Whitman® announces the recent release of the fifth edition of 100 Greatest United States Modern Coins by award-winning authors Scott Schechter and Jeff Garrett. This updated edition brings a "Modern Makeover" to the beloved series, offering an expanded and refreshed exploration of the most significant modern coins minted in the United States from 1964 to the present day.
With captivating full-color photographs, insightful narratives, and expert analysis, 100 Greatest U.S. Modern Coins continues to be a definitive resource for numismatists of all levels. From humble Lincoln cents to great rarities to costly platinum bullion issues, the new edition demonstrates why the modern era is the most dynamic in all of numismatics, incorporating recent trends, updated values, and the latest additions to the U.S. Mint’s innovative coinage.
"Our goal with the fifth edition was to deliver a fresh perspective while maintaining the integrity of what makes this book a collector’s favorite," said co-author Scott Schechter. "It reflects the evolution of the market, such as new directions on the part of the United States Mint, volatility among commemoratives, and the waxing and waning popularity of various error coins.
This edition features iconic modern coins such as the 1975 No S Roosevelt Dime Proof (No. 1), the 1969-S, the 1976 No S Bicentennial Eisenhower Dollar Proof (No. 3), the 1964 Special Mint Set (No. 6), the 2020 $50 Gold American Eagle V75 Privy Mark Proof (No. 17), the American Silver Eagle series, and the groundbreaking innovations of the U.S. Mint’s 21st-century commemoratives.
Every coin is ranked and discussed in detail, with historical context, scholarship, and analysis provided by Schechter and Garrett, and for the first time updated market values using industry standard Greysheet®-based pricing and Greysheet Catalog Identification (GSIDSM) numbers that identify and link a coin across the entire family of Whitman Brands products.
Rigorous research and careful voting have led to widespread changes in the rankings over the fourth edition, with many new and some surprising additions. Fewer than one-fourth of all coins held their rank. Ten items are all-new, nine from the previous list dropped off, and two former entries were merged. Sixty-seven items changed rank, most of them by at least two places, but seven moved by ten or more places. Exciting Mint programs are represented among the new list items, along with fresh error-coin discoveries and two commemoratives that hold the record for the lowest mintage for any commemorative coin of their denomination and format.
Top 10 List
- 1975, No S, Roosevelt Dime, Proof
- 1969-S, Doubled Die Obverse, Lincoln Cent
- 1976, No S, Bicentennial Eisenhower Dollar, Proof
- 2000 Sacagawea Dollar / Washington Quarter Mule
- 1995-W $1 American Silver Eagle, Proof
- 1964 Special Mint Set
- 2009 (MMIX) Ultra High Relief Double Eagle
- 1968, No S, Roosevelt Dime, Proof
- 2007-W American Platinum Eagle, Proof, "Frosted FREEDOM" Variety
- 1990, No S, Lincoln Cent, Proof
The new edition is crisply rounded out by an all-new introductory material, including a Foreword by David Ryder, the 34th and 39th Director of the U.S. Mint; Publisher’s Preface by John Feigenbaum, CEO and President of Whitman Brands; and Modern-Coin Grading Essentials by Mark Salzberg, Co-Founder and former Chairman and CEO of Certified Collectibles Group.
"This edition captures the artistry, ingenuity, and cultural significance of modern U.S. coinage," added Feigenbaum. "Whether you’re a seasoned collector or new to the hobby, 100 Greatest U.S. Modern Coins is an essential addition to your library. Schechter and Garrett have truly outdone themselves."
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This reimagined edition of 100 Greatest U.S. Modern Coins is not just a price guide or a fancy picture book. It’s a work of art that takes the reader to a hundred different points in recent American history and a fascinating introduction to the hobby of collecting U.S. coins.
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Coming Soon
100 Greatest World Paper Currency, 1st Edition (Summer 2025)
100 Greatest United States Paper Currency, 2nd Edition (Fall 2025)
About the Authors
Scott Schechter is a leading authority on modern coin grading and authentication, serving as a senior executive at Numismatic Guaranty Company (NGC). Jeff Garrett, President of Mid-American Rare Coin Galleries, Inc. and senior editor of the Red Book (A Guide Book of United States Coins), is a renowned coin dealer, author, and expert with decades of experience in the numismatic industry.
Specifications
Title: 100 Greatest U.S. Modern Coins
Authors: Scott Schechter, Jeff Garrett
ISBN: 9780794851576
Binding: Hardcover
Dimensions: 10 x 12 inches
Pages: 140+
Retail: $39.95 U.S
ISBN: 9780794851422
Binding: Softcover
Dimensions: 6 x 9 inches
Pages: 250+
Retail: $24.95 U.S
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My Favorite Book.
I’m in. The 4th edition sure is nice.
If released just a month or two sooner it might have spurred strong holiday sales, and surely would’ve been on “Dad’s list”.
I might need to revisit my 15 or so $25-1C boxes completely filled with unsearched coppers, no zinc. The only Cents I pulled were Wheats!
The 1969-S 1C has an interesting history that I did not know about.
Bottom of page article by Jamie Hernandez ⇊
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1969-s-1c-doubled-die-obverse-rd/2923
Since I save all my S cents as well as Wheaties I come across, I’ll have to check my coins out again. I’m #5 with the 1995-W ASE Proof. I told people to get the set but the response was it was too expensive. I told them it would be more than worth it, they should make the investment. Many angry people when they saw the results for the ASE alone. I can tell people but I can’t make them. Like my 230th Anniversary FH Silver Medal. It’s doubled in price from the Mint’s selling price. I’ve learned the hard… Read more »
Antonio,
Congratulations on your 1995-W ASE Proof purchase back then!
Same with your FH Silver Medal, super nice classic design.
Many coins were considered expensive years ago, and today they would be a bargain!
I hope the same can be said later on, about the expensive coins of today.
