US Mint Sales: 2021 Holiday Ornaments Debut

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Early U.S. Mint sales stats are available for the pair of holiday-themed ornaments released last week. The Mint’s wreath-like 2021 Ornament posted sales of 2,869 while its kid-focused 2021 Mighty Minters™ Ornament registered sales of 2,283. Both were among the list of the U.S. Mint’s top weekly sellers.

A CoinNews photo of two 2021-S Morgan Silvers Dollars
A CoinNews photo of two 2021-S Morgan Silvers Dollars

Elsewhere, the various 2021-dated Morgan and Peace Silver dollars logged — and what has become routine — another round of weekly declines. Their latest reductions ranged from 210 to 252.

The figures going forward will perhaps be more interesting as collectors are now actually starting to receive their dollars.

Weekly U.S. Mint Top Sellers

Here’s the listing of the Mint’s most popular numismatic products for the week ending Oct. 24:

  1. 2021 Proof Set (+6,455 to 382,500)
  2. 2021 Mint Set (+5,154 to 164,759)
  3. 2021 U.S. Mint Ornament (+2,869)
  4. 2021 Silver Proof Set (+2,293 to 240,505)
  5. 2021 Mighty Minters Ornament (+2,283)
  6. 2021 American Innovation Dollar Proof Set (+1,186 to 54,301)
  7. 2020-S Reverse Proof Maryland American Innovation Dollar (+635 to 41,957)
  8. 2021 Birth Set (+409 to 26,271)
  9. 2020 American Innovation Dollar Proof Set (+334 to 98,321)
  10. 2018-W $10 American Liberty Gold Coin (+316 to 44,322)

In its latest report, the U.S. Mint published sales data for 318 numismatic products. Thirty-nine of them outperformed their prior weekly gains compared to 61 previously. Not counting the new products to compare apples to apples, 4 increased by more than 1,000 units against 5 in the prior report.

Including the already mentioned silver dollars, a combined 25 products saw their sales reduced compared to 24 previously. The reductions ranged from 1 to 1,264 units with the latter tagged to ‘P’ rolls of North Carolina Innovation dollars. All of the other roll and bag products with North Carolina dollar also fell.

US Mint Sales: Numismatic Products

Below are tables showing the latest available sales for U.S. Mint numismatic products. The sales period covers from Oct. 18 to 24. Products with an asterisk (*) are no longer available or had no reported sales.

2021 Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021 Morgan Silver Dollar with CC Privy Mark 170,516 170,306 -210 -0.12%
2021 Morgan Silver Dollar with O Privy Mark 170,834 170,612 -222 -0.13%
2021-D Morgan Silver Dollar 174,071 173,829 -242 -0.14%
2021-S Morgan Silver Dollar 174,120 173,887 -233 -0.13%
2021 Morgan Silver Dollar (P) 171,823 171,594 -229 -0.13%
2021 Peace Silver Dollar (P) 196,198 195,946 -252 -0.13%

2021 Christa McAuliffe Silver Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021-P Proof Silver Dollar 47,048 47,288 240 0.51%
2021-P Uncirculated Silver Dollar 14,187 14,292 105 0.74%

2021 National Law Enforcement Memorial and Museum Commemorative Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021-W Proof $5 Gold Coin 1,271 1,276 5 0.39%
2021-W Uncirculated $5 Gold Coin 1,463 1,474 11 0.75%
2021-P Proof Silver Dollar 26,666 26,769 103 0.39%
2021-P Uncirculated Silver Dollar 8,299 8,587 288 3.47%
2021-S Proof Half Dollar 21,345 21,443 98 0.46%
2021-D Uncirculated Half Dollar 9,277 9,324 47 0.51%
2021 Three-Coin Proof Set 4,112 4,121 9 0.22%

Armed Forces Silver Medal

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
U.S. Coast Guard 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,871 9,859 -12 -0.12%
U.S. Air Force 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,909 9,909

2020 Basketball Hall of Fame Commemorative Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2020-W Proof $5 Basketball Gold Coin* 8,070 8,070
2020-W Uncirculated $5 Basketball Gold Coin* 3,261 3,261
2020-P Proof Basketball Silver Dollar* 68,756 68,756
2020-P Uncirculated Basketball Silver Dollar* 21,317 21,317
2020-S Proof Basketball Half Dollar* 26,572 26,572
2020-D Uncirculated Basketball Half Dollar* 13,635 13,635
2020 Basketball Kids Set* 22,528 22,528
2020-P Colorized Basketball Silver Dollar* 25,719 25,719
2020-S Colorized Basketball Half Dollar* 32,581 32,581

2020 Women’s Suffrage Centennial Products

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2020-P Proof Silver Dollar* 33,441 33,441
2020-P Uncirculated Silver Dollar* 12,601 12,601
2020-P Proof Silver Dollar and Medal Set* 9,995 9,995

American Liberty Products

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 12,272 12,260 -12 -0.10%
2019-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 24,609 24,609
2019-P American Liberty Silver Medal 44,928 44,928
2018-W $10 American Liberty Gold Coin 44,006 44,322 316 0.72%
2017 American Liberty Silver Four-Medal Set* 32,647 32,647
2017-S Enhanced Uncirculated Coin Set* 210,419 210,419
2017-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 34,278 34,313 35 0.10%
2017-P Proof American Liberty Silver Medal* 55,187 55,187

400th Anniversary of Mayflower Voyager Products

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2020 Mayflower 400th Anniversary Two-Coin Gold Proof Set 4,743 4,743
2020 Mayflower 400th Anniversary Reverse Proof Gold Coin 4,881 4,881
2020 Mayflower 400th Anniversary Proof Silver Coin and Medal Set 9,072 9,072
2020 Mayflower 400th Anniversary Reverse Proof Silver Medal 19,613 19,613

2020 End of WWII Coins and Medal

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2020-W $25 Gold Coin* 7,367 7,367
2020 Silver Medal* 19,703 19,703

Clad Proof Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021 Proof Set 376,045 382,500 6,455 1.72%
2020 Proof Set 465,081 465,081
2019 Proof Set 600,424 600,424
2018 Proof Set* 517,081 517,081
2017 Proof Set* 568,678 568,678
2021 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 53,115 54,301 1,186 2.23%
2020 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 97,987 98,321 334 0.34%
2019 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 134,754 134,984 230 0.17%
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set 64,242 64,242
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set 78,053 78,099 46 0.06%
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* 86,697 86,697
2021 Happy Birthday Gift Set 16,984 16,984
2020 Happy Birthday Gift Set* 16,738 16,738
2019 Happy Birthday Gift Set* 19,097 19,097
2018 Happy Birthday Gift Set* 17,719 17,719
2021 Birth Gift Set 25,862 26,271 409 1.58%
2020 Birth Gift Set* 29,330 29,330
2019 Birth Gift Set* 29,530 29,530
2018 Birth Gift Set* 34,032 34,032

Silver Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021 Silver Proof Set 238,212 240,505 2,293 0.96%
2020 Silver Proof Set 313,246 313,246
2019 Silver Proof Set* 412,508 412,508
2018 Silver Proof Set* 332,274 332,274
2018 Silver Reverse Proof Set* 199,116 199,116
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set 64,012 64,012
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set 78,585 78,585
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 79,301 79,301
2021 Congratulations Gift Set* 39,997 39,997
2020 Congratulations Gift Set* 24,443 24,443
2019 Congratulations Gift Set* 31,639 31,639
2021 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 49,510 49,487 -23 -0.05%
2020 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* 50,000 50,000
2019 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* 47,404 47,404
2018 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* 49,479 49,479

US Mint Uncirculated Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021 Uncirculated Mint Set 159,605 164,759 5,154 3.23%
2020 Uncirculated Mint Set* 211,787 211,787
2019 Uncirculated Mint Set* 346,117 346,117
2018 Uncirculated Mint Set* 257,536 257,536
2017 Uncirculated Mint Set* 286,813 286,813

