Jeff Legan, it appears the efforts expended to encourage a reconciliation process have to sit and simmer for a while as the Sturm und Drang clouds wend their irritated wispy ways into the heavens. Just like love, you can’t hurry peace.

Kaiser Wilhelm

FViia and Major D,

It pains me to see two of my compares here at such dogged loggerheads. Isn’t there some room and/or hope for reconciliation?

Kaiser Wilhelm

One thing I can offer as food for thought, FViia and Major D, is that what you two, just as so many others of us here, have in common coin-wise outweighs in importance by leaps and bounds whatever disagreements we may sometimes have in the extra-numismatic realm.

Coinman

Again, Major D, WTF are you ranting about? I am not going to list all the positive accomplishments of Trump’s four years in office, everyone on the planet knows and recognizes it. Everything he touches turns to gold. I think you confused him with the feeble and feckless Biden. Sad.

FViia

Trying to keep it coin related.

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Jeff Legan

Anybody ready to just agree to disagree yet? I am mainly talking to you, Major D. I believe you are keeping this one going. It had ended hours ago when Coinman and Kaiser Wilhelm amicably agreed to disagree. I guess your tone now is… more confrontational than educational? You know, I don’t have and never wanted children, but I kind of feel like a parent now– Can’t all sides go into these conversations as if you are talking to a friend instead of an opponent? Someone you perhaps do not know very well, but is decent, and loves their country… Read more »

Jeff Legan

Multiply that thought by two or more and no one can ever stop.

Rich

Jeff, I think you would have made a great mother hen squad leader in WWII.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I thank the Coin Gods for the arrival of Jeff Legan, Good Sir Rich. I’d say The Great And Wise Conciliator spoke up the nick of time!

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Jeff Legan

Thanks, Rich! I always admired Vic Morrows’ character in Combat. No nonsense, all common sense.

Rich

Me too, Jeff. Sergeant Chip Saunders (Vic Morrow from The Bronx) and Lieutenant Gil Hanley (Rick Jason from New York City) were the real deal.

Kaiser Wilhelm

That was one of my favorites. Also:
Highway Patrol (Broderick Crawford)
Have Gun-Will Travel
Dragnet
The Rifleman
Zorro
The Rat Patrol
77 Sunset Strip
Adam 12
Kolchak-The Night Stalker
and, believe it or not, Green Acres

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Rich

Sir Kaiser, you may have forgot to mention Bonanza (and the Twilight Zone).

Kaiser Wilhelm

I did forget those, Good Sir Rich. Also The Honeymooners, Night Gallery, the Dick Van Dyke Show, and yes I will admit it, Bewitched and I Dream Of Jeannie. Of course, with my kids – who are now in their mid-forties with teenage children – there was Mr. Roger’s Neighborhood and Sesame Street. And when I was but a youngster myself, Howdy Doody, Captain Kangaroo, My Little Margie and the Gale Storm Show. Such memories. By the way, I can’t possibly omit The Dead End Kids otherwise known as The Bowery Boys featuring Leo Gorcey and the incomparable Huntz Hall,… Read more »

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Rich

Those were the days, my friend…

Kaiser Wilhelm

They were indeed, Good Sir Rich. During the second of my military-overseas-born and “conditional”-American-Passport-holding family’s second mandatory six month citizenship stays in the United States we lived in San Francisco. I remember not thinking anything of at the age of twelve wandering all around and up and down everywhere in that city, and I certainly never felt threatened by anyone or anything. This was in 1959.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Hey Major D and FViia,

I’m excited about adding both of those “coins” to my collection. After all, not everything has to come from a government mint!

Coinman

I can name quite a few of Trump’s accomplishments that you are denying and obviously lying about. He got the country the Covid vaccine in record time, he did indeed build a wall (that Biden stopped completing), he put his country first above all others, they proved the Russia, Russia, Russia was a hoax, he got NATO countries to pay their fare share, never planned any coup, never stole a thing from the US.
Too bad your TDS has gotten the better of you Major you know what. WTF are you going to do when he becomes your president again?

