Nice Gang (www.NiceGang.com), a new mobile gaming studio, follows DC Comics as the second company to collaborate with the United States Mint (www.USMint.gov) to promote special, limited-edition coins. The innovative collaboration between Nice Gang and the U.S. Mint will reach a new generation of collectors.
Eighth Era, the first mobile video game title from Nice Gang, will provide players early access to unique silver bullion coins with a first-of-its-kind privy mark. According to the company, this is revolutionizing the gaming industry as the first and only game studio to reward players with physical collectibles.
Founded by a team of entertainment, gaming, and collectibles veterans, including Mark Salzberg, founder of Certified Collectibles Group and Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (www.NGCcoin.com), Nice Gang has a deep dedication to numismatics and has developed a game that will have appeal to younger collectors.
"The extraordinary game’s major characters, levels of play, and rewards are all inspired by historical coins, such as an ancient Greek Athenian Owl tetradrachm, the 1839 British £5 Una and the Lion gold coin, an Indian Head/Buffalo nickel, and an early 20th century Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle," explained Salzberg.
"The partnership with Nice Gang furthers the Mint’s commitment to nurturing the next generation of collectors. Like our collaboration with DC Comics, this initiative allows us to connect authentically with a new and younger demographic. This is a truly transformative opportunity for the Mint," said Mint Director Ventris Gibson.
Nice Gang’s flagship title, Eighth Era, is a free-to-play mobile game in which players have chances to win physical coins in a variety of metals and finishes, featuring over 90 unique characters. And now, with the landmark United States Mint collaboration, players will additionally gain unprecedented early access to limited-edition American Silver Eagles with a special star privy mark.
There are already plans for a second offering of Silver Eagles featuring an eagle-in-flight privy mark for Eighth Era players.
"This is a total paradigm shift in the gaming industry," said Nice Gang Chairman Salzberg. "And with the collectibles market size hitting $426B and mobile games grossing $108B in 2023, this is a tremendous opportunity to activate a new generation of collectors. It doesn’t hurt that gamers are also huge collectors."
Eighth Era’s market testing suggests this is only the beginning. The game’s alpha and beta tests, involving thousands of players, resulted in "emphatically positive" responses from the players, with the rewards system appearing to be a strong differentiating factor for fans. Recently at collectibles influencer Gary Vaynerchuk’s festival, VeeCon, Salzberg contributed a prototype reward coin that sold at auction for $350.
Eighth Era’s style and character designs are overseen by Nice Gang’s Chief Creative Officer and Co-Founder, Vincent Nguyen, whose decades-long career spanned some of Hollywood’s biggest animated intellectual property, including "Ice Age," "Rio," and "Peanuts" before being recruited to gaming powerhouse Activision/King as a senior artistic director. Nice Gang is led by Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder, Jason Wasserman, a 20-year executive at 20th Century Fox and The Walt Disney Studios.
Eighth Era is expected to be released on mobile app stores worldwide in October 2024. Watch the trailer, learn more about the game, and sign up for notifications for the unique United States Mint offerings at www.NiceGang.com.
Gamer Coin Flippers now.
Great.
Gamers won’t want them, but the ASE dedicated and Registry guys will.
The NGC label says “One of first 50,000 issued”… So how many Star Privy ASE’s in total? My guess is several hundred thousand, maybe a million?
I’m out!
Rick,
I’ve long been led to believe that gamers tend to do nothing but spend all of each and every day staring intently at their screens. I am therefore given to wonder if they would even give a hoot about these coins much less have any desire to spend all of the time and effort that it might just require to get the best deal out of flipping them.
If the rumors are true (and it was regarding the coin itself) 500k – 700k limit
Tony@GA,
Purely out of curiosity, where are these possibly true or otherwise rumors originating?
On second thought, why does it even matter. A rumor is a rumor, that’s all.