Kids Coin Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2019 Youth Coin and Currency Set 16,486 16,566 80 0.49%
2019 Explore and Discover Coin Set 37,045 37,086 41 0.11%
2019 Rocketship* 49,921 49,921
2014 Coin Discovery Set* 13,151 13,151

Ornaments

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021 Mighty Minters Ornament 2,283
2021 U.S. Mint Ornament 2,869
2020 Mighty Minters Ornament 3,552 3,680 128 3.60%
2020 U.S. Mint Ornament 5,051 5,227 176 3.48%
2019 Mighty Minters Ornament 6,105 6,220 115 1.88%
2019 U.S. Mint Ornament 10,252 10,418 166 1.62%

Proof & Reverse Proof Silver Eagles

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021 Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle Two-Coin Set 124,334 124,289 -45 -0.04%
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 239,187 238,638 -549 -0.23%
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins) 645 645
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 312,178 312,019 -159 -0.05%
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins) 2,142 2,142
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1 299,509 299,509
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1 (Bulk – 40 Coins) 686 686
2020-W End of WWII Proof Silver Eagle 74,742 74,742
2020-W Proof Silver Eagle 357,111 357,111
2020-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 600 600
2020-S Proof Silver Eagle 191,271 191,271
2020-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 440 440
2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof Proof Silver Eagle* 29,909 29,909
2019-S Proof Silver Eagle 146,799 146,799
2019-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 137 137
2019 Pride of Nations Two-Coin Set* 99,675 99,675
2019-W Proof Silver Eagle* 345,380 345,380
2019-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 745 745

Uncirculated Silver Eagles

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021 172,841 172,509 -332 -0.19%
2021 Bulk 40 324 324
2020 154,264 154,264
2020 Bulk 40* 15 15
2019 138,390 138,390
2019 Bulk 40* 66 66

2021 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1/10 oz Two-Coin Proof Set 4,934 4,984 50 1.01%
1 oz (Type 2) 5,518 5,569 51 0.92%
1/2 oz (Type 2) 2,142 2,142
1/4 oz (Type 2) 3,309 3,341 32 0.97%
1/10 oz (Type 2) 10,060 9,979 -81 -0.81%
4-Coin Set (Type 2) 10,259 10,252 -7 -0.07%
1 oz (Type 1) 4,405 4,405
1/2 oz (Type 1) 1,586 1,586
1/4 oz (Type 1) 2,682 2,682
1/10 oz (Type 1) 7,951 7,951
4-Coin Set (Type 1) 8,155 8,155

2020 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz End of WWII 1,939 1,939
1 oz 5,784 5,784
1/2 oz 2,446 2,446
1/4 oz 4,232 4,232
1/10 oz 12,466 12,466
4-Coin Set 11,576 11,575 -1 -0.01%

2019 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz* 5,872 5,872
1/2 oz* 1,876 1,876
1/4 oz* 3,035 3,035
1/10 oz* 10,231 10,231
4-Coin Set 8,823 8,823

Uncirculated American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021 8,947 8,945 -2 -0.02%
2020 6,284 6,284
2019* 5,851 5,851
2018* 8,518 8,518
2017* 5,800 5,800

Proof American Buffalo Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021 Proof Gold Buffalo 15,205 15,356 151 0.99%
2020 Proof Gold Buffalo* 11,887 11,887
2019 Proof Gold Buffalo* 14,844 14,844
2018 Proof Gold Buffalo* 15,756 15,756
2017 Proof Gold Buffalo* 15,810 15,810

Proof American Platinum Eagle

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021 8,960 8,991 31 0.35%
2020 8,790 8,799 9 0.10%
2019 11,268 11,268
2018 14,980 14,983 3 0.02%
2017* 8,890 8,890

American Palladium Eagle

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021-W Proof 4,413 4,428 15 0.34%
2020-W Uncirculated 9,498 9,504 6 0.06%
2019-W Reverse Proof 18,581 18,582 1 0.01%
2018-W Proof* 14,986 14,986

First Spouse Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest

Sales

Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2020-W Proof Barbara Bush First Spouse Gold Coin 2,815 2,822 7 0.25%
2020-W Uncirculated Barbara Bush First Spouse Gold Coin 1,767 1,778 11 0.62%

America the Beautiful 5 Oz Silver Coins

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021-P Tuskegee Airmen Silver Uncirculated Coin 19,819 19,815 -4 -0.02%
2020-P Tallgrass Prairie Silver Uncirculated Coin* 13,617 13,613 -4 -0.03%
2020-P Marsh-Billings-Rockefeller Silver Uncirculated Coin 13,549 13,545 -4 -0.03%
2020-P Salt River Bay Silver Uncirculated Coin* 13,566 13,566
2020-P Weir Farm Silver Uncirculated Coin 15,328 15,328
2020-P National Park of American Samoa Silver Uncirculated Coin* 15,781 15,781
2019-P River of No Return Silver Uncirculated Coin* 16,310 16,310
2019-P San Antonio Missions Silver Uncirculated Coin* 16,211 16,211
2019-P War In The Pacific Silver Uncirculated Coin* 16,277 16,277
2019-P American Memorial Park Silver Uncirculated Coin* 16,287 16,287
2019-P Lowell Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin* 16,644 16,644
2018-P Block Island Silver Coins* 15,913 15,913
2018-P Cumberland Island Silver Coins* 16,377 16,377
2018-P Voyageurs Silver Coins* 16,839 16,839
2018-P Apostle Islands Silver Coins* 16,802 16,802
2018-P Pictured Rocks Silver Coins* 17,773 17,773
2017-P George Rogers Clark Silver Coins* 14,731 14,731
2017-P Ellis Island Silver Coins* 17,670 17,670
2017-P Ozark Riverways Silver Coins 17,694 17,694
2017-P Frederick Douglass Silver Coins* 17,678 17,678
2017-P Effigy Mounds Silver Coins* 17,251 17,251

Presidential Silver Medals

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021 John Tyler Presidential Silver Medal 11,658 11,706 48 0.41%
2021 William Henry Harrison Presidential Silver Medal 11,879 11,893 14 0.12%
2021 Martin Van Buren Presidential Silver Medal 12,110 12,126 16 0.13%
2020 Andrew Jackson Presidential Silver Medal 14,712 14,730 18 0.12%
2019 John Quincy Adams Presidential Silver Medal 13,298 13,311 13 0.10%
2019 James Monroe Presidential Silver Medal 13,848 13,857 9 0.06%
2019 James Madison Presidential Silver Medal 14,904 14,917 13 0.09%
2019 Thomas Jefferson Presidential Silver Medal 20,776 20,805 29 0.14%
2018 George Washington Presidential Silver Medal 30,020 30,040 20 0.07%
2018 John Adams Presidential Silver Medal 21,472 21,491 19 0.09%

2021 American Innovation Dollars – North Carolina

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 6,950 5,686 -1,264 -18.19%
25-coin roll set (D) 5,872 5,487 -385 -6.56%
100-coin bag (P) 2,502 2,055 -447 -17.87%
100-coin bag (D) 2,473 1,929 -544 -22.00%

2021 American Innovation Dollars – New York

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 6,753 6,928 175 2.59%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,168 6,242 74 1.20%
100-coin bag (P) 2,395 2,452 57 2.38%
100-coin bag (D) 2,315 2,361 46 1.99%

2021 American Innovation Dollars – Virginia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 6,469 6,513 44 0.68%
25-coin roll set (D) 5,967 6,010 43 0.72%
100-coin bag (P) 2,249 2,296 47 2.09%
100-coin bag (D) 2,336 2,411 75 3.21%

2021 American Innovation Dollars – New Hampshire

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 6,997 6,997
25-coin roll set (D) 7,008 7,008
100-coin bag (P) 2,733 2,789 56 2.05%
100-coin bag (D) 2,756 2,756

