Five related products launch today from the United States Mint with the release of the 2025-W Proof American Gold Eagles. These include four individual proof Gold Eagles in varying sizes, along with a four-coin set that contains all of them.
The largest of the individual coins is the one-ounce piece, followed by fractional sizes of one-half ounce, one-quarter ounce, and one-tenth ounce. They carry face values of $50, $25, $10, and $5, respectively, and are each struck in 22-karat gold (91.67% gold, 3.0% silver, balance copper) at the U.S. Mint’s West Point facility.
Despite their hefty price tags, American Gold Eagles remain popular. This is especially true for the Mint’s bullion versions, which are sold for investment purposes, but also applies – albeit to a lesser extent—to today’s proof editions. Collectors seek proof editions for their enhanced detail, with frosted design elements contrasting against mirror-like backgrounds.
Last year’s proof Gold Eagles, which debuted in May, recorded sales through March 9 of this year totaling 3,685 one-ounce coins, 1,919 half-ounce coins, 5,249 quarter-ounce coins, 10,346 tenth-ounce coins, and 4,755 four-coin sets.
Coin Designs
Augustus Saint-Gaudens’ depiction of Liberty appears on the obverse (heads side) of American Gold Eagles, as it has since their introduction in 1986. In 2021, historical artifacts and modern technology were used to enhance the design in celebration of the program’s 35th anniversary. However, the artwork itself dates back much further, originally appearing on $20 gold coins minted from 1907 to 1933. Obverse inscriptions include "LIBERTY," "2025," and a "W" mintmark indicating production at the West Point Mint.
Alongside the refreshed obverse in 2021, the U.S. Mint introduced an entirely new reverse (tails side) design, which continues on these latest coins. It features a detailed close-up of an eagle’s head, created by Jennie Norris of the U.S. Mint’s Artistic Infusion Program (AIP) and sculpted by Mint Medallic Artist Renata Gordon.
Reverse inscriptions include "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA," "E PLURIBUS UNUM," and "IN GOD WE TRUST." Also displayed are the artists’ initials, the coin’s face value, and its precious metal weight.
Specifications of American Gold Eagles
The table below presents the specifications for each American Gold Eagle.
| $50 | $25 | $10 | $5 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Composition | 22 Karat Gold (91.67% Gold 3.0% Silver Balance Copper) |
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| Weight | 1.0909 troy oz. (33.931 grams) |
0.5455 troy oz. (16.966 grams) |
0.2727 troy oz. (8.483 grams) |
.1091 troy oz. (3.393 grams) |
| Diameter | 1.287 inches (32.70 mm) |
1.063 inches (27.00 mm) |
0.866 inch (22.00 mm) |
0.650 inch (16.50 mm) |
| Edge | Reeded Edge Variation | Reeded Edge | ||
| Thickness | 0.113 inch (2.87 mm) |
0.085 inch (2.15 mm) |
0.070 inch (1.78 mm) |
0.049 inch (1.26 mm) |
Limits, Prices and Ordering
Numismatic gold coins from the U.S. Mint can be ordered through its online store.
Debut pricing, along with product, mintage, and household order limits for the 2025 Proof American Gold Eagles are as follows:
| Product Option | Product Limit | Mintage Limit | Household Order Limit | Price* |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 $50 American Eagle Gold Proof Coin (1 oz.) | 7,500 | 17,500 | 3 | $3,850.00 |
| 2025 $25 American Eagle Gold Proof Coin (1/2 oz.) | 4,000 | 14,000 | 3 | $1,950.00 |
| 2025 $10 American Eagle Gold Proof Coin (1/4 oz.) | 6,000 | 16,000 | 3 | $1,002.50 |
| 2025 $5 American Eagle Gold Proof Coin (1/10 oz.) | 12,000 | 22,000 | 3 | $430.00 |
| 2025 American Eagle Gold Proof Coins (Four-Coin Set) | 10,000 | N/A | 3 | $7,182.50 |
*Like other precious metal coins from the U.S. Mint, pricing is subject to weekly adjustments based on the Mint’s precious metals coin pricing matrix.
25+% premium – count me out ! Once you’ve got ONE proof example, who needs to pay that premium when you can get the bullion version for hugely lower premiums? It’s like getting extra gold for free when you buy bullion.
Again, JMHO
That’s me!
The price of these coins in the 1980s and 1990s had a premium as well. Needless to say, they are worth MUCH more than what I bought them for then.
It is done. No waiting room. I sailed through the order process.
The 40-year run continues. Since I’ve been ordering from the Mint, except for the WWII privy, I’m not sure I’ve ever had to resort to the secondary market for a gold proof American Eagle coin.
REB,
Congratulations on your success and commitment in assembling a complete American Eagle Gold Proof Coin series (1986-2025), a truly remarkable achievement.