Rick, Others, I’m seeing the GFH (Gold Flowing Hair) on the Bay in a Pre Sale in an auction with the starting bid of $4799.99. That’s a bit high in my opinion. I’ll buy from the Mint and send it in for grading before I’d pay that. That same Seller had them on a “Buy It Now” last night at $6999.99 but he’s since ended those listings. Seems like his prices are all over the place. There’s some greedy folks out there. I don’t mind a “fair” profit or mark up but being downright greedy is something I can’t abide!… Read more »
AKBob,
I’m for free market capitalism all the way, but I do believe there is a gap between that tried and true concept and greed. Contrary to what Gordon Gecko said, greed is not good.
Kaiser,
C’mon now, greed is what drives capitalism. When I was in business I was always greedy for more customers, more profits, and more happy employees. Now if you’re talking excessive greed, like what’s taken over professional sports (or the mint), that is another thing entirely.
Craig,
It’s obvious we’re just defining the word greed differently. To me your explanation, description and/or definition of what greed means to you is what I would instead call ambition, and ambition is as fine a motivation for doing well in business as there ever was. As a consequence of my alternative view of what greed entails “excessive greed” is a redundant expression since in my world’s definition of greed all greed is excessive.
Craig you are confused, greed does not drive capitalism. In order to be a successful capitalist, your aim must be to please your customers with better products, better services, and lower prices. Capitalists who get greedy and raise prices too much lose their customers to more savvy capitalists.
Mark In Florida,
Your comment gave me cause to give some added thought to this issue. I did manage to come up with at least one politico-economic system that does employ the concept of greed as and at the very core of its operational philosopy, the dictatorial kleptocracy. This type of regime is in place in Russia, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates and I would guess likely in some other equally larcenous nations around the globe as well.
Mark in Florida, on the prior article, you mentioned about gold being $300 and there were those saying it would go to $1,000. Crazy talk back then. Just the other day I found a flyer from the mint announcing the sale of gold eagle proofs. It was the first year 1986. I believe gold that year was around $300 or so, and the 1oz proof was $550. A pretty steep premium back then.
Au was around $360 to close to $400 per oz in ’86. I don’t think that’s a bad premium to pay for the new issues. I loved buying Au in the late 80’s and 90’s from the mint and have been a very happy camper with my sets. I bought several 4 coin proof sets for $999.00 and they are now what…$6535.00!
Craig and East Coast Guru,
Just out of curiosity, would it ever make any sense to figure in the equivalent “adjusted for inflation” value into any comparison made with past prices of precious metals and/or the coin products derived from them? For example, the original $550 price for the Mint’s 1986 Proof 1 Oz. Gold Eagle in the year that it was released would work out to be roughly $1577 in 2024 dollars.
As is so typically the case, an inquiring mind would like to know. Thank you.
Kaiser, I just saw this note of yours. I suppose depending on who or what entity is calculating the inflation rate. The government has notoriously manipulated inflation numbers over the years so I would say gold is probably the best barometer regarding calculating inflation and it is reflected in its price. Using an average of $380 gold price in 1986, the 1986 $550 proof price is about a 45% premium charge. Using that premium estimate would put todays us mint proof gold at about $3,800 or so. Currently 2024 gold proof is $3,500. Such a deal. I may buy two… Read more »
Thanks for answering the question, East Coast Guru; always much appreciated. One of the things I can garner from your answer is that bottom line it doesn’t really matter what the relative prices are, chronologically speaking, after adjustment for inflation. Clearly what really and always counts is what sort of a pricing situation you are facing in the current day and how suitable a fit that might be with your purchase plan(s).
I couldn’t afford gold back then but when I was buying it in the 2000s I don’t remember the premium being so high percentage-wise. Like $300 on a proof set. My theory was that it was worth the small markup since numismatic proof gold would not be subject to government confiscation. But when premiums went up I stopped buying, and traded my proofs for bullion. My LCD offered me $315 per ounce over melt, while APMEX offered me $5 per ounce under melt for them!
Mark In Florida,
It’s interesting and very telling to see how much more important you were to your LCD than to APMEX, which essentially said keep your gold if you don’t like our offer.
