Congratulations Set’s Appeal Broadened with 2017-S Proof Silver Eagle (Updated)

by Mike Unser on April 4, 2017 · 99 comments

The U.S. Mint widened the appeal for this year’s Congratulations Set, pulling coin collectors into the fold of wanting one not just for gift-giving but also for themselves.

2017 Congratulations Set

The 2017 Congratulations Set’s folder is congratulatory-themed with silver and gold ribbons. The special “S” Mint proof Silver Eagle is encapsulated inside on the right with the left fold having an area to write a personalized message. A certificate of authenticity is printed on the back of the folder, while coin specifications appear on the back of a protective sleeve that wraps around the folder.

Produced annually since 2013, the sets have — until now — always included the year’s standard proof American Silver Eagle. This year’s set includes a special one that’ll have a lower mintage. Coin collectors will want one for that reason alone, and more will buy just to maintain a full run of Silver Eagles by year.

Congratulations Sets had always featured the years proof Silver Eagle from West Point, bearing the facility’s "W" mint mark. In a compelling change, the 2017 set has a proof Silver Eagle from the San Francisco Mint with an "S" mint mark.

The latest available U.S. Mint sales figures have last year’s made-to-order Congratulations Set at just 2,374. The debuting set from 2013 ended with the highest sales at 18,347. This year’s set should top those easily because of the "S" Proof Silver Eagle, although its maximum is established at 75,000.

The U.S. Mint also said that the 2017-S Proof American Silver Eagle will be available as a part of the 2017 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set. Its limit hasn’t been announced but last year’s set has sales of 39,166 with 50,000 possible. Minimally, it looks like there will be at least 125,000 "S" Proof Silver Eagles available.

Sales of the standard West Point Mint’s 2017-W Proof American Silver Eagle kicked off on March 23 for $53.95. More than 233,000 sold in the first day. (See photos of the 2017-W Proof Silver Eagle.)

2017-W Proof American Silver Eagle, coin, case and cert

CoinNews photo of an individually 2017-W Proof American Silver Eagle, its case, packaging and certificate of authenticity

Released today at noon ET for $54.95, buy the 2017 Congratulations Set directly from the United States Mint right here, or call 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468). There is no household order limit.

Update (April 5): The U.S. Mint on April 5 at 10:08 a.m. ET sent news editors the following notice about the set’s status: "Sales attrition from cancellations, returns and credit card declinations could result in a very limited quantity being made available for sale."

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Mike

1 minute sell out. WOW

Kenneth
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Kenneth

At 12:02pm EST when I completed my order, I received a SOLD OUT response instead of an order completion response.

Just to confirm, I tried to order again with the same result.

That is unacceptable on many levels!

Mike
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Mike

I would guess mint will limit silver set household purchase and make 200,000 sets available.

michael angiolillo
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michael angiolillo

Haha!! Mint is smart. How many times has the Congrats Set every sold out? I can’t wait to read the complaining. At least its not another bust for the Mint.

For those who didn’t get them, at least you won’t have to deal with the magic milk spots that appear out of no where, like happened to my American Liberty silver medals or 2014 silver Kennedys high reliefs.

michael angiolillo
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michael angiolillo

You can buy these for $64 on ebay with free shipping; Considering the $5 shipping charge at Mint, cost extra $5 to get one right now.

What is the point to buy and then sell for $9 more than retail? For $3-4 profit?

michael angiolillo
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michael angiolillo

I take it back. That was a 2013 set smile

Kenneth
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Kenneth

I am a collector, not an ‘investor’. I own stocks and land for investment purposes. I have always liked silver Eagles because I like the Liberty Walking design. I stopped collecting them for about 15 years after the 1995 W debacle, for which I’ll forever thank the idiot-elitist ‘Mr. Commemorative’.
Other practices at the mint plus ‘Professional Grading’ have severely curtailed my coin collecting and now this. I read this message as, ‘you are no longer meant to be a coin collector’.

Thank goodness I have other hobbies, which bring me pleasure. This will save me some of my hard-earned dollars!