Thank you. Planning is everything. We have to plan for the future when making coin purchases. I just got my first Rev. Dr. Pauli Murray AWQ today. A year after they were issued. I have two more to go. I’m still collecting coins out of my change. 58 years of coin collecting for me.
Thumbs up, Antonio.
I’m right there with you collecting coins from change (and bank rolls). I’ve got the Murray, Mink and Walker. Awaiting the Cruz and Zitkala-Sa.
When this series first began, Major D, I seemed to have no trouble whatsoever finding these coins in change. Now that the AWQ series is well on its way, I can’t locate any of them anywhere, and I have no clue as to what may have changed with regard to distribution.
Approaching 70 years of the same for me at this point in my life, Antonio, and I don’t regret a minute. Coins are a delight!
I wished I would have been more aware in 1995 although I might have been in the “too expensive” camp so maybe ignorance was bliss.
I seem to be getting Zitkala-Sa coming out of the woodworks recently. I’ve gotten 2 Walker. Everything else has been absent.
I recall looking at this set and contemplating buying it. At the time I was buying ASE’s yearly, but when they saddled it to the gold set, I did a pass. Who could anticipate how it would take off.
VA Bob,
This type of event is likely true for all of us coin lovers at one point or another in our collecting adventures. I “console” myself in these instances, and rather often many others of course also, with the sage words of Leonard Cohen to the effect that “There is a hole in everything; that’s where the light gets in.”
Antonio, I too save all the S cents and Wheats I come across. Another product that just doubled is the 2022 clad proof set– and I expect the same for the 2023 and 2024 clad proof sets after each hits 2 years.
2024 has been a low mintage compared to previous years. I decided to purchase both the mint and clad proof sets, as well as the silver AWQ proof set. I have no doubt that the mintage for 2025 will continue to fall.
Rick,
If you find one in Gem, it could pay for a one month vacation in the Bahamas. That one is so rare. Pray for Pay Dirt.
Cheers
Why they’re valued so highly, “so rare”. Not likely to be found unless found back in 1969. People think rare is easy to find. Rare is rare after all. I still haven’t come across a 1995 double die cent. No duh to me.
Antonio,
A number of MS-69 RD 1995 Double Dies showed up on the PCGS Pop Report about five years ago. If you were to buy a 95 DD today, I would recommend the MS-69 RD. When I purchased my MS-68 RD, there were just a few MS68s at that time. Now, the MS69s out number the MS68s. So, lost some value there. But it is still a highly desired coin among Lincoln Collectors.
Antonio, so true that “Rare is rare after all”. It took me going through over 30 boxes of 1c to find one 1999 (P) Wide AM. And I’ve yet to find one 2023 (P) Extra “V”.
What makes coin collecting fun. Finding that one special coin. Buying one is good but it’s not like finding one in your change or rolls.
Here is another widely overlooked Lincoln Memorial variety. The 1970-S Small Date. Being difficult to distinguish, most collectors have trouble separating it from the normal “Large Date.” The “Small Date” has a “High 7” and the “Large Date” has a “Low 7.” There are also a number of Small and Large Date varieties in Proof. Not a big-time money coin. But they do carry a premium as a known variety and they are getting harder to find. MS-66 or higher for investment grades. Also, go “RD” or go home. Be careful buying these raw. Especially in albums that claim to… Read more »
As well as the 1960 small date.
I’d sure like to know what the other 90 coins are, but I guess you need to buy the book for that.
Major D,
I am curious to see which coins get bumped. But I am expecting the 2023 (P) Extra V to be one of the adds. The 2024 FHG w/privy should be in there too, unless it missed the publishing deadline. The V75 quarters are a possible add too.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/205215266388
Well, we do know of a new entry in the new book, the coin on the cover. And it’s good to know that at least two of our regular poster’s here have one!
Off the top of my head, I know that the coin below is on the 4th edition’s list, and I’d imagine that it’s in this 5th edition.
I don’t remember its order of significance, but it we’ve talked about the coin before. My first Kennedy collectable coin ⇊, Thanks for the recommendation E1.
You’re welcome Rick. One of my all-time favorite Kennedys. In the 4th Edition, page 34, it comes in at Number 23. So, I don’t think it will be getting bumped anytime soon. Number 22, the 1996 W Dime – wait, I have one of those. I believe there are now registry sets for “The 100 Greatest Modern US Coins.” Definitely out of my reach.
Cheers
I have four of those. I should send them to have them graded and slabbed.
Burnished Ltd. Was pricier in he past, I got 10 sets still. Never checked for slabbing, I got to get back into that. I’ve been lucky last 2 walkers I got raw @ auction slabbed a PCGS 65….. above coin is gorgeous
10 sets at least half could be 70’s inside @$300 ea! The coin above was in an iffy older holder(SP70) with a small rim toning @ 4 o’clock. I had it reholdered and they put an oily fingerprint @ 3 o’clock fields and sent it back to me! I sent it back to restore–no more print, and no more toned rim. Now it is gorgeous, you’re right, and thanks!
Scott & Jeff,
5th Edition in the box and on its way. Bought it from your Whitman eBay store.
I am really looking forward to this book.
Cheers
E1,
Thanks for the background and the sharing of your errors, varieties, and W-Dime above.
I too just bought the 5th edition of the 100 greatest Moderns, especially after seeing the back cover. This book covers anyone who’s interested in moderns whether high dollar, to vary affordable. Many here have at least one of the coins inside the book.
You are correct about the W-Quarter and the 2023 Lincoln Extra “V” 1C. That 2021 Morgan is most likely the D-Mint as well, we’ll see about that one?