Rumors confirmed – Flowing hair medal mintage limit is 75k
And some will have a privy mark .3%
Thanks for the heads up Tony@GA regarding the “2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal”. Details: Contains 1oz of pure 99.9% silver and will cost $104. The Mintage and Product Limit is 75,000. Of those, there will be 1,794 in total, bearing the “230” within a scroll privy mark or 2.39% of the total mintage. Additionally, of the 1,794 privy marked coins, 230 or .3% of the total overall mintage, will come with a signed COA by Director of the US Mint, Ventris Gibson. See below, for the link to the product page at the US Mint for added convenience. Initially the… Read more »
Privy, earmarked for MEZAK and others “in the loop “……. Goosing sales, ok, but like the Auto COA some jokers, somehow, wind up w multiples
John Q. Coinage,
You’re so right. It never fails that somehow when it comes to any and all of the hardest to acquire items from the Mint some “lucky” jokers (that’s the only way to describe these shysters) invariably will have several if not in fact a whole bunch of them to sell for absolutely ridiculous prices.
I’m willing to bet that Magic Mike “Sold Out – Limited Edition – Get Them Before They’re All Gone” Mezack is rehearsing his (everything to be be said twice, of course) speech in preparation for this Medal’s release.
Seems like this is an excellent way to guaranty some people will buy large numbers of these only to return those without the privy mark. This doesn’t sound well thought-out. The mint will end-up reselling a depleted inventory.
Kia99,
You’ve hit on something the Mint either didn’t consider or doesn’t care about.
Thanks for all the very helpful information, CaliSkier. Really, what would we do without you as our “Guide to the Goings On at the Mint”?
CaliSkier,
Here’s a question from a charter member of the American Society of the Perpetually Frugal: If you (the generic “you”) send your 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal to a TPG in its unopened Mint packaging and as a consequence don’t know whether or not you received one with the privy mark or whether or not your COA was in fact handsigned by Ms. Ventris, will it be a source of “buyer’s” remorse if the graded and slabbed medal comes back with neither?
I would be okay with neither,
However if it came back at MS69 then yes, I would have buyer’s remorse at that point…
This is where the presales/sales for the -70 coins come in handy. Pay up, but you know exactly what you’re going to get! Many times it’s just worth it. I believe this is what E1 does with his Silver Proof Kennedy’s, and what Major D recommends for you to get Kaiser! One and done deal for a nice PF70DCAM!
Indeed 70s are for the”I “ crowd….But repeater me “It’s only a medal”. Q does the Bronco medal have legs in the aftermarket. Talk amongst yerselves
In crowd, AI spell check does some weird crapolo
I don’t use spell check; I make my mistakes the old-fashioned way.
Rick, Many thanks as always for jumping into the breach with a answer! Not too long ago I wouldn’t have thought such a fuss would be made as to whether a coin graded 69 or 70 but I have clearly been educated over the last few years regarding how very important, in fact likely critical, this one-point distinction in fact is. It’s almost as if all the grades up through 69 are in one world while the 70 grade occupies its own separate universe. All that being said, I also know that while having that topmost iteration, or condition if… Read more »
Kaiser, I’d more or less kind of second what Rick said: “I would be okay with neither, However if it came back at MS69 then yes, I would have buyer’s remorse at that point…” Also John Q, the legs are quite short and there doesn’t appear to be much of a premium on those 2022 American Liberty “Bronco” silver medals. Mintage just a bit high for much of a secondary boost on a silver medal. I expect the 2024 FH silver medals to follow a similar trend. However, down the road for the heirs, 70’s will still be King IMO.… Read more »
CaliSkier,
“However, down the road for the heirs, 70’s will still be King IMO.”
Inheritance ranks just about as high in how I view my coin collection as does the idea of investment; neither of those is a consideration.
It’s a shame this isn’t a coin as I’d buy one at $104.00. I like the design of this, but just don’t collect medals, with or without privy marks.
Craig, I’m with you, it’s too bad it’s a Medal. I do NOT collect Medals except the American Liberty Series ones, that’s it. I have already purchased mine on a pre sale. Not sure if I’ll purchase one from the Mint or not. I will say tho, in all fairness to the Medal Collectors, it’s nice to see them get a bone thrown at them! As far as those ASE’s with the “Star” privy, I’m NOT happy about that! How are the diehard ASE Collectors supposed to get one? If I got one, I’d probably flip it for Gold. I… Read more »
AKBob,
I can only repeat what my dear dad said to me on more than a few occasions when disappointment ruled the moment, “The world is not fair.”