Happy ‘collecting’ to all!

gary
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gary

i got the soldout post at 12:03 pm right after i had to re submit my credit card card # but mike mezak will proably have thousands of them on saturday morningboy what a sucker i am

Hewhodontknow
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Hewhodontknow

This is not the first proof silver eagle with a S mint mark… Just will be low on mintage though

RoosterMI
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RoosterMI

gary

I am with you and anyone else who knows that Mike and other big players got their orders in. No household limits could have killed this for the little people.

Hewhodontknow
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Hewhodontknow

Once again the US mint favors the big coin dealers and flipprers by not having a household limit of some sort,and eventually lifted. Once again its shown how much the mint doesn’t care at all about us collectors. That’s a major contribution to killing the hobby,so sad! And they wonder why the hobby is dying smh..shame on the mint killing the hobby.

JB
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JB

I guess I was lucky to get in and get a couple right at 12pm. I never thought they would sell so quickly. I bet the mint is very happy with themselves.

drew scott
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drew scott

Very happy also. Logged in approx 11:57, hit the refresh a couple times till the ‘buy’ button showed up and made my purchase.

Chas Barber
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Chas Barber

Went to bed & forgot went to computer @ 9:02 sell out….I DON’T CARE I don;t need another proof ASE I have boxes of them & reverse proof that have languished. The mint is destroying “collecting” so in the long run, the low mintage will mean butkis & if silver hits $50 it will also mean nada…..1 minute sell out, I bet Treasury Sec. Munchkin bought like 100,000 units….for his clients…that maybe pay taxes

Synoptic12
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Ordered at high noon, as sales were discontinued at the four minute mark.

Synoptic12
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The advertising section of the U.S. Mint deserves an A+, adjoining organization and structure. There will surely be a secondary market mark-up, as the price shall increase beyond what any have expected. Just when I thought I was out, they (U.S. Mint) pulled me back in. The U.S. Mint provided full disclosure prior to the aforesaid item being released, so there should be no excuses, none.

* One comment above had the person logged in at 11:57 A:M which was a little past our log in. No refresh, just added quantity, placed in cart, set to go; “Just that easy”.

Mike
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Mike

Don’t worry, Order then in the 2017 limited edition later this year.The mint will remind you of the release date. Goood luck!!!!

JB
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JB

These are already for sale on line at $150 and up, it seems they knew it would be a sell out somehow.

Synoptic12
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Those limited edition silver proof sets shall be costly, with only the ‘S’ Eagle being of value. The collector’s know this full well, as to why all were snatched up today.

Synoptic12
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@JB
Common sense would dictate to any collector that sales on both items, (2017 Congratulations Set) and the 2017 Silver Proof Set only; amount to 125,000 pieces, irrespective on what the U.S. Mint may decide on the latter for ‘numbers’.

Seth Riesling
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Seth Riesling

No need to worry on this coin everybody. The Mint sent a press release the other day saying this “S” Mint mark coin will be available in at least one more product this year. Also, I noticed the other day that this product is listed on the Mint’s website as “Mintage Limit: none” which means they can strike as many as they want for inclusion in other sets or packaging this year. This is no rarity !
Remember that this is the Mint’s 225th anniversary (as of Sunday April 2) year & they told us late last year they have many special items planned for this year. They will milk this for all they can by overproducing special coins, silver medals & sets.

-NumisDudeTX

Synoptic12
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@Seth

If that is the road the U.S. MINT wishes to pursue; that could be a very costly error and turn another generation away; even collector’s. Some can only be deceived once, then what shall the plan be? This type of business protocol would be disadvantageous to the entire realm on collecting. We truly believe that the U.S. Mint will not follow the path you have defined.

