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	<title>Comments on: Spain Should Get Shipwreck Treasure from Odyssey, Says Judge</title>
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		<title>By: HoLeeCrap</title>
		<link>http://www.coinnews.net/2009/06/05/spain-should-get-shipwreck-treasure-from-odyssey-says-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-34806</link>
		<dc:creator>HoLeeCrap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 20:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pearl Harbor is Territorial US Waters, not subject to salvage laws. Think before you speak. This treasure and any future finds in International water should belong to the Odyssey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pearl Harbor is Territorial US Waters, not subject to salvage laws. Think before you speak. This treasure and any future finds in International water should belong to the Odyssey.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another American judge on the take.In the documents from wikileaks it clearly states that our courts will give Spain the coins for some back room dealings&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;It wasn’t a fair confrontation, according to leaked documents released by WikiLeaks.

London’s Guardian newspaper, one of the news organizations which receive the cables directly from WikiLeaks, reported that U.S. officials offered to help Spain in the court fight over the sunken treasure.&quot;
In exchange, they asked assistance for returning a valuable Impressionist painting looted by the Nazis during WWII.
My family over the years of this nations history fought for this NOT to be able to happen in America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another American judge on the take.In the documents from wikileaks it clearly states that our courts will give Spain the coins for some back room dealings&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;It wasn’t a fair confrontation, according to leaked documents released by WikiLeaks.</p>
<p>London’s Guardian newspaper, one of the news organizations which receive the cables directly from WikiLeaks, reported that U.S. officials offered to help Spain in the court fight over the sunken treasure.&#8221;<br />
In exchange, they asked assistance for returning a valuable Impressionist painting looted by the Nazis during WWII.<br />
My family over the years of this nations history fought for this NOT to be able to happen in America!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 01:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this case were to be decided on ethical grounds, and it&#039;s unlikely that it will be so decided, Spain would be the last party to receive any of this ill-gotten treasure, having savagely pillaged it from the indigenous people of South America.  I would like to see the salvage company reimbursed for their expenses and given a handsome profit, and then the treasure should be returned to the country or countries from which it was stolen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this case were to be decided on ethical grounds, and it&#8217;s unlikely that it will be so decided, Spain would be the last party to receive any of this ill-gotten treasure, having savagely pillaged it from the indigenous people of South America.  I would like to see the salvage company reimbursed for their expenses and given a handsome profit, and then the treasure should be returned to the country or countries from which it was stolen.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Mellado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio Mellado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Spanish are thieves, Yankees are killers because they exterminated  95% of the native population of North America. The remains now live in &quot;reserves&quot; like jews in concentration camps. USA cannot give lessons to anybody on respect to the aborigens.  200 men, women and children died in this ship, and Odyssey stole the gold destroying their tombs. What USA wolud think if a spanish company were violating  the Battleship USS Arizona in Pearl Harbour to extract the steel?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Spanish are thieves, Yankees are killers because they exterminated  95% of the native population of North America. The remains now live in &#8220;reserves&#8221; like jews in concentration camps. USA cannot give lessons to anybody on respect to the aborigens.  200 men, women and children died in this ship, and Odyssey stole the gold destroying their tombs. What USA wolud think if a spanish company were violating  the Battleship USS Arizona in Pearl Harbour to extract the steel?.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan Sánchez</title>
		<link>http://www.coinnews.net/2009/06/05/spain-should-get-shipwreck-treasure-from-odyssey-says-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-14141</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan Sánchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if Odyssey gets the treasure, will they return it to the indians ? Why aren&#039;t the Odyssey arguments repugnant ? They want just $. They are a private enterprise, playing with a cultural item. Isn&#039;t this repugnant ?  The expoliation is by your side now. Spain is claiming a part of our history, which was certainly bloody (as the US one : you have the indians in reserves, those who survived the ethnic cleansing). Plus, think about Spain discovering any american treasure, via private enterprise, and aiming to do business with it. How would you react ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if Odyssey gets the treasure, will they return it to the indians ? Why aren&#8217;t the Odyssey arguments repugnant ? They want just $. They are a private enterprise, playing with a cultural item. Isn&#8217;t this repugnant ?  The expoliation is by your side now. Spain is claiming a part of our history, which was certainly bloody (as the US one : you have the indians in reserves, those who survived the ethnic cleansing). Plus, think about Spain discovering any american treasure, via private enterprise, and aiming to do business with it. How would you react ?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Lago</title>
		<link>http://www.coinnews.net/2009/06/05/spain-should-get-shipwreck-treasure-from-odyssey-says-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-11185</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Lago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What rights could Spain have? The brutally steal it from the Indians. The claim from Spain to the treasure is repugnant. 
If the ones from the Odysee are pirates, the Spanish are thieves and steal it  from the Indians in the first place, by means of slavery an force labor. And as the Spanish proverb says: &quot;The one that steal from a thief got one hundred years of forgiveness&quot;. 
If the coins are a cultural heritage of Spain, Does it mean that the killing of millions of Indians is also a cultural heritage?