E1, The coins shown on the back cover will be in the book I’m sure. From the get go early on, you have been a champion for the ’23 Extra “V” and it’s significance within the variety sector of 1C coins. You, Cali, VinnieC, and others also engaged in thoughtful conversations on the V. I, as you know caught up later on, and obviously are a fan of them. You were mocked occasionally, and so was Mike Diamond and Dave Santiago for their contributions on the discovery. I hope those two guys will be mentioned on the Extra “V” page… Read more »
At least I got one of them, hmmm which kid$
2009 HR o course….
Yep, those 2009 are exceptional coins. They worked really hard on those UHR dies to get the look. The OGP and that booklet were top notch too.
I hope your house doesn’t smell like smoke!
JQC, Extremely Glad that You are OK!
Thanks I am EVACUATED. My car needs to be armored…. So stressful
As I reported before I had family on Maui that lost everything this is horrible
JQC,
Damn, that’s crushing. I will pray for you my brother. Just keep a clear head. Being alive is priceless and things can be replaced. The State and the Fed will soon be doling out hundreds of billions of dollars in relocation support. Look for the American Red Cross if you need help. You have a friend in the Bay Area if you need relocation assistance.
E1
Set up a “Go Fund Me” page as soon as you can.
https://www.gofundme.com/
The State is already providing financial assistance.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/01/10/los-angeles-wildfire-survivors-can-apply-for-federal-aid-today-new-website-launched-to-help-californians/
I hope this helps
If need be, find a nice luxury hotel or resort and ride it out.
E1 thanks, mahalo and so cool. Fire is 2m +/- from house was .82 last nite. My 96 year old mom had to evacuate as well lives in my childhood house still w my sister who moved back. Scary shit took a few days but it got emotional…. So far I’m w my sister in law, hope to have evac lifted but this fire is a MONSTER. I did bring a few friends …..including….$20 1873 61 Pcgs
E1 great spirit and vibe I hope to not need $$$$$$…. My neighbor has stayed and patrolling w 9mm ex Israeli Military. I wanted to pull more but wife said GO time did grab the Mossberg 590….
thanks for thoughts, coins can divert @ least
JQC, Sounds like security is not an issue. That’s good. But keep an eye out. Also, if clean air gets to be a problem in your home, I recommend getting several high-capacity air purifiers. That’s what we had to do here. That was after my trip to the ER for respiratory distress during our bout with the wildfires several years back. The effects of smoke-filled air on the body is progressive. After a week of it, you feel it. Use masks outdoors too. Protect your lungs. You have some real nice gold there JQC. Keep it close. Don’t go boating.… Read more »
Air is quite chunky. As long as the home stands I’m 0k…..but kinda I know many who already lost all. We were just looking @air filters ILL CHECK it out cap oop…. Good advice I wore a regular mask wife gave an N95. Thanks E1, we already get a lot of dust and before it got close I shined a flashlight beam into the sky and showed my son 5he Crap in the air so he wouldn’t go outside and run…..our line is holding but fire making a run east @ the 405! National Guard on duty now, good!!!
John Q., I can’t imagine to be in and near fires like Maui and LA with high winds. Just from doing some controlled timber burn piles I know when it gets really hot- everything burns. And embers can quickly get out of control and spread if you’re not on top of it (and this is with little wind). Glad you and family are safe.
Stay safe @JQC
Thanks all so far so good. Winds expected Monday-We’d night, we have 6 fire trucks on our street from all over CA, WA, AZ, Dallas! Keep u posted.
E1 on the 95DD I think it’s kind of the last dramatic Lincoln double die. I remember they did something then to prevent future double dies, what do 68& 69sgo for, or a good price!?
JQC,
If you can distinguish them with the naked eye – they are worth picking up. Wait, if you can distinguish them with your reading glasses…..Yup.
Cheers
We have to assume this truly remarkable and unprecedented Mint Error, the 2024 John Wilkes Booth “Sic Semper Tyrannis” Cent, was simply released too late in the year to be included in the latest version of the 100 Greatest U.S. Modern Coins list.
Your sense of humor is waning. Same thing with the a-hole who came up with this, as well as the Morons at the Onion passing it along to the gullables.
What a despicable and sick attempt at some sort of twisted satire.
Rick, I couldn’t agree more with you! Call me old fashioned and/or a Patriot, I do NOT care, it’s like our Flag, protect it with your Life! I love My Country, it’s NOT perfect AND it NEVER will be. We will ALWAYS strive to be better and perfect however! We need to STOP all this noncents that’s been happening the past 10 years! Some of its already being stopped and file13 ALL of the BS, we are being controlled by less than 1% of the Crazies! Yes, Crazies! I’ll let you ALL figure out what the BS is and who… Read more »
Indeed I support US always, still get teary eyed w a B1 flyover. Military family dad 3 years I S Pacific WW2, uncle Sun chaser WW2, other uncle MIA/KIA Korea Chosin Resovoir battle… 10,000 Army Natl Guard v, 50,000 Chinese and N Koreans, 1,000 Marines came to save them, I believe out of the 11,000 US troops only 700 or so were not killed or wounded. Always dislike ChickenHawks
John Q. Coinage, many here (including me) can tout military bona fides– but, why? Is it really necessary or a prerequisite in order to demonstrate “love of country” and patriotism? Does it make you more so?
What a heartless destructive nasty thing to say to a fellow American Citizen. It makes you sound like a dissident.
AKBob, enough already with the faux outrage and indignant over-the-top crocodile tears.
Always be aware that continents change, societies change, and families change. Finally, this blog has changed over the last couple of years too. Change is always difficult for everyone. Either you change with it, adapt, accept it for what it has become, or move on.
Actually, this blog, just like continents, societies and families for that matter, has changed back and forth, which makes sense since in no way has change ever given even a hint of being linear. Change, if anything, moves in a repetitive and possibly even circular direction, and what now happens to be the case will no longer be so at some future point. We are not just the changed, we are also the changers, and as to which impacts us more and which less and/or in what way is likely impossible to know.