Thanks, Rich.
Good consistency Reb, pricey nowadays but say in 2027: who know$? Personally, I started buying proofs in1986….nowhere close to a full run, but at the millennium I picked up many proof 1z AGE for around $420….25 years but a nice investment. Many 10th z proofs over the years @LCS @$60 a pop, I can’t fathom paying close to $500 for a 10th z Au. No doubt Cag will say too cheap, but they will be Availabe looong time. I always look for the next play Pd cheap, stocks y, I did short Musks Tesla, cleaned up a bit, ended 1… Read more »
I completely understand your frustration. I’ve nearly bailed multiple times over the years. The last instance was that damned Flowing Hair Gold. Grrrrrrr.
Yup Reb, I was like Michael Corleone, the 2019 ASE enhanced was a mess…..I really stopped most tried for the V75s, a couple others CU really quick, hey dragged me back with the FHG, I passed in fHS despite the privy chance, deep down x spot+ I passed in. FHG was a repeat of several traumatize (hahahaha) efforts. Especially nasty as I was fast, got from waiting room to mint I 1 m entered into clicked buy…REMOVE FROM YOUR CART….uh ok, resulting ins cluster and many like me scratching their heads. The Mint lied on mintages, Vthe Mint lied on… Read more »
Lightning-fast delivery – ordered on Thursday, delivered today!
Hey REB. I am like you. But I didn’t start collecting coins in until 2009.I have the 2013 1/2oz proof eagle that I need to grade one day. It’s the only Type 1 I have besides the 2 coin 1/10 oz Gold eagle designer set. Maybe I will have PCGS grade it at the new coin show IMEX I think it’s called. It’s going to be in Nashville Tennessee and I have never been there so would be nice to take my mom and cousin or possibly the World Fair of Money in Oklahoma. I have all the 1/2oz for… Read more »
“This year a lot of gold coins are coming out. I have the whole liberty series so I have to save for that and maybe the Gold Batman, Superman, and Wonder woman.”
I hear you, AdamL. There’s TOO much gold out this year. There are the ones you mentioned AND the Marine Corps commem along with the Buffalo, And who knows? Maybe the Mint will run it back with another privy on gold like last year’s Flowing Hair.
Enjoy those coin shows, man. I went to my first one last month in Charlotte and thoroughly enjoyed it.
cagcrisp 02/11/2025
Reply to Rick
No prediction…
cagcrisp 02/11/2025
Reply to cagcrisp
90:1 currently
In 9 months:
Under 90:1 -130
Over 90:1 +110
Fast Forward 37 days:
Currently 91:1
In 2002 I bought my first four piece gold set for $999.99 from the US mint the 2025 set from the mint is $7182 today .$6182 difference in 23 years so what is the price going to be in 23 years from now? Lets hear your opinions.
Spitballin’ here but I think gold will likely be over $10,000 per ounce by 2048. So, the set will be in the neighborhood of $13-15k. I doubt I’ll be around for my guess to be checked; so, I don’t have to worry about spittin’ into the wind on this one.
REB,
If your prognostication comes true, somehow I doubt the mint will be selling the set for anywhere close to $13-$15K. With 1.85 ounces of Au, their price point would be in the $20 plus range. It depends on how greedy they are in 2048. I doubt any of us will be around for that scenario! Cheers.
I’m just speculating here, but it’s possible, Craig, that even your prediction of $20K (although you did say plus) for the price of the gold four-coin set in 2048 may end up being just a bit low. I’m guessing it will be closer to $23K-$24K the way things are going unless something drastic changes between now and then, which of course is always a possibility. But like you said, not many of us are going to be around by then to find out who was the closest.
I initially put the price point in the $20-$25k range, but since it is all speculation, I just decided on the $20K plus range. I doubt they’d be selling many sets at those prices, right? I’m curious as to how many 2025 sets they’ll part with at $7182.00…Yikes!
But i. 2048 any pay phones will cost $1,000 for a long distance call…
John Q. Coinage,
If you happen upon a public pay phone in 2048 and manage to toss it into the back of your fusion-powered hovertruck before anyone notices you may well have a multi-million-bitcoin item in your possession to auction off in New Capitalist China.
That four-coin set will indeed be a tough sell for the Mint this year, Craig. I’m just wild arse guessing here, but I think that people who don’t have a lot of discretionary cash will skip this one entirely while those others who have money to burn are rather more likely to go for gold bullion or gold bricks instead.
Well interesting but I’d be old…..111 by then
Just curious, John Q. Coinage, but are you saying you’re 88 years young now?
ooops Miss added…. 91 in ‘48…..
I feel 88 some x……
Aha, so by my own typically sorry math you appear to be 68. My chronological trajectory for 2048 will put me at, gulp, 100.