Seth Riesling
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Seth Riesling

Synoptic 12-

The Mint doesn’t care past the current fiscal year (no 5 or 10-year business plan). Not like when I lived in Japan and learned companies there have 100-year plans! Very smart & successful small country.
The Mint has told everyone time & time again that “Mintage Limit” & “Product Limit” listed under the product photos on their website are NOT the same thing. There is no limit on the amount of these 2017 “S” ASE $1 coins they can strike. Read the “fine print” on this coin:

“Mintage Limit: none”
“Product Limit: 75,000”
“Household Limit: none”

Also, the limited edition silver Proof set past mintage of 50,000 is not set in stone & can be changed at anytime, but at $139.95 they haven’t sold out since the first year in 2012.

Happy collecting !

-NumisDudeTX

Synoptic12
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@Seth

Remember, the U.S. Mint has the right to change addendums and stipulations ‘without’ anyone’s authority. We read the fine print below the fine print which does not define any specific number, rather leaving the door open. I believe that I have just written on the Silver Proof Set’s numbers, “Irrespective”, ‘Whereby there is no need to add information previously stated. Contingent upon your way of thinking of the initial preface of the U.S. Mint ‘only caring for the current year’, is somewhat of an assertion that you, and only you present. We;re very much aware of your past exploits on growing, especially being at fingertips reach of the content of numismatics. We really do not place any credence in what others say or try to interject, only following after what we see, or realize, as a viable; possibly valuable option that you disavow in a sense.

Chas Barber
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Chas Barber

Seth- Could we see a W & S Mint Ag ASE set? Or a unc S mint ASE? we’ll see, it is not rare I agree. Just very annoying of the Mint, but I am most used to it. What happened to minting to order, a window & you order & you’re DONE…nahh easier to sell 10,000 units of these ti Mike Miseryack & give a 1 ffingah salute to Joe Collector…IMHO

Seth Riesling
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Seth Riesling

Synoptic 12-

I don’t want to argue over my main hobby since 1976. I have been a U.S. Mint customer every year for 41 years now & I have been to this rodeo before & have seen it all (I have had private tours of all 4 US Mint facilities under the aegis of US Mint Director Donna Pope in the late 1980s & worked for the largest rare coin business in the world in Dallas & for the largest numismatic publication in the world). I don’t pretend to know everything, but you can believe I made & kept important contacts then & over the years in the tripartite numismatic hobby, industry & science & know a lot more than the average bear. I try to share the good, bad & ugly in even doses. I also love learning from others. Thank you Sir (or Madam).

-NumisDudeTX

Synoptic12
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@Seth

You have brought most of the above facets to us before, in which we’re not immune. We’re aware of your background culminating into the domain of ‘who would know more’. No offense, but we’ve been with numismatics for some time and have been friends to the family of the Rosen Collection > may have mentioned that before. I’m not a sir, just a servant of weak flesh for numismatics.

Hewhodontknow
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Hewhodontknow

Seth-
A previous article here in coin news said this was the first ASE proof to be minted but I know the San Francisco mint struck the early years of the program, you know quite a lot and want to ask you if there is something I might be missing about that claim.
Thanks and happy collecting!

Synoptic12
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@ Mike

Yes, there were coin news sites where the aforesaid facet were mentioned, BUT the U.S. Mint ‘did not’. You may correct me if I’m wrong. Kind of a weak hook to catch the unsuspecting.

Hewhodontknow
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Hewhodontknow

Thanks Mike,
I believe this coin will also be the “first” for the “Limited Edition Silver Proof Set”, and if the US mint doesn’t offer it in any other way then this one would be the key for the “S” ASE proof with 125k therefore making this one a keeper.. Unless we get a surprise from the mint and instead of 50k they decide to go crazy and set the limit to 175k lol

Silgold
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Silgold

i think the limited set better had mintage like make in order ( 1 week) period time,so people wont complain like Maddog. also we might see .9999 silver half dollar ,quarter, dime in this year Special Limited Edition set .

lonnie
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lonnie

my order says backorder, does that mean my order will be filled?