“Your sense of humor is waning.” I don’t launch personal attacks nor do I tolerate them. Enough said.
Kaiser, I’ve been on this site long enough and can vouch to that. ‘Nuff Said.
Thanks Kaiser,
I hadn’t noticed that “Your sense of humor is waning.” was a personal attack on you. My apologies.
Let me humbly rephrase that for you.
“In my opinion, I believe that your sense of humor is waning, but I could be wrong”.
I hope that you feel better now.
Here it goes again, and all along we thought the rancorous days of Senza were a thing of the past. Very disappointing, to say the least.
Kaiser,
I know who that political hack is, Senza.
In what way did my apology above bring you to the conclusion that I’m behaving like dazed whoever Senza?
I think that you may have mistaken me with someone else with that passive-aggressive, sneaky personal attack.
But I could be wrong?
You persist in accusing me of the very behavior you have been engaging in since the beginning of your utterly pointless diatribe. Best you cease and desist with your fruitless tantrum and get past your petulant childishness. Grow up and leave me alone; I don’t allow this sort of senseless dreck into my world.
I’ve got to hand it to you Kaiser, your overly practiced, flagrant pretentiousness, and often comical use of the english language is quite impressive. Kudos! However, I’ll have to admit that if I were talking to you in person, it would be quite painful. Especially when trying to not laugh out loud.
I’ll place your request into advisement, and with open arms!
I you want to talk coins, give me a shout. I’ll be listening.
Rick, what pray tell don’t you understand about satire?
Major I get satire, I like satire. When I was a kid I read that stupid mag called MAD Magazine here & there, remember that one?
But when satire(arguably)crosses the line, and when it comes to Presidential assassinations, someone’s going respond on occasion, don’t you think? Tasteless satire can derail someone’s career real quick Pal. Just ask Sinéad O’Connor(Pope), or Kathy Griffin(Trump)
Let’s break down Kaisers proud, pithy, & funny photo above and the paragraph that came with it for clarity and context, shall we?
I’m not sure why Kaiser decided to edit his funny photo above to display the phony Booth 1C only, and not the entire photo made-up by a social media Moron(below). Maybe he’ll share that someday, but I prefer not, due to that Onion “Satire story” being so disturbing, satire or not.
Take another look, read it. Read the last sentence in that paragraph.
It makes me want to puke. Thanks alot for helping Kaiser convert a pleasant coin thread completely sideways, great job….
https://theonion.com/u-s-mint-introduces-new-controversial-john-wilkes-booth-pennies/
My limits have a way of being drawn far behind the line of scrimmage, but every now and then someone just can’t help but cross them. I must say that the rationale for insisting this multi-layered comical conceit is so much more disturbing than the dreadful fiction spread by the Orange Furor and his hirsute acolyte about immigrants allegedly eating cats and dogs is rather far beyond me. But then, so are many other of such equally bizarre fantasies; by all means, let the raving carry on.
Thanks for revealing your true self Kaiser, I suspected it all along.
As Joseph Welch, the Chief Counsel for the U.S. Army, said to the relentlessly belligerent Senator Joe McCarthy after having had to listen to the latter’s endless litany of false accusations, “Have you no decency, sir, at long last, have you no decency?”
“I don’t launch personal attacks nor do I tolerate them. Enough said.”
“the Orange Furor and his hirsute acolyte”
“Have you no decency, sir, at long last, have you no decency?”
Take a good look into the mirror, who do you see?…
That’s a question for the grudge-bearing aggressor to ask himself, so I suggest you take your advice and put it to better use.
I did read it- and its satire, Rick. Perhaps the article would have been made better if it included a part about Ventris auctioning off slabbed versions with special designer Trump labels, and with a signed coa? Yes, I recall Mad (and Cracked, too) and that it was funny. As for the last sentence, I recall that not too long ago there were quips here about a special Kennedy half where the obverse was missing part of the scalp– all without comments. I don’t like how you all are ganging up on Kaiser. He did nothing to deserve this kind… Read more »
Satire indeed, and I’ll repeat, very poorly executed. The photoshopped Lincoln Cent depicting his assassin on his own coin, or some mention of Kennedy’s missing scalp on his own coin is uncalled for and in extreme poor taste imo, here or anywhere. Deflect as you wish Major D. There was no “multi-layered comical conceit” anywhere near that satirical nonsense… I don’t have a problem with Kaiser revealing his Progressive Ideology now & then. I’m used to it now, so have at it. But when he chooses to pull out the all too familiar Nazi card, he’ll be called out. There… Read more »
Progressive ideology is not child molestation, nor is right-wing jingoism the same as burning at the stake, but when the former is judged to be offensive while the latter is portrayed as (some perverse version of) common sense then the deck is unquestionably stacked with those cards and to try to pretend otherwise is sheer and blatant nonsense. Lest you forget, you started this, so be man enough to accept the consequences.
Kaiser, If you take the time to read above, you will see that I did not judge your ideology as being offensive. I had, and will continue to accept you for who you are. You, on the other hand, seem to be conflicted when you constantly complain about the USM, inflation, condo fees, your ex-wife, and now your perceived portrayal of right-wing jingoism(of which I do not adhere). You appear to be lacking common sense right now. Lest we forget your new go-to Trump Nazi comment. Shame on you. You have chosen your path in life, and have stacked the… Read more »
Here Here!! Makes common Cents! You are SPOT ON too!! Thank you very much! I do NOT reply to insults and name calling, especially name calling! I’ve noticed over the years, people that can’t Win a conversation with FACTS, almost always pull the “name calling” card! I will NEVER try to change ones beliefs as I think it’s a lose, lose battle! I was called names above from someone that I wasn’t even having a conversation with and it was uncalled for but when you can’t Win the conversation, you resort to name calling!! For me, when that happens, I… Read more »
Maybe … hopefully … the Mint will play it straight with this year’s Liberty. It’s a packed gold slate with the three DC Comics coins in addition to the Eagles & Buffalo. I think it’s more likely that they play games with Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. However, if the Liberty design is compelling enough, it may be Flowing Hair, Round Two.