AKBob,
Between the shenanigans with the “privy marks” on the one hand and the “stars” on the other, I would say that the Mint has indeed figured out how to royally screw both medal and coin collectors at the same time. A veritable coup!
As I believe we’ve discussed before, Craig, this silver medal instead of silver coin issue is a rather unfortunate one, but no one is making a move to change that.
Kaiser,
I liked AKBob’s comment about throwing the medal collectors a bone for a change. If I were one of them, I believe I’d be excited to acquire it. I’m wondering if they will put a 230 privy on a percentage of the Au Flowing Hair coins, as they’re doing with the medals. How much $$$ would they go for on the secondary market? I’ll bet the ambitious Magic Mike is drooling over that prospect.
Craig,
I agree that it was a very insightful comment on AKBob’s part as indeed so very many of his contributions here tend to be. That being said, and as you pointed out there would likely be some excitement among medal collectors, the odds of receiving one of these are so small that “hope” might just be the slightly bigger element involved here than “excitement’. At least, I myself would not be all that inclined to get excited about something that promises to have an exceedingly small chance of happening. May the darkness of mood rule! 😉
Kaiser,
I think medal collectors would be happy to get one with the FH design on it. I like it because it’s not a ‘busy, distracting’ design and actually looks like a coin. If someone was lucky enough (I know that’s a stretch) to receive one with the 230 privy on it, then they can really get excited. I know the odds are very, very, very low of getting one, but as they say ‘keep hope alive’. Isn’t it amazing how much some will pay for an added mark on a coin.
Craig,
A big part of the reason that I can’t get excited about the incredibly slight possibility of getting a 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal with a privy mark on it is that I don’t even buy coins with the hope of an increase in their future value; consequently, since I don’t collect medals at all, this means even less to me.
The Gold with the privy will then be considered a different coin, with a different mintage, like the Silver. So the Gold with a 1794 mintage…
$13k for a raw OGP coin…
$25k for a graded -70 coin…
Only a wild guess, and I’m hopeful that the Mint goes for it.
Rick,
It never ceases to amaze if not in fact astonish me how much more value graded 70 coins bring to the table compared to their raw OGP counterparts.
Thanks for the revelation (to me, at least) regarding how the privy mark makes the coin itself become one of a separately counted mintage. Complexities of one sort or another seem to be abounding with this coin release, and what an opportunity to learn!
Rick,
Might it not be a bit too late for a Mint announcement regarding a privy mark (similar to that on the Medal) on the Gold Coin?
Well, Let’s take a look at this situation for a sec. 1) The Mint announced the date and the specific details of the Silver just over two weeks before it’s release on 10/15. I could be off a bit? 2) The Mint announced the date but not the specific details of the Gold about 6 weeks before it’s release on 11/14. 3) Conclusion: They have about 3-4 weeks to go(probably 1-2)to let the speculation, analysis, and FOMO build up so much, that a one day sellout is guaranteed(per that privy). The Marketing Mgr just saved his own rear-end(this time)after blowing… Read more »
Rick,
There I go again making another so-called “prediction” without having applied the slight amount of effort necessary to look up the release date of the of the 2024 FH Gold Coin. If I had known the Gold Coin was going on sale a full month after the Silver Medal I would never have imagined it was too late for the Mint to announce that something special was going to happen with regard to the Gold Coin also. Many thanks for supplying the applicable details which afforded me the opportunity to take another, better look at this situation!
Tony@GA,
We should know the Mint would give us far worse odds than a Las Vegas slot machine.
Tony@GA,
Slight update. The privy marks will appear on 1,794 or 2.39% of the medals while 230 or .3% of the COAs will be personally signed by the always reliable Ms. Ventris.
