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		By: TY		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TY]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Get rid of the penny.  No argument here.

Steel nickels are the only durable choice, but pure nickel plating will cause allergic reactions.  Use the industrial proven 88% zinc/12% nickel plating instead, though this isn&#039;t something that&#039;s current available by coin blank providers.  We just need to educate people that these new nickels won&#039;t work in vending machines.  I doubt they&#039;d care.  Nickels will be phased out eventually and it won&#039;t affect the vending industry.  

There&#039;s no real need to change dimes and quarters.  We need to take Congress out of these decisions if anything is to get done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get rid of the penny.  No argument here.</p>
<p>Steel nickels are the only durable choice, but pure nickel plating will cause allergic reactions.  Use the industrial proven 88% zinc/12% nickel plating instead, though this isn&#8217;t something that&#8217;s current available by coin blank providers.  We just need to educate people that these new nickels won&#8217;t work in vending machines.  I doubt they&#8217;d care.  Nickels will be phased out eventually and it won&#8217;t affect the vending industry.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no real need to change dimes and quarters.  We need to take Congress out of these decisions if anything is to get done.</p>
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		By: Lbrewer42		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lbrewer42]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Revalue the system.  Put it on a PM basis, and watch the problems disappear - except for those who are profiting from this fiasco money system.  However, its D.C. - do we really expect logic?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revalue the system.  Put it on a PM basis, and watch the problems disappear &#8211; except for those who are profiting from this fiasco money system.  However, its D.C. &#8211; do we really expect logic?</p>
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		By: Lbrewer42		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lbrewer42]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SIMPLE solution...
Make a new currency where one (new) cent is worth ten of the old, one (new) nickel is worth ten of the old, etc.  As the older issues disappear from circulation, new valued coins are made.

Yes, to begin with, people will make mistakes.  Nowadays people may be in too much of a hurry to bother trying to tell new coins from old the coins bu ONLY changing the OBV and REV designs.  So - like Canada has done in the past -  have 12 flat sides (think stop sign with 12 sides) on all new coins.  Also radically change the OBV and REV so none of the older ones could be altered (by hammering the sides) to look like a new one.

Of course there will be some who will alter the old ones and there will be some fooled by the deception.  But as the older coins disappear from usage, this problem will also disappear.  If someone is taken, its their own fault (and I include myself).   

Money is saved in the making of the coins.

Want even more savings?  

Step 2:  Making polymer notes instead of paper would further the savings since polymer notes last longer - as proven in other countries.