2020 American Innovation Dollars – South Carolina

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 35,234 35,338 104 0.30%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,378 6,378
25-coin roll set (D) 6,400 6,400
100-coin bag (P) 2,734 2,734
100-coin bag (D) 2,378 2,378

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Maryland

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 41,322 41,957 635 1.54%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,493 6,493
25-coin roll set (D) 6,471 6,471
100-coin bag (P) 2,725 2,725
100-coin bag (D) 2,737 2,737

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Massachusetts

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 42,056 42,142 86 0.20%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,486 6,486
25-coin roll set (D) 6,481 6,481
100-coin bag (P) 2,746 2,746
100-coin bag (D) 2,748 2,748

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Connecticut

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 42,851 42,900 49 0.11%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,492 6,496 4 0.06%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,410 6,425 15 0.23%
100-coin bag (P) 2,539 2,542 3 0.12%
100-coin bag (D) 2,747 2,747

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Georgia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 42,719 42,767 48 0.11%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,949 6,956 7 0.10%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,551 6,556 5 0.08%
100-coin bag (P) 2,618 2,623 5 0.19%
100-coin bag (D) 2,544 2,552 8 0.31%

2019 American Innovation Dollars – New Jersey

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 46,027 46,087 60 0.13%
25-coin roll set (P) 7,559 7,573 14 0.19%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,884 6,896 12 0.17%
100-coin bag (P) 2,985 2,990 5 0.17%
100-coin bag (D) 2,731 2,731

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Pennsylvania

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 50,132 50,178 46 0.09%
25-coin roll set (P) 8,515 8,529 14 0.16%
25-coin roll set (D) 7,311 7,319 8 0.11%
100-coin bag (P) 2,675 2,682 7 0.26%
100-coin bag (D) 2,537 2,540 3 0.12%

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Delaware

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 65,828 65,880 52 0.08%
25-coin roll set (P) 7,960 7,970 10 0.13%
25-coin roll set (D) 7,431 7,438 7 0.09%
100-coin bag (P) 2,482 2,484 2 0.08%
100-coin bag (D) 2,692 2,694 2 0.07%

2018 American Innovation Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S)* 74,720 74,720
Proof Coin (S) 240,962 241,167 205 0.09%
25-coin roll set (P) 19,732 19,811 79 0.40%
25-coin roll set (D) 23,030 23,103 73 0.32%
100-coin bag (P)* 2,935 2,935
100-coin bag (D)* 2,954 2,954

George H.W. Bush Coin & Chronicles Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
$1 Coin & Set 8,470 8,627 157 1.85%

2020 Bush Presidential $1 Coin & First Spouse Medal Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
$1 Coin & Set 9,876 9,876

2020 George H.W. Bush Presidential $1 Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll (P) 19,036 19,098 62 0.33%
25-coin roll (D) 16,595 16,660 65 0.39%
100-coin bag (P) 2,695 2,695
100-coin bag (D) 2,098 2,098
250-coin bag (P) 1,733 1,767 34 1.96%
250-coin bag (D) 3,298 3,314 16 0.49%

Native American Dollar Rolls

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,521 13,590 69 0.51%
2021-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 12,884 13,041 157 1.22%
2021-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,704 1,704
2021-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,618 1,618
2021-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,150 1,154 4 0.35%
2021-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,453 1,471 18 1.24%
2020-dated 25-coin roll set (P) 16,107 16,132 25 0.16%
2020-dated 25-coin roll set (D) 16,018 16,032 14 0.09%
2020-dated 100-coin bag (P) 1,960 1,960
2020-dated 100-coin bag (D) 1,981 1,981
2020-dated 250-coin box (P) 1,846 1,849 3 0.16%
2020-dated 250-coin box (D) 1,956 1,956
2019-dated 25-coin roll set (P)* 17,776 17,776
2019-dated 25-coin roll set (D)* 17,075 17,075
2019-dated 100-coin bag (P)* 1,829 1,829
2019-dated 100-coin bag (D)* 1,766 1,766
2019-dated 250-coin box (P)* 1,734 1,734
2019-dated 250-coin box (D)* 1,949 1,949

Kennedy Half Dollar Rolls

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2021-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 9,104 9,196 92 1.01%
2021-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 21,955 21,955
2020-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 11,776 11,776
2020-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 24,312 24,312
2019-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 11,534 11,534
2019-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 24,132 24,132

America the Beautiful Quarters Uncirculated Coin Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2020 Issue* 24,791 24,791
2019 Issue* 32,252 32,252
2018 Issue* 32,648 32,648
2017 Issue* 29,972 29,972

America the Beautiful Quarters Circulating Coin Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2020 Issue* 24,849 24,849
2019 Issue* 22,819 22,819
2018 Issue* 22,641 22,641
2017 Issue* 24,765 24,765
2016 Issue* 23,958 23,958

America the Beautiful Quarters Three-Coin Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Tuskegee Airmen* 15,471 15,471
Tallgrass Prairie * 15,392 15,392
Marsh-Billings-Rockefeller 14,132 14,158 26 0.18%
Salt River Bay 14,052 14,066 14 0.10%
Weir Farm 14,242 14,255 13 0.09%
National Park of American Samoa 15,385 15,385
River of No Return 14,199 14,211 12 0.08%
San Antonio Missions* 15,394 15,394
War in Pacific* 15,419 15,419
American Memorial Park 15,415 15,415
Lowell* 15,423 15,423
Block Island 14,722 14,728 6 0.04%
Cumberland Island 14,738 14,750 12 0.08%
Voyageurs* 15,266 15,266
Apostle Islands* 15,241 15,241
Pictured Rocks* 15,397 15,397
George Rogers Clark* 14,133 14,133
Ellis Island* 16,947 16,947
Ozark Riverways* 14,912 14,912
Frederick Douglass* 15,566 15,566
Effigy Mounds* 14,516 14,516
Fort Moultrie* 13,306 13,306
Theodore Roosevelt* 16,072 16,072
Harpers Ferry* 14,345 14,345
Cumberland Gap* 14,973 14,973
Shawnee* 15,474 15,474
Saratoga* 14,950 14,950
Bombay Hook* 13,400 13,400
Blue Ridge Parkway* 17,165 17,165
Kisatchie Set* 15,196 15,196
Homestead Set* 16,114 16,114
Everglades Set* 14,373 14,373
Great Sand Dunes Set* 14,119 14,119
Arches Three-Coin Set* 15,859 15,859
Shenandoah Three-Coin Set* 17,351 17,351
Great Smoky Mountains Set* 18,588 18,588
Mount Rushmore Quarters Set* 17,924 17,924
Fort McHenry Quarters Set* 16,345 16,345
Great Basin Quarters Set* 15,526 15,526
Perry’s Victory Quarters Set* 17,643 17,643
White Mountain Quarters Set* 18,056 18,056
Denali Quarters Set* 18,193 18,193
Hawaii Volcanoes Quarters Set* 19,947 19,947
Acadia Quarters Set* 19,940 19,940
Chaco Culture Quarters Set* 20,028 20,028
El Yunque Quarters Set* 19,891 19,891
Chickasaw Quarters Set* 16,184 16,184
Vicksburg Quarters Set* 18,095 18,095
Olympic Quarters Set* 17,718 17,718
Glacier Quarters Set* 19,046 19,046
Gettysburg Quarters Set* 22,869 22,869
Mount Hood Quarters Set* 18,384 18,384
Grand Canyon Quarters Set* 22,133 22,133
Yosemite Quarters Set* 22,154 22,154
Yellowstone Quarters Set* 25,048 25,048
Hot Springs Quarters Set* 23,203 23,203

2021 Tuskegee Airmen Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
100-Coin Bag (S) 4,031 4,031
40-Coin Roll (S) 3,358 3,358
Three-Roll Set 7,642 7,642
100-Coin Bag (P) 2,367 2,367
100-Coin Bag (D) 2,380 2,380
Two-Roll Set 5,375 5,375