Another bogus item……. Club members only. I smell a total clusterphuck upcoming w the Flowing Hair AU, 1 per household, predict once again a lot of POd folk. I will likely try, should be good aftermarket but if l9,e the past 7 years any…ANY….Ltd. Item is impossible for,John Doe, or John Q. Coin collector to get. Funny. All the pre sales, multiples available even 70s, really….OH Ventri$
John Q. Coinage,
Ah yes, as yet another very exclusive private society along the lines of the movers and shakers billionaire’s Bildeberg Group, Yale University’s Skull and Bones, and the hidden Vatican’s Opus Dei, we have the United States Mint’s Secret Customers Club, the most deeply buried and inscrutable association of them all.
By the way, I admit my weakness, but I bought the 2021 silver proof set at the fire sale recently. Mostly for the Washington crossing the Delaware River quarter. Beautiful! The half is beautiful too. My wife likes the nickel. Anyway, it was delivered in a cardboard box. Not an Amazon bag. Just an FYI
Probably prepackaged in boxes for original sales.
The mint is the new bag lady in town!
Don’t expect cardboard any more.
Maybe. I doubt they will be putting the gold flowing hair coin in a bag. But you never know.
East Coast Guru,
Sometimes when you have to package something you grab whatever is handy.
Please enlighten us Kaiser, or anybody else. It’s survey time…
Your recent purchase of the 2024 Uncirculated Coin Set(s) direct from the Mint. Paper or plastic?
Rick,
I must be on Santa’s Nice List. I got mine in a cardboard (or, I suppose, what passes for same) box.
Survey says…
DaveSWFL and East Coast Guru,
If anyone can hang around for another hundred years or so I’m sure the Mint will be shipping our coins in suspension fields via quantum entanglement. No worries.
It’s Sunday so I’ll say AMEN to your comment!
DaveSWFL,
I find it rather peculiar that the expressions “bag lady” and “bag man” have such completely different meanings.
East Coast Guru, No shame in that, my friend. In fact, I had that under consideration myself but backed out, not because it wasn’t desirable or worth it but because in general I find it very difficult to buy things of any kind for myself unless they are either practical or absolutely necessary. Come to think of it and realizing that about myself, I in retrospect find it to be on the verge of miraculous that I was willing and able to expand my coin collection as much as I did right up until I began to fizz out over… Read more »
Kaiser Wilhelm, thanks for the Austrian/German translation in the previous thread(U.S. Mint Produces 405.2 Million Coins for Circulation in August)! Also, I appreciate your inclusion of the waving flag from the city of Vienna! Last but not least, thank you for the description and history lesson on the Austrian flag being the 2nd oldest National flag, with the broken chain representing liberation from Nazi Germany. May the human race never again experience such an oppressing fate as that which occurred prior to and during WWII. BTW, no worries on the Gold medal parity or surpassing even! I’d be honored to… Read more »
CaliSkier,
A multitude of you’re welcomes for your stupendous series of obviously sincere and heartfelt thanks above, my friend. Thanks to you in exchange and return for the very kind sentiments regarding our “relative podium positioning”; truly much appreciated!
Gott segne dich auch und immer, mein guter Freund, an jeden Tag und zum ganzen Jahr!
Proof Gold Flowing Hairs galore on eBay. All presales.
Looks like $6,500 is the magic number for a PR-70.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1313&_nkw=2024+Gold+Flowing+Hair&_sacat=0
E 1, With the prior understanding in place that if anything all of these goings on regarding this 2024 Proof Gold Flowing Hair Coin are infinitely far above my numismatic pay grade, I would still like to ask where and how exactly all of these ebay resellers are going to acquire the items they already claim they have to sell? If I didn’t know better (which I clearly don’t, pleading ignorance as I am in every respect) I would venture to say that what we have here is a whole bunch of ebay folks who are lined up for everyone’s… Read more »
Couldn’t currently be a Pig in a Poke???
John Q. Coinage,
What I find confounding about this whole US Mint purchase versus Ebay resale conundrum is how exactly did we manage to get to this point?