Kerrie
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Kerrie

Does anybody know what happened today with the mint. I’m so mad! I was online at 12:05 and had my 2 sets in my cart, checked out and they disappeared at the end of the process and said unavailable. I couldn’t get through on the phone either. All those third party vendors probably ordered 10,000 coins at a time. How can the mint do this to us collectors again. Why wouldn’t they put limits on the first day at least, especially after they’re last shit storm with the gold dime. My son is having his first child in a few months and now I can’t get one. I just started collecting this last year and can’t seem to get anything special, with lower mintages from the mint. I tried to get the dime 40 min after 12 and missed out. This time I logged in at 12 and they were… Read more »

Kerrie
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Kerrie

The US Mint just told me that they sold out in 3 1/2 min. Which dealers do you think bought the mint out. The phone rep I just talked to said she placed an order for somebody of 25,000 sets. Wouldn’t that be like a monopoly or something? Who do we call to complain about this bullshit? She did say they were unavailable, but she didn’t think they were sold out.

Chas Barber
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Chas Barber

25,000 sets to one buyer, that would be like Russia deciding an election or someone buying the Presidency, it’s not possibile kidz!!! ?

Synoptic12
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@ lonnie

‘Backordered’ means the allotment has been fulfilled in a sense but there is the possibility that orders that were not processed properly: i.e. > credit card issues, cancellations or returns may fill your order contingent upon where you are stationed in line on the ‘backorder’ list. You still have a very good chance on receiving your order based upon the aforesaid. We have been down this road prior, as this is the way we read into it. All other specialists are welcome to chime in here.

gary
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gary

we were hoodwinked

Synoptic12
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@Gary

That’s not true. The U.S. Mint provided full disclosure, gave the people ample time to prepare, and informed the mainstream of the upcoming set.

Christopher Williams
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Christopher Williams

I didn’t even attempt to buy this set. I thought for sure I’d be able to purchase one when I got home from work.

Boy was I wrong. No big really. They’ll come down in price in six months on the secondary market.

Seth Riesling
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Seth Riesling

Synoptic12 – You are right on point with your responses to @lonnie & @Gary. Thanks for sharing your insight on the issues at hand. This is a productive exchange that I enjoy seeing here when someone has a question or concern about the Mint & its products. I ordered 2 of these Congratulations sets as I have in the past (one for my collection & one as a gift for May graduation time). But I will still buy the 2017 Limited Edition sliver Proof set (my two sets from 2012 have increased nicely in value & the other 3 years not so much, but I actually like the presentation box & packaging on that set). Plus, most of my collection is being passed down to my 4 nephews when I depart Mother Earth, so value is not a primary motivating factor. I too find myself being unable to detach myself… Read more »

Synoptic12
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@ Seth In the same respect I really have no ambition to really seek wealth as a primary goal, rather to place my wager to see what the end result may be; hopefully on the plus side, only to pass the baton to others. At this point, not many appear to be interested anymore, so it is more of a habit. I actually like the rush in the odds being unknown; as to whom a limited set will be allocated, and if I should be fortunate enough to be selected on purchase. There shall always be those complaining on how the U.S. Mint structures their policies according to limited edition sets, and as to the course in which they are dispersed. Maybe I’ve been more than fortunate for I’ve never experienced any issues with the U.S. Mint as the staff and personnel have always treated me with friendliness, courtesy while… Read more »

RODNEY MOORE
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RODNEY MOORE

Well, I’ve gotten good and mad at the Mint today. I called at 11:59:30 and had a customer service rep on the line at 12:00 exactly. After telling her my name and all that necessary jazz to pull my account up it was 12:01. She tells me the Congrats Set is on backorder and that if I wanted to make an order we had to hurry. Before I could fully get out “Yeah, yeah, I want to order two of them” she was interrupting with “I’m sorry, Sir, but they are now unavailable”. The time was 12:02 and right after she said it the time on my pc (synced with google servers) clicked over to 12:03. Two minutes to sell out. It’s a shame the lady hadn’t put 2 in the cart and locked them in as we were speaking. Why wasn’t there a household limit? I know that the… Read more »

RODNEY MOORE
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RODNEY MOORE

I wish there was an edit feature to comments. In the post below it looks like I left “ebay” out of the sentence that was supposed to be “It took me until 5pm before I could bear to look (at ebay).

lonnie
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lonnie

the mint needs to reissue this coin again!!! tomorrow!! put out another 200,000 and make a household limit of 5.

