CCAC to Review Designs for 2024 Quarters and US-UK Coin and Medal

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The Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee (CCAC) will hold a two-day public meeting beginning Feb. 28 to review and discuss candidate designs for multiple medals and coins, like the 2024 quarters honoring American women and the collaborate U.S. and UK 2024 gold coin and silver medal.

This pair of designs is among many, and others, up for review by the CCAC
This pair of designs for a 2024 Liberty and Britannia Gold Coin and Silver Medal is among many up for review by the CCAC

The CCAC is tasked with advising the Secretary of the Treasury on themes and designs pertaining to all United States coins and medals.

Agenda topics up for review and discussion include candidate designs for the:

  • Willie O’Ree Congressional Gold Medal (Feb. 28)
  • 2024 American Innovation $1 Coin for Missouri (Feb. 28)
  • Liberty and Britannia Gold Coin and Silver Medal (Feb. 28)
  • 2024 American Women Quarters (March 1)

Public Law 117-84, introduced as the Willie O’Ree Congressional Gold Medal Act, awards a Congressional gold medal to Willie O’Ree in recognition of his "extraordinary contributions and commitment to hockey, inclusion, and recreational opportunity." O’Ree is a Canadian former professional ice hockey player who was the first black player in the National Hockey League (NHL).

In addition to U.S. coinage, the United States Mint produces national medals like Congressional gold medals. The U.S. Mint also produces duplicates of them in bronze. Public Law 117-84 authorizes the Mint to sell Willie O’Ree bronze medals to the public at prices "sufficient" to cover their costs.

Innovation dollars are authorized under the American Innovation $1 Coin Act. Program coins celebrate innovations and innovators throughout the U.S. and its territories.

Little information is currently available about the Liberty and Britannia Gold Coin and Silver Medal. The coin and medal are a collaboration between the U.S. Mint and Britain’s Royal Mint.

Authorized under the Circulating Collectible Coin Redesign Act of 2020, Public Law 116-330, the U.S. Mint’s four-year series of American Women Quarters™ honors women who shaped American history. The Mint recently announced the honorees for the 2024 quarters. They include Patsy Takemoto Mink, Dr. Mary Edwards Walker, Pauli Murray, Zitkala-Ša, and Celia Cruz.

CCAC Meeting Time and Public Listening Option

The meeting on Feb. 28th is from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. while the one on March 1 is from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. (EST).

Anyone interested may dial in to listen to the meeting at (888) 330-1716 and using access code: 1137147.

For members of the public, this meeting is for "listen purposes only" — no comments or questions will be taken, and phones must be muted. Instead, those wanting to offer matters for the CCAC’s consideration are invited to submit them by email to info@ccac.gov.

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Roger

I know this isn’t exactly inline with the purpose of this meeting but I’d like to see Congress authorize the mint to produce a fractional 24k gold coin based on the Flying Eagle/Indian Head designs of James B Longacre with the Indian Head Cent for the obverse and his design for the Flying Eagle Cent for the reverse.

This “Flying Eagle” 24k gold coin would be a beautiful companion to the existing Gold Buffalo and would put 24k gold coins within the reach of more Americans. 

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Antonio

Nice idea. I’d like the mint mark below the date though. Otherwise, I’m game.

Roger

Of course bullion would have no mint mark but…………..

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Roger

Both, just like the Buffalo. I actually prefer bullion myself when it comes to gold.

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Roger

The much lower premium to purchase it. For Gold I collect some pre1933 gold coins for my collection and modern bullion for my portfolio. On the silver side I both collect pre1964 silver coins, the Numismatic versions of ASE and acquire the bullion version for my portfolio. I guess you can say from a collector perspective I’m much more interested in the classic circulating coins although I do buy all of the Mint sets every year to keep my collections up to date. I really only became interested in gold coins when all the holes in my collections became filled.… Read more »

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Roger

American Eagle 2022 One Ounce Gold Proof Coin $2700
American Eagle 2022 One Ounce Gold Unc. Coin $2670
American Eagle 2022 One Ounce Gold BU Coin $2025

Roger

Actually I intended 1/4 oz. for two reasons:

  1. 1/4 oz. is only slightly larger than the original cent
  2. The ratio of the denomination would mirror the Buffalo ($.05/$50 $.01/$10)

I cleaned up my original image and gave it a modern rim.

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Roger

My third and most important reason for suggesting a 1/4 ounce coin is that my aging eyes would need a loupe to see the detail on a smaller coin.

Caliskier

Roger, excellent idea and nice work with the graphic design skills! I actually prefer the older “rim” version, however would be open to a different pattern around the edge. Perhaps, if you’re not too busy and I’m not asking too much, is it possible with your computer program or skill set, to insert either small/miniature, cactus , mountain or pine tree in place of the other pattern(classic) or even alternating the 3, just for visual entertainment purposes of course? Maybe arrowheads? Just curious….If not, no biggie. Or perhaps some other recognized type “American Indian” type symbol? Perhaps the rim pattern… Read more »

Roger

I prefer the classic rim designs too but the mint seems to have gotten away from that.