Actual problems with implementing this proposed system:  politicians getting paybacks from those with a monetary interest in the current system as it exists - such as those who supply &quot;paper&quot; for bills to be printed on.  It is likely this common sense, easy fix will never be employed.  Instead more money will be wasted for years while the debate rages.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SIMPLE solution&#8230;<br />
Make a new currency where one (new) cent is worth ten of the old, one (new) nickel is worth ten of the old, etc.  As the older issues disappear from circulation, new valued coins are made.</p>
<p>Yes, to begin with, people will make mistakes.  Nowadays people may be in too much of a hurry to bother trying to tell new coins from old the coins bu ONLY changing the OBV and REV designs.  So &#8211; like Canada has done in the past &#8211;  have 12 flat sides (think stop sign with 12 sides) on all new coins.  Also radically change the OBV and REV so none of the older ones could be altered (by hammering the sides) to look like a new one.</p>
<p>Of course there will be some who will alter the old ones and there will be some fooled by the deception.  But as the older coins disappear from usage, this problem will also disappear.  If someone is taken, its their own fault (and I include myself).   </p>
<p>Money is saved in the making of the coins.</p>
<p>Want even more savings?  </p>
<p>Step 2:  Making polymer notes instead of paper would further the savings since polymer notes last longer &#8211; as proven in other countries.</p>
<p>Actual problems with implementing this proposed system:  politicians getting paybacks from those with a monetary interest in the current system as it exists &#8211; such as those who supply &#8220;paper&#8221; for bills to be printed on.  It is likely this common sense, easy fix will never be employed.  Instead more money will be wasted for years while the debate rages.</p>
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		By: Vachon		</title>
		<link>https://www.coinnews.net/2014/12/15/us-mint-not-recommending-new-coin-compositions/#comment-115271</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vachon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 22:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The only reason I don&#039;t recommend changing the sizes of existing denominations is, as a collector (and thinking of potential future collectors), the older coins which are occasionally found would necessarily be lost to circulation. I think it&#039;s one of the great testaments to this nation&#039;s coinage system that coins more than 50 years old (and still spendable should you so wish) can still be found. The United States may even be unique in that regard. With the introduction of the Euro, Europeans hit the numismatic wall at 1999. I feel bad for those collectors whose everyday change is lacking in historical richness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason I don&#8217;t recommend changing the sizes of existing denominations is, as a collector (and thinking of potential future collectors), the older coins which are occasionally found would necessarily be lost to circulation. I think it&#8217;s one of the great testaments to this nation&#8217;s coinage system that coins more than 50 years old (and still spendable should you so wish) can still be found. The United States may even be unique in that regard. With the introduction of the Euro, Europeans hit the numismatic wall at 1999. I feel bad for those collectors whose everyday change is lacking in historical richness.</p>
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		By: Munzen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Munzen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[M Alexander, Vachon, Richard: YES!  It&#039;s mind-boggling that the EU was able to replace over dozen national currencies in just a few months, the UK downsized all of its coins except 1p and 2p, Australia and New Zealand replaced their pounds with dollars - - - and we&#039;re convinced it&#039;s impossible to revise sizes and denominations dating back to the middle of the 19th century !?!?! 

Why can&#039;t we just bite the bullet and drag our coinage system kicking and screaming into the modern world? Get rid of the penny, eliminate the $1 bill and replace it with $1 coins and mint a small, easily-distinguished $2 coin.  If we were going to fully dive in, no matter how sentimental people are about the quarter why should we continue to mint a coin that doesn&#039;t fit in a standard decimal system and was only created for compatibility with Spanish pesetas?  Every other country that studied the problem adopted 20-cent coins and mints functionally-sized 50-cent coins. 

I know, it&#039;s the same reason we keep using feet and pounds while the rest of the world measures by tens. Doing anything practical would be un-American, and we&#039;re different. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M Alexander, Vachon, Richard: YES!  It&#8217;s mind-boggling that the EU was able to replace over dozen national currencies in just a few months, the UK downsized all of its coins except 1p and 2p, Australia and New Zealand replaced their pounds with dollars &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; and we&#8217;re convinced it&#8217;s impossible to revise sizes and denominations dating back to the middle of the 19th century !?!?! </p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we just bite the bullet and drag our coinage system kicking and screaming into the modern world? Get rid of the penny, eliminate the $1 bill and replace it with $1 coins and mint a small, easily-distinguished $2 coin.  If we were going to fully dive in, no matter how sentimental people are about the quarter why should we continue to mint a coin that doesn&#8217;t fit in a standard decimal system and was only created for compatibility with Spanish pesetas?  Every other country that studied the problem adopted 20-cent coins and mints functionally-sized 50-cent coins. </p>
<p>I know, it&#8217;s the same reason we keep using feet and pounds while the rest of the world measures by tens. Doing anything practical would be un-American, and we&#8217;re different. </p>
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		By: Boz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2014 17:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are there any vending machines other than 75 yr old antiques that will accept 1 cent coins?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any vending machines other than 75 yr old antiques that will accept 1 cent coins?</p>
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		By: Tom H		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LOL!  What needs to be replaced is the inept, corrupt, unconstitutional, and immoral politico-banker ponzi scheme that has necessitated our coinage being debased in the first place.

Every willful discussion about how we can debase our coinage to make its price more palatable is willful acceptance of the theft of your purchasing power through inflation.

I want to go in the other direction, a return to constitutional money that will reveal the largest fraud and Ponzi Scheme in the history of history.