All this talk of setting records. How quickly we forget the past. Or is gold somehow immune from becoming a bubble?
Excellent point, Michael. In this age of what appear to be repeating cycles of shady investment instruments causing all manner of corporate and private entities to go bust and as such collectively managing to take the entire national economy down with them, I do believe your timely words of caution should be taken quite seriously.
Mike,
I also have many sets bought at that price point. Never thought in a million years that I’d see the price point the mint currently wants. But then again, back in 90’s I never thought we’d be over 36 trillion in debt! I’m happy with the Au coins I have, and even though I have plenty of $$$’s to spend, I’m not interested in paying over $7K for 1.85 ounces of Au.
REVERAND
Just sayin’ – $800 to strike a coin in proof just seems like gouging! How can they strike silver Kennedy’s for less than 1/10 of of the cost.
OK, I know, because they can! And lots of people have money to burn.
I just wonder how many more they’d sell at a $400 premium. Guess we’ll never know
The silver proof AWQs are getting ready to be mailed out. $95 a set of five. Nothing like the cost of the four coin gold proof set. Ouch. I remember my 1995 AGE and 2006 Buffalo gold proofs were both $999. And I thought the Gold Buffalo was a steal. I believe the following year, the price ballooned up to $1300.
The clad AWQ are coming out next …the silver versions coming in April as part of the Annual silver proof set.
Thanks. I think this’ll be my last silver proof set. It’s gotten too expensive and I’ve decided to stick with the ASE, Morgan and Peace dollars. With that, I’m happy with what I have.
Antonio,
Welcome to the glorious world of numismatic belt-tightening. Grab a seat!
I noticed that the Mint took down the April 3rd release date for the silver proof AWQs, I wonder why?
Knowing the Mint. CarlS, it might be because they’re going to raise the price again.
Antonio,
If you paid $999 for the proof 2006 buffalo coin, in 2006, then you paid too much. I bought several from the mint in 2006 for a mere $800 each. Oh, those were the days! Cheers
Something interesting to ponder… Consider the 2025 Proof GAE 4-coin set (1.85 oz gold) debut price today of $7,182.50 with the gold spot price of $3,045, yielding a gold melt value of $5,633.25. The 2024 Proof GAE 4-coin set debut price was $5,980.00 and the 2023 Proof GAE 4-coin set debut price was $5,332.50. This example demonstrates that U.S. Mint Gold American Eagle, American Buffalo and Liberty products are really worth their weight in gold and underscores cagcrisp’s view on the Mint’s pricing of its numismatic gold.
The United States Mint has been giving away Gold for years…
Skate to where the puck is going, not where it has been – Wayne Gtetzky
Wise words…..perhaps a new quatrain
Sooner or later we all know the puck will end up in the net, but it is all the back-and-forth that determines how the game should be played.
Not exactly. If the price of gold is determined by the precious metal market then all the Mint is doing is following the same price guidelines as everybody else.
I disagree. Gold has been going up so no matter what your proof gold investment is, it looks like you make money on paper. Wait till you sell. $5,400 for the four coin proof set today. You could have made more just by buying the four coins in bullion. Or invest your money in the market. Sounds like 1929 where the shoe shine boy gives stock tips and they all work out great because it is a bull market. Buy the proofs because you like them and appreciate their beauty. If you make money, that’s a bonus.
The World’s Above Ground Stock of Gold: All of the known Gold mined since the beginning of Modern Civilization has been estimated to be around 216,265 tonnes (source: World Gold Council). Due to mining, the World’s Gold Supply increases by 1-2% a year. 1 tonne = 2000 pounds = 32,000 ounces. 32,000 ounces x 216,265 Tonnes = 6,920,480,000 ounces = 6.9B ounces of Gold that exists in the world today. 6,920,480,000 ounces x $3,000/ounce = $20,761,440,000,000 = $20.7T USD The World’s entire Above Ground Stock of Gold is worth = $20.762T USD. The World’s Narrow Money Supply (M0): The world’s… Read more »
There isn’t enough Gold in the world to make it happen for the US. Gold would need to go to $60K an ounce to make it work across all of the World’s Largest Economys. In 2024, Zimbabwe went to a Gold Standard. But its total money supply was only worth $575M. The Gold Standard was abandoned in 1933 due to extreme price volatility in the World Economy and it was preventing the World Economy from growing and getting out of the Great Depression. There are a lot of benefits to having a floating fiat currency. As long as a country has… Read more »
The countries with the largest gold reserves are ranked as follows:
1.United States: 8,133 tons
2.Germany: 3,352 tons
3.Italy: 2,452 tons
4.France: 2,437 tons
5.Russia: 2,333 tons.
China’s gold reserves are approximately 2,279.56 tons as of the fourth quarter of 2024.