2020 Tallgrass Prairie Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
100-Coin Bag (S) 4,193 4,193
40-Coin Roll (S) 3,954 3,953 -1 -0.03%
Three-Roll Set 8,841 8,841
100-Coin Bag (P) 2,500 2,500
100-Coin Bag (D) 2,478 2,478
Two-Roll Set 6,055 6,089 34 0.56%

2020 Marsh-Billings-Rockefeller Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
100-Coin Bag (S) 4,183 4,183
40-Coin Roll (S) 3,933 3,933
Three-Roll Set 8,744 8,755 11 0.13%
100-Coin Bag (P) 2,415 2,415
100-Coin Bag (D) 2,331 2,331
Two-Roll Set 5,680 5,688 8 0.14%

2020 Salt River Bay Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
100-Coin Bag (S) 4,156 4,156
40-Coin Roll (S) 4,005 4,005
Three-Roll Set 8,879 8,879
100-Coin Bag (P) 2,488 2,488
100-Coin Bag (D) 2,422 2,422
Two-Roll Set 5,922 5,934 12 0.20%

2020 Weir Farm Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
100-Coin Bag (S) 4,281 4,281
40-Coin Roll (S) 4,013 4,013
Three-Roll Set 8,930 8,930
100-Coin Bag (P) 2,471 2,471
100-Coin Bag (D) 2,470 2,470
Two-Roll Set 6,612 6,630 18 0.27%

2020 National Park of American Samoa Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
100-Coin Bag (S) 4,236 4,236
40-Coin Roll (S) 3,974 3,974
Three-Roll Set 8,930 8,930
100-Coin Bag (P) 2,456 2,456
100-Coin Bag (D) 2,480 2,480
Two-Roll Set 6,991 6,991
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Kaiser Wilhelm

It’s clear that the so far consistent nose dive in sales that the Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars have been taking in every Mint Sales Report since day one has now reached its steepest downward angle yet. Even as these long-awaited coins are finally being released physically the demand for them is shrinking even faster. I would find this to be a rather peculiar and counter-intuitive phenomenon except for the fact that it has over time become obvious that this series of coins for the purposes of the secondary market was both over-valued and over-priced to begin with, and with… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

According to today’s Mint Sales Report, it looks like it’s a double debbie downer day in that the 2021 Type 2 American Silver Eagles of both Proof varieties and the Uncirculated version have also taken significant drops in sales numbers. Considering all the trouble and tumult that occurred on their original release days this is especially ironic but not at all surprising. After all, it was the very same Buying Clubs, Big Dealers and Pro Flippers who gummed up the web site works on those sales days, thereby preventing so many individual buyers from acquiring any of these coins, who… Read more »

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Rich

Brilliantly stated, Sir Kaiser. I can just picture Teeny Weenie playing that Itsy Bitsy violin to Dido’s Lament.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Why thank you, Rich, for those kind words; much appreciated indeed.

Serving of notice: Even that miniscule instrument will be confiscated if the Mint continues to play its too smart and sharp for its own good games “Under New Management.” After all, they’ve had many more chances than they were ever due already.

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SENZA

Wait! You answered your own question – I didn’t know that was allowed – this changes everything!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

But not necessarily in the Cindy Lauper way, SENZA, as in “Money changes everything.” I think, on the other hand, that your point is exceptionally well taken, that questions asked and answered (shades of Perry Mason) by one and the same individual do call for a change in everything, likely up to and including both the General and Special Theories of Relativity. We’re now deep (perhaps quite literally so) into gravity wells, singularities and quantum mechanics (although how much they charge an hour is sheer piracy). Incidentally, internal voices that are themselves hearing things often require sub-cranial nano-therapy, and by… Read more »

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Larry T

Kaiser, Damn, are you saying I paid too much for the Advance Release MS70 Morgan/Peace Dollar set from Mike ‘ every ASE collector has to have this set in their collection’ Mezazck? Oh well, I suppose I can always send it back. If the Mint produced a maximum 100K for all the Morgan/Peace Dollars then I could see the justification of those secondary market prices. Instead, they minted 175K (Morgans) and 200K (Peace Dollars) which doesn’t make them anywhere near ‘rare.’ I’m personally glad they minted enough for a lot of collectors to get a few. If this turns out… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Larry, You’re definitely approaching this situation from the very best angle, which is to think of it as a great opportunity for collectors to finally have had a real chance to get some coins they wanted without their firstborn effectively having been held for ransom to be able to have acquired one or more of these at any price. Who even cares what the secondary market price was if you for once avoided having to resort to buying from the usual assortment of greedy profiteers, grifters, shysters and snake oil salesmen? There has never been any justification for those always… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

But…but…what if it doesn’t?

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Rob S

HSN-Mike (yeah, him) has stated that some of the Morgans are not grading well due to spotting on the dies (or blanks?). (Thats despite the fact he also said a week or so ago that they might not even ship out this year, when folks here were reporting shipping notices already. “Exclusive to him” – better get yours. hrrumph.) Maybe they’re melting those rejects down? *shrug* We’ve also seen people getting deliveries where the packaging was “defective”. So maybe those are reject / returns. Makes me wonder what my after-market CC/O is gonna look like, or what my sealed Limited… Read more »

Rob S

Oh yeah, forgot to report, getting my Morgan D, S Sat (USPS), and my P and Peace $s due Mon (UPS).
Then just waiting on my pre-order CC / O (I caved when I saw them offered for less than my left … lung – for single ungraded coins still in OGP).

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob,

Here’s hoping you’re happy with all your purchases!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob, We should always bear in mind that anything that Mike “I’m The Only One Who Has Coins In Ultra-Deep Proof 71 And Up” aka “The Wily Weasel” Mezack says must be taken with a bushel of salt; after all, there’s always an ulterior motive behind everything that comes out of his perpetually repeating everything perpetually repeating everything mouth. By the way, this may or may not be an inclination of yours, Rob, but if you want to know for sure what is in your Limited Edition Two ASE Proof Set you can always open it. I looked at mine… Read more »

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Rob S

Kaiser, those look nice. If I want the identification the coins are from the Ltd Ed set when graded from PCGS, I (think) have to send it in the sealed outer box. I dont think its in another box within this one. And this time, I kinda do want that designation when graded … its free, and its just a different coin number, but … its a fact in this case. I dont normally go for this sort of thing, but what the heck. I think the idea is, anyone can get the set packaging, and send in individual coins… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Thanks, Rob. I am really enjoying this special set. 🙂 Hey, more power to you for going for the “full effect” in having that set graded; it certainly is worth the effort considering it’s such a beautiful one of a kind item! I regret not buying last year’s Limited Edition Silver Proof Set, but that statement applies to at least one Mint release every year that I am just too reluctant – if that’s the best term for that – to buy. 20-20 hindsight and all that, but it’s not the end of the world. Since by principle I don’t… Read more »

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Carl Warren

Kaiser – very nice looking. And all the coins too! When I opened mine it was missing the Crossing the Delaware Quarter. Called customer service and they told me I could return it for a refund nor could they guarantee I could get another set. So I emailed and wrote them, with pictures and the CNR form, asking them to either send me the individual coin or the 2021 Silver Proof set free of charge. Probably won’t happen and I’ll end up buying the coin at some point. Rob S – hope you don’t have the same issue I have… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Darn, Carl, how does that kind of very unfortunate nonsense even happen? I mean, someone with eyes is packing that set and they miss the fact that there is an empty spot where a coin should be! How irresponsible and/or lazy is that? Not to be a debbie downer, but you’re probably right; the Mint doesn’t seem to be inclined to make exceptions to their strict rules. That is, unless you’re Mike “I Can Get The Mint To Wipe My Butt If I Want To” Mezack; then likely anything’s possible. But that’s life, I suppose. In any case, best of… Read more »

Chris Terp

I am just pleased that my Morgan New Orleans coin finally came in earlier this week and my Peace Dollars are scheduled for Saturday delivery 🙂