Mark Rigaud
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Mark Rigaud

The Mint needs to set limits on all coins except the bullion coins! Any other coins that are offered annually should have limits! There is a dealer right now on EBay selling the 2017 congratulatory set (100) for $14,000! He probably purchased a 1000 sets! The average cost not on EBay is $125 for the 2017 Congratulatory set, the Mint needs to set Limits!!!!!

Synoptic12
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We need Robert Chambers to lead us but he has stepped up. Robert was a Baptist, a faithful Baptist that assisted many others, unbeknownst to the many. One of the very finest and highly, extremely highly talented people in the numismatic arena. We really miss that guy, no better, none that could sell with honesty in the stream. Mostly all gone today, mostly consisting of weaves of deception. Our respect to Robert and his family members as we have remembered them in our prayers.

Synoptic12
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@ Mark Rigaud

The United States Mint reserves the right to do as they please.

Roger Lyness
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Roger Lyness

They sold out in 2 min. When l was on hold. Sre you selling them?

a Bob
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a Bob

I would suggest creating an account and keeping a credit card on file with the mint. I had no issue putting three in my bracket at noon EST then checking out. All I had to do was confirm my order and enter the three digit code from the back of my card.
My order was confirmed at 12:02. I would have been complete at 12:01 but I forgot that I had created an account recently so I had to double check all of my data on the confirmation page.

I thought that there was a limit of 100 units per on line transaction. Would be interesting to know for sure.

Synoptic 12
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-a Bob
Exact process I had taken, no issues.

bunker
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bunker

If large orders are being filled first, there is a smell to this.

RoosterMI
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RoosterMI

Liberty gold tomorrow with no household limits. It will be interesting to see what happens. Hard to compare but just wondering how big these players might be.

joe#2
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joe#2

These, I’m sure will acquire the “gorgeous” milk spots. I’m glad i passed.

Synoptic 12
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@ Chas Barber That comment was uncalled for as being directed at Robert Chambers. In reality, no I’ve never been shut out and I’ve never, not ever experienced any such negativity from any of the personnel from the United states Mint. I was on ‘back order’ status on the 2011 (100,000) in which I received. If the order was not to be fulfilled, there would be not anything I could do. However, I certainly would not destroy the reputation of the United States Mint due to “not” receiving the merchandise. The United States Mint is a business footed upon increasing income at the best way they believe may increase revenue. Most all businesses operate in the same way, only other corporations use discounts as a means to appease the consumer. Again, the United States Mint reserves the right to change any program they deem appropriate, whether to raise more revenue… Read more »

Chas Barber
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Chas Barber

Synoptic12 I find it unbelievable that YOU have never had any issue w/the US Mint, never been shut out, have a glich, have a cart emptied on YOU, hit a sellout, have a rude operator, etc…..guess you know a back door or the Baptist method….regardless the Mint besides PROFITS has a duty @ least to try to promote coin collecting (sale$ go up, etc., aftermarket) & their BS sales procedures & lack of consistency is ridiculous. I used to care, I used to get upset, now I can wait & buy, just got that “rare” 2016 HR Ag medal for $48.9 with shipping on eBay, a 2am close helped but I noted the seller also had 2 for BIN @$149.95……covered in moss

Richard
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Richard

Really screwing over the average collector by installing “no limits” on purchases of these low minted ASE’s – not happy w/paying nearly 3x issue price.

Hungyip
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Hungyip

I will passed any gold coin issued by any mints, reasons : HARD TO SELL , gold coin hard to make 50%+ profit, the commission for buying/selling. 100 k Mintage is way too much.

Hungyip
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Hungyip

Did the owner of Bullion exchange had relationship to President Donald Trump. CIA or FBI need to investigate. That company had so many for sale on ebay. What the heck of profit.