Source: http://www.worldpopulationreview.com
The cost of mining one ounce of gold varies depending on factors like location, mining methods, and operational expenses. On average, the all-in sustaining cost (AISC) for mining gold is estimated to range between $1,000 and $1,200 per ounce.
source: http://www.americanbullion.com
Major D said…”Perhaps in anticipation on a new world gold standard.” Fortifying and building up a nation’s gold reserve is not the same as re-adopting the Gold Standard. Inventorying and revaluing a nation’s gold reserve in not the same as re-adopting the Gold Standard. Project 2025….it advocates instead that the dollar be backed by a commodity like gold. In reality, only a very small percentage of our money could be backed by Gold. It sounds good on the Campaign Stump. But the numbers say “Impossible.” For 1 USD to equal 1 Dollar of Gold when Gold was $20/ounce – yes.… Read more »
The Current Value of the US Gold Reserve:
8,133 Avoirdupois Tones of Gold = $780B USD
Assume: 1 ounce of Gold = $3,000.
Assume: Purity = 99.9%
Finally, Major D, remember this……..
Socrates taught Plato.
Plato taught Aristotle.
Aristotle taught Alexander the Great.
And Alexander the Great ruled the World.
You’ve just been schooled.
The signs are there, but the logic isn’t. Neither is the math. The non-thinking person who wrote that article didn’t do his homework and obviously lacks intellectual breadth on the subject. Zimbabwe had experienced severe hyper-inflation for several decades and eventually their currency became worthless. So, they had no choice but to go to a Gold Standard. It was kind of like being put on C.O.D. or Cashiers Check Required for a buyer whose money was no longer good or they no longer had credit in the world markets. Fortunately for Zimbabwe, their inflation exhausted money supply was very small… Read more »
Considerably classy classic coin!
E1,
and Assume: the gold is still in our reserves!
I’m not sure, E 1, that there’s any way to get around the cold hard fact that the total amount of gold in the hands of the US government is without question categorically inadequate when compared to the size of all the ingredients of the economy.
Trump could revalue @$30,000 an Oz. Problem solved
Bring it! I’ll take it!
Cheers
Cool. I could use the two 1/10 ounce gold coins I own as a form of down-payment on a brand new subcompact car!
It seems to me, E 1, that perhaps this isn’t so much a case of there not being enough gold to go around but rather a matter of far too many dollars chasing what limited amount of gold there is. It’s similar to what I’ve been saying for over sixty years, that it’s not a matter of there being a shortage of natural resources on earth but rather a case of there being far too many people for what will ever be available.
Perhaps we should take into account those notoriously sneaky Swiss. I just have to wonder exactly how much gold the world’s most secretive bankers have managed to squirrel away.
E1,
Actually scientists estimate there is a vast amount of gold in our core. Some claim there is enough to cover our entire planets surface to a depth of 2′ worth of Au. Would that be enough to back our currency? The problem, of course, is extracting it to the surface. I think we’ll be able to mine asteroids laden with precious metals long before any of that Au gets to our surface.
Craig and E 1,
The problem I see with being able to extract literally millions of tons of gold from the earth’s core is that with so much of the metal available it’s rather likely its value would tend to plummet and as such it would end up being necessary for us to find a much scarcer precious metal to back our currency.
That’s the same reason the DeBeers hold vast quantities of diamonds in storage. If they flooded the market with them, they would be as cheap as rice. Oh the horror. I’ve read they estimate there is over a quadrillion tons of Au in our core and some asteroids are laden with enough Au to make every single person living on this planet a trillionaire. Have a great day, fellow trillionaire! Lol.
“Have a great day, fellow trillionaire!”
Lol, indeed. Good (and very funny) one, Craig.
I’ve always loved the thought of that paradoxical concept, Craig, because the obvious result of everyone being rich is that no one is rich, since wealth is not an absolute but a relative value.
You certainly hit the bullseye with that one Craig, as DeBeers has managed to perpetrate what is doubtless one of the biggest scams in the history of marketing and salesmanship.
By the way, if everyone is a trillionaire then no one is rich. Cool.
E 1, at present with the world above ground stock of gold totaling about 6.9 billion ounces and the world’s total population at approximately 8.2 billion people, means there is less that 1 ounce of gold per person in the world to go around.
Rich,
I concur and still not enough to support a modern-day Gold Standard Currency.
Cheers
Thanks for the concise statistics and commentary, capturing the physical gold discussion better than anywhere I have seen, and i have been studying since 2006.
You are very welcome Harry.
Cheers
E 1 and Rich,
With the addition of every single new soul on the planet the gold-to-person ratio will fall further. If nothing else, the mere fact that the earth’s population continues to grow unchecked at an exponential rate tends to put the absolute kibosh on there being any possibility of a workable return to the gold standard.