Oops, I forgot that Rick already posted a mock-up of this year’s Liberty in a previous story’s comment section. The sunflower and the swooping eagle don’t appear to allow much room for a privy mark. So, hopefully, there’s that. But the mintage and the big boy allowance … we shall see. I’d love it if the Mint sold this one according to demand like last year’s L&B.
Wow, Rick. Just, wow. And who appointed you the moral judge and jury of all Coin News posts? Going after Kaiser the way you are, personally attacking him, is beyond the pale.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for being who you are, Major D. As for the abominable behavior above, all I can say is consider the source. It’s not the first time nor will it be the last.
Rick, I suppose then that you never heard the phrase: “And except for that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?”. Or the refrain: “Too soon?” uttered by countless comedians after such speech?
Major D, I’ve already apologized for saying “Your sense of humor is waning.”, which was not a personal attack imo. But it wasn’t good enough. After I, being “personally attacked” thereafter with outright name calling, to the all too familiar insults via linguistic loopholes from Kaiser, there was a response in kind, nothing more. I’m not enjoying this, I find it sad to see someone’s true colors suddenly come out about what they think of me, or who I support. The reveal was enlightening, and it spoke volumes. If you want to lump me together with Senza, as Kaiser did,… Read more »
Rick,
Stay the course.
Thanks E1,
I really just want to enjoy the Coin Book, and that’s exactly what I’ll do real soon, regardless of the unfortunate and purposeful hijacking that occurred on this thread recently.
If you’d like some interesting alternative reading material in addition to your coin book, look no further than a couple of fellows that come to mind.
One of the Gentlemen is named Wilhelm Liebknecht.
The other is named Karl Marx. Interesting fellows they are!
They are coin collectors?
Yes.
“regardless of the unfortunate and purposeful hijacking that
occurred on this thread recently.”
So now you finally regret doing that. Better late than never.
Yikes!!!
Do you really not get jokes or are you pulling our collective legs?
Kaiser, Defiantly in bad taste. However, thank you very much for bringing this to our attention. The coin is an obvious counterfeit and counterfeiting is a felony enforced by the Secret Service. The coin displays “The United States of America” and “One Cent.” If its mechanical specifications (dimensions, material, and finish) are near identical to the genuine Shield Cent, then the counterfeiter’s intention was to circulate the coin. Maybe not for its worth, but for its message. What group would do something like that? Additionally, the originators left behind plenty of manufacturing DNA and traceability should be easy in the… Read more »
It’s not a real coin– never was.
Sarcasm noun the use of irony to mock or convey contempt If anything, I took this as a jab at (or indictment of) the US Mint– which mostly everyone here has expressed some contempt for. Let’s face it, the US Mint is known for its crass money grabs (money from collectors, that is) and promotions targeting collectors FOMO. If there’s a buck to made from it, yes, the Mint will make it. As for this particular “story”– It comes from The Onion, which is a satirical “news” organization. There’s nothing moronic about it, except for those who don’t get the… Read more »
Now that I have the full picture and clarity of the matter. I can say that it had an Orson Wells “War of the Worlds” effect on me. I thought it was real and fell for it. As in the past, we have always strived to post real and true information here. We must always remember that we are independent publishers when we post and we have a moral obligation to uphold the truth, the facts, and try not to deceive anyone. So, think before you post and cite your sources. It doesn’t take much to lose your face in… Read more »
Time for a walk-about. Back to air mail stamps.
Later
Cali,
You’re up!
In reflection, The assignation of President Lincoln is nothing to mock. I don’t see any levity in that either. As a thirteen-year-old boy, I visited the Ford Theater in Washington DC with my family. I saw the balcony suite and chair that Lincoln sat in when he was shot. I even saw the room and bed across the street where he died. I have also stood at the foot of the Lincoln Memorial. I can not even imagine the tremendous sense of loss and tragedy this nation suffered upon his passing. It must have been an awful time. But, it… Read more »
Yes, E 1, as you said, we should always let history be a reminder of the past…
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905.
Yes, but unfortunately…
“It’s deja vu all over again.”
-Yogi Berra
Major D,
As they said on the X Files, “The truth is out there.”
Rich,
Yes, an applicable quote. Thank you for citing your source.
A clean C3a can start the reboot
JQC,
How about C1 thru C16. MNH Og.
I hope all is well.
E 1
Exactly, Major D, and many thanks for standing up for our basic principles here by being the voice of reason. As it was clearly obvious to you I had no further intent or aim with my injection of that deadpan humor item from the Onion other than to try to provide a small touch of levity in the midst of an unusually severe winter season, one made even more depressing and cumulatively so by the effects of the horrific California fires, the endless misery of the wars in Ukraine and Israel, the economic wear and tear of unremitting inflation and… Read more »
Kaiser, you did nothing to justify the in disproportionate responses and the personal attacks from Rick. I personally like The Onion, which has to go to greater and greater extremes to parody anything these days due to the reality of things going so far off the rails. For kicks, try comparing some select The Onion headlines to real life news headlines sometime- and ask people you know if they can tell which is which.
Thanks again, Major D, for your understanding and the much appreciated vote of confidence. I have no intention of letting anything about that incident get to me because I know full well that people don’t react in such an explosive manner to what was virtually nothing, that is, barring the existence of previous circumstances. Without there having been a combination of a malignant animosity and and a desperate fear having long now grown deep within them, such a response would never have had the occasion to occur.