If we were to solve this upon moral issues...only the Indians could have any ethical or moral rights the treasure was their work and sweet the one that produced it in the first place . For the rest, the one that recover it, take it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What rights could Spain have? The brutally steal it from the Indians. The claim from Spain to the treasure is repugnant.<br />
If the ones from the Odysee are pirates, the Spanish are thieves and steal it  from the Indians in the first place, by means of slavery an force labor. And as the Spanish proverb says: &#8220;The one that steal from a thief got one hundred years of forgiveness&#8221;.<br />
If the coins are a cultural heritage of Spain, Does it mean that the killing of millions of Indians is also a cultural heritage?</p>
<p>If we were to solve this upon moral issues&#8230;only the Indians could have any ethical or moral rights the treasure was their work and sweet the one that produced it in the first place . For the rest, the one that recover it, take it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everyone that’s posted, the discovery channel has done a excellent job of exposing the extent of the current Spanish ternary.

The entire Spanish argument goes out the window when it&#039;s established they had no idea where the treasure is/was.

Perhaps they rather fishing trawlers keep dragging and dispersing around everything else that’s down in the depths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everyone that’s posted, the discovery channel has done a excellent job of exposing the extent of the current Spanish ternary.</p>
<p>The entire Spanish argument goes out the window when it&#8217;s established they had no idea where the treasure is/was.</p>
<p>Perhaps they rather fishing trawlers keep dragging and dispersing around everything else that’s down in the depths.</p>
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		<title>By: Marian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if it was illegal for Edwards to keep the gold how was it was legal for him to explore and bring it up? Did the Spanish government think that he was going to risk life and limb and millions of dollars to turn it over to them? This is one of the most underhanded and illegal international conspiracies...............don&#039;t create emenies for the USA while exploiting an American who goes by the letter of the International Maritime Laws and get screwed for it. 
All this coming from a country that exploited the Indians of Peru and the Americas including the new world, and only since 1978 have they became a supposed democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if it was illegal for Edwards to keep the gold how was it was legal for him to explore and bring it up? Did the Spanish government think that he was going to risk life and limb and millions of dollars to turn it over to them? This is one of the most underhanded and illegal international conspiracies&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;don&#8217;t create emenies for the USA while exploiting an American who goes by the letter of the International Maritime Laws and get screwed for it.<br />
All this coming from a country that exploited the Indians of Peru and the Americas including the new world, and only since 1978 have they became a supposed democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.coinnews.net/2009/06/05/spain-should-get-shipwreck-treasure-from-odyssey-says-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-10270</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The treasure find was accomplished by John Edwards and Ballard joint venture with the Odyssey. It was not a state of Spain affair for Spain to lay their hands on the salvage. Edwards crew found it and pulled it up off the ocean floor. The Marine law states during a commercial engagement; if a ship or cargo is lost at sea; those who recover it get to keep it. The salvage belonged to John Edwards and his crew. What is this a diplomatic sell out? Is the judge crooked? Fema wears a blind fold as she weighs the balance of evidence on her scales. i recall many a coin dealer taking what i had and giving me nothing for it after they had run down my coin collection....some slight of hand....some by bold trickery. It is done all the time. Edwards got his teeth kicked in when they stole his treasure. Welcome to the club John. Its a thieving world under the cloak of authority and halo crowned creepy thieving ordained coin liars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The treasure find was accomplished by John Edwards and Ballard joint venture with the Odyssey. It was not a state of Spain affair for Spain to lay their hands on the salvage. Edwards crew found it and pulled it up off the ocean floor. The Marine law states during a commercial engagement; if a ship or cargo is lost at sea; those who recover it get to keep it. The salvage belonged to John Edwards and his crew. What is this a diplomatic sell out? Is the judge crooked? Fema wears a blind fold as she weighs the balance of evidence on her scales. i recall many a coin dealer taking what i had and giving me nothing for it after they had run down my coin collection&#8230;.some slight of hand&#8230;.some by bold trickery. It is done all the time. Edwards got his teeth kicked in when they stole his treasure. Welcome to the club John. Its a thieving world under the cloak of authority and halo crowned creepy thieving ordained coin liars.</p>
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		<title>By: manuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>manuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The powerful always rules.
So the us will keep the treasure.
Internatinal Law can be interpret in many ways.
The rigth thing to do is return it to South America
where it came from(stolen by invasion of spain to peru etc)
But again the powerful rules!!!!
Thanks
MCN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The powerful always rules.<br />
So the us will keep the treasure.<br />
Internatinal Law can be interpret in many ways.<br />
The rigth thing to do is return it to South America<br />
where it came from(stolen by invasion of spain to peru etc)<br />
But again the powerful rules!!!!<br />
Thanks<br />
MCN</p>
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