Still bummed my Morgan Carson City got taken out of my cart while processing order 🙁

I am not pleased about being notified everyday for over week now on availability to purchase American Eagles Silver Dollar Reverse Proof Two Coin Set (21XJ) and not being successful in acquiring it 🙁

Right, not much markup, or successful markups yet that I see on eBay for the above coins and set.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Chris, congrats on getting your Morgan O Privy and the Peace Dollar being on its way! Too bad about the Morgan CC snatched from the jaws of victory; it wasn’t fair. Don’t be surprised or dismayed by the here-and-gone those Mint availability notices represent. That has been SOP forever since it is virtually impossible to outrun a bot from your home page to the product page. Once in a long while, maybe… Yep, the great anticipated re-seller profiteering has not materialized this time, and as we individual buyers get ever smarter that will happen more often. Hopefully there will come… Read more »

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domenic

I REALLY hope we are somehow offered a chance to buy some of those Morgans…i still need 1 D and 1 S. At least ebay is down to about $130 a coin now.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Unless I’m totally off the beam on this, domenic, it shouldn’t be much longer before you can purchase those coins at a nominal amount above their original Mint price. Considering how many of these the arrogant flippers are now stuck with they will quite likely sooner rather than later have to begin to unload their stocks at practically any price.

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SENZA

Are you sure!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Oh lord, SENZA, how on earth where you able to get that photo of Mike “I Can Tell You Every Farfetched Fairytale About Coins I Want To And You’ll Still Believe Them Like Foolishly Trusting Lambs Being Led To The Slaughter” Mezack without his usual makeup on?

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Chris Terp

There’s another saying: “Pigs go to pasture, hogs go to slaughter.” Have to say, that New Orleans Morgan is flawless – must of struck when die was early and still sharp. Those 21XJ set notices are coming over at 9am every morning so guess I should just hop on Mint site around then. Keep on forgetting though – guess my morning tea hasn’t kicked in yet to make me remember this. Saw one go for about $235 on eBay, should of picked it up before someone else purchased. The big and quick money getters are the low mintage coins like… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

At this point in the game, which of course is what this is all all about what with the inexorable involvement of the obnoxiously greedy and greedily obnoxious big dealers, buyers clubs and pro flippers, waiting it out is time on the side of the buyers and no longer that of the re-sellers. Anyone who can control their impulse to buy at the moment will come out ahead in the long run as the grifters have basically run out of foolish customers to sell to and as a result will have to lower their prices ever further in order to… Read more »

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Rob S

Alas, I fall into the latter camp. 🙁 When theres a big enouhg itch, it gotsta be scratched. lol (But I have my limits.)

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob,

That’s not a defect on your part but simply a sign of being human. I can’t even begin to list all the things I’ve paid good hard-earned money for over my 74 years that I later had buyer’s remorse about, and occasionally very extensively and painfully so.

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Rob S

If you really want one and can swing it, APMEX is pre-selling the Designer Rev Proof set in OGP for about $350 (a 100% markup) – well, $365 with a credit card.

Chris Terp

I plan to wait it out and see what sellers on eBay start asking in a couple weeks / few months.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob,

On impulse I once bought a book value $19.95 coin set for twice the price simply because I wanted it at the moment. It might not have been a big deal, but I must say I’ve never done that again; why touch a hot stove twice?

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Rob S

I hear ya. The last couple of years, and especially this year, I’ve been going against my better senses with my collection. I’ve been on a “mission” to fill out my (rev) proof ASE (and AGE) collection, and a big push to get just about every individually encapsulated coin graded. I had almost everything already thankfully from gradually collecting a couple each year, but not all of it. I sold a bunch of funds to prepare for this years offerings, so I’m going a bit outside my comfort zone to complete things, spending the extra $$$ at times, but not… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob, that was a very interesting narrative, and I do believe it was less “random” than you may have thought it was, which is to say it all came together and made good sense to me. I understand the competition that goes on in one’s mind when it comes to deciding how much of one’s nest egg to expend on coinage for “The Collection”. In past years I have indeed reached into my retirement account to pay some of the bills for my coin purchases, but this year and last the government’s “covid money” took the place of that necessity.… Read more »

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c_q

Well, I got my morgan and peace dollar ship notice from the mint today. I only wanted the one of each, and I didn’t even bother trying to get the other ones. The problem with the flippers is that it seems that much of the demand is from just the flippers themselves, not from actual purchasers. I won’t go onto ebay and pay double what the mint charges (which is already double what they should charge), the flippers can keep them at those prices.. I would be OK if the cost is the same or less than the mint, however… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

c_q, That’s an extremely erudite observation regarding how the flippers have ended up becoming each others best and biggest customers, and simply out of basic necessity at that. Individual buyers like ourselves here on this great site have long awoken to the fact that the entire re-seller game depends on the belief in what the flippers are selling, which is not the coins themselves but rather the promise of the profit they can bring. Unfortunately for these wanton grifters we little people have finally figured out that all this “added value” crap was nothing more than a smoke and mirrors… Read more »

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c_q

alas I wish it were the case that flippers are dying off, in reality they just probably will go find something else to flip (limited-release vinyl, baseball cards, etc.). probably they gravitated to the mint because at least a few years ago the prices were relatively low and it was easy to ‘game’ the mint’s website, thus there was a lot of headroom to scoop up large quantities and upcharge on ebay (or infomercials), at least as long as people keep buying stuff there. Now with the combination of a more fair (but not perfect) mint website and low household… Read more »

Major D

so you’re collecting just for the fun of it, and are okay with it being worth less than what you paid for it or maybe even just the face value? if that’s the case, why buy anything from the mint ever?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Coin collecting is not designed to be a money-making proposition. It is a hobby from which one gains fulfillment through the accumulation of interesting, historic and all-around appealing numismatic materials. If you’re thinking of getting into coin collecting with the idea of making money you are most unfortunately barking up the wrong tree.

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c_q

yes, exactly that is correct. this is also the reason why I don’t buy multiples of everything each year the mint puts out – just whatever piques my interest, provided the price is acceptable. I get from the mint directly because then I’m assured of getting the real deal, which is not exactly a guarantee on ebay and other places online these days. of course I’m looking to see what there is in value in the coin and (usually) won’t get something that is a terrible value, but I’m not overly concerned about the price going up or down after… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

I wish, c_q, that I had some of your foresight regarding the inadvisability of buying multiples of any item; I have in a very real sense bought my collections several times over what with all the double, triples, quadruples and yes, one quintuple purchase I’ve made over the years. In retrospect I realize the ultimate futility of all that spending and hoarding – I don’t know what else to call it – but that 20-20 hindsight and a few bucks will, as I have been known to state before, get me a cup of coffee at Dunkin or Starbucks. I… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Exactly, c_q, you’ve hit the nail on the head. The constant covert collusion of the Mint itself with the assortment of Buying Clubs, Big Dealers and Professional Flippers these greedy and unscrupulous entities were able to play every single hand – which is to say each and every coin release of note – with a totally stacked deck. The ordinary collector never had a chance to get into the game from the start and found himself forced to pay literally extortionist prices – remember as perhaps the most egregious example the infamous 2019S Reverse Proof ASE that went from the… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

c_q, you hit the bullseye with that one; FOMO is the final link in the chain of what’s keeping flippers in business. Unfortunately, we collectors are averse to having holes in our collections; therefore, whether we mean to or not we ourselves are the ones helping to keep the flippers alive. How ironic is that?