Kaiser Wilhelm

God knows I already have more than enough to do what with being responsible for the proper functioning of both Austria and Germany, but if there’s no other way to get you and Major D to drop this endless Trump v. Biden thing, I, Der Kaiser, will have to declare His Eminence Domain (yes, that’s my own version) and assume command of these here parts and premises also.

Imperially sincere and sincerely Imperial,
Wilhelm III

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Actually, LEE, the coins involved in that auction are bullion and as such not of numismatic quality. They ought to be of interest only to investors aka stackers.

Antonio

They’re MS70. I still have to have mine graded and they may not be MS70 and PF70. I am not a high net individual and only a humble coin collector attempting to have a complete collection for my own personal interest. I believe a name for me would be hobbyist.

Rooster

I will be watching this auction but more than likely on the sidelines and not bidding.

East Coast Guru

I might put in an offer of what a dealer offers to buy back bullion. $25. I might go as high as $40 for a 70 grade but it has to have a really cool label. ; )

Antonio

Anyone else put in a bid for these beauties?

Rooster

I would consider but have not decided on my limits.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rooster, Antonio and East Coast Guru,

I’ll be very interested to see if any big money people jump into this fray.

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Rich

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Good Sir Rich,

I believe the politically correct term is chronologically exceptional.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D,

A mere calamity is a flood or forest fire. This is a catastrophe.

Antonio

It’s a fashion statement.

Kaiser Wilhelm

But will it hold up in Paris or Milan?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D,

Sorry, I should have been clearer about who I meant. I was thinking specifically about those collectors with very deep pockets who think nothing of spending five or six figures (or more) per coin.

Antonio

If it’s worth it. Are these worth it?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Not in my opinion, Antonio, but hey, that and a few bucks will get you a cup of coffee (probably not at Starbucks though).

Antonio

But be surprised if Ana N. Mous puts in a bid for these beauties.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Antonio,

Any relation to Mighty Mouse (who’s always here to save the day)?

Antonio

I think the relation is to Anonymous, who’s name seems to be everywhere. Who is this Anonymous anyway? I don’t know.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Anonymous is one of the most common names in world literature. Perhaps someday he/she/it will even get the Nobel Prize.

Antonio

The the prize goes to….Anonymous!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Antonio,

Not since the award was given to the incomparable Bob Dylan has anyone quite so deserving been selected for this Prize!

Antonio

How about the Nobel Peace Prize to Barack Obama for…..

Kaiser Wilhelm

Wait…he already got that. However, if Kaisers are eligible, it would be a splendid addition to my medal collection of one (so far).

Antonio

Hey! I resent that characterization. I’m still working and time is of an essence. That’s why I’m the first one in to make a purchase when an issue I’m interested in is available.

Antonio

United States Mint Director Ventris C. Gibson will participate in the official ribbon-cutting ceremony for the American Numismatic Association’s (ANA) World’s Fair of Money® at the Donald E. Stephens Convention Center, 5555 N River Rd, Rosemont (Chicago), IL 60018. The ribbon cutting will occur on Tuesday, August 16, at 12:30 p.m. (EST), and attendees will have an opportunity to meet with Director Gibson while visiting the Mint booth at Hall F – Booth 1925. The Fair runs from August 16–20, 2022. View a display of the special limited edition 2021 American Eagle at Dusk and at Dawn 35th Anniversary Gold… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

A trip to an event with the awesome numismatic scope of this one appears close to being a necessity. In my younger days I would have been there by now, and with bells on.

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Antonio

I go to one in Long Beach. Sometimes the mint is there and I get a free penny. https://www.longbeachexpo.com/

Kaiser Wilhelm

Antonio, why didn’t you tell me this before? A free penny! I would have booked my flight by now for a once in a lifetime opportunity like that!