E1 It looks like all those listing on the Bay are from the same Seller! I would be very surprised these will be selling initially for that price. I’m guessing there are other Sellers that will be priced more appropriately! Could I be wrong, yes but ………. just sayin! Rick and I purchase ours from a Florida Seller and in the past, his prices have been very fair. Fingers crossed. I may have to buy one from the Mint and send it in for grading! I will NOT purchase from the current Seller on the Bay at his prices! I’ll… Read more »
AKBob,
I still don’t see anything with the privy mark yet. Is that the one to wait for? If you see one with a privy mark, silver or gold, should it be an instant grab?
E 1,
That’s precisely the situation that ought to up for discussion right now, and you’ve fortuitously just pointed that out. After all, considering how few of those coins with privy marks will be distributed and as such ultimately available throughout the general sales of this coin to the public it’s difficult to imagine anyone interested in being an ebay-situated reseller of one of those lucky ducats can be in any way sure of being able to procure one to sell to any prospective customer of theirs.
AKBob,
Seeing as I know less than nothing about making a purchase on ebay, I just have to ask. Is it possible for a purveyor of goods on this site to unload a whole bunch of these (at the moment effectively nothing but pipedreams) gold coins, collect all the money from the hopeful buyers in advance and then proceed to vanish into the cover of a dark and guilty night with all of his filthy lucre never to be seen or heard from again?
Kaiser I’ve bought and sold on eBay. Depending on the rating seems unlikely, eBay PayPal would try to recapture the $. But, well thought out I think a fraudster could do such, delay and hornswaggle long enough so the Jasper could abscond w the $ before snagged. As EBay PayPal have a guarantee re:$ they may make it good and sellers premiums pop .o5%
John Q. Coinage,
It just seems to me that in an online environment where there literally countless scams being carried out quite successfully 24/7 by unsavory characters of every stripe it would be rather unlikely if not downright impossible for any site to somehow manage to be spared.
AKBob @ Gold FH, Most of the flowing hair gold coins are being offered by the Happy Coin seller, all NGC. The other seller offering them is the one we have bought from before, the Coin Addict seller. He’s the one with the PCGS coins, but he does have a couple of NGC as well… So far those are the only two sellers, expect the other boys to jump in soon… E1, There has been no word on a privy for the gold coin, yet? If they pull a stunt similar to the medals it’s going to get crazy. Those… Read more »
Rick, I just did a very long Post, answering questions from E1 and Kaiser and I Posted some things to You as well! It’s in moderation or whatever they call it. I edited one letter, I changed a Y to a T and bam, moderation, lol! I saw our FL Sellers listings!! I’m NOT happy and I actually contacted the Seller and I told him just what I thot about his prices. I haven’t heard back yet. I was cordial, I wasn’t rude or anything like that. I can’t believe ppl will pay those prices cause I sure as hell… Read more »
AKBob,
When I just read in your comment that not only had you in fact managed to score a 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle but one of the 100 with a Ryder-signed COA at that I nearly soiled my pantaloons. How absolutely fantastic that must have felt; I can barely even begin to comprehend it! I always know that someone has to be the big winner, but it’s never been me and I don’t recall ever having met anyone who had been in this category either.
Rick,
I received an response from our FL Seller. He asked how I was and what I thot was a fair price. So I responded in my usual looong response, lol! I gave him examples even. I also pointed out to him that the more he sells on Pre Sales, the more he can purchase which increases His odds of getting one with a Privy “if” they do a Privy like they are on the Medal! I’ll keep you updated.
Sellers with multiple slabbed selections seems fishy, HOUSEHOLD LIMIT ONE*
*Limits may vary, waiting room #s are transferable”
1)Household limit one*
2)Friends with their own household unlimited*
Rick and John Q. Coinage,
As witness the twenty-thousand-plus member Brooklyn Buyers Club, that very coalition of co-ordinated coin buyers which was the launcher of those infamous US Mint Release Day bot invasions.
Thanks AK,
Things are getting interesting!
Rick,
I heard back twice from our Seller. First message was my (what I suggested) price was too low. Second response was, if he doesn’t sell any/many, he’ll lower the price. Some dummy put a $4800 bid on the one that up for a bid. There’s a sayin about fools with tooo much mulga!! 😉
My suggested price was $4200-$4400, that’s almost a thousand more than he sold the Lib/Brit for. Price gouging at its finest! The Mint gets away with it, why shouldn’t an Ebayer be able to do it too?