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Major D

First let me admit that I am rather new to coin collecting and to this post. Part of the allure for me is the value prospect- so, I’m having trouble understanding your anti-flipper position. If a coin’s value goes up after I acquire it, because of low mintage and/or high demand, I see that as a good thing. If not for flipping/resales and auctions there would be no change in value. And without a secondary market for coins how would a newcomer ever hope to build a collection?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major, I see two separate questions here. If a coin’s value goes up because the law of supply and demand kicks in, more power to you. What we collectors abhor and therefore rail against is the manipulation of Mint releases before they are even sold to the public by the Mint. Fortunately most of these shenanigans have at long last been brought under at least a semblance of control. With the more effective new procedures and guidelines in place more people should be able to buy from the Mint at Mint prices and not have to pay many multiples of… Read more »

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Major D

Thank you Kaiser for your thoughtful response. I do enjoy the history and the variety of it all- but yes, I would like my collection to be worth more someday so that I, or my kids, could sell and make money with it. I learn more every day about the industry of coin collecting- much of it I don’t care for (for instance, entombing coins in hard plastic slabs). Since the Mint is the sole source of new coins and new coin types I do think about the incredible wealth (not just in face value) that the Mint can create–… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

You’re very welcome, Major, and I hope what I shared was at least a little bit of help to you in formulating both how and why you want to build your coin collection. The way I look at the value proposition in regard to my own collection is that whatever money I have put into it and whatever amount I add to it going forward, even if it doesn’t appreciate much per se, is at least a way of “investing” some money that I would likely have spent far more frivolously or thoughtlessly otherwise. As for keeping an eye on… Read more »

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harryg

I need advice. Being new to purchasing from the U.S. mint, it has not been a pleasant experience overall although as a pure collector I am thrilled to have what I have ordered to date. I ordered 14 coins total and have 8 in my possession so far and 6 more are on their way. 7 of those I already received are absolutely beautiful and problem free and then there is this 2021S. Would you return this? I fear If I do, I wont get another S mint in return. I am not interested in a refund but want a… Read more »

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c_q

the mint doesn’t promise to give everyone perfect 70-grade coins, though many are. that’s part of the mystery and luck with ordering from the mint directly. unless a coin or its packaging is truly defective (not being a 70-grade quality coin is not considered defective), you will have to pay for the return shipping and are basically just taking another random draw hoping to get a better one, the replacement could very wind up being even worse. note it is the mint, not you, who gets to decide whether something is ‘defective’ or not.

Seth Riesling

Very good advice c_q !

Scratches on a Proof coin is unacceptable, but these silver dollars are just uncirculated finish/strike & can have some scratches without being considered defective by the Mint.

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harryg

Thank you as well. That makes good sense too as I didn’t buy a proof coin and maybe I will just have to suck it up. Lesson learned.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Ordinarily I would be more than happy to agree wholeheartedly with my collecting compadres on here, but this doesn’t happen to be one of those times. That mark is by no means a minor glitch on that coin; rather, it is quite a serious scratch. I myself wouldn’t make a comparison between a proof and an uncirculated coin as to how significant this defect is, as both of those varieties of coins are in the numismatic category. Now, if this were a bullion version of this coin I wouldn’t think about it for a minute, but when you get into… Read more »

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harryg

Thank you. I do find it significant and unacceptable and think I will take my chances and try to return it for an exchange as I can’t imagine how getting a replacement could be much worse. I too thought this defect crosses the line between a minor defect and a major defect. Just hoping whoever makes that decision at the mint is in a good mood and agrees.

Kaiser Wilhelm

harryg,

Often just being pro-active rather than merely passive is a big step in the right direction. Whatever the outcome, if you try your best to remedy the situation you will at the very least have the satisfaction of knowing you did all you could rather than just letting the world happen to you. Best of luck with that!

c_q

yeah, I originally had a bunch of extra words about what constitutes ‘defective’ as it varies based on the product, but I ripped it all out because it’s really just a guess on what it should be, in reality the mint decides anyway, and who really knows except them what their criteria is. it should be different based on the product finish but it could also be different due to the mood of the guy processing your return.

harryg

Thankyou for that feedback. At first I was hoping the defect was on the capsule so I removed the coin from it only to realize the rather severe scratch was unfortunately on the bust. The eyes are immediately drawn to it, a major detraction, and that is all I see now. Extremely unattractive and I am very disappointed with it and the mint. Maybe my expectations are unrealistically high. I just don’t know. I am not looking for a perfect 70 but I never expected to get something like this from the mint. Just looking to see what everybody thinks… Read more »

Chris Terp

It almost looks like a messed up “P” harryg. Can’t enlarge more on my computer to get a good look at it but if you are seeing it as a blotch rather than a miss strike or strike error (which makes the coin more valuable) then I will take your word it’s a blotch. This coin is sold out so a return may not be able to get you exchange unless other folks return their coins. Those other returns also may have blotches as bad as yours, or maybe not as bad. Either way, if you are going to return,… Read more »

harryg

Thank you.

Rob S

All I have to add to the other great advice is – werent these sold out? Do they even HAVE a replacement? I know (as Kaiser points out) many are being returned. The “why” of that – and are those available, is cause for concern for me.
(edit – Ok, I posted w/o reading all of the previous post – he said the same.)

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harryg

Thank you.

Big T

IF you send it back it will be melted and they will refund your money – you won’t get a replacement coin. See my new message above about the quality of these coins…

harryg

Thank you.

harryg

After reading everybody’s advice, I have reconsidered and decided I will just keep it. I looked at it again under high magnification and it is just a nasty nick although in my photo I can see where it could be misconstrued as a P. I cant imagine what caused it but I am not confident I can get any replacement at all and even if I could, not confident It would be any better. I Hope my Morgan P’s and Peace Dollars which are on their way are problem free. Thanks to all.

Chris Terp

Been reading lot of unsatisfied buyers here about quality with these coins. So now I too am hoping my Peace Silver Dollars come to me free of scratches. So glad that my Morgan O came in Scot-free of blemishes. It’s one of the best quality coins I have received from US Mint. I must of gotten one of the early strikes on the die. Now I know I have jinxed myself for those Peace Dollars much like when TV announcer states “chip shot” for the field goal kicker in a football game, well you know what happens a lot of… Read more »

Antonio

Is that a little P on her cheek? That one may be worth holding on to.

Antonio

So you have one of those error coins. Looks like you may have hit the jackpot.

Carl

The Morgan D, S and Philadelphia and Peace coins are in transit. I use USPS tracking and the curious thing is that the D and S were shipped from Memphis but the other 2 were shipped from Irving Texas. Maybe since the call center is Dallas they have contracted help in Texas. Has anyone else noticed this with the shipping of their orders?

Chris Terp

Yep, noted and greatly appreciated! My location is suburban Washington, D.C. in Maryland. When items come from Memphis facility they go through Philadelphia USPS facility which means significant delays in delivery for me. When I noticed Irving, Texas was wondering how long parcel would be in USPS system and to my surprise not long. Will enjoy more Mint items shipped from Irving to keep parcels out of Philadelphia postal mess but this may be done only to help take load off Memphis facility(?). Unlike grocery and liquor stores, US Mint collector items probably not considered essential items so staffing could… Read more »

JWP

I live 30 miles from the Fulfillment center in Memphis Tennessee and use the USPS informed delivery system. When I get a package from the mint it comes to Memphis and half the time it goes to Nashville and then comes back to Memphis. This has made no sense to me but that’s what the tracking indicates which also increases about 3 days on the delivery. My last two deliveries from the mint were sent by UPS and from the time it shipped from the mint to my house was three days. Go figure.

Chris Terp

Memphis is a fulfilment center and gets dropped off/sent over to the USPS Regional Origin Facility Memphis TN Distribution Center Annex. This may mean parcel goes across the street in a Postal Hub compound and probably just out of convenience and speed to clear things out of the Hub area, goes to the next major postal facility in Nashville where they have the room and time to then correctly distribute(?). I use the USPS a lot for my eBay business (not selling coins but vacuum tubes) and have never been able to figure out how they manage things but am… Read more »

JWP

Seriously, 30 miles from the FC and it is sent 230 mile x2 and then the 30 miles to my mailbox. If this system of delivery makes sense to you-Hey Houston we have a problem.

Chris Terp

It doesn’t make sense to me JWP but in the sense of time efficiency for processing it probably makes sense to the Post Office.