My artistic skills are limited ( by which I mean nonexistent) which is why the fields are plain. The only complex images were copied from actual coins in Photoshop.

Caliskier

Well Roger, I think have a few more artistic skills than you give yourself credit for. Thanks for providing the images you were able to source!

Craig

I can just imagine all the wokees in America ready to castrate you for using the description “Indian Head.” I would suggest some sensitivity training for you until you realise it is called a “Native American Head” coin. Personally, I like the classic coin designs and wished they used an eagle like that on the reverse of the new ASE.

Roger

LOL that is exactly why I referred to it as the gold “Flying Eagle” coin. And it’s not actually a Native American but “Lady Liberty wearing an Indian headdress” so it’s more of a cultural appropriation offense

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Craig

Oh, you would be surprised! I had a friend on FB that was offended when I used the word Indian. She insisted that I used the correct and modern term Native American. Go figure. If the term “Indian” is in vogue with NA’s, maybe common sense isn’t completely dead yet.

REB

For me political correctness is just common courtesy. Tell me what you want to be called and I’ll call you that.

Kaiser, isn’t it?

Roger

For a 1/10 24k gold I think they should have annualized the 2016 1/10 24k gold Mercury anniversary coin like they are doing with the Morgan/Peace coins instead of a one-time commemorative coin.

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Roger

On another note did you get the email on the Mint’s new virtual waiting room (Waitroom)?

Roger

Time will tell. I’m not too concerned since I’m able to subscribe to all the Mints offerings that interest me.

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REB

That’s my concern as well. I’ve got all the silver options covered with subscriptions. The first gold test will be the four-coin American Eagle set. The 12,000 set mintage is higher than the last couple of years. As Tom Petty might have warned about the Mint’s new initiative: “the waiting is the hardest part”.

REB

Agreed. I’ve always loved the Mercury dime design.

Caliskier

I second, third, fourth(?) with you on that one Reb! As far as eyes go Kaiser, that was one of many deciding factors, to have “shot the lock off the wallet” in 2018 in order to p/u the American Pd Eagle! Also agree with you in regards to Tom Petty lyric. I digress to say, I’m so glad I managed to get to one of his concerts(Red Rocks, CO) before he passed! A couple of, my favorite tunes of his, “Break Down” and “You Got Lucky”! Not a “super fan” if you will but a big fan! Ahh the memories!… Read more »

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REB

You got “Lucky” – I loved Petty’s vocal work on “King of the Hill”. As far as tunes go, give me “Refugee”, “Don’t Come Around Here No More” and “Free Fallin'”.

REB

Love, love, love “Handle with Care” with Harrison’s laid back loping guitar and vocals along with Roy O’s soaring vocal solo. Throw in Jeff Lynne’s masterful production for good measure and you have … sonic bliss.

Craig

I agree and I have all three of those special gold renditions of the Mercury Dime, Standing Liberty Quarter, and the Walking Liberty Half Dollar. I only wished they had minted some in their original silver composition.

Caliskier

So, in regards to CCAC review of 2024 quarters, how about this 2023 scenario, that appears to have slipped through the Legislative cracks? How is the US Mint “NOT” going to be in violation of the following when striking the 2023,“Jovita Idar Quarter” “SEC. 6. CIRCULATING COLLECTIBLE STANDARDS AND GENERAL PRO- VISIONS. Section 5112 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection: ‘‘(aa) STANDARDS AND GENERAL PROVISIONS FOR CIRCULATING COLLECTIBLE COINS UNDER SUBSECTIONS (X), (Y), AND (Z).— ‘‘(1) PROHIBITION ON CERTAIN REPRESENTATIONS.—No head and shoulders portrait or bust of any person,… Read more »

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Antonio

But she’s dead, right? Now if there was a James Earl Carter Presidential Dollar minted, that would be different. As far as a person’s image on the reverse of the coin, they all (AWQ) have a person’s image on the reverse. Same as the Washington Crossing the Delaware and Tuskegee Airmen Quarters.

Caliskier

At Antonio and a not D. We are not talking about a persons image. We are talking about a “bust” or portrait. The US Mint defines “bust” as, “A portrait on a coin, usually including the head, neck and upper shoulders” A “portrait” can be defined as: “a painting, drawing, photograph, or engraving of a person, especially one depicting only the face or head and shoulders.” Here in lies the problem with the 2023 Jovita Idar coin: it’s even in the US Mint description. “The reverse (tails) depicts a portrait of Jovita Idar with her hands clasped. Within her body… Read more »

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Caliskier

Gotta love spell check, huh, not D? Lol Major D.