True AKBob, But consider this… 1) The person who made that $4800 bid may not be what it seems? It is possible that it’s a buddy of his bidding and helping him out, establishing an elevated price point and it just may work? Shill/hype/fake bidding still goes on. Also, he has several people that will help him buy a coin from their personal household on day one. Why not bid for one of his coins too? 2) Remember the L&B Gold went on sale for $3020 and they sold us a -70 for $3499… And just 6 months since that… Read more »
Rick,
And to think, once upon a time a man would walk into a coin shop.
AkBob,
“The Mint gets away with it, why shouldn’t an Ebayer be able to do it too?”
Well, I can think of one reason. The Mint is the only game in town; there are any number of purveyors of coins to be found on ebay.
Rick,
Many thanks for the comprehensive explanation regarding how eBay resellers acquire the coins they want to sell, how they make use of their pre-sales income, and why they can be trusted not to disappear with their buyers’ funds (the lyrical input of the great Steve Miller notwithstanding). It all makes very good sense to me!
Idiocracy, trying to convert video gamers into Numismatists, while alienating the last remaining Numismatist USM buyers, last one, please turn the light out when Ventris goes to Eigth,€ra convention
John Q,
I couldn’t agree more with You! You’re Spot (pardon the pun) on and You make waaay too much cents (pardon the pun, lol)! Boy, now I’m crack8n* myself up! 😉
John Q. Coinage,
I know next to nothing about gamers but I will tell you this; it would take a lot more to convert this numismatist into a gamer than it would to change a gamer into a coin collector!
Of the 75K silvers, only 1,794 silver privies will be released at random. That’s interesting. Might be worth a shot.
https://catalog.usmint.gov/230th-anniversary-flowing-hair-silver-medal-24YH.html?cgid=2024-product-schedule
I’m a Gamblin Man.
E 1,
I suppose I would have to say I am not. I have never gambled with money so I know nothing about that but I have gambled in life and lost some really big bets.
I’m gonna roll the dice and try to get a silver one on the 15th. If the gods are with me, it will have a privy mark. If it doesn’t, then its a stocking stuffer.
Not a bad idea E1.
One can’t go wrong with a nice stocking stuffer like that..
RIP Kris….
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For those that remember…..as a bunch of us old fudders do….Thanks for the memories and the music…….RIP Brah…….
Great picture Rick!
Thanks
That’s a shot from “A Star is Born”..
Great movie with a great concert scene setting–Sun Devil Stadium in AZ….
Indeed, RIP to a great one!
And now another one lost…RIP Pete.
Passed away without seeing himself in the MLB Hall of Fame!
Pete Rose. I doubt he is resting in peace. The last time I saw him was at a Giants game in San Francisco. I think about 1985. I was trying to take a picture of him with my telephoto from the stands. He stood up and got swinging mad, yelling, screaming, and swearing at me from the dugout. We all thought he was going to jump the fence and attack me. So, I parked my camera in my bag. A very emotional guy. I wouldn’t want to tangle with him either. I had a similar incident with Paul Newman at… Read more »
E 1,
That’s a fascinating story. It reminds me that there are two kinds of people in the world when it comes to this particular distinguishing characteristic There are those of us who are known only privately and there are others who are known both privately and by the public at large. I don’t think that, in spite of the elevation that fame brings, it could be a very comfortable or relaxing life to be known by everyone wherever you go. Honestly, I don’t believe I would like to trade for that.
I remember Saturday Night Live where Garrett Morris was doing the sports on Weekend Update news and regarding Pete’s new contract, “ Charlie Hustle, shoe bet!”
East Coast Guru,
Which brings to mind Shoeless Joe Jackson of the Chicago Black Sox and another such descent into MLB betting madness.
This doesn’t sound legal, like the the post office making error stamps for certain people. I hope someone files a class action suit and everyone gets to buy one at melt.
Well Mark, here’s my take and I could be way off base.?..