The reason the above situation is being discussed is because a small group of very bad people have conspired to steal from you.  Inflation is theft.  Stop trying to find solutions for your government to rob you blind.  When a penny can no longer buy so much as a gumball, don&#039;t take it out on the gumball.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL!  What needs to be replaced is the inept, corrupt, unconstitutional, and immoral politico-banker ponzi scheme that has necessitated our coinage being debased in the first place.</p>
<p>Every willful discussion about how we can debase our coinage to make its price more palatable is willful acceptance of the theft of your purchasing power through inflation.</p>
<p>I want to go in the other direction, a return to constitutional money that will reveal the largest fraud and Ponzi Scheme in the history of history.</p>
<p>The reason the above situation is being discussed is because a small group of very bad people have conspired to steal from you.  Inflation is theft.  Stop trying to find solutions for your government to rob you blind.  When a penny can no longer buy so much as a gumball, don&#8217;t take it out on the gumball.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately there are political issues with changing coins--people in Congress who want their states&#039; or party&#039;s presidents to remain on the coins have spoken out on this issue.  Foolish, but that is just one example of what Congress has become.  Also, eliminating the penny is way overdue but would &quot;confirm&quot; the decline of the dollar and as well as the steady rise of inflation, which no one wants to officially admit.  And of course there&#039;s no reason to continue minting halves, but who wants to kill Kennedy&#039;s coin?

My guess is that the composition of the nickel will have to change, though it sounds like that can has been kicked down the road.  Eventually the only circulating coins will be that one (for awhile at least), the dime, and the quarter.  When and if one and two (remember them?) bills are no longer printed we&#039;ll finally get one dollar and two dollar coins that really circulate...heck, eventually we&#039;ll get five and ten dollar coins (think they&#039;ll be called half and full eagles?).  But, again, given the speed at which government moves it will take some strong inflationary pressure before Congress faces reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately there are political issues with changing coins&#8211;people in Congress who want their states&#8217; or party&#8217;s presidents to remain on the coins have spoken out on this issue.  Foolish, but that is just one example of what Congress has become.  Also, eliminating the penny is way overdue but would &#8220;confirm&#8221; the decline of the dollar and as well as the steady rise of inflation, which no one wants to officially admit.  And of course there&#8217;s no reason to continue minting halves, but who wants to kill Kennedy&#8217;s coin?</p>
<p>My guess is that the composition of the nickel will have to change, though it sounds like that can has been kicked down the road.  Eventually the only circulating coins will be that one (for awhile at least), the dime, and the quarter.  When and if one and two (remember them?) bills are no longer printed we&#8217;ll finally get one dollar and two dollar coins that really circulate&#8230;heck, eventually we&#8217;ll get five and ten dollar coins (think they&#8217;ll be called half and full eagles?).  But, again, given the speed at which government moves it will take some strong inflationary pressure before Congress faces reality.</p>
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		By: Vachon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vachon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why are they even considering composition changes for the dime, quarter, and (presumably) the half dollar when their production and distribution costs are so far below face value? Leave their compositions as is.

If anything, they should be finding a more expensive metal alloy to use for coins denominated $2, $5, and $10 to deter counterfeiting (a problem I&#039;ve read that goes on with British pound coins). ATMs make people withdraw in $20 increments so it seems reasonable to conclude the $20 bill is the &quot;dollar&quot; of our time. Eliminate the cent, nickel, dime, $1, $2, $5, and $10 bills (replacing the lost currency denominations with like-denominated coins).