Kaiser, Well, out of your 10,000+ posts, this one bit back. Your ratio is actually pretty good. My father once told me, “Never talk race, religion, or politics in the workplace.” He also told me to “Never offend the Corporate Culture.” Unfortunately, the booth penny did that. Personally, I have always enjoyed you because I know I can joke around with you. I know you did not try to offend anyone though. But, you just stepped on your dik. I’ve done it and everyone here has done it. However, your timing could not have been worse. A lot of people… Read more »
E 1, The funny thing is that out of just about everything that I’ve ever posted on here over the countless years I’ve enjoyed this site the particular entry in question was by far one of the last I would have ever had even the slightest expectation of being the one to raise any kind of ruckus. After all, “Never talk race, religion, or politics in the workplace.”, the advice your father gave you, is of course exceedingly sound, which is naturally why I do my best to fastidiously avoid those subjects, especially since I remember all too well how… Read more »
I completely agree here. Plus, I’m not even certain you broke the sacred “Thou Shalt Never Offend the Corporate Culture” commandment.
Post on, Kaiser. I may not always agree with you, but I appreciate your sharp, insightful perspectives. Spice of life, my friend.
What can I say, Reb, and likewise regarding the ongoing mutual exchange of ideas; very enjoyable and much appreciated!
By the way, I find it ironically humorous that our resident right-wing contingent here, which has had quite the blast mocking and denigrating both the Obama and the Biden administrations to no end, is now throwing hysterical fits at the merest intimation of possible flaws and mis-directions as planned or about to be perpetrated under the second regime of the first convicted felon, not to mention most notorious prevaricator, in American presidential history.
now, now don’t upset the snowflakes
Here, here!
E 1, you should heed your own advice. And I say screw the Corporate Culture: that is what has made a mess of our country.
It was an analogy that I was hoping that a thinking person could actually apply to our community here. But foresight is obviously not something to be expected as of late.
Might we just return to coin talk?
P L E A S E !
Agreed.
DaveSWFL, REB et al,
Kaiser isn’t the first (and won’t be the last) person here to post non-coin related text and pics. Many have (and will). The irony here I’d argue is that this latest “blow-up” was actually started by coin-talk, albeit of the sarcastic variety. What’s over-the-top is the extraordinary faux-outrage that has turned into personal attack.
Yep. This was at least a picture of a fake coin. I’ve seen plenty of pics of scantily-clad models and actresses over the years without a peep from the peanut gallery. Oh well, I guess a joke about a 160-year-old event is just too soon.
REB,
Peanut galleries on the whole don’t as a rule end up playing host to such surprisingly aggressive and vociferous agendas nor do they typically react with such seemingly boundless hysteria to what was virtually nothing. Apparently and most unfortunately so, ours does and did. C’est la vie, my friend.
Major D,
Thank you so very much for being willing and able to provide the exceedingly pertinent, comprehensive and above all sensible explanation for the particularly troublesome and as such quarrelsome matter at hand. Your extremely thorough and dead-on accurate analysis of all of the facts, context, background, reaction and response relating to what was from the beginning a completely unnecessary kerfuffle is in fact a godsend to whatever hope we may still maintain for the preservation of at least a semblance of sanity on this site.
Getting back to something I think we all can be on the same side about: the US Mint.
In looking at the AI $ Rolls and Bags, here are six instances of the Mint exceeding its product limits, based on Jan 5 cumulative sales:
22GRB VT P-Roll, PL=7,020 ::: Sales=7,023
23GRA OH P-Roll, PL=8,000 ::: Sales=8,016
23GRC IN P-Roll, PL=8,000 ::: Sales=8,022
23GBC IN P-Bag, PL=3,000 ::: Sales=3,009
23GBG IN D-Bag, PL=2,790 ::: Sales=2,795
24GRF AL D-Roll, PL=7,350 ::: Sales=7,443
The Mint is now in the habit of selectively erasing product information records from the past Product Schedules so it is not possible to check on such things for the 2021 AI $ Rolls and Bags– they’re no longer part of the 2021 Schedule.
Rounding errors? <wink, wink>
Or finger slipping onto the wrong key events. 😉
Perhaps, Major D, we’ve completely misunderstood this concept of “product limits” all along. It could be that in the Mint’s particular vernacular “limits” as such apply only to us customers and not at all to the authorities at said august institution.
Kaiser, I think that collectors (experts included) have erroneously assumed that you can derive mintage amounts by what the Mint posts in its sales reports. The Mint states that coins “sold directly by the United States Mint are never released to the Federal Reserve Bank. These coins: Are typically offered by the Mint in rolls, bags or boxes, which do not include Certificates of Authenticity.” Source: US Mint web site. In the case of uncirculated AI$ (P&D), the “mintage” (as reported on expert web sites) has equaled the quantities as reported on the US Mint’s last sales report for rolls… Read more »
For better or worse, I rely on the quantity printed in the Red Book. Goes for the coin value as well, although I’m informed that the Grey Sheet is the better value source.
Smart man,
Those two sources for valuation & mintage are reliable, however the price points on the coins within them can, and do become volatile during hot, and cold market swings. The collectors & dealers that are serious buyers use real, up to date auction results from the leading auction firms including, but not limited to DL, SBG, GC, Heritage, and yes, eBay for pricing. They, unlike the behind-the-desk-accountants, know the exact differences between…
1) Mintage limit
2) Product limit
3) Authorized mintage
4) Final Audited mintage
Do you consider the PCGS Coin Price Guide link at the top of the page to be a good source? I noticed it had three-month to 10-year price swing numbers. Is the information there restricted to PCGS-graded coins or does it include other coins? Should auction prices for each house be consulted or is there a one-stop source that combines all the info?
Just asking for a friend … nah … I’m asking for me.
