Comments on: 2017 Ellis Island 5 Oz Silver Uncirculated Coin Released

By: Chas Barber

Chas Barber — Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:36:42 +0000

Robert, pass, $2k! License to Steal he has……the paper holder is Ltd. to 6k sets…collect holders?

By: Joe Brown

Joe Brown — Tue, 12 Sep 2017 05:20:12 +0000

even if it was a 2017 S proof 70 Silver Eagle with a mintage of 75,000 from the Congratulations Set, it would be foolish to pay $1,999.95 . If all 75,000 were all graded by all the certified grading company,s & maybe 1000 were graded ultra deep cameo proof 70 i could sea paying something like that. Mike is a expert minipulater . He is good to learn from.

By: Seth Riesling

Seth Riesling — Mon, 11 Sep 2017 23:08:59 +0000

Robert –

The 2016 Congratulations Set had the same 2016-W Proof ASE $1 coin that was sold separately. It is not a “special” coin & trades with reputable dealers for like $100 or less in Proof-70. The “set” had sales of nearly 6,000 & obviously was not a popular product since it has only a regular coin that is still available separately in it. Mezack is playing up the “low” sales figure on this set to make it sound special, when it is really a very common coin. He never mentions that the coin was sold separately & there are hundreds of thousands out there. It shows you the depths of misinformation he tells on his HSN coin show visits & his major price gouging on common coins.

-NumisDudeTx

By: Robert

Robert — Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:09:31 +0000

I am looking for some information regarding the 2016 West Point Mint Silver Eagle from the 2016 “Congratulations” set. HSN is selling a 2016-W Silver Eagle “Congratulations” set coin graded PR70 DCAM by ANACS for $1999.95. They claim that the full production for this special congratulations set silver eagle is only 5966. I recognize that HSN is typically over priced, however, can anyone tell me 1) if the production number is accurate and 2) how much this 2016 W Mint Congratulations set coin is really worth in today’s collector market as graded PR70 by any of the major coin grading companies? I cannot seem to find any information on this coin at all.

By: Chas Barber

Chas Barber — Mon, 11 Sep 2017 18:45:09 +0000

Seth & Tinto great marketing & $$$ milking from the special label boys, I see it like sode, you have coke, diet coke, decafe coke, decafe diet coke, decafe low sugar coke, stevia coke, classic cloke, new coke, etc, eating up shelf space, as with PCGS labels like Chumlee fingerprint on Morgan $1 label, etc. “70” Bullion pucks seems a little scammy, rim nicks, etc. @ minimum usually……

By: Seth Riesling

Seth Riesling — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:56:34 +0000

Tinto –

You got it right man! An outright scam is what “special” labels are. The worse thing is that the TPGs list each label separately in it’s census report, instead of listing for example all MS-69 2017 ASE $1 coins as a total figure, you have to know what labels we’re offered & look up each one & then add them up yourself for a real census total figure. This situation makes it look like some coins with a pretty picture on the label, but grade the same, are “rare”. The TPGs do everything they can to confuse the uneducated collectors for a marketing scam. I am glad we have TPGs to detect counterfeits, but they need to get back to basics of authentication (genuine) & grade only on labels, which is all that really matters.

Happy collecting Tinto!

-NumisDudeTx

By: Tinto

Tinto — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:05:42 +0000

@Seth Riesling

How true about grading company scam! I don’t know if anyone has ever really counted how many labels have been concocted by them (including those specific/customized for some large quantity buyers) to lure folks in .. and of course the First Strike/Early Release/First Day of Issue/similar stuff where it is now commanding a premium over a coin without it (from same TPG) , though it has the same grade .. wouldn’t be surprising if this got started with big dealers’ shills paying more at the onset of these labels to start the ball rolling ….. and now folks/flippers wanting to get a bigger bang for the buck will pay the premium for that label …

By: Seth Riesling

Seth Riesling — Fri, 08 Sep 2017 17:16:40 +0000

The bullion version of the Ellis Island 5-ounce silver ATB coin sold out on August 31 & the Mint will not be producing any more. All of the 2017 5- ounce bullion version “pucks” have sold out. The Mint still has some of the 2016 Harper’s Ferry bullion version “pucks” available to the Mint’s bullion coin Authorized Purchasers. A new 2017 5-ounce silver coin does not come out till November!

-NumisDudeTx

By: Seth Riesling

Seth Riesling — Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:27:18 +0000

These are 99.93% fine silver & are the Vapor Blast version with “P” Mint mark. The bullion version without Mint mark is also an Uncirculated coin but doesn’t have a Mint mark, doesn’t come in a presentation box with hard plastic capsule & doesn’t come with a COA & are packed in plastic tubes of 10 coins all touching on each other during shipment (therefore there is no such thing as a true MS-70 bullion version since they all have abrasions on them (it is a grading company scam!!) MS-70 coins are not supposed to have any scratches or marks viewable with a 5x magnification.

-NumisDudeTx