“In order for the entire World to convert to a Gold Standard, the price of Gold would need to be $59,224 per ounce.”
This means that just 1/10 of an ounce of gold would be worth double what an entire ounce of gold is valued at now. It also means to view a gold coin worth anything less than a thousand dollars (or 1/60 of an ounce) would likely require substantial magnifying assistance.
Kaiser,
At $59,224 per ounce we would all be Heros!
E 1,
I really like Motorhead’s cover of Heroes, one of Lemmy’s last recordings.
Thanks in advance.
E 1,
Anyone in possession of gold on the day that such a price is declared official would certainly be a big winner if not exactly a hero, while those who hadn’t as yet come into possession of any of that very precious metal prior to its massive value upgrade would be out of luck and left to bemoan their fate as they stood on the outside looking in.
It’s hard to believe David Bowie and so very many other musical greats are not around anymore. Sheesh.
Kaiser,
I know. The memories of them, much like a beautiful rare coin that one won’t let go of – they always remain with us. Thank God for the Digital Age. Here is another musical great that can’t be forgotten. This was his last performance in Rapid City South Dakoda (1977). Priceless.
I remember when I lived in Virginia in 1977, Elvis was supposed to play the Roanoke Civic Center in late August/early September. Obviously, the concert got cancelled. Ads played on the Roanoke radio station for weeks announcing that the venue was offering refunds on tickets to the lost show.
I’ve always wondered how many people cashed in their tickets. What might one of those unused tickets be worth today? (I’m too lazy to find out.)
I saw Elvis at the Hilton I Vega$ when I was 16, Jimi @ Forum first concert, w Chicago Transit aAuthority….still have the Elvis menu
Very cool.
E 1,
You are so right about that. Every time another one of The Greats passes on I find myself somehow personally affected even though I’ve obviously never gotten anywhere near this individual in his or her lifetime, and just like you said the feeling of their “presence” doesn’t seem to ever let go. By the way, I really like this series of music videos you’ve been gracing us with; what a treat! Many thanks for doing that, especially since they tend to take my mind to good places every time.
You’re welcome Kaiser. It started out a little wonkie. But it seems to be working. No one should take any of them personal or too serious though. Just enjoy them for the absolute historical works of art that they are.
Peace Out and Be Happy!
Since I have long been addicted to YouTube music videos in general, these are right up my alley from the get go, E 1. Thanks again!
He seemed to go fast! Keith Moon, Bonham, Jimi, Janis, Brian Jones, Croce, Lennon, even John Denver many more…..
So true, John Q. … and one of my favorites, Bon Scott.
Rich, Jon Scott passed in 1980.So, I couldn’t find anything with him in high definition. But I found this….
Rich,
I may have seen BON Scott at the “Day on the Green” in the Oakland Coliseum around 1979 when AC/DC played there. I went to all of the “Day on the Green” concerts back then. Oh how I could go on and on about those days.
Cheers
Wow, E 1, you sure were fortunate to attend such legendary Rock Concerts in your time, like Lynyrd Skynyrd in the summer of 1977.
… shine on forever
Ok Rich, One more time for you good buddy. You might like this one better. Cheers
Loved Bon and have the AC/DC Let there Be Rock BluRay dvd…always play at full volume! Where are bands like this today?
That’s for sure, Craig. And I might add, Where Have All the Good Times Gone?
As we all know that list goes on, Jon Q. Coinage, and much too long at that, with the likes of George Harrison, Jim Morrison, Otis Redding, Duane Allman, Lou Reed, Arthur Lee and countless others who while gone are definitely not forgotten.
From the third release, Forever Changes, of the group Love, their masterpiece and possibly one of the best albums ever:
My $30k proposal was low huh, make it $100k and 2,000 Ag
But John Q. Coinage, then only Space X to Mars or Bust Elon Musk and the Crown Prince Whatever His Name Is of Saudi Arabia would be able to collect precious metal coinage. Holy Gold Cow, Batman!
But, we prior collectors in like Flynn
Well yes you are, John Q. Coinage, and a good position to be in it is. Owning gold is now awesome, having to buy it not so much.
Trump seems hotter on a National Vitcoin reserve…talk about blowing taxpayers $$$$, I think it not th kind of blowing he prefers….
E1-
Not trying to be too nit-picky, but a tonne is a metric ton; i.e., 2200 lbs. avoirdupois. A short ton (US) is 2000 lbs. That detail certainly does not invalidate your math, just off by 10%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonne
Thank you Sam.
And a Metric Tonne is 1,000 Kilograms.
1 Kilogram = 2.212 pounds.
1 Metric tonne = 2,212 avoirdupois pounds.
Source: Just off the top of my head.
Cheers
All of my calcs were done in Short Tons (US).