The Big Boy AP’s, and eventually you and I will have access to the majority of the star privy coins(1300 Monster Boxes), we just won’t get them quite as quickly as those stoners(100 monster Boxes)will get them LOL.
Rare star privy bullion ASE’s? Nope!
It’s so nice not to be playing the shenanigans games with the mint anymore! If it weren’t for the true old time mint classics, collectors would be SOL
I thought for an instant, DAVESWFL, that you meant the Mint wasn’t pulling shenanigans with us anymore, which is obviously as far from reality as it gets. Then I realized you meant we don’t have to play along with their shenanigans and your statement made a 100% more sense.
Rick,
This will be a cartoon version of a blow to the noggin; we’ll all be seeing stars!
Mark In Florida,
I append this codicil only where I think it deserves to go, and for my money a class action suit against the Mint and $4.95 might, here it comes, buy you a cup of coffee.
FYI. Upcoming CCAC meetings on Oct 15th and 16th. “Review and discussion of the candidate designs for the 2026 Semiquincentennial Dime; review and discussion of the candidate designs for the five 2026 Semiquincentennial Quarters; review and discussion of the candidate designs for the 2026 Semiquincentennial Half Dollar; review and discussion of the candidate designs for the 2026-2028 American Eagle Platinum Proof Coins; possible review and discussion of candidate designs for other proposed 2026 Semiquincentennial products; and possible review and discussion of candidate designs for the Emmett Till and Mamie Till-Mobley Congressional Gold Medal.” Link to the Federal Register notice, where… Read more »
CaliSkier,
Many thanks for once again being the “go to” guy with this timely information regarding the upcoming CCAC meetings. Much appreciated!
By the way, October 15 also happens to be the release date of the 230th Anniversary Flowing Hair Silver Medal, how about that!
Kaiser said, “And to think, once upon a time a man would walk into a coin shop.” Or even buy coins through mail orders well before the Internet came along. Or going to a live auction for your chance at some coins back in the day… Which brings me to the coin below. E1, you know all about this one. It’s one of only 2 known 1975 no S dimes and #1 in the 100 Greatest Modern Coin book… Click on the [more information] description, or scroll down, check out the photos and the “Item Information” down there. Great story.… Read more »
Rick,
Yes, that one is about as rare as it gets. That coin has been CACed since we last saw it. Any guesses where it might close out at? I would say $550K. Let’s keep an eye on it.
Interesting, CAC made an exception here, and understandably so.
Normally they only accept dimes up to 1945…
As I’ve said before, they like the old stuff!
$850k hammer is s my guess!..
https://www.cacgrading.com/stickering/coins-accepted
Rick and E 1,
Admitting up front that I know virtually next to nothing about how coins are priced for auction makes me feel more comfortable about prognosticating that the vaunted Proof No S 1975 Dime might go for over a million dollars, especially considering the fact that there are only two available.
As of 10/02/2024, 25 days left on the auction – Current Bid $295K
I wonder how much Ruth E paid for the coin?
Rick,
I’ll confess my ignorance – how was this documented as a “no S” San Francisco mint coin? How can this be distinguished from a Philly mint product?
Because it is a proof struck coin, only proofs came in the “S” proof sets from the mint? They are also selling the remaining proof set along with this rarity. When the P mint sent the dies to S they mistakenly sent a P die instead of the S die? Whatever the case may be they caught this one early compared to the other ‘no S’ examples in that story within the link.
Rick,
Thanks for the education! One of my reasons for participating on this forum is being able to tap into the brains of collectors who are far more knowledgeable than me. How else can I learn?
Sam I’m a learner as well, and fairly new to the hobby compared to the many collector veterans here, and thanks!
Rick and Sam-I-am,
Those are all great points from both of you, and I would only add that there really is no time to stop nor any limit to learning.
Rick, Thanks again for the info – I had missed the extended story when first looking at the link. Wow! I was unaware that there were so many other no-S errors out there.
Rick and Sam-I-am,
I had originally asked myself the same question regarding the identification of the 1975 No S Dime. The answer is in the Proof Set! 🙂