I&#039;ve seen the sales sheets in my store. The average item cost in a supermarket hovers around $2.40 and $2.60. Quarters are barely justifiable with those numbers but whatever. The cheapest items you can still buy are 25¢ Ramen noodle bricks and 49¢ small cans of corn. Cents, nickels, and dimes are not practical under present pricing schemes. Rounding prices to the nearest quarter-dollar would not impact anything. It&#039;s often cited that the cent in the early 1900s had the purchasing power of a quarter today so if they could deal with such imprecision, why can&#039;t we?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are they even considering composition changes for the dime, quarter, and (presumably) the half dollar when their production and distribution costs are so far below face value? Leave their compositions as is.</p>
<p>If anything, they should be finding a more expensive metal alloy to use for coins denominated $2, $5, and $10 to deter counterfeiting (a problem I&#8217;ve read that goes on with British pound coins). ATMs make people withdraw in $20 increments so it seems reasonable to conclude the $20 bill is the &#8220;dollar&#8221; of our time. Eliminate the cent, nickel, dime, $1, $2, $5, and $10 bills (replacing the lost currency denominations with like-denominated coins).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the sales sheets in my store. The average item cost in a supermarket hovers around $2.40 and $2.60. Quarters are barely justifiable with those numbers but whatever. The cheapest items you can still buy are 25¢ Ramen noodle bricks and 49¢ small cans of corn. Cents, nickels, and dimes are not practical under present pricing schemes. Rounding prices to the nearest quarter-dollar would not impact anything. It&#8217;s often cited that the cent in the early 1900s had the purchasing power of a quarter today so if they could deal with such imprecision, why can&#8217;t we?</p>
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		By: M Alexander		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It just seems inconceivable to me that the US Mint are still seeking to preserve a coin system that has far out-lived its &quot;Fit for purpose&quot; lifetime.
The one cent coin simply has no buying power on its own in the American economy and as so many consumers continue to gravitate to an electronic method of payment, it also seems so impractical to retain a denomination which many shoppers actually refuse as change or leave on the counter. It&#039;s cost is almost double its face value and the American Government is prepared to spend further funds to research the feasibility of this denomination?
The five cent coin - from the information in this study costs a little more than three cents over its face value and still this over-run in production cost does nothing to alter the coin either in its weight &#038; diameter and/or metal.
The Dollar coin is a practical item of currency and its a shame this coin does not form the basis for two smaller denomination of a half dollar and quarter dollar with copper-plated 10 and 5 cent coins to accompany a new set of american coins.
Perhaps the reason it will indeed cost the coin processing and vending machine industry so much money is due to the possibility that the coin series has been so terribly neglected over the last half a century when the US Mint removed silver content from the coins and the ones currently in circulation are a left-over legacy from a by-gone era.
THE US Mint must take the initiative and make significant changes for American coinage which could in fact see it into the next half a century with the ability to add &#038; remove denominations to suit the economy without it becoming a &quot;federal case&quot; and inconvenience the public - other countries seem to accomplish this seamlessly - why can&#039;t America?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just seems inconceivable to me that the US Mint are still seeking to preserve a coin system that has far out-lived its &#8220;Fit for purpose&#8221; lifetime.<br />
The one cent coin simply has no buying power on its own in the American economy and as so many consumers continue to gravitate to an electronic method of payment, it also seems so impractical to retain a denomination which many shoppers actually refuse as change or leave on the counter. It&#8217;s cost is almost double its face value and the American Government is prepared to spend further funds to research the feasibility of this denomination?<br />
The five cent coin &#8211; from the information in this study costs a little more than three cents over its face value and still this over-run in production cost does nothing to alter the coin either in its weight &amp; diameter and/or metal.<br />
The Dollar coin is a practical item of currency and its a shame this coin does not form the basis for two smaller denomination of a half dollar and quarter dollar with copper-plated 10 and 5 cent coins to accompany a new set of american coins.<br />
Perhaps the reason it will indeed cost the coin processing and vending machine industry so much money is due to the possibility that the coin series has been so terribly neglected over the last half a century when the US Mint removed silver content from the coins and the ones currently in circulation are a left-over legacy from a by-gone era.<br />
THE US Mint must take the initiative and make significant changes for American coinage which could in fact see it into the next half a century with the ability to add &amp; remove denominations to suit the economy without it becoming a &#8220;federal case&#8221; and inconvenience the public &#8211; other countries seem to accomplish this seamlessly &#8211; why can&#8217;t America?</p>
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