Thank you for the link Sam and thank you for checking.
A second set of eyes is always best.
E 1-
You’re quite welcome. I wasn’t sure which unit of measure you were working with, given the intentional spelling (tonne). My wife usually serves as my second pair of eyes for me, and she’s saved my butt more than once. After 44 years, I’d be lost without her.
Sam,
I would be six feet under by now without my wife. No doubt.
Cheers
E 1 and Sam-I-am,
I’m liking this wife appreciation society since my own wife is not just the love of my life but the center of my universe. ✨
A flourishing stock market benefits many, a thriving gold market serves a few.
And many billions of people are doing just fine without either one of those ‘markets’…
Yeah, I can see that.
Kaiser,
I wonder if the billion or so Chinese peasants think things are just fine without access to any financial markets? All I’ll say is I’m glad I was born in a society that allows one to reach for the stars. I couldn’t be where I am today without those markets.
Craig, Why in God’s name did you address that question to me? You clearly should have put it to Rick for saying the following: “And many billions of people are doing just fine without either one of those ‘markets’…” After all, if you or anyone else is choosing to disagree with any of the facts or ideas put forth here it is essential these differences of opinion are brought directly to the attention of the person you’re disagreeing with and not someone else such as myself who in this case clearly agreed with your point of view from the very… Read more »
Craig,
Forget about my rant. I must have slipped and popped a gasket.
If we took every Middle Class American Dollar and gave it to the World’s poor, we wouldn’t even put a dent in the problem. That is how few Middle Class Americans there are in the world when compared to the total number of poor and impoverished people in the world. Most world poverty is caused by social casting, religious belief, and corrupt political leadership. So, don’t blame yourself and don’t believe you can fix the problem.
If you want to make the world a better place, help a family member, help a neighbor, or help a good friend. Better yet, volunteer your time to local community service.
Either you’re talking to yourself now or you’re still carrying on with me, and quite unnecessarily so. I think I’ve made my thoughts on this more than abundantly clear; any further comments ought and need to be addressed to your only viable antagonist in this matter, to wit Rick.
Kaiser,
No worries.
Peace
E 1,
Many, many thanks for the calming voice. I needed that.
E 1,
Ditto on dousing this one too.
God bless.
E 1,
Allow me to extinguish the fire that was burning my rear.
Namaste
E 1, I see I’m going to have to say the same thing to you that I just took some pains to point out to Craig, which is that I haven’t the foggiest notion as to why you addressed your comment to me when it is so glaringly obvious that it is Rick rather than me you should instead be having this very discussion with since it was he who made the following pronouncement: And many billions of people are doing just fine without either one of those ‘markets’… Look, I know, or at least I would hope, that you… Read more »
Whoa buddy, you must’ve missed your nap, or your meds? Wow. I guess you missed my point? Which was a simple counter-point to your comment when you were boasting a flourishing stock market as benefiting many, while dogging the thriving physical Gold market as serving few. False view you have when you look at the big picture. Billions of people don’t give a damn, or even know what those ‘markets’ even are, or what they mean. A simple point that you don’t get? Your pipe-dream, utopian belief of “tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no rich no… Read more »
This just happens to be a classic example of how you can appear all too often, for reasons entirely opaque and far beyond any sense and purpose I could ever imagine, to go completely off the rails, Rick, but then, as the love-struck Joe E. Brown said to the cross-dressed Tony Curtis in Some Like it Hot, “Nobody’s perfect.” I nevertheless have to find myself wondering why in God’s name you find it all that necessary to come up with so many fictional “attributions” the likes of: “A simple point that you don’t get? Your pipe-dream, utopian belief of “tax… Read more »
Kaiser, let the record show that your post above, was political in nature, from your bleeding, confused heart, and nothing new. You were successful in getting a reaction from others, and to your surprise at that, congrats.
“To invent such a truly feverish notion of outlook for me, especially one which is absolutely nowhere apparent or even remotely alluded to in my comment at that”
“Yeah, I can see that.”
With that out of the way…
I’m glad that you snuck your nap in Kaiser, you had me going for a sec. Your long winded, well crafted, linguistically lavish screed is well taken, great reveal on how you deflect, by the way!
Move-on-dot-com. No regrets. No anger on my end!
Happy coin, stock, and physical Gold investing to you, my
friend!
Damn, that’s what it was, Rick old buddy, I just forgot to take my mandatory daily nap. Additionally, I’m typically given to forgetting exactly how much my confused bleeding heart tends to exacerbate the already debilitating consequences of my innate drastically limited awareness. The whole catastrophe!
Nice one! Interestingly enough, I had the same thoughts about your narcissistic tendencies, particularly when you play the victim. But fear not, your secret is mine, ol’ pal. Sometimes we do think along the same lines, surprise, surprise!