Caliskier

LOL, Major D, sometimes my communications are not as clear as I hope.

As others have noted, I also can miss the joke or intended sarcasm, when reading posts. Curse of the over communicator and desire to check for understanding, that sometimes clouds up the obvious?

Caliskier

Major D, different coins have different legislation and Public Laws that govern the stipulations regarding their given designs. The legislation pertaining to the American Women’s Quarter can be found in Public Law 116-330, whereas the Native American Dollars designs are spelled out in Public Law 110-82. Here is how they wrote the part about the reverse of the NA $1’s: “‘‘(D) REVERSE DESIGN SELECTION.—The designs selected for the reverse of the coins described under this sub- section— ‘‘(i) shall be chosen by the Secretary after consulta- tion with the Committee on Indian Affairs of the Senate, the Congressional Native American… Read more »

Caliskier

Also regarding bust and portrait. “As nouns the difference between portrait and bustis that portrait is a painting or other picture of a person, especially the head and shoulders while bust is a sculptural portrayal of a person’s head and shoulders.”

Caliskier

No Major D, I’m not a lawyer, but I play one on TV! JK I appreciate the compliment and happen to be lucky enough to have a fairly good vocabulary, ability to spell, decent reading comprehension and a passion for follow through, as well as compulsion to point out US Mint faux pas. BTW Again, I really appreciate the complement, as the subject(school) English was never a strong suit of mine. More of a Math/Science kind of guy! LOL Give me a Noun or Adjective and I’m all good! All that other verb, past, present, punctuation, stuff, not so much.… Read more »

Caliskier

I’ve enjoyed sharing here on Coin News with this crew Kaiser Wilhelm and as you can see(NPI), I’m into details, when talking coins or pretty much anything I guess.

Probably missed my calling? I was once told by a supervisor of mine over 25 years ago, that he thought that I’d be a good “technical writer”, however since I’ve identified as having struggles with English(school), I found this to be somewhat perplexing?

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Caliskier

Thanks for the support Kaiser Wilhelm! I’m not sure what category or type/style your writing falls into, however without saying more, as I’m sure all who frequent this site agree, your writings and placement of words is quite advanced, to say the least, IMO.

I’m going out on a limb, to deny your “undeniable shortcomings”, due to the number of syllables in these 2, back to back words! LOL

Caliskier

Here are a list of Sets or products that will be affected by this AWQ’s “Major”/“Illegal”,design error.

The AWQ’s, rolls and bags, AWQ Proof Set, AWQ’s Silver Proof set, Annual Uncirculated and Annual Proof set, Annual Silver Proof Set, Limited Edition Silver Proof set, and of course the festive Ornaments.

So I count 11 different products that will contain the “Illegally” approved and produced, 2023 Jovita Idar AWQ.

Caliskier

Hard to argue that one Kaiser Wilhelm! Perhaps that is why Most nations are really beginning to “stack”/stock up on gold? Not that they haven’t been, however these last 3-5 years, seem like a “money” grab is upon us very soon? Just seems like, if your unable or unwilling to follow or comprehend the written legislation governing coin manufacturing, perhaps you shouldn’t be able to have your hands in the cookie jar? This major detail was missed by ALL involved in deciding this coins image: Artist, sculptor/engraver, Secretary of the Treasury, Director of the US Mint; CCAC and any othes… Read more »

Caliskier

Yeah, kind of interesting that they found it necessary to really make sure “any person, living or dead and no portrait of a living person”??? LOL

Caliskier

@Antonio and others, Now the second part of the disclaimer makes a bit more sense to me, when looking again, at the entirety of the statement. “No head and shoulders portrait or bust of any person, living or dead, and no portrait of a living person may be included in the design on the reverse of any coin under subsections (x), (y), and (z).”” As long as the “Portrait” shows more than the Head and. Shoulders and she is no longer living(thanks Antonio!), the “Portrait” which is depicted is in compliance, Had she still been alive, then there would have… Read more »

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Caliskier

Yeah Kaiser, I think perhaps I subliminally gained that particular insight, potentially from a “Little Diddy”, Julie Andrews gained notoriety for! Something about sweets as well as medicine and assistance with ingesting? Haha So now here’s a bit of an interesting twist. That movie was released 18 days after my brothers birth and I happened to have been.born on the 18th. Hmmm….That is also the age in which my roots took hold, in an alpine environment, which eventually would become my handle. Pure bliss, whisking your worries away, on a frigid winters day! Lastly, my current age is also divisible… Read more »

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Fviia

No one should be without friends on such a great day. Working in a last minute trip for the kids to Colorado this week.

