Happy collecting my friends and I always appreciate your input and education.

Mouse

Seth: I am definitely not used to national racism and truly value the beauty of the coin. Canada is not immune to systemic racism. When it comes to the indigenous population, and their contributions that helped build our great country, they are just now receiving recognition. Sadly the coins produced by the RCM that show case their historical contributions are only worth their weight in gold and have a very low collector market. I agree with you fully that the RCM is now starting to produce collector and bullion coin designs catered to an international market. I am very proud of my mint as Canada is truly a melting pot and every culture that helped build this beautiful nation deserves credit for their contributions.

I was hoping that the USA mint was going to ask its population for input into the image that was to be captured on the 2017 Liberty coin, very similar to Canada’s 2016 $10 dollar bill. I put in my vote and sadly it was not the winner. The 2016 Canadian 10 dollar bill is graced with the image of a beautiful lady by the name of Viola Desmond. A lady who struggled against racism and sacrificed her freedom to change law in Canada and end racism. She, in the year 1927 was not considered or recognized in Canadian law as a “person”, due to her race…she fought for equality and changed Canada for the better…she was African by decent. Her contributions during her life made Canadian history. Having national input makes the currency historically significant and a treasure for generational collectors. I am not a bill collector but did purchase the note for my collection to pass down the family line.

Joe – KC & SO: I totally agree with your input as I was thinking the same.I am going to pick up a few 1/10 ounce beauties and when my collector hat goes back on (as I alternate my purchases from collector coins to investment coins / bullion) I will purchase a proof 1 ounce 2017 beauty directly from the USA mint. A graded version is not necessary right now as I plan to just appreciate the design for its beautiful balance between art and currency. It is a coin even with a low mintage that will need to stay in a safety deposit box for a very long time (generations) before it becomes a coin that will net any long term profit.

Keep collecting my friends and try to spark the next generation to pick up where we leave off.

Cheers,

Mouse

A few coin acquaintances and I analyzed the 255th Liberty Gold coin last year from an ‘eyes wide open’ perspective, here’s the take-a-ways from our assessment:

The 225th HR Liberty has the potential to be a Classic Coin, through:

– 1st Proof HR
– Raised edge lettering
– Nice design
– And association with the 225th Mint’s B-day

However.., the U.S. Mint destroyed any near-term potential ramp up in appreciation with that idiotic 100,000 mintage running for 2 years, which is likely to remain on sale until the 2019 Gold Liberty is released.

Had the mint limited the mintage to 20,000 to 25,000.., then we would have had a Big Winner!

Now, to Seth’s point above, I do believe that is an issue with the U.S. market, though I’ve also felt that many of our 1 oz special gold releases go overseas and STAY THERE, …to Asia and Europe. I believe A LOT of the 2015 HR Liberties went overseas as many were sold and not that many were ever dumped on eBay, relative to other gold releases.

So.., here’s the kicker for me and why I believe the 2017 HR Liberty may have some legs to it:

– If the mintage stays under 35,000 – 37,000, AND,
– The mint doesn’t screw up the designs for the Native American, Asian, Etc.., designs for 2019, 2021, 2023.., THEN the 2017 HR could have something going for it.
– I personally believe the 2019 & 2021 designs have the potential to be spectacular, albeit likely lower mintage than 2017, though for series collectors the 2017 with it’s differentiating attributes, above may see down the road pick up.
– I’ll remain optimistic that our U.S. Mint won’t screw up the designs for the follow on releases.

Personally, if I was your financial advisor, I’d tell you to invest all your money in investments (equity) and just buy the coin (in OGP) for your collection because you like it, and have reasonable expectations that it may increase in value. Modern coins ARE NOT investments, NOR will they ever be, unless spot goes up (as the U.S. collector base is aging and the hobby is pretty lean, and getting leaner).

Good Luck Mate!

Disclaimer: I own the 1oz HR Liberty, may buy another with my Trump tax savings, and plan to buy the 1/10 Liberty on Thursday (which I believe will sell out w/i a week).

IMHO, the 2017 1-oz version of this coin caused quite a stir here in the USA among collectors, unfortunately to the down side. Racism is alive & well unfortunately in the USA. When the design of the African-American female as Lady Liberty (a first on any coin or medal the U.S. Mint has ever struck in 225 years last year), was released to the public here, the Mint had to shut down its Facebook account temporarily due to extreme negative racist comments. The largest numismatic publication in the world, Coin World, also suspended its social media on the topic due to the same situation. A poll by the largest association of the most prominent coin dealers in the USA, the Professional Numismatists Guild, of its free website users (collectors, investors, dealers, flippers etc.) showed a vote that approximately 70% said they would not buy this coin. The current sales figure of under 28,000 coins of a 100,000 mintage shows that poll was on target. Therefore, even though the final mintage will be low whenever the Mint decides to stop selling this coin, there will be no real secondary market for it. Also, those who wanted the 1 oz. version last year but could not afford it, will buy the cheaper tenth-oz. version this year with the same basic design & will not need the more expensive 1 oz. version. I loved the design from the beginning & treasure it as a forward-thinking, beautiful design, but racism is alive & well unfortunately in the USA especially in the current vastly polarizing political climate here. In your home country of Canada, you have a much more overall acceptance of minorities & I admire that so much. For instance, Canada has a very large Asian community on a percentage basis compared to the USA & the RCM caters to that market in Canada very well. To be fair, I can’t give specific investment advice per se, but I buy what I like & plan to pass most items down to family members. I only sell when I have a duplicate raw coin or set or to upgrade a certified graded coin. Hope this helps you out Mouse.

Happy collecting!

-NumisdudeTX

Any feed back would be greatly appreciated.

Mouse