Guess it is similar thinking with express overnight delivery by Post Office where all packages go to Indianapolis as it’s central location for US for USPS to ensure that overnight delivery can happen for the majority of its deliveries.

There’s a right way, a wrong way and the USPS way.

Big T

I have received now my 3 CC, 3 O and 3 S Morgans with the others supposedly in the mail. 2 of the 3 CC have ‘spots’ on them that are actually the same on each coin, exact same – so must be oil on the die or planchettes, who knows… Then there is the 2 of 3 O that have a ‘ding’ below the E in America on the reverse. Again, same ‘ding’ in both coins so it must be on the die. So – quality is suspect and I think those pre-selling MS70s might be in for a… Read more »

Big T

One more comment – I am one that is overall disappointed in the coins. The surface is very similar to the newer ‘burnished’ ASEs and NOT at all like the original or even the 1921 Morgans…. no real ‘cartwheel’ or ‘luster’ that we know and love so much on the originals…. why didn’t the mint go for an original finish???? To me, these look more like commemoratives (and no, they are not commemoratives) and less like the real thing…. so, at one point I had intended to keep all 3 – now I am only keeping one coin per mint.

Chris Terp

It is stated on US Mint website specification section that each re-issue Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars that the finish is uncirculated, not proof or burnished. (See attached screenshot from US Mint website for Morgan O Silver Dollar).

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Rich

Larry T and harryg, your instances of receiving “problematic” 2021 Morgans is downright SPOOKY, considering the statistically small sample size we CoinNews commenters represent. It gave me pause to reexamine the 2 CCs, 2 Os, 3 Ds and 3 Ss in my possession. All 10 coins are nearly flawless, and by today’s grading standards (PCGS/NGC) are at least MS-69. Not knowing how widespread the problems are which you have reported, I can only consider myself fortunate (or lucky) to have received the coins I got. Still waiting to receive the Peace and P Morgan Dollars, so “knock on wood,” let’s… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Big T, I should have known I could count on you to hit the reality jackpot on this whole situation. After all, of course these are commemoratives no matter what else one may want to call them. It’s the old if it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck, then…well, you know. The Mint always finds ways to get around various legal strictures that it is otherwise bound by, for example the one that would have prevented this entire Morgan and Peace Dollar series from ever having been minted since we already had the two allotted commemorative… Read more »

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Rob S

Maybe you have what might be graded as RARE error coins?
Just got a note about this from APMEX –
https://www.apmex.com/category/96776/modern-mint-error-coins

I got a Proof ASE a couple years back that had what seemed to be a “fleck” on it and sent it back for a replacement. Maybe I shoulda kept it? Yeah, right.

Carl

As strange as it may seem my Morgan Philadelphia and Peace coins were shipped in separate packages both from Irving. According to tracking they were to arrive Tuesday but now one is in Cincinnati and the other still in Dallas. There are daily non-stop flights between Cincinnati and Dallas. Shipments from Memphis are by ground but with various routings. So shipments from Irving probably go by air to many destinations.

domenic

OK i may kick myself….but i was determined to complete the set. I bought a D and S Morgan off ebay for 125 each.(free shipping) I know i know $40 above mint price each. but MILES cheaper than the $400-$500 they were asking when they were first flipped on ebay by resellers……soooo i went for it (to me it seemed a reasonable markup….even thouight the coins were overpriced to begin with). May have a cost a little more this way but….to put it plainly….it made ME happy to complete my set with those missing 2 coins.

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Chris Terp

You got what you wanted and completed your set – good going! That is all that matters. Prices could go up also.

I am contemplating getting the 2021 ASE reverse proof (21XJ) set on eBay. But I am in no rush so prices may go up or stay flat, chance I am taking.

Howard Klein

Chris, I have 2 extra 21XJ sets available that my computer whizz sons were able to acquire. If you’re interested let me know. I’ll let them go at a fair price.

Rob S

I agree with Chris T. I know the feeling – had the itch to complete the set, found a source for an example of a CC and O for less than the $600+ graded prices I’ve seen, so I jumped (pre-ordered). Payed about 3x, but I’ll forget all about that after I have them. Betting with my head, not over it … or something.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Remember, Rob, that price is what you pay and value is what you get, and in the final analysis it is only value that matters. If you are happy with the result, then your purchase was a wise one. Enjoy!

domenic

BTW…it would be nice if the mint or another vender offered a display/storage box for all the 6 2021 Morgans and Peace Dollar.

Chris Terp

EZZZZZZZZZZACTLY domenic! Recent US Mint packaging atrocious and cheap. Miss the days when silver dollars came in a felt covered hinged box with a metal eagle on its top. Last one I got with good presentation box was the WWII Commemorative Silver Eagle with the 75 privy mark.

Why make collector coins and present them in shoddy and cheap box? And charge more for the coins and medals (medals just come in plastic bag wrapping)?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Chris, I’m with you there; I really miss those nice boxes the ASE’s used to come in. This is one place where the Mint should not have cheaped out, and it’s a crying shame that they did. Granted, content is always paramount, but attractive presentation isn’t that far behind. They could have sent a few less bucks to their masters at the Treasury at the end of the year and bought themselves tons of customer good will for that relatively small price in exchange. I often get the feeling that the powers that be at the Mint are past masters… Read more »

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Chris Terp

Heir Kaiser, it’s like Mint just forcing you to go to one of the grading services to get a better holder for your coin. And the cases those grading services put your coins in are just as bad in presentation.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Honestly, Chris, I have to admit I’ll grudgingly take the Mint’s chintzy new packaging over any sort of replacement box from a third party provider; there’s just something to be said for the factor of authenticity that always manages to swing the balance back to the Mint’s current admittedly cheesy packaging no matter what.

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Chris Terp

Agree Kaiser. Sad but true. And sad that Mint has taken the cheesy chintzy route with it’s presentation packaging on its precious metals items.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Chris, a seller always has two choices to stay profitable: raise the price or cheapen the product. The Mint has clearly chosen Door #2.

Chris Terp

Uhm, Mint has done both Kaiser. Silver dollars, commemoratives, medals, everything has gone up in price and cheapened the presentation boxes. Win, win for the Mint. Lose, lose for buyers 🙁

SENZA

I’m actually shocked they housed the Morgans and Peace dollars in this junk cardboard.

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Chris Terp

Yep, probably sourced from there or someplace similar unfortunately 😉

Kaiser Wilhelm

Looks like downtown Pyongyang, Little Fatty Flattop Land. Excellent choice.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

That’s probably how those Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars got all those scratches, nicks and blemishes we’ve been hearing about, by being packed right into that rough soaked cardboard without taking any obvious precautions.

Illustration below: U.S. Mint packaging for 2022

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Antonio

I’m fairly happy with the coins I received. I finally received all six (the last four I was waiting for) today. I really like the Peace dollar best but it looks like there’s a tiny ding on the 8 o’clock edge of the obverse. It’s hard to tell for sure without opening the case it’s in. Otherwise I’m happy with it and only bought one of each to collect, not for resale. I think the D and S mintmarks like too small. We’ll see if there are different sizes, like the quarter ounce AGE with a W mintmark on an… Read more »

Chris Terp

The Eagle has landed! Got all my backorders now. Morgan New Orleans came in earlier this week and the three Peace Dollars came today Saturday. All on great shape / good strikes – very pleased.

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Chris Terp

And the lovely ladies side …

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Rob S

Most awesome!! Those Peace $s look great. Glad I ordered those as well.

Got my Morgan D / S at noon. In pretty good shape, no complaints. (Man, those mint marks are minuscule. I NEED to use my glasses, teehee. The privy marks are going to be a bit of a let-down, maybe.)
My Ps and Peace $s are sitting at UPS in my town – no Sat delivery (no movement in status anyway) … wait til Mon. Thats torture.
Then its just waiting for the aftermarket stuff I recently pre-ordered. Due Nov / Dec or so.