Caliskier

Once one, gains enough mileage, the much sought after feeling of Nirvana, can not be interrupted, held up by others, shenanigans, desires for food, potty breaks, lost skis, group meet ups and such. Talk and companionship, unless able or at a similar level of experience and desire for advanced powder terrain, is relegated to a short lunch maybe(?), chair/gondola ride and Apres Ski or dinner. The allure of untracked, is as good as “Gold” IMO and such a “Rush”!!! Have an awesome time skiing in Colorado. Favorites I’ve skied are Copper Mountain(Enchanted Forrest) and Vail(Back Bowls/Blue Sky Basin). I’m having… Read more »

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Caliskier

Hate to get too graphic Kaiser Wilhelm, however I’ve often told people, that if I were to somehow cut my wrist, there wouldn’t be any blood, just “Snowflakes” shooting out like you’d just entered a “Snow Globe” that had been frantically shaken by a 5 year old! That’s how much I Love snow and am completely and thoroughly enamored with, freshly fallen snow! MAGICAL! In regards to your experience being only on a toboggan. It’s all good, as I also am in favor of any way, one chooses to slide or move on snow, as they are all fun and… Read more »

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Caliskier

Thanks for the additional information re: International Polar Bear Day and bobsleigh/toboggan runs in your hometown back in Austria! Super Cool! Regarding your “membership in the downhill snow sport club or any such related frozen fun society”, you’re absolutely a member in good standing! In my years, I just never bought into the alpine skiers vs Nordic or Tele skiers or versus snowboarders BS. Snow is fun, no matter how you like to slide! I will say, in all fairness, that alcohol and “Tower Padding” is highly discouraged and often illegal. Too many evenings have ended in major tragedy. Sounds… Read more »

Roger

I was looking at my Washington Quarter collection and feeling a little nostalgic. I have one Intercept Shield album with all the quarters from 1932-1998 (162 coins over a 66 year period). After that album was filled I started buying Mint sets to continue the collection.

How times have changed with the quarter program. Now the Mint issues 20 different quarters (Uncirculated, Proof, Silver Proof) most every year.

Caliskier

Roger, I like the sounds of your Intercept Shield album for all of those quarters. Reminds me, of when I purchased an Intercept Shield box to house a few graded coins, I picked up. I’d never heard of them and saw an individual coin, with an IS slab holder on an EBay sale. I then researched and decided if I was going to waste money on some modern slabs, why not throw them in an official Intercept Shield, slab box to help with preservation? Never ended up with 10 slabbed coins, so I also put in a few coins, just… Read more »

Roger

I’m listening to the CCAC meeting this morning and your issue of a two headed coin was discussed. It was explained that to comply with the law a portrait on the reverse of a coin needed to include the head, torso and hands.

Craig

I see the mint is going to be using a “Waiting Room” for high interest items. I think this is a step in the right direction.

Dazed and Coinfused

Looks like Starbucks is getting into the coin game. Ugly coins. We get the black fat nosed Lilo version wearing a culturally appropriated headdress and weak Ole England gets the Amazonian wonder woman wearing Roman armor. Our walking liberty looks like she needs to do more walking. No wonder she can’t win a war or even withdraw properly.

Fviia

Anyone into pinball, there are also the Safecracker Tokens?

Caliskier

Is “Pandora’s Box” ready to be exposed? So now, I’m in a wait and see pattern. This morning I sent out 3 e-mails soliciting clarification or an explanation in regards to the 2023 “Two Headed” Jovita Idar quarter dollar. I’m interested in what these “Powers that Be” will have to say, without admitting guilt or fessing up to, everyone that was involved, dropping the ball on Public Law 116-330, Section 6, Subsection (aa), subset (1). Wonder if they even know or if it had been mentioned at ANY step/point along the process? Copies sent to the CCAC, US Commission of… Read more »

Caliskier

Well, 4 strikes and I’m out IMO! Here is what I attempted to send to the CCAC, with multiple adjustments, to no avail. Subject: 2023 Jovita Idar Reverse design question Body:”To whom it may concern, Dir Sir or Madam, I’m wondering if you’re able to explain the following? How and why, is the United States Mint, “NOT” going to be in violation of the following Public Law 116-330, upon issuing the 3rd American Women’s Quarter release for 2023, the 2023 Jovita Idar American Women’s Quarter”? Below is Sections 6 of Public Law 116-330, which pertains to the standards by which,… Read more »

Roger

Report of “Fly on Wall” #6 I found listening to the meeting both interesting and frustrating. Frustrating because the designs for the Missouri Innovation Dollar and Willie O’Ree medal were not available online so it was difficult to follow their comments. I did find one image of the MID which I’m pretty sure is the winning design #10. Also they mute the meeting while they score the designs and then come back without warning and announce the scores. You really have to pay attention because they don’t confirm the winning design afterwards saying “the scores speak for themselves.” I’ll be… Read more »

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