Foxman69 commented two days ago in the January 8th US Mint Sales report by Mike Unser, “Sales figures for 2024 W uncirculated shown as approx 93K….doesn’t look right…a recent sales report showed around 160+K….I know that coin is showing potential for having the lowest production of any uncs.” Indeed Foxman69, as I pointed out a few weeks ago, the sales figures for the 2024-W Uncirculated ASE (as well as the 2023-W Uncirculated ASE) reported here on Coin News does not include the Bulk 40 (40 coin) sales which are listed in the US Mint cumulative sales figures. Here is the… Read more »
I suspect sales will continue to fall until dealers and collectors realize the resale potential, causing purchases to rise to previous numbers. I still regret not buying the 1994-S ASE proof but maybe as the years pass, it’ll be a moot point.
It wasn’t 1994-S, it was 1994-P. At that time, the proofs were minted in Philadelphia.
Antonio,
I have had more than a few instances and/or occasions to wonder whether the regret at not having done something is less or more impactful than having done something that one regrets.
True.
Thanks, Rich. I reported the same, but my post was tagged as spam and deleted.
It’s my experience that these decision-making algorithms can be temperamental.
I’m a bit disappointed. I thought the criteria would have been the coin’s design, not rarity or error. A missing mint mark on an otherwise tired design, might be valuable, but IMO doesn’t make it a great coin.
I tend to agree with you. Can anyone share numbers 11 through 100? It looks like the only one I own is #5. I doubt I have #3 or #9. I might have to hit the vault again. Were all of the 2007 frosted variety sold as singles or did any appear in the four-coin set?
After looking at the article again, it appears I also own #17 as well.
I have a 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle, while it is a beautiful coin, it is basically a retread design (minus the UHR and gold content). That’s the only one I have from this top 10 list.
If I have the right coin, I puzzled over buying that one but ultimately declined. I collect proofs. The 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle was listed as a “business strike”. It has since been designated as “proof-like”. There are times when I’m tempted. Thanks for sharing, VA Bob.
VA Bob,
I am so glad you brought that subject up. Why is it that mistakes are considered worthy of celebration when it comes to articles like stamps and coins but are seen the opposite way when it comes to things like cars, boats or airplanes, for example?
You won’t die from a coin minting mistake – you might die from an auto, airplane, or boat manufacturer’s error! Anyone remember the Pinto?
DaveSWFL,
Good point, but to be clear(er) I didn’t mean it to seem as if I was specifically referring to mistakes or oversights in manufacturing but rather those of appearance, as in coming with the wrong color or other accoutrements.
A white Model T back in the day would have garnered quite the stir (and price premium, too!)
That would be at the top of my want list, especially so in the hot summer weather. Nothing like a white car to keep one cool.
Ah the Ford Pinto hatchback with the gas tank!
Remember it well sir!!
Ralph Nader and his recalls kept my mother in law safe in hers………
Opportunities lost I suppose…. (sij)
MIL not your favorite person, Tony?
Interestingly, it was Lee Iacocca who ushered in the Ford Pinto. An expert in the automotive industry. If he wrote a book at the time, I’m sure it would have made his List of 100 Best.
Yes, it caught on fire. 😀
Well, ancient coins once were made of lead….
Sir Kaiser, I like your new gravatar, Garbage Pail Kid, Adam Bomb, the most expensive Garbage Pail Kids card from the first GPK series released by Topps in 1985. My old favorite is Losing Faith.
Thank you, Good Sir Rich, “Losing Faith” is indeed a true classic. In fact, it reminds me of the fate of Slim Pickens as the bomber pilot in Dr. Strangelove who straddled the nuclear weapon and rode it all the way down onto Moscow. In that regard “Adam Bomb” just might be considered the outcome of or sequel to “Losing Faith” in that it in effect visualizes the result.
And the king of them all, y’all:
Slim Pickens in Blazing Saddles is my all time favorite. Dag nabbit! I think you’ve had enough beans already!
lol
Kaiser, If you have a mint state 1960 Edsel Villager, you’re looking at around $28K. Not too bad for a ‘mistake’, but keeping with inflation on the original selling price. Wish we could say the same for most of the US Mint’s current offerings.
I remember a neighbor when I was a kid who had two Edsels parked in his backyard. I’ve often wondered what happened to those two beauties.
I’m more of a guy searching for that 1969 Ford LTD Country Squire station wagon. I put many a mile on that boat. I miss it, hideaway headlights and all.
VA Bob, as with all “Top” or “Greatest” Lists of this sort it’s all subjective- and the inclusion and numbered ranking is all based on the authors’ opinion.
“it’s all subjective- and the inclusion and numbered ranking is all based on the authors’ opinion.” Well, the opinions and advise of Scott Schechter and Jeff Garret are probably the most respected in the industry. While in high school, Schechter worked as a numismatist at the Smithsonian and Garret was the President of the ANA. The criteria for the 100 Greatest Moderns is based upon rarity starting in 1964 and it is only beauty that is subjective. Personally, I would much rather hang out with Schechter and Garret than hang out here with you and Kaiser. With Schechter and Garret,… Read more »
“Personally, I would much rather hang out with Schechter and Garret than hang out here with you and Kaiser.”
“I’m sure Rick would feel the same.”
“But I would much rather stick with Schechter and Garret and Rick.”
I think we get the idea, but feel free to say it a few more times to be sure.
That would be a waste of time.
Too late.
E 1, that’s pretty harsh. Why do you take what I wrote as a personal attack? Yes, I get that they’re experts but there are lots and lots of experts. And not all experts agree 100% all the time- whether its sports, movies, music, the economy, coins or anything else. What is so blasphemous about saying that? Do you agree with every Heisman pick, academy award winner, and Top 100 list that you see on YouTube as determined by the experts? As for hanging out, no thanks I wouldn’t want that.
I’ll break bread with you, Major D … as long as you bring the interesting mintage charts and graphs. I LOVE those things! It’s like having the latest edition of the Red Book at your fingertips – with commentary, no less.
Thanks, REB!