Did I say move-on-dot-com? Oh yeah, I forgot!
As the only victim you have no choice but to victimize yourself. What’s unusually bizarre is your contradictory self-adulation.
Uh-oh, a Gravatar/Personality change means only one thing!? The sweeping comment deletion time is near.
Say it ain’t so Joe!?
It ain’t so, Rick, not this time anyway. As for the change, I got tired of looking back at myself; was making me self-conscious.
Who even said this? I’m afraid I’ll likely never find out. Oh well.
Yep, way past ready to move along. Let’s hit the highway. Road trip!
I did have a nap, Rick, albeit slumped over my keyboard. Rather unusually for me, I didn’t dream. Quite puzzling.
Ouch, now that is really starting to hurt!
Flashbacks are not my friend, Rick. If you know anyone who collects them, I’m having a real nightmare of a sale.
I think it was my meds, Rick. Happens more times than I would like.
Maybe that’s what I need, some meds?
Time to get some coins out and enjoy, that’ll do the trick!
Rick,
Question: What do some medications and all of coin collecting have in common?
Answer: They can both be hopelessly addicting.
Query: Do you think we need a Numismatists Anonymous?
Problem: Can’t use NA; property of Narcotics Anonymous.
Solution: Open to ideas and suggestions for the above…
Again, no big deal. No worries.
Peace Out
Again, many thanks for your kindness. I think my fever’s gone now.
Alles Gute
Exactly, East Coast Guru. Collecting coins with the idea of making money is akin to driving a new car off the lot in order to increase its selling price.
I’ll disagree with your wildly blanketed statement. The “Ruth E” family might have something to say about your belief as well…
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1655587/1975-Roosevelt-Dime-No-S-PCGS-Proof-67-CAC-Green-Toned-with-Balance-of-Proof-Set-Documentation-The-Ruth-E-Discovery-Coin
I have several examples myself where, once off of the proverbial lot, the value increased significantly. Here’s a favorite “investment” coin in my collection. 4 figures, to 5 figures after a little TLC restoration to “cherry” the ol’ classic beauty back to it’s glory days…..
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/49877737
… ’76 was a good year for coins…
It was also a good year to be alive.
Agree, that was a great time in my life.
At just 11 years old then, I’d never imagined that I was about to embark on a wild life ride. Living the life of a privileged rich kid then, to being on my own at 16 years old in ’81, just 5 years later. Riches to rags, to an average Joe in the end. Looking back, I wouldn’t have it any other way…
Sounds like a book is coming. Let me know when it hits Amazon, Rick.
Everyone’s life has its twists, turns, and adventures, so I’m no different than y’all really.
If I were a cat, I might have 5 lives left, so all is good!
Rock the House Bro.
That coin turned out great!
Cheers
As observed here, some rare coin collectors also collect rare art. In the world of high art, Vincient Van Gogh is one of the most interesting of case studies. Most of his one-off masterpieces that exist today can only be found in the greatest of world class art museums. Only a few of his pieces are held in private collections with price estimates in the tens of millions of dollars each. Van Gogh painted until his death at age 37 in 1890. One his most famous paintings was “Stary Stary Night.” Van Gogh was noted for saying “I Paint Light!”… Read more »
E1,
Don McLean, he just took me on a Journey into the “Stary, Stary Night” like never before. Great capture there.
Thumbs up!
Van Gogh, he’s pretty spot on, for being a bit off…
You’re on a roll E, keep up the good work!
Rick,
I just thought the “Master of Coin Conservation” would appreciate that connection to the art world. That 76-S turned out great!
Old Don can’t sing as good as he used to. For more info on Van Gogh, watch “Eternity’s Gate” on Prime.
Cheers
Thanks E1✓
That’s a one in a billion example. Most others, maybe yes, maybe no.
Rick,
Where’s the fun in collecting coins when there’s no potential for price appreciation? Anyone who’s collected Au or Ag coins from the 80’s and 90’s is feeling really good these days. I think Kaiser might be referring to buying the new coins and trying to instantly sell them on feeBay for an insane markup. Just trying to bail him out! Cheers
Craig,
Thanks, I do appreciate the sentiment and the intent of your kind and thoughtful offer of assistance. Why I don’t however need a bailout though is that since the reason(s) for collecting coins can be so very different from one person to the next there really is no right or wrong way to collect coins; it’s all a matter of what particular aspect of collecting floats each individual collector’s boat. As has been said so many times before and will likely be needed to say again, “Each to his own.”
That’s how I like to collect coins, to strive for a chance at a future profit for myself or my heirs. I wish I had started when you did Craig and gang, I’m only 16 years a collector/investor, I’m a rookie. Others claim to collect for the sheer enjoyment without a care about a price appreciation or not, and I don’t believe them for a second, but that’s just me…
Rick, it’s useful and wise to have that codicil about an apparently unfounded disbelief in what others say simply being limited to your way of thinking, otherwise people might just surmise you choose to confine yourself solely to what you want to believe.