Chris Terp

Yep, good day today for me Rob. Very please that all the coins I ordered came in good shape.

Looks like you are still in Carly Simon mode of “Anticipation is making me wait.”

All the best for you getting your coins soon and great shape too.

SENZA

Very Nice thanks for sharing

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Chris Terp

Yes, really pleased with the recent lot I received. Some of the best quality coins I have procured from the Mint.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Congrats, Chris. Looks like a great set!

Chris Terp

Yep, I lucked out / hit the lottery with the quality I got with these.

Domenic Vaiasicca

OMG. My first 2 finally showed up! Morgan and Peace P mints. Appear to be defect free too!

Chris Terp

Excellent Domenic!

domenic

D and S showed up today from Ebay….problem free! 2 more to go!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Congrats, domenic! Hope the others are just a flawless!

harryg

Just thought I would update everything after complaining about my Morgan S mint which has a nasty looking nick on the bust. I got the rest of my coins today and all were problem free. Just beautiful. In summation, 13 of the 14 coins I ordered the past few months were problem free. Just that Morgan S mint was the only stinker. It was not my intention to needlessly worry those still waiting for their coins to arrive. Overall I am very satisfied with the coins I received, just not satisfied with all the drama dealing with the mint. Good… Read more »

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Chris Terp

Good to learn your other coins are winners harryg.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Chris & harryg,

Another learning experience for all of us. With the Mint we have to stay alert and on our toes at all times or we’ll be left in the proverbial dust when it all shakes out.

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Antonio

Been put on the Remind Me list for the reverse proof ASEs. Received two email notifications, but when I got to the Mint site, nothing was available. This morning I got no email but for the heck of it checked the Mint site again. Nothing but went into the coin order anyway. To my surprise the button was available. Made my order with no problems whatsoever and it went through for one set. Talk about being at the right place at the right time. I’m only waiting for my confirmation email. After missing ordering on the first day, it’s very… Read more »

Antonio

Just received my confirmation from the Mint. That was fast.

Chris Terp

harryg, another commenter in another thread shot this over: (from Numi)

NEW FLASH…
Major Mint Error on 2021 Morgan…
Looks like the “blemish” shown by a contributor to one of these threads. If you remember who it was, please pass on link below:

https://www.numismaticnews.net/us-coins/major-error-on-2021-s-morgan-dollar?utm_medium=email&_hsmi=182108943&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8RBlQmCw3ugJ1Nxe3CBjm-KlwGqM7MzVUCNBFASBYGOeP363N3q8COSiVRvpgBCgr-gwl-Hi7094e3ECMi2FlArpYruA&utm_content=182108943&utm_source=hs_email

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Domenic Vaiasicca

So with all my talk about figuring a good way to store the morgans, peace, ase etc… I came across this box on amazon meant to store mint sets. Storing them singley in my safes is a headache….but with these i can keep groups together and label the outside. Very sturdy and seem like a good long term solution to the ever growing single issue dollars. Thoughts? They are made by guardhouse and reasonably priced….especially when you consider what they are protecting

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SENZA

What are they made out of? Wood? Resin? Cardboard? In my opinion they need to breath a little more and you might want a Hydrosorbent Silica Gel Desiccant. I actually found some plastic containers that were meant for crafts but fit the boxes perfectly and provide full protection but pricey – I do overkill……

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FViia

We are more interested in a link for the perfect plastic boxes.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I would advise being very careful regarding the storage of coins in plastic containers, FViia. Plastic containers that are made with PVC release vapors over time that tend to severely discolor the coins the boxes are storing.

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FViia

Myself it is just cardboard boxes. There is also an 18′ GoldenRod in there. I use special ‘microwave’ plastic for documents, currency, etc. to keep them dry. I believe they are the same as the monster boxes (polypropylene or recycle 5 stamped).

Kaiser Wilhelm

FViia, I use all cardboard boxes also, not shoeboxes but rather an upscale version from an arts and crafts supply store. They work fine.

Domenic Vaiasicca

Heres a better image of the guardhouse box on amazon.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Looks like it definitely fits the bill, Domenic. Thanks for sharing that.

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Kia99

These dollars are remarkably beautiful, but how did the mint do it? The mint lists the finish as uncirculated but look under a microscope and you’ll see it isn’t mechanically burnished or laser frosted. Have they told us how they created this brilliant uncirculated finish? It is a lot more than just “uncirculated”, it looks counterfeit resistant.

Rob S

Maybe I’m naive, but I didnt think UNC constituted any kind of other special treatment. Just stamp the coin and immediately encapsulate it, but not put in circulation (bags, rolls, etc). Maybe they typically clean the blanks but skipped a step in this case … perhaps for a more classic look, looking closer to the original coins??

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob,

I think your explanation is right on the money (pun most certainly intended). Uncirculated coins are struck specially for collectors; it doesn’t mean they’re business strikes that haven’t been distributed to the public yet.

Rob S

Yup – it doesnt help that they confuse things with something like Enhanced UNC – which has some sort of laser treatment (on the dies?) or something, that gives a frosted effect.
“Burnished” has me scratching my head – is that what they do for bullion coins – or is that Business strike? I’ve only heard of that rather recently (maybe a few years or so). It sounds like a treatment on top of UNC, but why do that for bullion “investment” pieces?

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Rob S

On top of that, my UNC 2020 palladium says its “Special Strike”? Whazzat?? And the official grade is SP70, so why not MSnn?
Its not “Bullion” since I didnt have to get it from an authorized dealer, got it direct from the mint.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob,

I have to say, you do manage to find some unusual nomenclatures.

Frankly, the only “special strike” I’m familiar with is the launching of a Hellfire missile from a high-flying drone at some terrorist schmuck driving down a dirt road in the “Caliphate”. Boom.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Rob,

I seems you’ve become somewhat overwhelmed by the Mint’s somewhat arcane terminology. Let’s see if we can dig you out from under this pile of verbiage.

Bullion: Bullion Strike; equivalent of Business Strike.
Business Strike: Single Strike Uncirculated for Federal Reserve Uncirculated: Double Struck (Numismatic Quality).
Enhanced Uncirculated: Double Struck, Frosted Planchets (NQ).
Burnished: Double Struck, Abraded Planchets (NQ).

I hope that helps at least a little. I left the Proof varieties for another time.

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Rob S

Boom. Claro. Denke. 😉

In 2016 they did the gold version of the 100 yr anniversary Mercury dimes, Standing Liberty qtrs, and Walking Liberty halves. They indicated those were Business Strikes – but sold from the mint. That lead to some disappointment in the anniv re-issues. Those shoulda been Proof (IMO) – makes one wonder.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Excellent point, Rob. At the very least the Mint should have double-struck all of those coins to at least bring them up to the numismatic standard of uncirculated rather than leave them at business strike level. What a wasted opportunity, and I would say rather lazy behavior at that.

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Antonio

So that’s what all those returns are about. They’re the only coins that I see with a weekly negative revision to their numbers.

Kia99

Indeed you’re right Rob S and Kaiser, their terms are confusing and change over time. The mint’s site says: “Uncirculated Coins: Are hand-loaded into the coining press and struck on specially burnished blanks, yet have a soft, matte-like finish appearance.” “Circulating Coins: Are produced for circulations, but those sold directly by the United States Mint are never released to the Federal Reserve Bank” ” Proof blanks are specially treated, hand-polished, and cleaned to ensure high-quality strikes. The blanks are then fed into presses fitted with specially polished dies and struck at least twice. The coins are then carefully packaged to… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Kia99, thanks so very much for providing that very specific and detailed explanation on the types of Mint strikes. Invariably, after all, it’s best to get information directly from the original source, which you wisely did.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

It’s been my understanding, Kia99, that all “burnished” coins are “uncirculated” but not all “uncirculated” coins are “burnished”. Perhaps these dollars are in the latter category.

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