REB,
Count me in too. I’ve always appreciated how both you and Major D are able and willing to put forth facts and opinions minus any of the unnecessary baggage of prejudice and spite.
Following up on the “Tied to a Whipping Post” theme with regards to the US Mint: If costs rise, you raise prices- I get that. What I don’t get is raising prices for all past products that are still in inventory by the same amount as the upcoming product. For instance, the direct costs to make and stockpile the 2024 uncirculated set were already absorbed and reflected in the release price of that product. So, it does not follow that you have to recoup the exact same higher costs for the 2024 and 2025 sets. We’re not talking about precious… Read more »
collectors are paying the price of the three cent penny for the general public.
And for the “creative” art of the gimmics
why is the mint the only governmental agency which is required to completely self fund its activities?
“why is the mint the only governmental agency which is required to completely self fund its activities?”
Is this the case with the Post Office as well?
Goodness no. The USPS is the recipient of millions upon millions of dollars of assistance from the government each year in order to stay in operation.
DaveSWFL,
Perhaps it might be wiser after all to do away with the cent rather than try to make it cheaper. After all, zero cents is less expensive than anything.
Canada did this very successfully!
I’ve been lobbying for the elimination of the cent and nickel from the old days of the Mint News Blog.
Realistically we could do away with all decimal coinage and eliminate BPE and just mint dollar, five dollar, ten dollar twenty-five dollar, and fifty dollar coins. Just change the word cent to dollar! And mint the top two in silver. Two hundred years of inflation have made our current coinage basically worthless!
people throw away pennys which cost three times their face value – how silly.
I could live with coinage no lower than the quarter. To round a penny to a quarter is one thing but rounding it to a dollar is another. Who knows, culling the smallest denominations might give the half-dollar new life!
DaveSWFL,
To some extent, perhaps even a large one, that is precisely what the Japanese with the Yen and the South Koreans in the case of the Won have already done. Considering they are currently operating two of the most successful economies on the face of the planet your “single denomination currency” proposal may in fact be a workable solution.
Major D,
Contrary even to the universal laws of gravity, at the US MInt the rule that “What goes up must come down” is very rarely if in fact ever true.
The United States Mint’s 2024 Annual Report is Out…
Numismatic pricing will be Increasing…. SIGNIFICANTLY….
Did they suggest any numbers/percentages?
The Mint’s Annual reports are not forward looking…
Numismatic Only…
Gold, Platinum & Palladium Coin Products Net Income = $26.2M
Silver Coin Products Net Income = $50.6M
Annual Core Sets Net LOSS = $24.1M
Quarter Products Net LOSS = $5.1M
Presidential & First Spouse Medals Net Income = $.1M
Commemorative Net Income = $2.4M
Miscellaneous Net LOSS = $12.2M
American Innovation Net LOSS = $4.3M
Total Net Income = $33.6M
Interesting that the core products (annual sets, quarters, and innovation dollars) are loss leaders. These are also the relatively cheap items that MIGHT bring in new collectors. Commemorative net income is terrible. And what the heck is “Miscellaneous Net LOSS”? Negative $12.2M? Is this theft? Lost gold? Trips to Vegas and/or Atlantic City? Looks like I’ve done my part to keep the Mint in the $33.6M black. Gold – check. Platinum – check. Palladium – check. Silver – check. Commems – check. Depending on whether the Silver Proof Set is silver or an annual Set – partial check. You’re Welcome,… Read more »
In cost accounting you are required to break out accounting lines that hit certain criteria. The Miscellaneous items (singularly) do Not hit the criteria to break out their sales individually so they are lumped together. Kennedy coins are just an example of coins that go in the Miscellaneous category…
Thanks for the explanation.
Is +$33.6M good or bad? I assume they are covering their costs which is what I’ve been told they’re supposed to do.
Before Ryder $33.6M would be considered Outstanding.
Since Ryder left…Not so good. Before Ryder the Mint was losing money on numismatic coins ($21.2M Loss in FY18).
Total Net Income (Loss) for the past 7 fiscal years for the Numismatic side:
FY2024 = $33.6M
FY2023 = $69.9M
FY2022 = $118.5M
FY2021 = $92.6M
FY2020 = $3.0M
FY2019 = ($6.9M)
FY2018 = (21.2M)
Interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing.
Do you have any thoughts about the bell curve illustrated by these numbers? From 21/22 to 24, it looks like a sinking ship. From 2018 to 2024, it’s not too bad.
Pricing will have to be Increased. Clad coins were Increased to start CY25. Coins under $200 have shown to be inelastic demand . Gold coins, other than low mintage wonders, have shown to be elastic demand. The Mint has shown under Ryder that price Increases work for specific targeted coins and medals…
“Trips to Vegas and/or Atlantic City?”
Not entirely REB…
“Selling, general, and administrative (SG&A) expenses increased 16.5 percent from last year”…
Everyone got a raise, and Ms Gibson was successful with her agenda last year.
In other words, her “personal guiding principles” have been met.
Her new acronym for the Mint agenda?
FTA(Fairness, Trust, and Accountability). Ok.
Sounds fine to me honestly. I guess her former principled acronym had gotten stale, even for her…
(source material, USM Report pg 2, 9)
Rick
Bullion Only…
American Eagle Gold Net Income = $28.3M
Buffalo Gold Net Income = $10.8M
American Eagle Silver Net Income = $1.8M
Total Net Income = $40.9M
Core sets a loss is a joke. Allocation of expenses is not realistic – all the coinage below the half are all set up for circulation coinage, so cost should be minimal to produce uncirculated and proof sets , especially considering prices charged. There’s gotta be humongous waste there (no surprise).
Huzzah for the gold bugs!
“American Eagle Silver Net Income = $1.8M”
Fuzzy Math at its very finest….
Cag,
Welcome back – you’ve been missed by many of us. Hope to hear from you more frequently.