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I appreciate you describing yourself, and your continuous codicils to fit you’re ever changing narratives, nice reveal. You’re pretty good at self reflection.
Happy coin investing!
Needless to say it’s excruciatingly obvious that you are a life-long total stranger to any form of self-reflection whatsoever; therefore I’m exceedingly surprised, actually astonished, you have even the slightest remote familiarity with the concept.
Rick,
That’ll be $500 in gold for that complete diagnosis at a distance.
Physical, not paper!
“Let’s get physical, physical…”
RIP Olivia Newton-John
Rich,
I’m a bit lost here. If this year’s set costs $7182.50 for what is presently $5,633.25 worth of gold, how does that equate to the set being worth its weight in gold?
Sir Kaiser,
I was off base on that one. “Worth its weight in gold” was meant to refer to the set of gold coins being valuable more so than being pricey/costly, and I was thinking in terms of something Richard Russell wrote, “figure your gold in number of ounces, not dollar value.”
Thank you kindly, Rich, for clearing that one up for me; much appreciated!
Kind of like Pawn Stars mantra , You can ask whatever price you want, BUT, what are people, paying? MY FEELNG if Au hits 4-5k, proof value will be Ltd. To intrinsic Au in that situation imho
This, John Q. Coinage, is perhaps ironically so pointing the way to the end of coin collecting as anything other than a plaything of the very rich. But then, isn’t that how it began in the first place? Back to the future, I suppose.
For LBMA Gold PM USD price, today makes three consecutive daily closes above the $3,000 breakthrough level. Here is this week’s LBMA Gold PM prices:
3/20/2025 = $3,038.15
3/19/2025 = $3,027.55
3/18/2025 = $3,025.80
3/17/2025 = $2,996.50
I see nobody around here pulled the trigger the other day for a 5 Kilo McCartney coin. It’s very odd to see the same exact hammer price($38.4K)for all 4 of the Silver coins!? There was no minimum bid set?, as last week one of them was at $8K in pre-auction bidding.
I predicted 700K for the unique Gold peice, but not too terribly off($600K).
https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/auctions/3-1GVQEO/march-2025-historic-presentation-edition-gold-and-silver-5-kilogram-coins-honoring-paul-mccartney-from-the-royal-mint-lots-15001-15005
That’s really not too bad, considering the rarity and size. It would be a bargain for any hardcore McCartney/Beatles fan.
Honestly, REB and Rick, I thought the gold paperweight would go for even more. Shows how much I know and demonstrates why I am in some ways better off not to be able to dabble in such truly stratospheric financial affairs.
I actually liked the silver better on these but I’m not THAT much of a fan.
I can relate to that, REB. Just because gold is so much more expensive than silver doesn’t mean that a gold coin will always look better than a silver one.
AISC does NOT reflect the entire picture of the cost to mine gold. Miners are NOT making $1800 per ounce of gold they produce
Rich,
Per your special request, Hawkwind in the house. 11 years later – R.I.P. Lem.
Commercial free on a beautiful Spring Sunday night in Northern California.
Great version of this song, one I hadn’t heard prior to this.
Cheers E 1, you’re the best!
Copy That.
Today’s News (3/24/2025)
“Bank of America (NYSE:BAC) nailed it when they predicted gold would hit $3,000 per ounce just last year. They referred to the asset as the “ultimate perceived safe haven,” and it’s hard to make a case against that. Looking to the year ahead, Citigroup (NYSE:C) foresees $3,200 per ounce as possible within the next three months, representing a swift gain of more than 8% from current levels.”
“They referred to the asset as the ‘ultimate perceived safe haven’”
Zero argument from me on this point. It IS hard to make a case against that (unless, of course, the new safe haven is crypto).
An EMP will never be able to wipe out the physical gold in my storage location. Physical possession is the ULTIMATE insurance
True that.
True that Dave, ETFs, storage held gold, shares of Au…Pigs in pokes. Take possession, hold and hide, you can bury $50k in gold muey facil. 16 AGEs…..hmmm. Next to the .4o I bury for backup
If gold is supposed to be the currency of last resort in case of dire emergencies, doesn’t it make sense to store it where you can get to it in order to be able to access it easily and promptly when you really need it?
How exactly does one access crypto if the power is out and/or the internet is down?
The US Mint raised the price on gold today March 26th does that surprise you any?
Mike Petraitis,
I would have been far more surprised if the Mint hadn’t raised its gold product prices.
At this rate the Mint’s pricing grid for gold will require a hefty increase in Au products every time the Mint’s guidelines allow it. Hold onto your hats…or wallets!